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Who are the power hitters in domestic circuit that deserve a go in the T20Is?

As we know, t20 batting line up is a mess and we need power hitters, at least 2. We can't continue with this line up.:(
Please don't name Umar Akmal or any TTF.:danish
 
Look the best one we had was Sharjeel Khan followed by Khalid Latif and then Shahzaib but they're gone. What a travesty that the ONLY guys we had somewhat capable of playing the modern game are lost. We can breed some news ones hopefully but at the moment, the guys we have are:

- Nauman Anwar.
- Awais Zia.
- Naved Malik.
- Mukhtar Ahmed (God knows where he is)

These guys are GENUINE powerhitters. I'm not talking about your Fakhar Zamans or Hussain Talat's who can play the modern game and maintain a good strike rate or whatever. - We all know that never works out. These bunch of guys are people who can slog the ball. And going by that, the cupboard is pretty empty because all these 3 are hacks and will fail 8 times out of 10.
 
we had a really big loss in Sharjeel, Khalid and Shahzaib being banned
 
ExpressPacer said:
Look the best one we had was Sharjeel Khan followed by Khalid Latif and then Shahzaib but they're gone. What a travesty that the ONLY guys we had somewhat capable of playing the modern game are lost. We can breed some news ones hopefully but at the moment, the guys we have are:

- Nauman Anwar.
- Awais Zia.
- Naved Malik.
- Mukhtar Ahmed (God knows where he is)

These guys are GENUINE powerhitters. I'm not talking about your Fakhar Zamans or Hussain Talat's who can play the modern game and maintain a good strike rate or whatever. - We all know that never works out. These bunch of guys are people who can slog the ball. And going by that, the cupboard is pretty empty because all these 3 are hacks and will fail 8 times out of 10.
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hmmm. Nice list, we need those guys, don't care if they fail in 3 matches continuesly, but single handedly win us a game after that.
what is you opinion on Fawad Khan?
 
WHere on earth is Mukhtar Ahmed - 2 MOMs in pak vs zimbabwe series and boom he has disappeared and doesnt even get selected in PSL. Only in Pakistan
 
Cheetah99 said:
WHere on earth is Mukhtar Ahmed - 2 MOMs in pak vs zimbabwe series and boom he has disappeared and doesnt even get selected in PSL. Only in Pakistan
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Very sad indeed. He still averages 33. I can't believe we can just simply write someone off! Not selected for A tours or these Emerging tournaments or anything! Epitome of injustice and to add salt to the wound, jokes like Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad and EVEN 37 year old Kamran Akmal's keep making comebacks while youth is lost into the wilderness.

Even more surprising is that fans, even here on PP, keep calling for these TTF's as soon as they are dropped but forget about these talented individuals who lit up the world in their first few matches and were forgotten after a couple of failures.
 
Citizen4 said:
hmmm. Nice list, we need those guys, don't care if they fail in 3 matches continuesly, but single handedly win us a game after that.
what is you opinion on Fawad Khan?
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The wicket-keeper from Fata? Look to be honest, 1) I don't really judge players on the basis of scorecards and stats until I've seen them live so can't say too much and 2) going by his statistics, he averages a meek 20 in List A after quite a few games so I'm not sure how good that is.
 
ExpressPacer said:
The wicket-keeper from Fata? Look to be honest, 1) I don't really judge players on the basis of scorecards and stats until I've seen them live so can't say too much and 2) going by his statistics, he averages a meek 20 in List A after quite a few games so I'm not sure how good that is.
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he's known to be a power hitter as well, he hasn't played many matches but did well in some of the domestic matches and capable of hitting 6s and 4s regularly
 
Mukhtar Ahmed was also a hack albeit a little better than Fakhar Zaman. He scored runs on those Lahore pitches against Zimbabwe where the ball was doing absolutely nothing. Away from home, he looked so uncomfortable as soon as the ball was pitched short. He wouldn't last 10 balls in Australia, South Africa. I think he's still young, around 25, so if he can work on his short pitch batting then he can make a comeback.
 
shariqnoor said:
Mukhtar Ahmed was also a hack albeit a little better than Fakhar Zaman. He scored runs on those Lahore pitches against Zimbabwe where the ball was doing absolutely nothing. Away from home, he looked so uncomfortable as soon as the ball was pitched short. He wouldn't last 10 balls in Australia, South Africa. I think he's still young, around 25, so if he can work on his short pitch batting then he can make a comeback.
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I don't advocate for his selection in the team but to completely write him off and not even play him in these A tours and Emerging cups let alone the PSL is the zenith of injustice. Why keep bringing back TTF's like Shehzad, Akmal and even Kami into the NATIONAL team when you can't even play guys like Mukhtar in the A team. He looked very promising and shouldn't have been dropped after a couple of failures, let alone completely forgotten after great performances.

