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Who is the bigger thief: Nawaz Sharif or Asif Zardari?

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Now that we know how these 2 have looted Pakistan, a question comes to mind: who is bigger thief among them? Nawaz Sharif or Asif Zardari?

Before I use to think Asif Zardari is the bigger thief. But now seeing the corruption of whole Sharif family feel like Asif Zardari is not worst. :moyo
 
Now that we know how these 2 have looted Pakistan, a question comes to mind: who is bigger thief among them? Nawaz Sharif or Asif Zardari?

Before I use to think Asif Zardari is the bigger thief. But now seeing the corruption of whole Sharif family feel like Asif Zardari is not worst. :moyo

Zardari and his PPP siphonined off 33 percent of the annual Sindh budget every single year while Larkana resembles a slum.

They're both as bad as each other.
 
If you want to know how corrupt PPP and the Zardari/Bhutto clan are just search on Youtube "Sindh ka Mahaz".... the journalist Wajahat Saeed I think goes to hospitals in Larkhana (home town of Bhuttos) and what he sees causes him to tear up. The Nooras are corrupt but I do not think you will find a single hospital in all of Punjab the kind of which were shown in that program.
 
Let's put it this way, Zardari was a chota mota chor compared to Nawaz and co. who were considered whole saler chors.
 
The question posed by the thread title is like asking which of two steaming piles of **** are smellier.
 
Both are as corrupt as each other but I hate Nawaz more. He is a munafiq and puts on a saintly act.
 
Zardari has an estimated $2 billion wealth.

Don’t think Nawaz has that much, probably not a billionaire.
 
Boots! No body can even point at them. They own tons of foundations, having tons of land out of poor country's tax money.
 
Boots! No body can even point at them. They own tons of foundations, having tons of land out of poor country's tax money.

Which tax money? Noone pays any tax in Pakistan. And as far as I remember 'boots' aren't the reason our politicians wasted the nation's budge on flats and apartments abroad.
 
Zardari has an estimated $2 billion wealth.

Don’t think Nawaz has that much, probably not a billionaire.

these are probably declared amounts, they both have well over $10 billion in black money stuffed away in offshore banks and trusts, which will be impossible to track down
 
Zardari has an estimated $2 billion wealth.

Don’t think Nawaz has that much, probably not a billionaire.

Just $2B ?
Or you forgot to write zero after 2 ?

Zardari is worth around 7B+ at least and Nawaz + Shehbaz around 10B+. And a dozen member of their teams each is worth around half a Billion $.
 
Boots! No body can even point at them. They own tons of foundations, having tons of land out of poor country's tax money.

Correct. Nawaz and Zardari are saints compared to the damage (in all forms) that the military has done.
 
There is one thief bigger than both combined (Establishment) so please include them in your discussion too as they have caused more harm to us and either Asif or Nawaz.
 
There is one thief bigger than both combined (Establishment) so please include them in your discussion too as they have caused more harm to us and either Asif or Nawaz.

Establishment did by bringing these 2 families to power. But please let us know what foreign accounts with black money the establishment has abroad I believe IK is promising 10% of the recoverd money to whoever reveals the crime. Many of us would be claiming the 10% reward.
 
You should ask Pakistan army who protected them both as long as their corruption benefited them.

Great stuff. Keep regurgitating the same conspiracy.

You know full well how big of a looting gang the Zardaris and Sharifs are.
 
There is one thief bigger than both combined (Establishment) so please include them in your discussion too as they have caused more harm to us and either Asif or Nawaz.

Do you ever provide your own opinion?

It seems you always jump on the backnof Mamoon's posts and parrot out the same rubbish.
 
One question. While both are thieves, Zardari, along with his late wife are notorious murderers as well. Does NS has any murder cases against him?
 
One question. While both are thieves, Zardari, along with his late wife are notorious murderers as well. Does NS has any murder cases against him?

They controlled Punjab police for 30-40 years and Punjab police is famous for its extra judicial killings so as more things come out I would not be surprised if murder cases are filed against them in the future. Most of the cases currently going on against Pmln and PPP are cases that they made against each other. It would be interesting to see if Pti is able to clean out or willing to clean out all the government departments and what they unearth.
 
One question. While both are thieves, Zardari, along with his late wife are notorious murderers as well. Does NS has any murder cases against him?

Nawaz's right hand man ran the city my father is from, you should see the open terror and corruption under him. The place he live(s)(ed) at was a mansion you'd struggle to find anywhere in Europe. He had blocked/diverted any roads near him. The recent case of the leaked video also includes Nawaz's right hand man, who openly boasts Nawaz saved him from 5 murder cases that he was guilty off. Also the model town killings under PMLN, where 14 people including pregnant women were killed. Videos/pictures are all over the internet. My own relatives have suffered horrible crime in Punjab and when the last time they went to the Police commissioner (personally appointed by Shehbaz Sharif) they were told and I am quoting: 'so what, crime happens, atleast they didn't take your daughters'.

I am not sure how things are in India, but if you were Pakistani you'd never elect these killers and looters.
 
I think Sharif family has looted Pakistan lot more than Asif Zardari
 
I think Sharif family has looted Pakistan lot more than Asif Zardari

Probably about the same- remember its not just what they looted, its what they allowed their cronies to steal, which is probably double what they themselves have stolen.
 
I hate Zardari more coz of the way he appears with that irritating smile of his. Nawaz now in prison and looking so weak has somewhat satisfied my anger towards him. The wealthier Zardari does not ever show an ounce of regret that makes me hate him even more.
 
Probably about the same- remember its not just what they looted, its what they allowed their cronies to steal, which is probably double what they themselves have stolen.
if we include cronies then its too broad a definition; better to compare families Sharif vs Zardari
 
Yeah these innocent pawns were forced to loot and plunder, amass wealth abroad and acquire properties.

No, but their wrongdoings were kept hidden till they became disposable, just like IK being portrayed as innocent honest person these days. We all are going to be fooled and they're going to keep building up their empire with more toys and lands.
 
No, but their wrongdoings were kept hidden till they became disposable, just like IK being portrayed as innocent honest person these days. We all are going to be fooled and they're going to keep building up their empire with more toys and lands.

