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I just find it interesting that you mentioned this individual when I mentioned criminal in jail - or is your assertion that there is only one person in jail in Pak, Rishwat?

I knew that was who you were referring to. Are you going to tell me "no it was someone else" now? You seem more interested in playing word games than getting to the crux of the matter which doesn''t really create a great impression. You didn't answer where you live either, which considering you were bashing people commenting from Britain, you should really clarify.
 
I knew that was who you were referring to. Are you going to tell me "no it was someone else" now? You seem more interested in playing word games than getting to the crux of the matter which doesn''t really create a great impression. You didn't answer where you live either, which considering you were bashing people commenting from Britain, you should really clarify.
I never said or insinuated anything, you are the one taking names, Rishwat. Is there something you want to tell us?
 
Are you willing to take up the challenge. Yes or no
I already told you - both options are possible. Even if you prove it is "true", fulfilling a burden of proof which is beyond your capacity, you can absolutely not prove that this was made with his own free will with no threats made against this person or his near and dear ones. In another scenario, if you claim he's a crook then nothing that comes from his mouth should matter.
 
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I already told you - both options are possible. Even if you prove it is "true", fulfilling a burden of proof which is beyond your capacity, you can absolutely not prove that this was made with his own free will with no threats made against this person or his near and dear ones. In another scenario, if you claim he's a crook then nothing that comes from his mouth should matter. In any scenario, you are cooked Bewal69.
@Bewal Express @Cpt. Rishwat @emranabbas @Rana @IMMY69 let's settle it once and for all here. Bewal, I take it you don't want to take the challenge. That is fine. I am here to discuss respectfully so there is no shame. I will let it go and not remind you after this post if that is what you wish.
 
@Bewal Express @Cpt. Rishwat @emranabbas @Rana @IMMY69 let's settle it once and for all here. Bewal, I take it you don't want to take the challenge. That is fine. I am here to discuss respectfully so there is no shame. I will let it go and not remind you after this post if that is what you wish.
Take up the challenge. I will post the original and back it up. Are you man enough. You can confer with yourself( Rana) and come back to me. I am man of my word.
 
I never said or insinuated anything, you are the one taking names, Rishwat. Is there something you want to tell us?

Yes. You are wasting my time, and probably a hypocrite who doesn't live in Pakistan but likes to bash other people for commenting from outside of Pakistan.
 
@Bewal Express @Cpt. Rishwat @emranabbas @Rana @IMMY69 let's settle it once and for all here. Bewal, I take it you don't want to take the challenge. That is fine. I am here to discuss respectfully so there is no shame. I will let it go and not remind you after this post if that is what you wish.
Good luck, mate. No matter how valid or well-reasoned your argument is, they won’t engage in a meaningful discussion. Instead, they’ll keep diverting the conversation, repeating the same running away from the core discussion, and rambling on with incoherent nonsense just to avoid admitting they’re wrong.

Minus @Cpt. Rishwat
 
@topspin

I love how these mans keep involving me in this beef as if they want me to return like Undertaker for Wrestlemania season :ROFLMAO:
 
Summarizing for everyone:

@Bewal Express needs to prove:

1/ Video itself (so-called) is authentic and not tampered with - will need to come up with meta data from actual device it was shot from and establish a chain of custody at the very least
2/ Individual in so-called video was not coerced and said everything of his own free will
3/ why he believes these specific words of a person he calls a crook

If you can suitably prove and justify all 3 points, we can discuss further. If not, you don't deserve any more of my time.
 
Summarizing for everyone:

@Bewal Express needs to prove:

1/ Video itself (so-called) is authentic and not tampered with - will need to come up with meta data from actual device it was shot from and establish a chain of custody at the very least
2/ Individual in so-called video was not coerced and said everything of his own free will
3/ why he believes these specific words of a person he calls a crook

If you can suitably prove and justify all 3 points, we can discuss further. If not, you don't deserve any more of my time.
Stop running and take up the challenge. You accused me of adding a fake video. Do have the guts to take up the challenge or not. You said its fake because that's the only way you can get out of your pinjar. I am happy to pay the price if it's fake. I posted it,Yes or no

BTW
 
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Stop running and take up the challenge. You accused me of adding a fake video. Do have the balls to take up the challenge or not. You said its fake because that's the only way you can get out of your pinjar. I am happy to pay the price if it's fake. I posted it,I will own it. You have kacked your chaddis. Yes or no

BTW
Beavis and Buutthead can't save you.
Stop running away answer his 3 questions

@RizwanT20Champ this is what I was saying they won't stick to the point they will try to divert conversation when they have no answer 🤣
 