Even Shadab Khan's performances don't hold much weight given they are against an absolutely weak, new and young West Indian team on pitches where even the likes of Iftikhar will get wickets. But he should be persisted with even after failures because he looks promising. If I were to tell you he'll be dropped and completely forgotten in 6 months from now, the entire nation will lose its mind. So, why the injustice to Mukhtar? Beyond me.
 
There are a quite a few who bat as owner or one down. I think most are already mentioned here. Junaid ali was another who batted at a fair clip. I just saw his stats not live
 
A mystery hitter needs to be scouted that nobody knows about.

P
Inzi should give to coaches as a must do job to unearth at least 1 hitter from each region, call them to NCA. and see who are the best.

THEN get them in.
 
Hawkeye said:
A mystery hitter needs to be scouted that nobody knows about.

P
Inzi should give to coaches as a must do job to unearth at least 1 hitter from each region, call them to NCA. and see who are the best.

THEN get them in.
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100% agreed.
We need a country wide power hitter hunt.
it is a serious problem in our t20 and ODI squads. we can never progress without solving this issue. enough is enough.
 
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Hawkeye said:
A mystery hitter needs to be scouted that nobody knows about.

P
Inzi should give to coaches as a must do job to unearth at least 1 hitter from each region, call them to NCA. and see who are the best.

THEN get them in.
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This could actually work. There's quite a few blokes out there who can bash the ball. There needs to be a talent hunt for powerhitter like the ones we have for fast bowlers. There's GOT TO be at least a few. Especially after the Afridi phenomenon.
 
navid malik i dont know but the rest of them are all hack..but u never know it may prove good as in case of khalid latif..
 
I would have liked to have Sohail in the t20 and ODi squads, he can hit some boundaries, he has done it several times in domestic, and also in Aus and NZ test series.
He would have added a little balance to the lower order with his quickfire 20 at least. He's almost a bowling allrounder by t20 standards.
 
ExpressPacer said:
This could actually work. There's quite a few blokes out there who can bash the ball. There needs to be a talent hunt for powerhitter like the ones we have for fast bowlers. There's GOT TO be at least a few. Especially after the Afridi phenomenon.
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how do u rate navid malik???? awais zia is also not bad,,,
 
DRsohail said:
how do u rate navid malik???? awais zia is also not bad,,,
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I like Navid Malik. He will definitely fail more often than not but the time he succeeds, he will give you the best start you can dream of. He also seems to be in form. He's had a great LA tournament and frankly speaking, he's better at the modern game than most of our batsmen from the look of his stats.
 
ExpressPacer said:
I like Navid Malik. He will definitely fail more often than not but the time he succeeds, he will give you the best start you can dream of. He also seems to be in form. He's had a great LA tournament and frankly speaking, he's better at the modern game than most of our batsmen from the look of his stats.
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another quetion.do u think inzi knows the requirement of a t20 squad.....which is powerful hitters with one are 2 strike rotators....
 
DRsohail said:
another quetion.do u think inzi knows the requirement of a t20 squad.....which is powerful hitters with one are 2 strike rotators....
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Not really. I was hopeful Inzi would really give talented guys a shot but he keeps bringing back Tried and Tested Failures. Hafeez, Shehzad, Kamran Akmal and Sarfraz should not be a part of the squad. 2 of them are too old and the others aren't cut out for the T/20 format. You need explosive players, not accumulators. We already have accumulators in Malik and Babar.