You seem have to zero knowledge of ground realities if you think IK is being "portrayed as innocent and honest person". There is nothing to portray when it is the reality. First go and educate yourself and then talk.
 
No, but their wrongdoings were kept hidden till they became disposable, just like IK being portrayed as innocent honest person these days. We all are going to be fooled and they're going to keep building up their empire with more toys and lands.

If IK steals money off a poor country then he deserves to go to jail. Why should anyone be above the law?
 
When Establishment is done with IK and PTI then he will be removed in the same way. Purani sharab nayi botal mein daalkar nayi nahin ban jaati.

What? you mean he will lose an election. It will be a world first, a politican loses an election
 
When Establishment is done with IK and PTI then he will be removed in the same way. Purani sharab nayi botal mein daalkar nayi nahin ban jaati.

Noora logic and I have come across it frequently in recent days.

So establishment was done with PPP in 1990 and removed PPP. But in 1992-93 establishment got in love with same PPP again. And once more in 2008.
Est. was done with PMLn in 92-93 but got in love with them in 1996 and again in 2013.

Another implication of Noora Logic is that Establishment can engineer elections but only for National assembly and can't do the same in Provincial Elections. Because when Est. was not in love with PPP, they somehow let PPP win Provincial Elections for Sindh. And vice versa for PMLn in Punjab when Est. was against PMLn.

Establishment na hoi mazaq ho gaya.
 
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Noora logic and I have come across it frequently in recent days.

So establishment was done with PPP in 1990 and removed PPP. But in 1992-93 establishment got in love with same PPP again. And once more in 2008.
Est. was done with PMLn in 92-93 but got in love with them in 1996 and again in 2013.

Another implication of Noora Logic is that Establishment can engineer elections but only for National assembly and can't do the same in Provincial Elections. Because when Est. was not in love with PPP, they somehow let PPP win Provincial Elections for Sindh. And vice versa for PMLn in Punjab when Est. was against PMLn.

Establishment na hoi mazaq ho gaya.

Estab was so weak they were unable to win more seats for their laada and was unable to stop PMLN for getting many NA and PP seats in Punjab. Any idea what happened to the "TLP and Jeep being estab parties and will endup with 40-50 seats" theory?
 
One question. While both are thieves, Zardari, along with his late wife are notorious murderers as well. Does NS has any murder cases against him?

I personally know people who escaped from factories of Ittefaq Group 3-4 decades ago. It was so terrifying that only escape was fleeing away from Pakistan. I met with them in a Gulf countary. One of them was very close to me.This was in mid 90s, prior to inception of PTI. And stories they told me were scary stories.
 
PPP President Asif Ali Zardari apologised to PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz on Tuesday during a meeting of the Pakistan Democratic Movement, sources told Geo News.

The meeting of the opposition alliance had been convened to discuss the contentious issue of mass resignations from assemblies. During the meeting, Zardari spoke at length to PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif via videoconferencing and urged him to return to Pakistan if he is ready to wage a war against the government.

According to PPP sources, Zardari later apologised to Maryam, to which Maryam responded by saying: "It was never my intent to have you apologise. I merely considered myself a daughter to you and complained like Bakhtawar or Aseefa would."

'How can he return?'
Maryam had said that her father's "life is in danger" and questioned how he can return under the circumstances.

She had asked: "Does Zardari sahab guarantee that my father's life will not be in danger in Pakistan?"

Maryam then reportedly said that she is in Pakistan "of her own accord".

"Just like you are on video link, so is Mian sahab," she added.

She said that Nawaz's life is "threatened under NAB's custody" and that he had had "two heart attacks while in jail".

The PML-N vice president, according to sources, said that her party, despite being the "largest in Pakistan" had supported PDM. She said PML-N had followed all decisions made by the platform and even aided in their implementation.

"The entire PML-N voted for Yousuf Raza Gillani (in the Senate elections)," Maryam said.

She said that when PPP expressed their opposition to resignations, PML-N supported them to avoid any differences in opinion.

Maryam said she had witnessed her father going to 150 appearances before National Accountability Bureau and recalled how she had been arrested in front of her father.

"My father left my mother on her death bed and came back to Pakistan," she added.

Maryam later said that they must let bygones be bygones and bury the matter.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/340068-za...aryam-over-remarks-about-nawaz-in-pdm-meeting
 
PPP President Asif Ali Zardari apologised to PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz on Tuesday during a meeting of the Pakistan Democratic Movement, sources told Geo News.

The meeting of the opposition alliance had been convened to discuss the contentious issue of mass resignations from assemblies. During the meeting, Zardari spoke at length to PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif via videoconferencing and urged him to return to Pakistan if he is ready to wage a war against the government.

According to PPP sources, Zardari later apologised to Maryam, to which Maryam responded by saying: "It was never my intent to have you apologise. I merely considered myself a daughter to you and complained like Bakhtawar or Aseefa would."

'How can he return?'
Maryam had said that her father's "life is in danger" and questioned how he can return under the circumstances.

She had asked: "Does Zardari sahab guarantee that my father's life will not be in danger in Pakistan?"

Maryam then reportedly said that she is in Pakistan "of her own accord".

"Just like you are on video link, so is Mian sahab," she added.

She said that Nawaz's life is "threatened under NAB's custody" and that he had had "two heart attacks while in jail".

The PML-N vice president, according to sources, said that her party, despite being the "largest in Pakistan" had supported PDM. She said PML-N had followed all decisions made by the platform and even aided in their implementation.

"The entire PML-N voted for Yousuf Raza Gillani (in the Senate elections)," Maryam said.

She said that when PPP expressed their opposition to resignations, PML-N supported them to avoid any differences in opinion.

Maryam said she had witnessed her father going to 150 appearances before National Accountability Bureau and recalled how she had been arrested in front of her father.

"My father left my mother on her death bed and came back to Pakistan," she added.

Maryam later said that they must let bygones be bygones and bury the matter.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/340068-za...aryam-over-remarks-about-nawaz-in-pdm-meeting

AZ humiliated the Nooras and this story from Geo will almost certainly be fake. Zardari has waited 30 years to take revenge on NS.
 
Zardari used Sharif like a condom. Disposed of him when he was no longer needed
 
Zardari and his family single handedly looted Pakistan and didn;t have to share much with others . Others in their gang have been kind of low level thieves.

