CM Punjab Maryam Nawaz launches country’s 1st ever Suthra Punjab program

The title of the thread and the article referenced are misleading. These type of campgains have long been used by political parties for their public image. Punjab is way better than Sindh and other parts not because Nawaz and his party have shown some amazing leadership to transform the province but it's more so the extreme corruption and lack of development in other provinces


 
Can you shed some light on the purpose of creating PTI by the army in 1996? How was PTI used by the army until 2013 when their popularity snowballed?
He is saying this because his party was a product of the Generals and ZAB took an oath from Ayub, he stole the elections from BDs because of his racism, and for that alone he deserved to be hanged. He is also bitter because his 2nd favourite, NS is a product of the Generals, lest we forget General Jilani. The PTI has never received help from the Generals, the best you can say is that they didn't stop a PTI win in 2018 and took 20 seats away from them. We know from many sources that Bajwa wanted to overthrow IK as early as 2019, but the Ind skirmish and IKs excellent leadership stopped that from coming to fruition , then he went again in 2020 but the Covid crisis stoppped his plans. If you remember that SS was brought back in 2020 to become PM after IK refused the lock down and all the mafia wanted to lock down PK to create a crisis. IK spent only $20bn dollars( and that's probably over egging it) and came out as amongst the best 5 in the World. And then they waited again to overthrow him.
 
Is Maryam Nawaz more competent than her father and uncle?
Cut from the same cloth as her father and uncle. Probably the stupidest politican we have had but she knows how to stay in the good books of the man in command and she's willing to do anything to have that sliver of power. She's not competent, she's playing the power game with the help and support of the milatry establishment and using PR to gain some support from the public
 
Cut from the same cloth as her father and uncle. Probably the stupidest politican we have had but she knows how to stay in the good books of the man in command and she's willing to do anything to have that sliver of power
Are there corruption charges against her as well?
 
Are there corruption charges against her as well?
@Bewal Express would be the right person to ask this but she along with her entire family are proven criminals. Her dad couldn't provide any proof of the wealth he had amassed was legitimately earned. She was found on record saying she didn't have property in Pakistan let alone in London but later accepted she had properties abroad. She is famously known as "Calibary Queen" for submitting documents in court that were later found to be fake as she had used Calibary font to type a letter dated for when it wasn't released. Tosha khana which is the favorite legal case of PMLN to convict Imran Khan, the Nawaz family had been stealing from it and when Maryam was confronted on this, she didn't have an answer. Sharif family along with Bhutto family are some of the most corrupt politicans in the world but their corruption pales in comparison to Pakistani generals
 
Sharif family along with Bhutto family are some of the most corrupt politicans in the world but their corruption pales in comparison to Pakistani generals
Why in the world do common Pakistanis still support these people?
 
Why in the world do common Pakistanis still support these people?
Most Pakistanis don't. The elections are a proof of that. The public is so overwhelmingly against them that even with the complete support of the generals and mass rigging, they couldn't win 1/3 of the seats which is a shame because both these parties are the largest tradtional parties and have a lot of history.
Having said this, in my opinion, Imran Khan isn't a good politician either and not the right man for the PMship. He made a lot of compromises to get into power and did a lot of stupid things like beefing with Modi and ruining relationship with the US. There was a lot he could have done differently even with the limited power he had but he squandered this opportunity and went after his rivals instead.
 
Are there corruption charges against her as well?
It's common in Pakistan if you can't beat anyone legally then throw mud at them. I don't know know much about the past but looking at the recent development she's has done more than anyone else has done for pakistan in terms of development
 
@Bewal Express would be the right person to ask this but she along with her entire family are proven criminals. Her dad couldn't provide any proof of the wealth he had amassed was legitimately earned. She was found on record saying she didn't have property in Pakistan let alone in London but later accepted she had properties abroad. She is famously known as "Calibary Queen" for submitting documents in court that were later found to be fake as she had used Calibary font to type a letter dated for when it wasn't released. Tosha khana which is the favorite legal case of PMLN to convict Imran Khan, the Nawaz family had been stealing from it and when Maryam was confronted on this, she didn't have an answer. Sharif family along with Bhutto family are some of the most corrupt politicans in the world but their corruption pales in comparison to Pakistani generals
Well written and well said. Maybe @emranabbas can explain these words of his favorite CM.

 
Well done marium nawaz much better than having carts in middle of nowhere and disturbing public

 
It's common in Pakistan if you can't beat anyone legally then throw mud at them. I don't know know much about the past but looking at the recent development she's has done more than anyone else has done for pakistan in terms of development

Thought you had no Affiliation with any Pakistan political party.

I certainly don't. But I do remember, PDM with the establishment stole people's mandate. Imran had a strong majority. So whatever these corrupt leaches do, it's all to keep the establishment on their side.
 