But then again, you can't really blame Inzi. The cupboard is as empty as it gets currently. Who is the bright star in domestics that we should give a shot? The best one, Zaman, has proved to be a total dud vs Pace.
 
another solution can be the players from the U19 team, call the aggressive batsmen from that team at NCA and work on them
 
Most of them are sloggers and are not going to last on the international stage just like the Windies hacks when they play quality bowlers. There's a reason why only Samuels and Lewis have scored, and crap like Pollard continue to fail. We need players like Talat, Umar, Ahsan and Rafay in the side.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Most of them are sloggers and are not going to last on the international stage just like the Windies hacks when they play quality bowlers. There's a reason why only Samuels and Lewis have scored, and crap like Pollard continue to fail. We need players like Talat, Umar, Ahsan and Rafay in the side.
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hmmm.Khushdil is another one in that list. but who should replace them? the selectors are afraid of giving youngsters more chances.
 
fakhar zaman power
imad wasim
umar akmal power
sarfraz ahmed
hammad azam power
sohaib maqsood power
aamer yamin power
Kamran akmal power
shadab khan
mohammad amir
mohammad asghar

3 excellent spinners, 3 fast bowlers, and plenty of hitting through the lineup. eay fix for anybody with decent I.q



bench: anwar ali hasan ali shoaib malik
 
One of the criticisms I had of the PSL is whilst there was an abundance of young Pakistani bowlers - there were hardly any young batsmen given an opportunity - let alone power hitters. Awais Zia and Mukhtar Ahmed weren't picked, whilst Shahzaib Hasan played one match before being embroiled in the fixing scandal which took away took decent powerhitters we had in Sharjeel and Latif.

Sohaib Maqsood did play and was an utter failure as he was on his previous international outings. He has too many technical issues.

Out of the 251 sixes hit in PSL, only 48% were from local players - now bear in mind there's only a max of four foreigners in each team ! Shahid Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad and Misbah-ul-Haq accounted for 41% of all the sixes hit by Pakistani batsmen - so the situation is desperate.

If you look at the Pentangular Cup squads, whilst there's a lot of promising young batsmen and bowlers, there's hardly any powerhitters like Ahsan Ali or Awais Zia.
 
Citizen4 said:
hmmm.Khushdil is another one in that list. but who should replace them? the selectors are afraid of giving youngsters more chances.
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I haven't seen Khushdil bat but batsmen coming through from KPK haven't really impressed. They are not taught well at a young age.
 
The two biggest hitters in Pakistan are Naved Malik and Ali Khan.
One an opener and the other a late order hitter.
Sadly both didnt work hard. Should have been in the team by now.
 
Naved Malik is the obvious one, im not adverse to giving Zia another go either. Mukhtar deserves a go too

I would also add talat and Hammad into the squad
 
People not in the squad are always those with unlimited potential and are oozing with talent. Only on PP.



Nauman Anwar cannot buy a run these days. Awais Zia and Mukhtar Ahmed are gully mohallah level players. Naved Malik is being touted as some sort of savior for our batting. He is 32 years old and has an average of 23 in domestic T20s. You can make an educated guess that he will average atleast 5-6 runs lower in international T20s.
 
Citizen4 said:
hmmm.Khushdil is another one in that list. but who should replace them? the selectors are afraid of giving youngsters more chances.
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Khushdil isn't good enough.

Ugly stance, terrible grip and limited around the ground.
 
Couple of years ago I thought Mussadiq was good. Haven't seen enough though.

In any case, Afridi was a power hitter and still we were losing left right and centre.

Solution isn't in finding power hitters. Selectors have to sort out top 5 in accordance to modern day cricket.

Got to slot in Zeeshan Malik and Harris Sohail somehow in top 5.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Look the best one we had was Sharjeel Khan followed by Khalid Latif and then Shahzaib but they're gone. What a travesty that the ONLY guys we had somewhat capable of playing the modern game are lost. We can breed some news ones hopefully but at the moment, the guys we have are:

- Nauman Anwar.
- Awais Zia.
- Naved Malik.
- Mukhtar Ahmed (God knows where he is)

These guys are GENUINE powerhitters. I'm not talking about your Fakhar Zamans or Hussain Talat's who can play the modern game and maintain a good strike rate or whatever. - We all know that never works out. These bunch of guys are people who can slog the ball. And going by that, the cupboard is pretty empty because all these 3 are hacks and will fail 8 times out of 10.
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All of these are hacks no need to bring them.....
FAWAD ALAM is the MAN..... super MUSCLES and SKY ROCKETING """"" SIXES""""" simple dats all pak needs
 
Syed1 said:
People not in the squad are always those with unlimited potential and are oozing with talent. Only on PP.