Sharifs have many top notched and very talented and brutal thieves and looters in their big gang like Ishaq Dar and many other. Collectively they looted more money and caused more damage to their God given property , some call it Pakistan.
 
Both are along with their followers who worship them, such as [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
I think Zardari has harmed this nation more than all Shareefs combined.

Both are world's elite thieves tho.

Cancer of Pakistani society. Repugnant individuals and their bloodline is crooked.
 
If you're gonna be corrupt then be a Zardari, he doesn't go crying asking for sympathy or mercy. The guy is a true gangster, he is the Godfather of Pakistani politics. Whereas NS is a little chicken in comparison. Zardari stands his ground and deals with whatever is thrown at him, gotta admire his haramipan.
 
Both should open an international university to teach corruption there , spread the knowledge.
 
Both had so much power in which they could have changed the lives of millions for the better, instead they will die with billions in their bank but little to their credit.
 
Gotta respect Zardari, he has effectively called Nawaz Sharif a coward
 
Both are along with their followers who worship them, such as [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Corruption is everywhere in Pakistan. PTI is full of corruption as well and their supporters, including the overseas contingent who show fake love for Pakistan over the Internet and make a billion excuses when you ask them to return, are supporters of corruption as well.

Pakistan needs to move on from this corruption mantra because it can never be eliminated in a third world country. It is the oil that keeps the machinery moving. Without bribes and kickbacks nothing will get done in Pakistan.

We need to look at India and even Bangladesh who have left Pakistan behind in spite of rampant corruption. Pakistan needs to focus on building competencies and modernizing its industries which are achievable in spite of corruption.

The most important goal for Pakistan is to get the military out of the political economy. They are running a business empire worth billions and they are not subjected to any checks and balances. The level of corruption done by military generals is far greater than what the general public is aware of simply because the judiciary and the politicians do not have the power to hold them accountable.
 
Corruption is everywhere in Pakistan. PTI is full of corruption as well and their supporters, including the overseas contingent who show fake love for Pakistan over the Internet and make a billion excuses when you ask them to return, are supporters of corruption as well.

Pakistan needs to move on from this corruption mantra because it can never be eliminated in a third world country. It is the oil that keeps the machinery moving. Without bribes and kickbacks nothing will get done in Pakistan.

We need to look at India and even Bangladesh who have left Pakistan behind in spite of rampant corruption. Pakistan needs to focus on building competencies and modernizing its industries which are achievable in spite of corruption.

The most important goal for Pakistan is to get the military out of the political economy. They are running a business empire worth billions and they are not subjected to any checks and balances. The level of corruption done by military generals is far greater than what the general public is aware of simply because the judiciary and the politicians do not have the power to hold them accountable.

The overseas contingent, majority of them are just like common people in Pakistan, hardworking with families and ties to Pakistan and I still maintain they are more Pakistanis than some nut jobs and traitors like you Mamoon. You think overseas Pakistanis such as [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] and [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] show fake love? Grow up!

Corruption is there in PTI too, 100% agreed, but I refuse to believe that majority of them are corrupt, including their leader Imran Khan. He is honest and is not from the political family elite of Pakistan unlike Sharifs and Zardaris. He is an outsider and that what bothers a lot of Politicians. Atleast he doesn't have billions of tax payers money stored in offshore accounts. Musharraf left the country in a better economic state than the 90s Bhutto-Sharif era, and look what your quaid zardari and sharif did afterwards, "destroyed Pakistan" is an understatement.

One thing I agree is that India and BD left Pakistan behind, thanks to your quad's corruption. India BD has trade surplus, they export more than they import. You can google the data, but just look since 2008, our exports have declined, until just last year. Now who is to blame for that? If you think from an open mind, you will know.

Military indeed was the issue in the political circle. Can you provide a good evidence that they're in political circle right now? I have been following Pakistan politics for the last 40 years, and this is the first time I am seeing Military being neutral and out of political circle. So if you don't have the evidence that they're in the political circle now, it is better not to spread lies and misinformation.
 
The overseas contingent, majority of them are just like common people in Pakistan, hardworking with families and ties to Pakistan and I still maintain they are more Pakistanis than some nut jobs and traitors like you Mamoon. You think overseas Pakistanis such as [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] and [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] show fake love? Grow up!

Corruption is there in PTI too, 100% agreed, but I refuse to believe that majority of them are corrupt, including their leader Imran Khan. He is honest and is not from the political family elite of Pakistan unlike Sharifs and Zardaris. He is an outsider and that what bothers a lot of Politicians. Atleast he doesn't have billions of tax payers money stored in offshore accounts. Musharraf left the country in a better economic state than the 90s Bhutto-Sharif era, and look what your quaid zardari and sharif did afterwards, "destroyed Pakistan" is an understatement.

One thing I agree is that India and BD left Pakistan behind, thanks to your quad's corruption. India BD has trade surplus, they export more than they import. You can google the data, but just look since 2008, our exports have declined, until just last year. Now who is to blame for that? If you think from an open mind, you will know.

Military indeed was the issue in the political circle. Can you provide a good evidence that they're in political circle right now? I have been following Pakistan politics for the last 40 years, and this is the first time I am seeing Military being neutral and out of political circle. So if you don't have the evidence that they're in the political circle now, it is better not to spread lies and misinformation.

There is no need to go crying to the mods by tagging them. We are not in grade 2.

Military dictators always leave the country in a better economic state because of playing a mercenary role for the U.S.

Ayub, Zia and Musharraf all sold themselves to the U.S. during the Cold War and WoT in exchange of U.S. aid. It provided an artificial boost to our economy but it is not a sustainable model.

For sustainable economic growth and development, Pakistan needs to get the military out of the political economy. Pakistan needs to look at what India have done in the last 70+ years and learn from them.

As far as the honesty of Imran is concerned, if he is the self-proclaimed saint that he and his supporters claim to be, he would not be running away from his foreign funding case for 5+ years and his party would not be demanding secrecy in investigations.

If you have nothing to hide and have no skeletons in the closet, you do not run away and you publicize the investigations because it is another opportunity to prove your honesty.