Stop running away answer his 3 questions

@RizwanT20Champ this is what I was saying they won't stick to the point they will try to divert conversation when they have no answer 🤣
Here comes another boot polisher. It simple- he said the video of the governor of Punjab accepting election was rigged was fake. Do you believe it's fake and I will add you to the challenge . If I can will you also take my challenge. Yes or no. It's either you spit and Polish guys or me. Come stop looking for escape routes, you are trapped. Yes or no
 
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What a great addition, @RizwanT20Champ has been to the forum esp when it comes to tackling the ever ferocious PTI trolls. Most of us just dont have the energy to engage the cultists as they go on their ramble fests.
Another set of warm nothing words that don't add jack to anything. Go back to sleep. Do you believe the video that has the boot polishers is fake? These guys have trapped with their dishonesty and shamelessness
 
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Here comes another boot polisher. It simple- he said the video of the governor of Punjab accepting election was rigged was fake. Do you believe it's fake and I will add you to the challenge. If I can will you also take my challenge. Yes or no. It's either you spit and Polish guys or me. Come stop looking for escape routes, you are trapped. Yes or no
What video you talking about
 
Another set of warm nothing words that don't add jack to anything. Go back to sleep. Do you believe the video that has the boot polishers is fake? These guys have trapped with their dishonesty and shamelessness
Firstly you need to stop lying. I asked you to prove the video was real beyond doubt. You have no way of proving it unless you have access to the device that was used to record the event and if someone testifies under oath that it was him. Secondly here is the kicker: let's assume for a second that this so called video is not fake - can you prove that the video was made by this individual's own free will and that he was not coerced by the thugs you support? Finally...now hear me out this is the best one..if you say the guy in the video is a crook, why are his words worth anything? Answer all the points and don't run away :)
 
Firstly you need to stop lying. I asked you to prove the video was real beyond doubt. You have no way of proving it unless you have access to the device that was used to record the event and if someone testifies under oath that it was him. Secondly here is the kicker: let's assume for a second that this so called video is not fake - can you prove that the video was made by this individual's own free will and that he was not coerced by the thugs you support? Finally...now hear me out this is the best one..if you say the guy in the video is a crook, why are his words worth anything? Answer all the points and don't run away :)
@Bewal Express any answer? Or you agree?
 
Just as expected, you have no answer. So predictable. :inti
Take up the offer. This isn't a PTI worker, he is the governor of Punjab in a coalition with NS and the mafia.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">مجھے گارنٹی ہے تارڑ صاحب (عطا تارڑ) ہارے ہوئے تھے، پورا راولپنڈی اور اٹک فارم 47 پر ہے، کراچی کے بہت سارے حلقے فارم 47 پر ہیں، اٹک میں میرا حلقہ (این اے 50) فارم 47 پر ہے، میں الیکشن ہارا ہوا ہوں۔ گورنر پنجاب سردار سلیم حیدر کی <a href="https://twitter.com/nguramani?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@nguramani</a> سے گفتگو <a href="https://t.co/IT8MduUwUs">pic.twitter.com/IT8MduUwUs</a></p>&mdash; Ahmad Warraich (@ahmadwaraichh) <a href=" ">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Take up the offer. This isn't a PTI worker, he is the governor of Punjab in a coalition with NS and the mafia.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">مجھے گارنٹی ہے تارڑ صاحب (عطا تارڑ) ہارے ہوئے تھے، پورا راولپنڈی اور اٹک فارم 47 پر ہے، کراچی کے بہت سارے حلقے فارم 47 پر ہیں، اٹک میں میرا حلقہ (این اے 50) فارم 47 پر ہے، میں الیکشن ہارا ہوا ہوں۔ گورنر پنجاب سردار سلیم حیدر کی <a href="https://twitter.com/nguramani?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@nguramani</a> سے گفتگو <a href="https://t.co/IT8MduUwUs">pic.twitter.com/IT8MduUwUs</a></p>&mdash; Ahmad Warraich (@ahmadwaraichh) <a href=" ">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Bro are you dense? OK let's do it your way. Let me be nice to you and assume this video is not fake. Can you prove this video was made out of his own free will and not coerced by the thugs you support?

Why should we believe him now when you say he's a crook?

Answer these two questions and dont run away. I was nice and gave you one question in maafi.
 
Bro are you dense? OK let's do it your way. Let me be nice to you and assume this video is not fake. Can you prove this video was made out of his own free will and not coerced by the thugs you support?

Why should we believe him now when you say he's a crook?

Answer these two questions and dont run away. I was nice and gave you one question in maafi.
The video isn't fake. You said its fake. You lied when there wasn't a need. You accused me of putting fake videos on a forum that i hold dear.