Nauman Anwar cannot buy a run these days. Awais Zia and Mukhtar Ahmed are gully mohallah level players. Naved Malik is being touted as some sort of savior for our batting. He is 32 years old and has an average of 23 in domestic T20s. You can make an educated guess that he will average atleast 5-6 runs lower in international T20s.
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Well our 'flamboyant' T20 opener batting at the moment has a T20I strike-rate of 113 - What's your solution to this problem? :shezzy
 
Getting so-called "power hitters" into the squad is not an option, we should just get players who play proper modern cricket into the squad. The power hitters mentioned in this thread are just some hacks that are going to fail if they get called up. The likes of Talat need to be in the squad. I'd also like to see Yamin in the squad again, he's by no means a perfect batting all-rounder but he's better than Tanvir...
 
Chief Destroyer said:
I haven't seen Khushdil bat but batsmen coming through from KPK haven't really impressed. They are not taught well at a young age.
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You're actually correct here. There's that Israrullah who is another low quality batsman imposter.

Ellipsism said:
Khushdil isn't good enough.

Ugly stance, terrible grip and limited around the ground.
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Again true.

Btw have you seen this Naveed Malik guy bat?

I see him being hyped but all these folks are mostly stats people and they had hyped FAkhar, Shehzad for his comeback etc. So I don't really trust the hype.
 
Can't take opinions of ppl here seriously after how the biggest hacks Awais Zia & Shahzaib Hasan were hyped.
 
Hawkeye said:
You're actually correct here. There's that Israrullah who is another low quality batsman imposter.



Again true.

Btw have you seen this Naveed Malik guy bat?

I see him being hyped but all these folks are mostly stats people and they had hyped FAkhar, Shehzad for his comeback etc. So I don't really trust the hype.
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Naveed Malik is alright. Not a bad hack, Reasonable for t20s that's it.
 
Is he the same naveed malik who played for Lahore bad shah in ICL ?
 
Who knows.... where our cricket is going. Intensive training session needed on selected players but who gonna select whom is the big question.

Not only we need big hitters, we also in need of pacer all rounder on urgent basis if we plan for the next world cup.
 
why dont we have 10days session with base bowl coach for 10days and see how things are going...
 
in_cutter said:
You are either born a power hitter or not. Training will not make any difference.
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if you are talking about the raw ability of the likes of Gayle and Afridi ( when he used his brain) then yes.

However boundary hitting can be thought, much of it is technique based, for example almost all of our players hold the bat so low down the handle they can get any leverage, they also get into a position where they aren't stable when the ball has reached them, such things are good for getting single but not for hitting out.

They can learn from the likes of Hussey who was not a boundary hitter at all but became it by making adjustments.

This is why i advocate for people like Hammad, I'm not saying he will be a great player, but at least he has the technique to hit big
 
[MENTION=139734]Langau[/MENTION] No thats naveed latif you are talking about the one in ICL
 
[MENTION=139734]Langau[/MENTION] Naveed malik should open for pakistan in T-20 he is very explosive player better than Shehzad tuk tuk
 
So Naveed Malik, Shahzaib Hasan, Ali Khan, Sohail Khan, Asif Afridi and now 19 years old Nabi Gul is a new entry. He hit 5 sixes in one innings vs Durham.


Kamran Ghulam and Hussain Tallat can both develop into one. Amad is also work in progress.


Shelf isn't empty. Eye Needed.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
So Naveed Malik, Shahzaib Hasan, Ali Khan, Sohail Khan, Asif Afridi and now 19 years old Nabi Gul is a new entry. He hit 5 sixes in one innings vs Durham.


Kamran Ghulam and Hussain Tallat can both develop into one. Amad is also work in progress.


Shelf isn't empty. Eye Needed.
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Hasan Khan.
 
Another world tournament is fast approaching and yet again we are going into it with a half fractured batting lineup.

If we genuinely look at it, Pakistan will most probably play 7 grafters into their XI :facepalm: while competing against top sides in Modern day ODIs this is just a disaster waiting to happen......

I was probably the most adamant critiszer of Afridi during his playing days however now I have unfortunately realized these new boys and even established players don't even hold a candle to the power hitting skills that man had. The only one who came somewhat close to matching that type of a batting style was Sharjeel and thanks to Mr. Sethi he will may not return to the Pakistani colors for a very long time :sanga

With all this being said, can we now know who are the genuine power hitters in domestics that can replicate even half of what Afridi did during his prime days ?? And please don't mention UA or KA.....we've had enough of these two idiots !!