If Imran was honest, he would not be using the sugar mafia head and certified fraud like Jahangir Tareen as the chief financier of his election campaign.

Naya Pakistan is built on black money of the various mafias. We keep hearing about a new mafia every 6 months and then we find out that these mafia leaders are Imran’s buddies.

The military will always be involved in Pakistan politics. They can never be neutral because it goes against the strategic culture of Pakistan. The only difference is that post Musharraf, they have changed their strategy and are running the show from behind the curtains.

They supported Nawaz in 2013 and they ditched him when he started to interfere with the India policy and became “Modi ka yaar”. The Panama Leaks was just a convenient smokescreen; Nawaz’s time was up anyway because he was a threat to Pakistan’s foreign policy which is determined by the military leadership.

Imran is their latest pawn and if they feel that Imran is now a threat to their interests, they will chuck him out. All these foreign funding cases and other allegations against him will be used against him when the time is right.

Pakistan’s strategic culture centers around keeping the military the most powerful and influential institution in the country. As a result, they are deeply involved not only in politics but also in the economy.

The Pakistan PM and the COAS do not have the same relationship that the Indian PM and COAS do. In Pakistan, the PM is subservient to the COAS.

Look at what happened in 2019 when King Bajwa was desperate to hold onto his throne and refused to retire with dignity. The constitution was amended to extend his tenure when there was no valid justification for it. Not only in Imran but other parties were also willing to sign on the amendment act because they know which side of the toast they need to butter.

PMLN agreed to sign on the act because Bajwa made a deal with them that allowed Nawaz to leave jail and go to London, leaving Imran humiliated.

While Imran was mocking Nawaz and asking his supporters if he should allow him an air-conditioner in his prison cell, Bajwa was making a deal behind Imran’s back and made Imran look weak and powerless.

Bajwa had no regard for the interests and the image of the government and the promises it made to the public regarding keeping Nawaz and co. in jail. They only thing he cared about is power.

The ex-COAS Raheel Sharif is now working for the Saudi government. Is this even constitutional? How is it justified to have a former COAS work for a foreign country? The COAS has state secrets and access to sensitive information that even the PM does not have.

After doing record corruption during his tenure, Raheel Sharif has ended up in KSA because of his endless greed for money, and there is no one to hold him accountable or question him.

It is a myth that the military is not involved in politics anymore. It is simply a part of their propaganda that has shaped the narrative of Pakistan since the death of Quaid-e-Azam which created a power vaccum that was filled by the military establishment.

Whenever the military and the federal government appear to be on the “same page”, the page number is decided by the military.

Pakistan’s biggest problem has never been corruption; it is the hegemony of the military establishment. They have and continue to hold the country back from prosperity and economic growth.
 
India and BD didn't have Bhuttos/Zardaris/Shareefs/other corrupt families, businessmen, bureaucrats, generals and other **** stealing with both hands.

It's very funny that people expect Pak to rise economically but "move on from corruption mantra" :yk
 
There is no need to go crying to the mods by tagging them. We are not in grade 2.

Military dictators always leave the country in a better economic state because of playing a mercenary role for the U.S.

Ayub, Zia and Musharraf all sold themselves to the U.S. during the Cold War and WoT in exchange of U.S. aid. It provided an artificial boost to our economy but it is not a sustainable model.


Pakistan’s biggest problem has never been corruption; it is the hegemony of the military establishment. They have and continue to hold the country back from prosperity and economic growth.

Also you are stating corruption is not an issue. Which world are you living in. Your friends zardari and sharif stashed so much money. There is proof for that, articles, and documentaries made on it. Books written on their corruption. Yet you fail to provide a single proof that military is involved in politics presently in Pakistan. Seems like you and your family have stashed money overseas as well just like your zardari and sharif masters. It would be beneficial if you go lick their boots everyday rather than showing up with your pathetic mentality here.
 
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ISLAMABAD: The differences between two major Opposition parties PML-N and PPP have intensified further as former prime minister Nawaz Sharif refused to talk to former president Asif Ali Zardari after his hard-hitting address in the PDM head of parties closed-door meeting last week.

According to a news report published in The News, PDM chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman is trying hard for a reconciliation between the two as he spoke with both leaders separately a day after the meeting.

During the meeting, the PPP leader refused to submit resignations from assemblies and participate in the long march against the government.

According to sources, the reason for the tension between the parties is the issue of resignation from the assemblies and sit-ins after a long march.

In addition, a series of recent events also aggravated the relationship between the two parties.

One event includes the nomination of the leader of Opposition in the Senate and support for the PML-N candidate on Karachi's NA-249 seat where the PML-N has fielded Miftah Ismail as its candidate under a previous understanding between the PDM member parties.

The PPP has also designated its candidate in the contest by defying the understanding.

Following the development, former prime minister and senior vice president of the PML-N, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, visited Zardari House on Saturday to muster the support of the PPP for Miftah and had a meeting with the PPP Chairperson Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.

The sources said that the PPP leader didn’t give assurances to the visiting PML-N leader for the Karachi polls. Instead, he put it off on the pretext of consulting the party before taking any decision.

The sources revealed that Abbasi has reported the matter to party head Nawaz Sharif and sought his guidance.

Fazl could dash to Karachi for a meeting with the PPP leaders this week provided he receives a positive signal from there, the sources added.

He will make yet another attempt for the restoration of mutual confidence between PML-N and PPP stalwarts.

The PDM chief will try to have a trilateral conference with Nawaz Sharif and Asif Ali Zardari while in Karachi, the sources added.

GEO
 
The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) has opposed former president Asif Ali Zardari’s request for transfer of his graft trials from accountability courts in Islamabad to a similar courts in Karachi in view of his illness.

One of the NAB’s directors general has submitted a 13-page statement concise in the Supreme Court in response to Zardari’s plea. The statement said accountability courts in Islamabad have already indicted the PPP leader and that NAB is present witnesses before the courts without any delay.

NAB said the accused has already been exempted from personal appearance and a “mere convenience of accused persons cannot be termed as a valid and cogent reason or grounds for transfer of references from Islamabad to Karachi”.

"Additionally it is the defence side which is seeking adjournments from the trial court in order to delay the proceedings and not even a single adjournment has been sought by NAB,” it added.