BTW
Coerced by whom? He is the governor of Punjab. He is in government
 
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The video isn't fake. You said its fake. You lied when there wasn't a need. You accused me of putting fake videos on a forum that i hold dear. Scum like you have to leave if you are man enough. If it was fake I would have kept my word. So keep yours. Beghairati people like you have disrespected this forum. You lied.

BTW
Coerced by whom? He is the governor of Punjab. He is in government
I never said this specific video was fake. Prove it if you're a real man like your black lentils. I said you need to prove that it is authentic. Are you dense or dense?

That's up to you to prove schizophrenic bipolar man. Prove that he wasn't coerced.

Why do you believe his words now btw? Or you selectively believe those you call crooks? Hypocrisy!
 
Haha personal attacks again. Expected of hut dwelling thug supporters in the UK. Pipe down, this is the big league and you are not even worth the dust on my shoe like your hero.
Stop running. You took me on. You supported the criminals and now you are not getting a free pass. You will have to beg like your friend @emranabbas( he told us that it was the PTi that stopped the internet) but there is no mercy for supporters of criminals.
 
You have not provide any evidence and who is this random guy? What his name?
He suffers the same delusions of grandeur as his hero. Typical cultist. He can't prove where I called the video fake. I said he needs to prove it's authentic as anything can be faked these days and he ran away with his tail between his legs.
 
I never said this specific video was fake. Prove it if you're a real man like your black lentils. I said you need to prove that it is authentic. Are you dense or dense?

That's up to you to prove schizophrenic bipolar man. Prove that he wasn't coerced.

Why do you believe his words now btw? Or you selectively believe those you call crooks? Hypocrisy!
Yes you did. You said you have to check meta and everything else. I told you to trust me. The video is real. I said I will leave the forum if it was fake. You gave your conditions and now your chaddi is moist with lies. Are you man enough.

 
Stop running. You took me on. You supported the criminals and now you are not getting a free pass. You will have to beg like your friend @emranabbas( he told us that it was the PTi that stopped the internet) but there is no mercy for supporters of criminals.
Took you on? Kon hae bhaee tu? I have much bigger fish to fry. Hut dweller go collect 2 dollars for your jailed criminal.
 
Jesus wept. You are debating politics but you are too stupid to look it up. Did they not have schools where you come from?

The person you're claiming to be the Governor of Punjab has never held that position. Stop spreading false information.

The guy below was the governor of Punjab during the time your claiming, he looks nothing like the guy in the video your posting

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Yes you did. You said you have to check meta and everything else. I told you to trust me. The video is real. I said I will leave the forum if it was fake. You gave your conditions and now your chaddi is moist with lies. Are you man enough.

Bro get help. I can donate a few dollars for you. :inti
 
He suffers the same delusions of grandeur as his hero. Typical cultist. He can't prove where I called the video fake. I said he needs to prove it's authentic as anything can be faked these days and he ran away with his tail between his legs.
So once again. You are lying. I said i can and you gave the conditions. So will you leave the forum. You have accepted the video isn't fake. So when are you leaving.
 
So once again. You are lying. I said i can and you gave the conditions. So will you leave the forum. You have accepted the video isn't fake. So when are you leaving.
The guy your claiming to be governor of Punjab never held they position stop lying you lost the debate now go and delete your account
 
@Bewal Express you will have to delete your account you have lost the debate and on top you lied your showing some random video saying he was governor of Punjab when he never held that position
 
App ki kasam
Good man. So i will prove to you that the guy saying it was the governor of Punajb. I will use more than one source- infact at least 3 sources. I will use the twitter post from warraich, I will use another twitter post that isn't PTI, I will use a discussion show involving the Generals tout and a newspaper report.
Is that fair terms?


BTW
It's not you I want to nail. It's your friend that accused me of posting fake videos.
 
OK I'll be the referee 👍🏼
This is the governor of Punjab Sardar Saleem Haider. A coalition partner of the Nooras

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This is a post on twitter of the same guy on a talk show

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">کمشنر لیاقت چٹھہ نے راولپنڈی، اٹک کے بارے میں جو بات کی تھی، آج وہی بات گورنر پنجاب سردار سلیم حیدر نے کی ہے۔ ان کو بھی تو ؟؟؟ 🙄 <a href="https://t.co/2XcSIh3CAl">https://t.co/2XcSIh3CAl</a></p>&mdash; Ahmad Warraich (@ahmadwaraichh) <a href=" ">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


This is another post from another anchor(Nadir Guramani) on the same allegations he made. It's still on his account.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking news:<br><br>The entire country won an election on form-47. I am saying this with guarantee that Information Minister Ataullah Tarar did not win the election, he had also won the election on form-47, claims governor Punjab Salim Haider. <a href="https://t.co/6DIOdCNrY0">pic.twitter.com/6DIOdCNrY0</a></p>&mdash; Nadir Guramani (@nguramani) <a href=" ">February 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a report by Dawn newspaper.


