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Who is the best fast-bowler in the Test format at the moment?

Who is the best fast-bowler in the Test format at the moment?

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Some exciting Test matches in progress at the moment so am sure people have their favorites so lets see.
 
Surprising to not see Anderson and Broad in the list of contenders.

Also surprising that Mohammad Abbas and Mohammad Shami have gain one vote already.

For me it's Josh Hazlewood!
 
Mobashir said:
Surprising to not see Anderson and Broad in the list of contenders.

Also surprising that Mohammad Abbas and Mohammad Shami have gain one vote already.

For me it's Josh Hazlewood!
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Anderson/Broad there now
 
Cummins, Starc, Rabada, and surprisingly Bhuvi although the latter has probably bullied weak teams in helpful conditions. But bhuvi is almost as good as any in terms of his ability to swing the new ball. Unsurprisingly the first 3 are all express quicks.

Anderson, Broad, Boult and Southee seem to off form but can be devestating when on song. Coincidentally all 4 of these guys are medium pacers.
 
Shutdown Corner said:
Cummins, Starc, Rabada, and surprisingly Bhuvi although the latter has probably bullied weak teams in helpful conditions. But bhuvi is almost as good as any in terms of his ability to swing the new ball. Unsurprisingly the first 3 are all express quicks.

Anderson, Broad, Boult and Southee seem to off form but can be devestating when on song. Coincidentally all 4 of these guys are medium pacers.
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Hazlewood ain't good enough?

For me he's the best test bowler in the world followed by Rabada.

Starc is grossly overrated in test cricket, his action is great for maximising pace but it does limit the amount of bounce he can get from a good length; and to add on the majority of his wickets are of tailenders, which again proves my initial point that his action limits what he can achieve in test cricket. It's great for spearing it in at the stumps (hence, being one of the best ODI bowlers in the world) but your not going to get decent top order players out by simply spearing it in unless it's swinging, which it hardly does in the modern day.
 
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Hiraeth said:
Hazlewood ain't good enough?

For me he's the best test bowler in the world followed by Rabada.

Starc is grossly overrated in test cricket, his action is great for maximising pace but it does limit the amount of bounce he can get from a good length; and to add on the majority of his wickets are of tailenders, which again proves my initial point that his action limits what he can achieve in test cricket. It's great for spearing it in at the stumps (hence, being one of the best ODI bowlers in the world) but your not going to get decent top order players out by simply spearing it in unless it's swinging, which it hardly does in the modern day.
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Yeah Hazelwood definitely in the top tier. Not sure if he's better than Rabada or Starc. I would say Cummins is amongst the very best right at the moment.
 
Shutdown Corner said:
Cummins, Starc, Rabada, and surprisingly Bhuvi although the latter has probably bullied weak teams in helpful conditions. But bhuvi is almost as good as any in terms of his ability to swing the new ball. Unsurprisingly the first 3 are all express quicks.

Anderson, Broad, Boult and Southee seem to off form but can be devestating when on song. Coincidentally all 4 of these guys are medium pacers.
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Bhuvneshwar is not even close to Starc and Rabada. Hazzlewood has more pace than him, more height, and more or less the same ability to swing the ball.

Broad and Boult especcially are not medium pacers. Boult was bowling in the early 140s a couple of days ago, and in India. Broad's average pace is around 135, which is not medium pace.
 
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Hassan Ali and Pat Cummins will be top bowlers in the coming years, we just need to give them more time because as of now they haven't played enough test cricket.
 
Shutdown Corner said:
Yeah Hazelwood definitely in the top tier. Not sure if he's better than Rabada or Starc. I would say Cummins is amongst the very best right at the moment.
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Apart from a single series against SL Starc is yet to do more than simply run through the tail, and as I said previously this trend for Starc in test cricket is going to continue.
 