NAB, however, clarified that it will have no objection if the SC orders the accountability courts to conclude the trials in a particular timeframe. The accused/defence counsel [may] also be directed not to seek any unnecessary adjournment during the trial proceedings,” it added.

t stated that due to its successful inquiries and investigations, a number of accused persons have struck a plea bargain deal or sought pardon and agreed to surrender the illegal benefits availed by them either in the form of cash or land illegally allotted to them.

NAB said investigations/trials in the fake accounts case were transferred from Karachi to Islamabad on the Supreme Court’s direction. “Zardari’s review petition has been already rejected and the matter has attained finality; therefore, the application is not maintainable and same is liable to dismissed.”

Regarding the question of Zardari’s illness, NAB said he has the legal right to get exemption from the court and the Supreme Court is not the proper forum to redress his grievances. There is a great difference between grant of bail and transfer of proceedings, it added.

According to NAB, Zardari is not hospitalized anymore and was in Islamabad in connection with the Senate elections therefore he is fully fit to travel as he is participating in active political activities.

The statement said section 16 of the National Accountability Ordinance (NAO) is statutory enactment and cannot be measured on a threshold of Article 25 of the Constitution alone.

NAB also highlighted reasons as why the apex court had ordered to transfer fake accounts cases from Karachi to Islamabad. A three-judge bench of the apex court led by Justice Umar Ata Bandial is hearing Zardari’s plea regarding transfer of these cases from Islamabad to Karachi.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2304473/nab-opposes-zardaris-trial-transfer-plea
 
An accountability court in Islamabad on Monday summoned former president Asif Ali Zardari and other co-accused in the money laundering reference on the next hearing scheduled for June 29.

The order was released by Judge Asghar Ali of the court and the prosecutor for the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) also appeared before the court during the day's proceedings.

Earlier, on June 10, NAB opposed Zardari’s request for the transfer of his graft trials from accountability courts in Islamabad to a similar courts in Karachi in view of his illness.

One of the NAB’s directors general submitted a 13-page statement in the Supreme Court in response to the plea. The statement maintained that the accountability courts in Islamabad had already indicted the PPP leader and that NAB was presenting witnesses before the courts without any delay.

Read Asif Ali Zardari granted permanent bail in fake accounts case

NAB said the accused had already been exempted from personal appearance and a “mere convenience of accused persons cannot be termed a valid and cogent reason or grounds for transfer of references from Islamabad to Karachi”.

NAB, however, clarified it would have no objection if the court orders accountability courts to conclude the trials within a particular timeframe. "The defence counsel [may] also be directed not to seek any unnecessary adjournment during the trial proceedings,” it added.

Zardari is facing multiple corruption cases that stem from a mega-money laundering scandal, which came to the limelight in 2018.

In September, an accountability court in Islamabad indicted the former president, his sister Faryal Talpur and other accused in the case in which around Rs35 billion were transferred through 29 fake accounts.
 
Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry on Saturday lashed out at former premier Nawaz Sharif saying the PML-N president was free to go anywhere provided he returned the “looted wealth”.

Addressing a press conference at Skardu Press Club, the information minister maintained that the government wanted to bring the accountability process to a logical conclusion.

“We do not want to keep Nawaz Sharif in jail. He can go anywhere provided he returns the looted wealth.”

Fawad regretted over the dilapidated condition of road infrastructure in Gilgit-Baltistan (G-B) saying the previous PML-N government did “nothing” for its rehabilitation despite being in power for a long period of time.

To a question, he said the courts had convicted Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz in two corruption cases while proceedings against Shehbaz Sharif were in progress.

Nawaz Sharif left for London in November 2019 for medical treatment after he was released on bail from a seven-year sentence in Al-Azizia reference.

In December last, the Islamabad High Court declared the PML-N supremo a proclaimed offender in Avenfield properties and Al-Azizia cases and issued show-cause notices to his guarantors.

Speaking about the development of G-B, Fawad said the federal government allocated a “record” share in the next budget for the region as Prime Minister Imran Khan desired its uplift on par with other parts of the country.

He said the PTI after coming to power in the G-B had announced a development package worth Rs300 billion for the socio-economic development of the area.

“The amount, which will be spent in the next five years, will bring significant improvement in the infrastructure of Gilgit-Baltistan and boost economic activities through the promotion of tourism.”

He said the situation in G-B would look like Karachi in the next eight to 10 years if the development work in the region is carried out without proper planning.

He said the completion of CPEC would mark a new era of development and prosperity in G-B as it was situated at critical route of the multi-billion-dollar project.

To another query, he said the electronic voting machines were being developed in the country to ensure transparency and fast compilation of election results, adding the gadgets would also be used in elections of the Parliamentary Reporters Association, press clubs and bar associations.
 
Pakistan needs to move on from this corruption mantra because it can never be eliminated in a third world country. It is the oil that keeps the machinery moving. Without bribes and kickbacks nothing will get done in Pakistan.

I think this underestimates the corrosive impact of corruption and the very detrimental effects it has on levels of trust in political institutions.

But what I want to emphasise is that we also need to distinguish between different types of corruption as not all forms of corruption have the same impact on the economy. There is fascinating book by Yuen Yuen Ang - China’s Gilded Age. In her work, she seeks to explain the co-existence in China of vast corruption on one hand and incredible economic growth on the other.

She classifies corruption into four categories. She identifies two types of corruption that involves theft, that are fundamentally non-transactional in nature. Then first is ‘petty theft’ that involves lower level state officials who steal or extort funds. Secondly, there is ‘grand theft’ which involves the embezzlement of significant monies by political elites. Both of these types of corruption are akin, in her analogy to ‘toxic drugs’ - they are economically harmful with no really redeeming aspects.

The other two types of corruption involve an element of exchange; they are transactional in nature. ’Speed money’ involves bribes to lower level bureaucrats to circumvent laws and regulations or to speed things up. This for Ang is not as damaging as straight-out theft, but nevertheless is still a burden, an additional cost for smaller businesses. So they are in her analogy ‘painkillers’ - lessening pain but not providing health benefits.