Thought you had no Affiliation with any Pakistan political party.

I certainly don't. But I do remember, PDM with the establishment stole people's mandate. Imran had a strong majority. So whatever these corrupt leaches do, it's all to keep the establishment on their side.
No I don't but I do with pakistan if Pakistan is devolving then I will praise it
 
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Thought you had no Affiliation with any Pakistan political party.

I certainly don't. But I do remember, PDM with the establishment stole people's mandate. Imran had a strong majority. So whatever these corrupt leaches do, it's all to keep the establishment on their side.
So tell me to be a Pakistani it's compulsory to have affiliation with a party?
 
Maybe you need to explain that to your fellow pti supporters because they started it just because I praised my city for being cleaner

And be a man and answer the question don't run away from it

So, according to your logic, if my city is becoming cleaner and improving, I can’t praise it simply because it’s being done by a party you dislike? And if I do praise it, that automatically makes me a supporter of that party?
 
Maybe you need to explain that to your fellow pti supporters because they started it just because I praised my city for being cleaner

And be a man and answer the question don't run away from it

So, according to your logic, if my city is becoming cleaner and improving, I can’t praise it simply because it’s being done by a party you dislike? And if I do praise it, that automatically makes me a supporter of that party?

Who cares who you support .

I'm just pointing the facts. PDM with the establishment stole the Peoples mandate.
 
Who cares who you support .

I'm just pointing the facts. PDM with the establishment stole the Peoples mandate.
Do I care? What PDM imran khan nawaz shareef had done

My concern is about what effects me and thats punjab

Stop skipping my question

So, according to your logic, if my city is becoming cleaner and improving, I can’t praise it simply because it’s being done by a party you dislike? And if I do praise it, that automatically makes me a supporter of that party?
 
@FearlessRoar @The Bald Eagle

I kindly request that you clean up this thread by removing irrelevant posts unrelated to Pakistan’s development, or allow me to create a new thread.

For those who want to discuss PML-N vs PTI, there are hundreds of other threads available for that purpose.
 
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Do I care? What PDM imran khan nawaz shareef had done

My concern is about what effects me and thats punjab

Stop skipping my question

So, according to your logic, if my city is becoming cleaner and improving, I can’t praise it simply because it’s being done by a party you dislike? And if I do praise it, that automatically makes me a supporter of that party?

If my city was getting ample benefit through Corruption, I'd denounce it instantly.

Im afraid, we have different mentality.
 
Why are you worried about other countries? Why has your madam lied on the 2 videos? Who will hold her to account?

BTW
As PK is one of the most corrupt countries in the World
 
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@FearlessRoar @The Bald Eagle

I kindly request that you clean up this thread by removing irrelevant posts unrelated to Pakistan’s development, or allow me to create a new thread.

For those who want to discuss PML-N vs PTI, there are hundreds of other threads available for that purpose.
You are promoting Maryam Nawaz, that was the point of this whole thread. It’s like praising Pablo Escobar for helping people in local communities.
Any development projects run under Nawaz family, there’s bound to be corruption and the family will benefit from it but it’s a win win for pmln supporters because “khata hai tou lagata be tou hai”
 
Why don’t you go back to Pakistan and live in the city you like to praise so much. You don’t have faith in your favourite leaders or what?
My leaders, my army, my country, my fellow Pakistanis you’re simply not welcome. Keep your obsession away from my country.
 
You are promoting Maryam Nawaz, that was the point of this whole thread. Any development projects run under Nawaz family, there’s bound to be corruption and the family will benefit from it but it’s a win win for pmln supporters because “khata hai tou lagata be tou hai”
If that’s your logic, then don’t visit Pakistan until Imran becomes Prime Minister. Also, don’t support the Pakistan cricket team, as it’s run under the current government.
 
If that’s your logic, then don’t visit Pakistan until Imran becomes Prime Minister. Also, don’t support the Pakistan cricket team, as it’s run under the current government.
Here’s a cricket analogy for you-if you knew Pakistan tram was infiltrated by fixers and they were losing important matches particularly world cup matches against India but won you a few inconsequential home series against lower tier teams, would you still support them?
 
Just like you
I don’t have faith in any politician or leader in Pakistan. I like Pakistani people but I’m not going to throw away my future to live in a country with deep rooted systematic issues.
 
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@emranabbas created this thread to discuss CM Maryam Nawaz's initiative to clean Punjab. Please avoid any PTI vs PML-N discussions here.
No you can’t make up those rules. Why steer the discussion in the direction that suits your agenda? You want people to come here and praise Maryam how great she is? A crook who has stolen billions from the poor people of Pakistan? What kind of a thread is this?
 
A broader discussion would involve talking about development in line with the thread's title.