Haider said he had a “guarantee” that Information Minister Attaullah Tarar did not rightfully win the seat against Bilawal but had actually lost.

To a question about Tarar having won the seat based on alleged manipulation in Forms 47, as the PTI also claimed, Haider said: “Everyone is [successful based] on Forms 47. The whole country is [based] on Forms 47.”

Haider claimed there was widescale rigging based on the manipulation of Forms 47. “What are we trying to achieve by hiding this,” he added.

And to cap it off. This is a discussion of his allegations by the well known Tout of the Generals. Watch from 30secs and he says your governor has said the same.




So it's good bye and take care. And if I couldn't prove it's him saying. I would have left in humiliation. But you took me on and lost.
 
This is the governor of Punjab Sardar Saleem Haider. A coalition partner of the Nooras

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This is a post on twitter of the same guy on a talk show

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">کمشنر لیاقت چٹھہ نے راولپنڈی، اٹک کے بارے میں جو بات کی تھی، آج وہی بات گورنر پنجاب سردار سلیم حیدر نے کی ہے۔ ان کو بھی تو ؟؟؟ 🙄 <a href="https://t.co/2XcSIh3CAl">https://t.co/2XcSIh3CAl</a></p>&mdash; Ahmad Warraich (@ahmadwaraichh) <a href=" ">February 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


This is another post from another anchor(Nadir Guramani) on the same allegations he made. It's still on his account.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking news:<br><br>The entire country won an election on form-47. I am saying this with guarantee that Information Minister Ataullah Tarar did not win the election, he had also won the election on form-47, claims governor Punjab Salim Haider. <a href="https://t.co/6DIOdCNrY0">pic.twitter.com/6DIOdCNrY0</a></p>&mdash; Nadir Guramani (@nguramani) <a href=" ">February 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a report by Dawn newspaper.


Haider said he had a “guarantee” that Information Minister Attaullah Tarar did not rightfully win the seat against Bilawal but had actually lost.

To a question about Tarar having won the seat based on alleged manipulation in Forms 47, as the PTI also claimed, Haider said: “Everyone is [successful based] on Forms 47. The whole country is [based] on Forms 47.”

Haider claimed there was widescale rigging based on the manipulation of Forms 47. “What are we trying to achieve by hiding this,” he added.

And to cap it off. This is a discussion of his allegations by the well known Tout of the Generals. Watch from 30secs and he says your governor has said the same.




So it's good bye and take care. And if I couldn't prove it's him saying. I would have left in humiliation. But you took me on and lost.
This is some random stuff again doesn't prove anything
 
If I didn't know better I'd think he was just learning how to use YouTube and copy pasting everything in his watch list.
So i proved that it wasn't fake, he is the governor of Punjab and he said that the whole govt was fake form 47s. But as a total loser, you got no balls or morals. This is going to be brought every time you post on here.
 
So i proved that it wasn't fake, he is the governor of Punjab and he said that the whole govt was fake form 47s. But as a total loser, you got no balls or morals. This is going to be brought every time you post on here.
You are such a beigheirat of the highest order. I never said this video specifically was fake. Show me where I said that or stop posting here. Hut dweller had one too many?
 
I genuinely did not want him to delete his account. I would prefer if I could make him realise who he is supporting. I am also glad to help with a small donation if he needs it.
You wanted it but you knew that I never play on slippery ground. We are brought up on morals and sticking to our promises. If I had been proved wrong, I would have gone. I will never allow any Noora ever to get the better of me. You guys maybe immoral and beghairat but don't ever assume that us PTI guys are like you.
 
You wanted it but you knew that I never play on slippery ground. We are brought up on morals and sticking to our promises. If I had been proved wrong, I would have gone. I will never allow any Noora ever to get the better of me. You guys maybe immoral and beghairat but don't ever assume that us PTI guys are like you.
What's PTI guys? Are you Bhushra?
 
You are such a beigheirat of the highest order. I never said this video specifically was fake. Show me where I said that or stop posting here. Hut dweller had one too many?
You asked me to prove that it was real. I did prove it was real. All that crap about Meta when you realised that you were cornered. No morals or balls. You deserve your humiliation at my hands. This is going to brought up every time.
 
You asked me to prove that it was real. I did prove it was real. All that crap about Meta when you realised that you were cornered. No morals or balls. You deserve your humiliation at my hands. This is going to brought up every time.
Hahaha so where did i say this video specifically was fake? Can you show it? Beigheirat just like your criminal lover.
 
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