The last type involves ‘access money’ involves political elites as decision-makers providing lucrative access to privileges in exchange for funds or assets. Access money can include both illegal forms - bribery and kickbacks - as well as legal or at least ambiguous forms -“cultivating political connections, campaign finance, “revolving door” practices (moving between leadership posts in private and public sectors), and influence peddling.” Of the forms of corruption, this is the only one that she sees as growth enhancing. These are ‘steroids’ - they encourage economic activity but come with serious side effects, distorting allocation of resources and potentially worsening inequality.

In China ‘access money’, according to her is the dominant type of corruption in China, while other types of corruption have been increasingly reined in.

It is important to stress that she is not defending any type of corruption. Indeed, she states that “corruption is never good.” However, her point is that “not all forms of corruption are equally bad for the economy, nor do they cause the same kind of harm."
 
ISLAMABAD: Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry Friday said the leadership of Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) kept reciting the mantra of upholding democratic norms round the clock but ironically they were least bothered about observing democratic principles in Sindh.

“If no observance of democratic principles was done in any province, it was Sindh,” he tweeted. In Sindh - the dictatorship of Zardari family is in force, as after usurping the Public Accounts Committee, now the Leader of the Opposition in the province has also been barred from speaking on the budget which shows the real color of ‘Zardari democracy’, “ he said.

Meanwhile, talking to Ambassador of Japan Kuninori Matsuda here, Fawad stressed early implementation of Pak-Japan joint projects of modernization and technical upgradation of Pakistan Television Corporation (PTV) and Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation (PBC).

The minister said both the countries enjoyed a vibrant all round six-decade partnership nurtured by successive generations of top echelons of leadership.

"We grew up while using Japanese technology and products globally known for their first class quality and durability,” he said. The minister said the state-run PTV, Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation (PBC) and Associated Press of Pakistan (APP) were being transformed to meet contemporary requirements in a fast changing world.

The government is determined to turn the APP into a premium digital news agency on the pattern of well-known leading international news agencies, he added. Some 11 modern studios will be established in different major cities of the country with the aim to create and strengthen a state of the art and flourishing video news service of APP.

The minister also informed the ambassador regarding the government’s initiative to establish a Media Technology University and said Japan’s cooperation to extend support to train human resource will be vital in terms of providing technical know-how.

Fawad also emphasized the need for cooperation between the two countries in the realm of gaming and animation, as it could add another feature to the ever strengthening bilateral economic relations.

He also proposed joint ventures with Japan in the fields of film, drama, podcast and joint productions. The ambassador and the minister discussed in detail the status of ongoing joint initiatives between Pakistan and Japan in the avenues of media and information. Kuninori Matsuda expressed Japan’s keenness for collaboration in the areas of gaming and animation.
 
Former president Asif Zardari admitted to Karachi hospital

Zardari fell ill due to 'exertion from appearing in court and budget session', say sources in Bilawal House.

ISLAMABAD/ KARACHI:
Former president and Co-Chairperson Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Asif Ali Zardari has reportedly been admitted to a private hospital in Karachi on the advice of his doctors, said sources in the Bilawal House on Friday.

The sources added that the former president 'fell ill due to the exertion and exhaustion from travelling for court appearances and the budget session'.

In view of his father’s illness, PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari has arrived in Karachi from Islamabad.

The former president’s daughter Bakhtawar Bhutto Zardari, along with her husband, also arrived in Karachi from Dubai.

Last year in October, Zardari was shifted to an intensive care unit of a private hospital in Clifton as he was reportedly suffering from a chest infection and his blood sugar level had fallen to an alarming level.

The PPP co-chairperson’s personal physician Dr Asim Hussian had maintained that the former president was not feeling well and a team of health experts was constantly monitoring him and carrying out his medical tests.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2308459/former-president-asif-zardari-admitted-to-karachi-hospital
 
Fawad says NAB has so far recovered Rs33bn in Zardari fake accounts case

Fawad Chaudhry says the "corruption" of Rs5,000 billion as detected in the fake accounts case also indicates how ruthlessly the rulers have looted Sindh and Pakistan.

Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry on Saturday said the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) had so far recovered Rs33 billion in the fake accounts case involving former president Asif Ali Zardari, adding that the actual financial irregularities in the case amounted to around Rs5,000bn.

In a veiled criticism at the provincial government of Sindh and the PPP leadership, the minister tweeted that "one can imagine the level of corruption in the country given recovery of Rs33bn, which is around $200 million, by NAB."

“This indicates how ruthlessly the rulers have looted Sindh and Pakistan,” he added.

This is not the first time that the federal minister has fired a broadside at the Sindh government for their alleged corruption. In his recent visit to Karachi, Chaudhry had accused the Sindh rulers and the top PPP leadership of misusing public funds to launder money abroad.

He had also advocated monitoring the use of public funds given by the federal government to Sindh through a "third party". He claimed money belonging to the Sindh government was being retrieved from Dubai, Canada and Europe.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1632969/fawad-says-nab-has-so-far-recovered-rs33bn-in-zardari-fake-accounts-case
 
The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) lodged another case against former president Asif Ali Zardari on Monday and sought his response on a New York property by July 24.

In the notice, the NAB told the Pakistan People's Party co-chairman that his apartment in Manhattan, New York had not been declared in Pakistan.

Prima facie, no legal money was sent [abroad] for [buying] the said apartment, the authority observed, seeking a response from Zardari as to how he arranged to buy the property.

Subsequently, the NAB asked the PPP leader to submit the details of his alleged apartment with the authority by July 24.

On the other hand, the former president has approached the Islamabad High Court (IHC) for a pre-arrest bail in the case.

Zardari submitted the plea through his counsel Farooq H Naek, making NAB chairman, DG Rawalpindi and the investigation officer as respondents in the case.

His medical report from the Ziauddin Hospital has also been enclosed with the plea.

In his plea, the PPP co-chair said that he required more time to submit his response with the NAB. He added that he was suffering from various ailments and is undergoing treatment.

He asked the court to grant him bail until a final decision into the case and declare the notice sent by NAB Investigation as illegal.

On July 3, Information and Broadcasting Minister Fawad Chaudhry said that NAB had recovered Rs33 billion in the fake accounts case involving the former president.

"With such a recovery, the volume of corruption in the country could be gauged easily as how the past rulers had looted the country and Sindh [in particular]," Fawad wrote on Twitter.