Why not share some of the development achieved during Imran Khan’s tenure instead of resorting to insults and accusations of corruption, especially when there are already threads dedicated to that topic?
 
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If you want a broader discussion then reply to this you have completely ignored so have your pti friends despite you being tagged

For the general public in Pakistan, this is progress. They now have more space to shop without unnecessary men, who have no reason to be in the bazaar, wandering around or riding through on their motorbikes.

Secondly it's a crack down on those who are sitting on land not belonging to them pathways are to walk on this needs to be cracked down
 
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@psyoptica why not talk about encroachment that this government is tackling why did imran khan do to tackle it? Its related to thread title
 
A broader discussion would involve talking about development in line with the thread's title.

Why not share some of the development achieved during Imran Khan’s tenure instead of resorting to insults and accusations of corruption, especially when there are already threads dedicated to that topic?
I’m not an Imran Khan supporter or his spokesman but I’m happy to do analysis and compare both if someone can assure me my posts won’t get deleted on the account of getting sidetracked.
Don’t take the my judgement against Maryam nawaz personally. If you want to praise her, go for it that’s your right as a Pakistani to support whoever you like but don’t expect people to join the bandwagon because a lot of us can see through the lies.
 
@psyoptica why not talk about encroachment that this government is tackling why did imran khan do to tackle it? Its related to thread title
Can you shed some light on when the encroachment began and why only now the government is taking notice? Were these business owner given a heads up that their shops were going to be run down or were they surprised by the bulldozers showing up unannounced and starting to tear down everything?
 
I’m not an Imran Khan supporter or his spokesman but I’m happy to do analysis and compare both if someone can assure me my posts won’t get deleted on the account of getting sidetracked.
You sidetracking the discussion is bringing up corruption by this party, which already has its own dedicated thread.


Don’t take the my judgement against Maryam nawaz personally. If you want to praise her, go for it that’s your right as a Pakistani to support whoever you like but don’t expect people to join the bandwagon because a lot of us can see through the lies.
This isn’t about praising Maryam Nawaz or Imran Khan; it’s about visiting a country and having a pleasant experience. It’s uncomfortable to visit a place with bumpy roads, heavy traffic, motorbikes weaving dangerously, exposed sewage with a foul smell, dusty surroundings, and overcrowded bazaars where people constantly bump into each other, with cars and motorcycles coming out of nowhere. If all of that is being improved, why would you have a problem?


The only excuse you seem to offer is that it’s being done by an anti-Imran Khan party and its a corrupted party Is this what you call a broad discussion?
 
@psyoptica why not talk about encroachment that this government is tackling why did imran khan do to tackle it? Its related to thread title
The Nooras have ruled this province from 1985 until 1999. They were in power again from 2008 until 2018. So can you give a timeline for this encroachment.
 
Can you shed some light on when the encroachment began and why only now the government is taking notice?

This issue has been ongoing since Pakistan's creation. Maryam is now cracking down on it aggressively, and since this is her first time as CM, she obviously couldn’t have addressed it in the 1970s or 1980s.

However, I believe it was initially started by Imran Khan.



Were these business owner given a heads up that their shops were going to be run down or were they surprised by the bulldozers showing up unannounced and starting to tear down everything?

These businesses were given a month’s notice. Many complied with the order, but those that didn’t are now being bulldozed.

It’s happened in my in-laws' city as well, and everyone there seems pleased about it, including PTI supporters. The only ones unhappy are PTI supporters based in the UK and, understandably, the shopkeepers.
 
It’s called development. Perhaps you and @psyoptica fine with your mum and sister walking through crowded bazaars where most men stare at them, and a few even brush shoulders with them, but not everyone shares your perspective.


For the general public in Pakistan, this is progress. They now have more space to shop without unnecessary men, who have no reason to be in the bazaar, wandering around or riding through on their motorbikes.

Secondly it's a crack down on those who are sitting on land not belonging to them pathways are to walk on this needs to be cracked down
That is not development, set aside the PMLN or whatever WhatsApp University you’re relying on.

It seems that most of our mothers and sisters are only deemed safe in that bazar. Yet, when it’s time to protest for their rights and mandate, their dupattas will be tossed aside in public, and you’ll be looking for excuses to justify the actions of an illegal government.
 
That is not development, set aside the PMLN or whatever WhatsApp University you’re relying on.

It seems that most of our mothers and sisters are only deemed safe in that bazar. Yet, when it’s time to protest for their rights and mandate, their dupattas will be tossed aside in public, and you’ll be looking for excuses to justify the actions of an illegal government.
This thread isn’t about women’s rights. You’re more than welcome to start a new thread, and I’ll gladly discuss it with you there.

If you have anything to contribute about development or want to highlight what Imran Khan did for development, feel free to share. Just don’t whine and try taking this thread off topic
 
This thread isn’t about women’s rights. You’re more than welcome to start a new thread, and I’ll gladly discuss it with you there.