Hiraeth said:
Apart from a single series against SL Starc is yet to do more than simply run through the tail, and as I said previously this trend for Starc in test cricket is going to continue.
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To add on he's not even the best test bowler in his own side, quite the opposite actually with both Cummins and Hazlewood being superior bowlers, in the longer format. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say there are better test bowlers in the domestic circuit then Starc- one of em' being Behrendorff.
 
Hiraeth said:
To add on he's not even the best test bowler in his own side, quite the opposite actually with both Cummins and Hazlewood being superior bowlers, in the longer format. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say there are better test bowlers in the domestic circuit then Starc- one of em' being Behrendorff.
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Agree with this. In the action itself a delayed arm and the long stride are all good to generate pace, but the bounce goes missing. Hence, Starc is over-reliant on producing that magic delivery to dismiss batsman. Spearing it in is all good to the tailender but your not going to get batsman out like that.
 
It is tough actually to say. Starc is definitely not.

Many are saying Hazlewood but he has his flaws and think is a bit dependent on things.

Cummins I would love to name but he won't play enough and will go down as inferior to those two but he is IMO the best bowler in that side at the moment.

Rabada is great and up there too.

Now before Anderson, I would put Broad as one in reckoning. Underrated bowler.

Philander and Boult are definitely not the best but can make it to top5.
 
Philander and Wagner are better than at least half of the names on that list.
 
Rabada, Hazlewood at the top. Not sure who's better of the two, quite different styles.

Pat Cummins is about 1 injury free year away from shooting to the top though.
 
Hazlewood is your answer to how McGrath would be bowling in a batting era, which is still very well, identical bowling.

Rabada needs more tests to be proven, because I can guarantee you that Hazlewood will end up with stats like McGrath so he is proven, will be tough for Rabs but we'll see
 
Last 2 years (min 25 wickets)

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]5W [/td][td]10W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JM Anderson (ENG) [/td][td]21 [/td][td]83 [/td][td]19.81 [/td][td]2.38 [/td][td]49.9 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]K Rabada (SA) [/td][td]19 [/td][td]100 [/td][td]22.06 [/td][td]3.51 [/td][td]37.6 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Wagner (NZ) [/td][td]17 [/td][td]79 [/td][td]23.18 [/td][td]3.02 [/td][td]46 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KJ Abbott (SA) [/td][td]7 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]23.46 [/td][td]2.4 [/td][td]58.4 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VD Philander (SA) [/td][td]14 [/td][td]45 [/td][td]23.48 [/td][td]2.65 [/td][td]53 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammed Shami (INDIA) [/td][td]15 [/td][td]45 [/td][td]24.22 [/td][td]2.96 [/td][td]49 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MA Starc (AUS) [/td][td]13 [/td][td]63 [/td][td]24.47 [/td][td]3.39 [/td][td]43.3 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JR Hazlewood (AUS) [/td][td]21 [/td][td]69 [/td][td]26.97 [/td][td]2.59 [/td][td]62.4 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Morkel (SA) [/td][td]13 [/td][td]52 [/td][td]27.3 [/td][td]3.02 [/td][td]54.1 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SCJ Broad (ENG) [/td][td]24 [/td][td]76 [/td][td]27.82 [/td][td]2.73 [/td][td]61 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]BA Stokes (ENG) [/td][td]20 [/td][td]50 [/td][td]28.08 [/td][td]3.1 [/td][td]54.2 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TG Southee (NZ) [/td][td]13 [/td][td]54 [/td][td]28.14 [/td][td]3.03 [/td][td]55.7 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CR Woakes (ENG) [/td][td]16 [/td][td]46 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]3.08 [/td][td]58.2 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TA Boult (NZ) [/td][td]16 [/td][td]56 [/td][td]30.19 [/td][td]2.9 [/td][td]62.3 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wahab Riaz (PAK) [/td][td]11 [/td][td]40 [/td][td]32.85 [/td][td]3.56 [/td][td]55.3 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Gabriel (WI) [/td][td]16 [/td][td]44 [/td][td]33 [/td][td]3.16 [/td][td]62.5 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]UT Yadav (INDIA) [/td][td]20 [/td][td]51 [/td][td]33.03 [/td][td]3.09 [/td][td]64.1 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sohail Khan (PAK) [/td][td]7 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]33.84 [/td][td]3.55 [/td][td]57.1 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Amir (PAK) [/td][td]16 [/td][td]44 [/td][td]37.25 [/td][td]2.76 [/td][td]80.7 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Pradeep (SL) [/td][td]13 [/td][td]34 [/td][td]38.11 [/td][td]3.39 [/td][td]67.3 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RAS Lakmal (SL) [/td][td]18 [/td][td]45 [/td][td]38.82 [/td][td]3.08 [/td][td]75.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JO Holder (WI) [/td][td]19 [/td][td]34 [/td][td]41.44 [/td][td]2.58 [/td][td]96.1 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
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Last Year (min 20 wickets)