"The actual volume of corruption in the fake accounts case was whopping Rs5,000 billion," he added.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2308895/nab-lodges-another-case-against-asif-ali-zardari
 
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"The actual volume of corruption in the fake accounts case was whopping Rs5,000 billion," he added.

This is only what NAB is aware of.

In a country where generations of Pakistanis have been slaving themselves to Arabs (and sometimes to the Western countries) for miserable wages and have shared beds in small rooms or slept on roofs to save every last penny to send it back home... yet Shareef and Zardaris have lowered value of Pak Ruppee consistently. Just imagine how much money has been stolen by thieves. Numbers are mind-blowing.

The real damage might never be known
 
The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) lodged another case against former president Asif Ali Zardari on Monday and sought his response on a New York property by July 24.

In the notice, the NAB told the Pakistan People's Party co-chairman that his apartment in Manhattan, New York had not been declared in Pakistan.

Prima facie, no legal money was sent [abroad] for [buying] the said apartment, the authority observed, seeking a response from Zardari as to how he arranged to buy the property.

Subsequently, the NAB asked the PPP leader to submit the details of his alleged apartment with the authority by July 24.

On the other hand, the former president has approached the Islamabad High Court (IHC) for a pre-arrest bail in the case.

Zardari submitted the plea through his counsel Farooq H Naek, making NAB chairman, DG Rawalpindi and the investigation officer as respondents in the case.

His medical report from the Ziauddin Hospital has also been enclosed with the plea.

In his plea, the PPP co-chair said that he required more time to submit his response with the NAB. He added that he was suffering from various ailments and is undergoing treatment.

He asked the court to grant him bail until a final decision into the case and declare the notice sent by NAB Investigation as illegal.

On July 3, Information and Broadcasting Minister Fawad Chaudhry said that NAB had recovered Rs33 billion in the fake accounts case involving the former president.

"With such a recovery, the volume of corruption in the country could be gauged easily as how the past rulers had looted the country and Sindh [in particular]," Fawad wrote on Twitter.

"The actual volume of corruption in the fake accounts case was whopping Rs5,000 billion," he added.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2308895/nab-lodges-another-case-against-asif-ali-zardari

The crook falls ill every time he knows he is trouble. NAB and Judiciary are as crooked as AZ and NZ and that's why they are still out.
 
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2320482/zardari-moves-court-for-acquittal-in-toshakhana-reference

Former president Asif Ali Zardari on Thursday moved an accountability court for his acquittal in the Toshakhana (gift depository) reference.

In September 2020, an anti-graft court had indicted the former president along with ex-prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani in the reference.

Zardari had been accused by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) of illegally retaining expensive vehicles gifted by various foreign states and dignitaries instead of depositing them in the Toshakhana.

According to the anti-corruption body, Zardari retained the vehicles “against a nominal payment of 15% of their total value” through “dishonest and illegal means for personal benefit and interest”.

Today, the former president’s counsel Farooq H Naek filed a application under Section 265-K of the Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC)

The application states that the Zardari is "innocent and has been falsely implicated" in the reference on account of "political victimization".

"The applicant who has been made a victim of circumstances languished in jail for more than eight years without any fault on his part in innumerable cases ultimately resulting in acquittal in all the cases," the application further stated.

"It is evident from the record produced by the prosecution that its case, taken at its highest, would be insufficient for conviction of the applicant,” the application added. “The prosecution has failed to produce any tangible incriminating evidence against the applicant and hence it is evident that there is no probability of the applicant being convicted in the instant reference.”

The application also said that the allegations made against the PPP co-chairperson are false and there is "no ground for proceeding with his trial".

Counsel Naek further stated that the prosecution has failed to bring on record any evidence to show or substantiate that Zardari committed the offence of corruption or was involved in corrupt practices as defined in Section 9 of the National Accountability Ordinance 1999 (NAO 1999) and Anti-Money Laundering Act 2010.

"That a close reading of the charge along with the evidence that has come on record makes it absolutely clear that no case whatsoever has been spelt out against the applicant and indeed the applicant has not committed any offence as defined in NAO 1999 and Anti-Money Laundering Act 2010,” the application prayed.

“The presumption of innocence available to the applicant under the law stands fully reinforced and become irrefutable. Hence the applicant is innocent and has been falsely implicated in this case,” it concluded.
 
I think the better question is, who is a seasoned crook? "Pakka chore".

And Zardari clearly takes the cake. He knows how to play this game and not get caught.

Nawaz Shareef, an equally corrupt imbecile but also a Dumb Lalluu.
 
Army who need to be locked up.

Army is the only institution in Pakistan that ensured Pakistan is not divided into 10 pieces, something which endia, zArdari and nawaz supported. Glad we have our army to defend us from the enemies, both external and internal (including traitors like some found here).
 
Information and Broadcasting Minister Fawad Chaudhry on Thursday lashed out at the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) for linking its corruption in road infrastructure projects with the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), saying that “it is beyond comprehension”.

“As far as CPEC is concerned, I am unable to understand as to why the PML-N wanted to link China with its corruption. The corruption of Sharif family will be investigated at all costs as it has nothing to do with CPEC,” the minister said during the launching ceremony of a book written by sports analyst Dr Nauman Niaz.

The minister alleged that the PML-N leadership was trying to link China and state institutions with their corruption in the hope to get relief in the investigation being carried out in road construction projects during the era of the previous government.

They would never succeed in their plan, he said while accusing the PML-N of weaving a plot to hide behind institutions to escape accountability.

In this week, he added the government had decided to take action against those who were involved in the alleged corruption committed in the road infrastructure projects during the PML-N government.

The minister voiced hope that PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal and his party would avoid such a “negative attitude” towards CPEC, which was an initiative of national importance.

Iqbal should first decide who was running the affairs of the PML-N, Fawad said.

He (Iqbal) should first get a vote of trust from the PML-N and then ask others for a vote of confidence, the minister said while responding to a query.

Prime Minister Imran Khan not only enjoyed the confidence of the National Assembly but also of the entire nation that voted him into power, Fawad said, adding that the premier would continue to rule on the basis of the people’s trust in his leadership.

About the importance of cricket in Pakistan, he said the game was key to unite people in Pakistan from Karachi to Peshawar and the mountains of Gilgit-Baltistan to Gwadar’s ocean.