I would want to know who can, just like Afridi, completely shut off his brain and swing from the hip. There has to be someone in domestics who could genuinely be a good power hitter.....
 
Yamin is too good of a batsman to be described as someone who "shuts off his brain and swings from the hip." However he is a clean striker of the ball
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yamin is too good of a batsman to be described as someone who "shuts off his brain and swings from the hip." However he is a clean striker of the ball
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The shutting of the brain was meant to mean that is there someone who has the on field audacity to take the attack to the opposition just like how Afridi did???

Is Amin that sort of a player that can induce this type of a scar on the opposition ??
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
The shutting of the brain was meant to mean that is there someone who has the on field audacity to take the attack to the opposition just like how Afridi did???

Is Amin that sort of a player that can induce this type of a scar on the opposition ??
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Yes but he is much more of a proper batsman than afridi
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yamin is too good of a batsman to be described as someone who "shuts off his brain and swings from the hip." However he is a clean striker of the ball
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Yamin's highest score is 63.

Average of 26 in our pathetic domestic list A's. He is no Klusener
 
I think Khurram Manzoor deserves a go

He has been averaging like 80 @ 120 for a few seasons now.

Put him in and ask him to play with no inhibitions
 
aliasad1998 said:
Yes but he is much more of a proper batsman than afridi
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With all due respect to your opinion on Yamin bro we actually, at this point in time, do not necessarily need a 'proper batsman' batsman in our lineup.

We need someone who can hack away, consistently during the PP overs and when the field is up.....

At the moment we have 6 proper batsmen in the lineup and our ODI side can't chase or make totals on 300s to save their lives...

Hackism is needed at this point in time!!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
With all due respect to your opinion on Yamin bro we actually, at this point in time, do not necessarily need a 'proper batsman' batsman in our lineup.

We need someone who can hack away, consistently during the PP overs and when the field is up.....

At the moment we have 6 proper batsmen in the lineup and our ODI side can't chase or make totals on 300s to save their lives...

Hackism is needed at this point in time!!
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Imad is a hack
 
We need a Brendon McCullum type captain. Like he did with Qalandars. Ofcourse results didnt come but the intent was there
 
Slog said:
I think Khurram Manzoor deserves a go

He has been averaging like 80 @ 120 for a few seasons now.

Put him in and ask him to play with no inhibitions
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You need to factor in the reduction in numbers for the jump from Domestics to Internationals.....

Let's be honest here he won't average 80 odd if we get him a comeback however I'd be mighty pleased if he gives us 30 avg with a 110 SR....
 
Slog said:
I think Khurram Manzoor deserves a go

He has been averaging like 80 @ 120 for a few seasons now.

Put him in and ask him to play with no inhibitions
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Shehzad plays at around 100 SR in domestics...
 
Slog said:
We need a Brendon McCullum type captain. Like he did with Qalandars. Ofcourse results didnt come but the intent was there
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Speaking of Qalandars....whatever happened to Fakhir Zaman ??? Looked a very neat striker of the ball during the PSL if I remember correctly !!

Did he had a sub par Pakistan One Day Cup ??
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
You need to factor in the reduction in numbers for the jump from Domestics to Internationals.....

Let's be honest here he won't average 80 odd if we get him a comeback however I'd be mighty pleased if he gives us 30 avg with a 110 SR....
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if he can do 40 @ 90 that would be unbelievably good
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Speaking of Qalandars....whatever happened to Fakhir Zaman ??? Looked a very neat striker of the ball during the PSL if I remember correctly !!

Did he had a sub par Pakistan One Day Cup ??
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He's actually in the current Pakistan squad. Now we just need a powerful right hander to partner him.
 
Slog said:
if he can do 40 @ 90 that would be unbelievably good
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Azhar during his breakout year in ODIs I believe was doing 40 @ 90 and therefore he seemed the most competent batsman among the ones that were given a hiding in Bangladesh...

I am not too sure Khurram can do 40 @ 90 against top sides that is the reason why I mentioned the 30 @ 110 numbers.....

What do you think does he warrant a call back ??
 
Slog said:
We need a Brendon McCullum type captain. Like he did with Qalandars. Ofcourse results didnt come but the intent was there
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I agree with this. A rebuilding team like ours needs an attacking, fearless captain. Already ranked 8th. Nothing to lose. Only way is up.
 
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