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]5W [/td][td]10W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JM Anderson (ENG) [/td][td]42 [/td][td]17.5 [/td][td]2.32 [/td][td]45.2 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]23 [/td][td]21.34 [/td][td]2.43 [/td][td]52.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]K Rabada (SA) [/td][td]58 [/td][td]21.93 [/td][td]3.34 [/td][td]39.3 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VD Philander (SA) [/td][td]29 [/td][td]23.62 [/td][td]2.64 [/td][td]53.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KAJ Roach (WI) [/td][td]22 [/td][td]25.04 [/td][td]3.01 [/td][td]49.9 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Wagner (NZ) [/td][td]29 [/td][td]25.37 [/td][td]3.25 [/td][td]46.8 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Morkel (SA) [/td][td]34 [/td][td]25.44 [/td][td]3.17 [/td][td]48 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JR Hazlewood (AUS) [/td][td]28 [/td][td]26.21 [/td][td]2.26 [/td][td]69.4 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Gabriel (WI) [/td][td]28 [/td][td]28.78 [/td][td]2.94 [/td][td]58.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MA Starc (AUS) [/td][td]25 [/td][td]30.24 [/td][td]3.26 [/td][td]55.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]UT Yadav (INDIA) [/td][td]34 [/td][td]31.29 [/td][td]3.3 [/td][td]56.8 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SCJ Broad (ENG) [/td][td]25 [/td][td]34.64 [/td][td]2.81 [/td][td]73.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JO Holder (WI) [/td][td]22 [/td][td]35.04 [/td][td]2.48 [/td][td]84.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RAS Lakmal (SL) [/td][td]28 [/td][td]36.85 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]73.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
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jeetu said:
Last Year (min 20 wickets)

[table= class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]5W [/td][td]10W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JM Anderson (ENG) [/td][td]42 [/td][td]17.5 [/td][td]2.32 [/td][td]45.2 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]23 [/td][td]21.34 [/td][td]2.43 [/td][td]52.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]K Rabada (SA) [/td][td]58 [/td][td]21.93 [/td][td]3.34 [/td][td]39.3 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VD Philander (SA) [/td][td]29 [/td][td]23.62 [/td][td]2.64 [/td][td]53.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KAJ Roach (WI) [/td][td]22 [/td][td]25.04 [/td][td]3.01 [/td][td]49.9 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Wagner (NZ) [/td][td]29 [/td][td]25.37 [/td][td]3.25 [/td][td]46.8 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Morkel (SA) [/td][td]34 [/td][td]25.44 [/td][td]3.17 [/td][td]48 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JR Hazlewood (AUS) [/td][td]28 [/td][td]26.21 [/td][td]2.26 [/td][td]69.4 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Gabriel (WI) [/td][td]28 [/td][td]28.78 [/td][td]2.94 [/td][td]58.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MA Starc (AUS) [/td][td]25 [/td][td]30.24 [/td][td]3.26 [/td][td]55.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]UT Yadav (INDIA) [/td][td]34 [/td][td]31.29 [/td][td]3.3 [/td][td]56.8 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SCJ Broad (ENG) [/td][td]25 [/td][td]34.64 [/td][td]2.81 [/td][td]73.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JO Holder (WI) [/td][td]22 [/td][td]35.04 [/td][td]2.48 [/td][td]84.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RAS Lakmal (SL) [/td][td]28 [/td][td]36.85 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]73.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
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Anderson has 13 wickets from 7 away matches in the last 2 years at an avg of 45.
Just saying
 
CricFan2012 said:
Hazlewood is your answer to how McGrath would be bowling in a batting era, which is still very well, identical bowling.