“Our hearts beat with [national] team and [its] players,” he said while recalling massive financial losses inflicted on the PTV sports channel and a ‘demoralising effect’ on the nation in the wake of the cancellation of cricket tours by New Zealand and England.

“We were in Dushanbe and the prime minister was about to deliver his speech when I was given a message that the Prime Minister be informed that New Zealand cricket team has called off the tour. At that point in time, I, [Foreign Minister] Shah Mahmood Qureshi and (National Security Adviser) Moeed Yusuf were unanimous that the prime minister should not be told the news until he concludes his speech, otherwise it will have its effect,” Fawad said while describing the impact of cricket in national affairs.

Lauding the efforts of Nauman Niaz for Pakistan’s cricket, the minister said that after serving the PCB, the author became a journalist and now was hosting the ‘Game on Hai’ show that had quite impressive viewership.

“The library you have created and the book you have written, I would like to thank you on that on behalf of our people,” he said.

The minister said the library had every collection that the cricketing world loved, including bats of the best players of the world and the balls that were used in the Aussies cricket series.

He announced an exhibition in future to promote the library and congratulated Niaz on such an initiative.

Meanwhile, Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Farrukh Habib also congratulated Niaz over the launching of his book that had preserved the history of cricket in itself.

PTV Managing Director Aamir Manzoor, ARY TV CEO Salman Iqbal, Chief Selector Muhammad Waseem, Rashid Latif, Umer Gul, Yasir Hameed, and Muhammad Akram also spoke.
 
An accountability court rejected former president Asif Ali Zardari’s plea for acquittal under the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Amendment Ordinance and summoned the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) co-chairman on October 28 for his indictment in Rs8 billion suspicious transaction case.

Zardari appeared in the court of Accountability judge Asghar Ali. During the hearing, Zardari’s lawyer Farooq H Naek filed the acquittal plea, saying that there was no case against his client after the NAB Amendment Ordinance.

Naek told the court that there was no charge of causing loss to the national kitty or the allegations of abuse of power or money laundering in this case. He added that Rs8 billion suspicious transaction in the case was a private deal, which no longer fell under NAB’s jurisdiction.

The NAB prosecutor said that if the court ordered, he will submit the reply. However, after hearing the preliminary arguments, the court reserved its ruling, which was announced later. The judge rejected the acquittal plea order for framing charges against the accused on October 28.

Later, Judge Asghar Ali took up the Toshakhana reference against Zardari and former prime minister Yousuf Raza Gilani. During the hearing NAB prosecutor Irfan Bhola sought time for filing reply to Zardari’s plea.

The court later recorded the statement of NAB witness Asim. The court also summoned next witness, Abdul Rashid, and directed NAB to file reply to Zardari’s plea before adjourning the hearing of the case until October 28.

Zardari also appeared in the court of Accountability Judge Muhammad Azam Khan for the hearing of money laundering and fake accounts case against him. The co-accused in the case, Faryal Talpur and Abdul Ghani Majeed were granted exemption from personal appearance in the court. The court adjourned the hearing till October 22 at the request of the defence counsel.

Later, talking to the media persons after the hearing, former president Zardari claimed that his party would form the next government in the country. When asked about the accountability process, Zardari said: "The process will continue till the country’s economy does not go down further.”
 
While taking a jibe at his political opponents, PM Imran said the Sharif family presented forged documents and tried to mislead the country’s top court through lies and an infamous “Qatari letter” in the Panama Papers case.

“If this [Panama] case had been in a British court, they [Sharif family] would have been imprisoned immediately. There is a huge difference between the justice system of the West and Pakistan,” the premier said, adding that the country can never prosper unless the powerful people are held accountable before the law.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/232553...RCMHZFeS1HVnpTSTdlOXdJV19VSmJRbzRROVktUFZYUlI
 
The Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) has started its legal proceedings to auction properties of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif in order to collect an £8m fine imposed by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) courts in various cases, the Express News reported on Monday.

According to reports, agricultural lands in the name of the PML-N supremo located in Jati Umrah in Lahore would be auctioned on November 19. A notice stating the same has also been pasted at Nawaz’s Jati Umrah residence.

Anyone can participate in the auction, whereas officials from the FBR, NAB Lahore and Rawalpindi have also been directed to join the process.

In June, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) rejected the pleas to halt the auction of former premier’s properties in Toshakhana (gift depository) reference and dismissed them as unmaintainable.

On April 22, an accountability court (AC) had ordered the auction of the PML-N supremo’s assets since he is absconding in the case. Later, three petitioners Aslam Uzair, Iqbal Barkat and Muhammad Arshad Malik challenged the AC’s decision.

Later in May, on the orders of the accountability court, the auction process of Nawaz’s 88 kanal and four marla land in Ferozepur town of Sheikhupura was completed.

The court ordered the Lahore and Sheikhupura deputy commissioners to sell Sharif’s immovable properties in their respective jurisdictions and deposit their proceeds within 60 days after receiving the order.

Three people made their bids for the land. Chaudhry Muhammad Botha made the highest bid of Rs11 million per acre. The bidders were directed to deposit Rs1 million as security.

According to the bid, the value of the entire land is more than Rs110 million.
 
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2333153/zardaris-remarks-about-nawaz-sharif-unfortunate-shehbaz-sharif

Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Shehbaz Sharif criticised on Thursday former president Asif Ali Zardari's remarks about former premier Nawaz Sharif were unfortunate.

The PML-N leader's remarks came on Twitter after the former president had warned on December 6 that some foreign elements were conspiring to disintegrate Pakistan.

"The world wants to break Pakistan," Zardari said during a ceremony, assuring the workers that the PPP would fight against everybody for the sake of the country.

"We want to make Pakistan a successful country for generations to come," he said, adding that a person who was not ready to breathe his last in Pakistan does not have a stake in the decision of the country.

"We belong to this land and we will die here," he reiterated.

Responding to the remarks, Shehbaz said that "Mian Sahib’s unwavering commitment to Pakistan has always been unquestionable. Zardari sb knows the conditions in which MNS had to go abroad."

The Opposition leader urged that political leaders should refrain from such statements and work for the greater good of the country.
 
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