Who has the most Test centuries if a double-century counted as 2 and a triple counted as 3?

[Blitz]

Yep.

Who has the most Test centuries if a double-century counted as 2 and a triple counted as 3?

Hasn't anyone else ever wondered that? I have, so I thought I would have a quick look. The ability to look at the same stats in a new light is always welcome, especially with cricket where it gets quite boring looking at the same linear numbers.

I only looked at one criteria. Players with more then 20 test centuries.

Heres the list of the top 15, when all centuries are counted:



No surprise there, Tendulker is ahead by some distance, even on this barometer. But interesting to see Sangakara so high, with a lot less matches.

Lets apply an average of matches, and then innings:




Sangakara extremely underrated overall and one would think someone who retired too early, given his recent county exploits. Bradman topping the lists by an insane amount just adds credibility to it.

Lara who seems to be getting less credit as the day goes by, remains near the top as of the greatest ever. His quadruple century counted as 4, and the only one on the list who got that.

Tendulker miles away even from the top 10. Definitely the greatest in terms of longevity, but not really in the picture in terms of pure impact and talent.

In terms of Younis Khan. Imagine if he played the tests India/England do. Could've easily topped the centuries list.

Thoughts?

 

[IgnitedMind]

Lets say somebody played 20 matches...one batsman scored 8 centuries.....and other batsman scored 2 four hundreds. Are they really equal in terms of impact on individual test matches? Or does batsman one have more impact because he impacted 8 matches...while batsman two only impacted 2 test matches out of 20 he played?

One more flawed logic ... one more attempt to bring tendu down using bizarre lens looking at statistics.!

 

[Rayyman]

Sangakkarra is overrated due to stats. He is not an ATG.

 

[Blitz]

Lets say somebody played 20 matches...one batsman scored 8 centuries.....and other batsman scored 2 four hundreds. Are they really equal in terms of impact on individual test matches? Or does batsman one have more impact because he impacted 8 matches...while batsman two only impacted 2 test matches out of 20 he played?

One more flawed logic ... one more attempt to bring tendu down using bizarre lens looking at statistics.!

Sheesh the obsession.

If I wanted to bring Tendu down, I'd just divide his innings by centuries, and compare them to everyone else as he fails to make the top 10. Rather then making up a new analysis. This is just something fun.

Please move on. He retired ages ago.

 

[aloo paratha]

Sangakkarra is overrated due to stats. He is not an ATG.

He's scored runs at a better average than Tendulkar, what makes you think he is not an ATG.

 

[CricFan2012]

He's scored runs at a better average than Tendulkar, what makes you think he is not an ATG.

Tendulkar played in 90s against ATG bowlers while Sanga played his golden years in an era where the only ATG bowler has been Steyn.

 

[Rayyman]

He's scored runs at a better average than Tendulkar, what makes you think he is not an ATG.

Cricket is not played on a spreadsheet.

In fact, YK, Mahela, Inzi, Dravid, Kallis Chanderpaul and Moyo were all of the same era and better than Sanga.

How is one not even a Top 6 batsman of his era and considered an ATG?!?

 

[Ab Fan]

Sangakkara is an ATG but it also needs to be noted that he got to play more % of his games in Asian conditions and a number of games vs minnows too.His outside Asia record is good but had he played more amount of games there those stats would have gone down a bit.

It will be interesting to note the % of games top Asian batters played outside Asia.

Not to forget the difference in quality of bowling attack .However ,all this doesn't take away the fact that his last 10 years were as good as anyone and clearly the best in comparison to the current ones.If you add his keeping skills to that and the fact that he was the integral part of Sri Lankan limited over team he is a bonafide ATG without any doubt.

 

[backfootpunch]

Cricket is not played on a spreadsheet.

In fact, YK, Mahela, Inzi, Dravid, Kallis Chanderpaul and Moyo were all of the same era and better than Sanga.

How is one not even a Top 6 batsman of his era and considered an ATG?!?

LOL seriously?

 

[Rayyman]

LOL seriously?

He is underrated due to playing for a poor team. Also other reasons.

 

[backfootpunch]

He is underrated due to playing for a poor team. Also other reasons.

I think he was a selfish coward who would play for himself. Also if you look at his averages vs spin and pace it's not great. It's the not outs that crank the average above 50. That is the truth to why he's seldomly mentioned amongst the greats of the game.

 

[aloo paratha]

Tendulkar played in 90s against ATG bowlers while Sanga played his golden years in an era where the only ATG bowler has been Steyn.

I'm not saying Tendulkar isn't an ATG, I was just giving an example. Nobody in this era was able to score these many runs (and as elegantly as he did) in all conditions while nobody else really could. ATG in my opinion.

 

[SL_Fan]

Never thought of looking at things that way. Good insight there OP interesting read. The Don with 43 off 80 unreal.

 

[SL_Fan]

Tendulkar played in 90s against ATG bowlers while Sanga played his golden years in an era where the only ATG bowler has been Steyn.