Rabada needs more tests to be proven, because I can guarantee you that Hazlewood will end up with stats like McGrath so he is proven, will be tough for Rabs but we'll see
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Rabada averages 22, champ.
 
WengerOut said:
Anderson has 13 wickets from 7 away matches in the last 2 years at an avg of 45.
Just saying
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I agree
Away Stats (last 2 years) (min 10 wickets)
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[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]5W [/td][td]10W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KJ Abbott (SA) [/td][td]3 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]14.73 [/td][td]2.3 [/td][td]38.4 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MA Starc (AUS) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]17.75 [/td][td]3.54 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]3 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]19.2 [/td][td]2.28 [/td][td]50.4 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Wagner (NZ) [/td][td]6 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]21.36 [/td][td]2.53 [/td][td]50.6 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammed Shami (INDIA) [/td][td]7 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]21.95 [/td][td]2.99 [/td][td]43.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SCJ Broad (ENG) [/td][td]10 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]24.83 [/td][td]2.52 [/td][td]59 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]BA Stokes (ENG) [/td][td]11 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]26.38 [/td][td]3.05 [/td][td]51.8 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Morkel (SA) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]33 [/td][td]27.39 [/td][td]3.08 [/td][td]53.3 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]K Rabada (SA) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]39 [/td][td]28.25 [/td][td]3.21 [/td][td]52.7 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PJ Cummins (AUS) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]29.71 [/td][td]2.97 [/td][td]60 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VD Philander (SA) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]2.66 [/td][td]67.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Finn (ENG) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]30.45 [/td][td]3.29 [/td][td]55.4 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sohail Khan (PAK) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]31.43 [/td][td]3.83 [/td][td]49.2 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PVD Chameera (SL) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]31.56 [/td][td]4.59 [/td][td]41.2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TA Boult (NZ) [/td][td]7 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]32.47 [/td][td]2.78 [/td][td]70 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]UT Yadav (INDIA) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]33.09 [/td][td]3.42 [/td][td]57.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Amir (PAK) [/td][td]12 [/td][td]37 [/td][td]33.62 [/td][td]2.74 [/td][td]73.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JR Hazlewood (AUS) [/td][td]10 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]34.92 [/td][td]2.74 [/td][td]76.2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CBRLS Kumara (SL) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]35.2 [/td][td]4.18 [/td][td]50.4 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KAJ Roach (WI) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]36.27 [/td][td]3.56 [/td][td]61 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RAS Lakmal (SL) [/td][td]12 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]37.45 [/td][td]3.12 [/td][td]71.9 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Pradeep (SL) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]37.52 [/td][td]3.43 [/td][td]65.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wahab Riaz (PAK) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]38.6 [/td][td]3.78 [/td][td]61.1 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TG Southee (NZ) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]40.36 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]80.7 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Gabriel (WI) [/td][td]6 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]41.64 [/td][td]3.5 [/td][td]71.3 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mustafizur Rahman (BDESH) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]41.9 [/td][td]3.26 [/td][td]76.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Rahat Ali (PAK) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]43.35 [/td][td]3.79 [/td][td]68.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JM Anderson (ENG) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]45.5 [/td][td]2.47 [/td][td]110.2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JO Holder (WI) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]53.35 [/td][td]2.9 [/td][td]110.2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CR Woakes (ENG) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]67.3 [/td][td]3.18 [/td][td]126.8 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
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jeetu said:
I agree
Away Stats (last 2 years) (min 10 wickets)
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[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Avg [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]5W [/td][td]10W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KJ Abbott (SA) [/td][td]3 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]14.73 [/td][td]2.3 [/td][td]38.4 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MA Starc (AUS) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]29 [/td][td]17.75 [/td][td]3.54 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]3 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]19.2 [/td][td]2.28 [/td][td]50.4 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Wagner (NZ) [/td][td]6 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]21.36 [/td][td]2.53 [/td][td]50.6 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammed Shami (INDIA) [/td][td]7 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]21.95 [/td][td]2.99 [/td][td]43.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SCJ Broad (ENG) [/td][td]10 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]24.83 [/td][td]2.52 [/td][td]59 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]BA Stokes (ENG) [/td][td]11 [/td][td]31 [/td][td]26.38 [/td][td]3.05 [/td][td]51.8 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]M Morkel (SA) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]33 [/td][td]27.39 [/td][td]3.08 [/td][td]53.3 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]K Rabada (SA) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]39 [/td][td]28.25 [/td][td]3.21 [/td][td]52.7 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PJ Cummins (AUS) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]29.71 [/td][td]2.97 [/td][td]60 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]VD Philander (SA) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]30 [/td][td]2.66 [/td][td]67.6 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Finn (ENG) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]30.45 [/td][td]3.29 [/td][td]55.4 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sohail Khan (PAK) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]31.43 [/td][td]3.83 [/td][td]49.2 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]PVD Chameera (SL) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]31.56 [/td][td]4.59 [/td][td]41.2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TA Boult (NZ) [/td][td]7 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]32.47 [/td][td]2.78 [/td][td]70 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]UT Yadav (INDIA) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]33.09 [/td][td]3.42 [/td][td]57.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Amir (PAK) [/td][td]12 [/td][td]37 [/td][td]33.62 [/td][td]2.74 [/td][td]73.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JR Hazlewood (AUS) [/td][td]10 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]34.92 [/td][td]2.74 [/td][td]76.2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CBRLS Kumara (SL) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]35.2 [/td][td]4.18 [/td][td]50.4 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KAJ Roach (WI) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]22 [/td][td]36.27 [/td][td]3.56 [/td][td]61 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RAS Lakmal (SL) [/td][td]12 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]37.45 [/td][td]3.12 [/td][td]71.9 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]N Pradeep (SL) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]37.52 [/td][td]3.43 [/td][td]65.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wahab Riaz (PAK) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]38.6 [/td][td]3.78 [/td][td]61.1 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TG Southee (NZ) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]40.36 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]80.7 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ST Gabriel (WI) [/td][td]6 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]41.64 [/td][td]3.5 [/td][td]71.3 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mustafizur Rahman (BDESH) [/td][td]4 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]41.9 [/td][td]3.26 [/td][td]76.9 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Rahat Ali (PAK) [/td][td]5 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]43.35 [/td][td]3.79 [/td][td]68.5 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JM Anderson (ENG) [/td][td]8 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]45.5 [/td][td]2.47 [/td][td]110.2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JO Holder (WI) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]53.35 [/td][td]2.9 [/td][td]110.2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CR Woakes (ENG) [/td][td]9 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]67.3 [/td][td]3.18 [/td][td]126.8 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
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Interesting - thanks for that Jeetu
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Rabada averages 22, champ.
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while playing lesser matches, all im saying is Hazlewood is a proven bowler because he's a carbon copy of McGrath, through his action and bowling intellect, he's already proven for me, McGrath was consistently a beast of a cricketer.

Rabada might have slumps where he might not do good because he doesn't have the McGrath DNA to do well on all surfaces, his action is more prone to injury as well unlike Hazles
 
Does anyone notice that champion boy wahab beats softie amir by an average of 5 in tests? You are beauty , wahab👍👍
 
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Fantastic spell by Anderson in the second test to give England a glimmer of hope.
 