Strength of the attack as a whole would matter more than individual bowlers. Btw here's how the 10k club bats have fared against above median (ie stronger) attacks. This was done a couple of years back so not fully up to date for some on there and YK for example is missing.

The guy used weighted average to determine the strengths of the attacks these batsmen faced going through all of their innings one by one. He also found out the median for all Tests by going through and doing the same for all Test matches in order to divide them into stronger (below median) and weaker (above median) attacks. So a fairly thorough analysis this one.

 

[JibranAnsari]

BTW its match per 100 and innings per 100.

 

[TQ89]

Strength of the attack as a whole would matter more than individual bowlers. Btw here's how the 10k club bats have fared against above median (ie stronger) attacks. This was done a couple of years back so not fully up to date for some on there and YK for example is missing.

The guy used weighted average to determine the strengths of the attacks these batsmen faced going through all of their innings one by one. He also found out the median for all Tests by going through and doing the same for all Test matches in order to divide them into stronger (below median) and weaker (above median) attacks. So a fairly thorough analysis this one.

which site you got this tables.Just asking

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

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The only 'advantage' SRT has over ATG batters is his longevity (which is not a mean feat. SRT is a legend and highly rated by all bowlers who bowled against him). And any ATG can score as many (or more) runs if he payed for same amount of time/innings (Sanga being the latest example).

Cook might break SRT records (if he stays fit and in form).

 

[New Yorker]

Cricket is not played on a spreadsheet.

In fact, YK, Mahela, Inzi, Dravid, Kallis Chanderpaul and Moyo were all of the same era and better than Sanga.

How is one not even a Top 6 batsman of his era and considered an ATG?!?

Where do you think the numbers that are written down on spreadsheets come from? Mars?

Players play cricket, on cricket grounds. The results are written down and tabulated. The horror.

You're perfectly entitled to believe that numbers don't capture everything of a player's worth. The problem is when you expect us to discount numbers in favour of some obscure subjective assessment, eg yes 'X scored 10 more centuries than Y, but Y had such a beautiful backlift...'

 

[Bilal7]

Hashim Amla has the best matches/centuries and innings/centuries ratio out of any South African.

More proof that Younis Khan is a legend and easily one of the top five batsmen from Asia.

 

[SL_Fan]

which site you got this tables.Just asking

Google Which batsmen thrive against the best bowlers? It was done by Kartikeya Date must have taken ages to go through all that.

 

[AlizeeFan]

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The only 'advantage' SRT has over ATG batters is his longevity (which is not a mean feat. SRT is a legend and highly rated by all bowlers who bowled against him). And any ATG can score as many (or more) runs if he payed for same amount of time/innings (Sanga being the latest example).

Cook might break SRT records (if he stays fit and in form).

Remove longetivity

122 matches, 10077 runs at avg of 57.58 and 34 100s.

How many better batsman without that?

 

[AlizeeFan]

From 1993 to 2011 SA series, SRT scored 13607 runs in 157 matches at an avg of 59.41 and 47 100s.

Kallis scored 13289 runs in 166 matches at avg of 55 and 45 100s.
Ponting 13378 runs in 164 matches avg of 51.8 and 41 100s
Sangkara 12400 runs in 134 matches at avg of 57.40 with 38 100s.

No batsman in history of the game has ever looked like scoring those many runs at such high average except Sangakara. Good luck thinking that any ATG can do this.

Clearly longetivity has only reduced the gloss of his stats, otherwise leaving out his way too early start and extended stay in Indian team paints different picture altogether.

 

[Itachi]

Hashim Amla has the best matches/centuries and innings/centuries ratio out of any South African.

More proof that Younis Khan is a legend and easily one of the top five batsmen from Asia.

People are talking over all and someone (just to fit Amla somewhere in this) makes the set about South Africans and state. "the best in the business from South Africa".

.... Seriously, what's so obsession with Amla?

 

[yasir]

Tendulkar played in 90s against ATG bowlers while Sanga played his golden years in an era where the only ATG bowler has been Steyn.

Tendulkar and Lara did not played in bumper era. They both had weakness against short pitch bowling. Bumpers rules were change in mid to late 80s because of strong WI lineup.

All these 90s and afterwards never really see the hostile stuff. In 90s the real threat was reverse swing by Pakistanis, Tendulkar rarely played against us. I am not sure how he was special and not Sanga?? :Sanga:

 

[mak36]

Sheesh the obsession.

If I wanted to bring Tendu down, I'd just divide his innings by centuries, and compare them to everyone else as he fails to make the top 10. Rather then making up a new analysis. This is just something fun.

Please move on. He retired ages ago.

I'm intrigued- what do you mean by this?

 

[Abdullah719]

I'm intrigued- what do you mean by this?

He's referring to Test innings per hundred. Amongst batsman with at least 20 Test hundreds, Bradman is of course far ahead of the others, taking around 2.75 inns/100. Next is Steve Smith, with 5 inns/100. Then Sanga at 6.13. Sachin is at approximately 6.45.

Smith is ridiculously consistent with the Test hundreds...