Rabada and then Hazlewood. Anderson and Broad are up there too, but not the best at the moment.
 
CricFan2012 said:
while playing lesser matches, all im saying is Hazlewood is a proven bowler because he's a carbon copy of McGrath, through his action and bowling intellect, he's already proven for me, McGrath was consistently a beast of a cricketer.

Rabada might have slumps where he might not do good because he doesn't have the McGrath DNA to do well on all surfaces, his action is more prone to injury as well unlike Hazles
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On the contrary, Josh was toothless in India, apart from Bangalore, & Starc as well as Cummins outbowled him easily. The same goes for his tour of SL & Bangla, first test.

As for Mcgrath he wasn't the tormenter in Chief in India, Gillespie & Kasper were, Warne in case of their tour to SL. If you look at Asia, apart from Pak, in India & SL pacers have done the job & by that I mean real quicks like Marshall, Holding, Donald, Steyn et al.
 
James Anderson and by a considerable margin. If conditions are perfect, he is almost unplayable. That ball to get rid of Vijay in Lords test is the best delivery I hv seen for long time.
#GOAT :jimmy
 
Anderson in certain conditions and then there are a few who are competing against each other.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
James Anderson and by a considerable margin. If conditions are perfect, he is almost unplayable. That ball to get rid of Vijay in Lords test is the best delivery I hv seen for long time.
#GOAT :jimmy
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Right. And if they are not perfect? Compare Anderson in the UAE to Abbas in the UAE.
 
Sachin136 said:
Rabada and then Hazlewood. Anderson and Broad are up there too, but not the best at the moment.
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Hazlewood Ave 27, SR 57
Abbas Ave 15, SR 42

Its early days for Abbas,but the contrast is striking.
He now has the same career SR as Steyn.
 
Abbas is a very good bowler but it's premature to call him 1 of the best test bowlers in the world .

I'll go with Hazelwood just. But Rabada isn't far behind.
 
Two people actually voted for Amir? He shouldn't even be in the list.
 
I think thread is about FAST bowlers, how come abbas come in contention
 
Abbas is the only bowler who is not dependent on conditions to produce wickets. Easily the best currently.
 
rudra said:
I think thread is about FAST bowlers, how come abbas come in contention
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So one of the greatest ever in Mcgrath shouldn't be considered as great since he wasn't fast enough?

Interestingly Kapil dev, a medium pacer, remains india best ever fast bowler, guys like you probably thinks that he was a leggie.
 
ali2220 said:
So one of the greatest ever in Mcgrath shouldn't be considered as great since he wasn't fast enough?

Interestingly Kapil dev, a medium pacer, remains india best ever fast bowler, guys like you probably thinks that he was a leggie.
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Mohd Abbas has great skills and takes wickets which is all that matters.
Just wanted to show how some PPers disrespect kapil paji.
 
rudra said:
Mohd Abbas has great skills and takes wickets which is all that matters.
Just wanted to show how some PPers disrespect kapil paji.
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No disrespect but have you looked at his test average?
 
Anderson
Rabada
Steyn if fit
Broad
Hazlewood
Boult

Rest are only also runs at this point in time.
 
Let's not go overboard. Abbas has had a better start than almost any other bowler but it is only a start at this point.

rudra said:
Mohd Abbas has great skills and takes wickets which is all that matters.
Just wanted to show how some PPers disrespect kapil paji.
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Kapil "paji" had more things missing from his game than just pace. Hence the average of 30.

IndianMafia said:
Surprised to see no contenders for Bumrah !
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What has he done so far? Nothing except bowling well in friendly conditions.
 
Rabada, he is destined to end up in GOAT contention by the time he hangs up his boots.
 
Rabada followed by Anderson.

Bumrah, Abbas, and Cummins have too small a sample size right now.
 
the performances need to be tabulated relative to other fast bowlers. Ex, how was Rabada's SR and AVG compared to Morne/Steyn/Philander/Shami/Bhuvi in a Ind V RSA match
 
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