If you have anything to contribute about development or want to highlight what Imran Khan did for development, feel free to share. Just don’t whine and try taking this thread off topic
You involved other people's mothers and sisters to support an illegal government. In response, I highlighted the mothers and sisters of Pakistan to show that what you're suggesting is completely false. In other parts of the country, the same government that pretends to safeguard mothers and sisters in a specific bazaar is acting in direct contradiction to this claim throughout the rest of Pakistan.

Moreover, over 80% of the people of Pakistan elected PTI, even if, as you suggest, PTI worsened the economy. This fact alone renders every narrative of yours irrelevant.
 
Lahore is already back in shape after that clown Buzdar.
What about the clowns who've ruled it for the previous 35 years? And couldn't build a single hospital where they themselves would get treatment. Otherwise they'd not be running abroad for every basic treatmenr
 
You involved other people's mothers and sisters to support an illegal government. In response, I highlighted the mothers and sisters of Pakistan to show that what you're suggesting is completely false. In other parts of the country, the same government that pretends to safeguard mothers and sisters in a specific bazaar is acting in direct contradiction to this claim throughout the rest of Pakistan.

Moreover, over 80% of the people of Pakistan elected PTI, even if, as you suggest, PTI worsened the economy. This fact alone renders every narrative of yours irrelevant.
Bottom line is he's in jail and probably will die In jail. Country has to progress with or without him.
We can't close the country down just for his sake. He had is chance absolutely did nothing no point flip flopping nd sulking now
 
Bottom line is he's in jail and probably will die In jail. Country has to progress with or without him.
We can't close the country down just for his sake. He had is chance absolutely did nothing no point flip flopping nd sulking now

The bottom line isn’t what you’re emphasizing, the real issue is the lack of true democracy, with the appearance of development and prosperity being nothing more than a fleeting illusion.

The country has never truly been open since its founding. In the most recent election, over 80% voted in favor of opening it up for everyone, which you clearly oppose, likely due to personal gain.
 
The bottom line isn’t what you’re emphasizing, the real issue is the lack of true democracy, with the appearance of development and prosperity being nothing more than a fleeting illusion.
That's your opinion and it doesn't matter and your entitled to it.

The country has never truly been open since its founding. In the most recent election, over 80% voted in favor of opening it up for everyone, which you clearly oppose, likely due to personal gain.
80% is a figure that just gets thrown around until you can prove it :shh
 
Bottom line is he's in jail and probably will die In jail. Country has to progress with or without him.
We can't close the country down just for his sake. He had is chance absolutely did nothing no point flip flopping nd sulking now
The country is its people and unless you are total numpty or totally dishonest, it chose him. By artificially insemination, the Junta have imposed a criminal onto its population so that they can stay in control. This has now become a symbiotic relationship and neither has any capital except guns and tanks.
 
That's your opinion and it doesn't matter and your entitled to it.


80% is a figure that just gets thrown around until you can prove it :shh

You're so right, my opinion is completely irrelevant. As for the 80%, I must have picked it up from the same mystical place where people find their unshakable confidence in dismissing facts. But hey, I’ll be sure to email you a signed affidavit from every single voter to make it official. Until then, let’s just assume numbers only count when they’re stamped with your approval.
 
You're so right, my opinion is completely irrelevant.
exactly


As for the 80%, I must have picked it up from the same mystical place where people find their unshakable confidence in dismissing facts. But hey, I’ll be sure to email you a signed affidavit from every single voter to make it official. Until then, let’s just assume numbers only count when they’re stamped with your approval.
You don't need my approval, but you do need some common sense. 80 percent is a huge portion of the population when you're talking about a country with 250 million people, and yet no one seems to care? Come on, save that myth for someone else. There’s still a lot of support for PML-N in the Punjab region even today. Maybe you should step out of your cozy home in England and actually go to Pakistan to do some research. The only sore losers here are you UK-based supporters and some hardcore PTI fans from Pakistan and your probably only supporting Imran khan because he won you the world cup.

Anyway, why are we even discussing this? Do you have a comprehension issue? This has nothing to do with the thread’s title.

Let’s focus on the actual topic what are some of the developments made by Imran Khan’s government?

Why do PTI supporters keep dodging this question?
 
exactly



You don't need my approval, but you do need some common sense. 80 percent is a huge portion of the population when you're talking about a country with 250 million people, and yet no one seems to care? Come on, save that myth for someone else. There’s still a lot of support for PML-N in the Punjab region even today. Maybe you should step out of your cozy home in England and actually go to Pakistan to do some research. The only sore losers here are you UK-based supporters and some hardcore PTI fans from Pakistan and your probably only supporting Imran khan because he won you the world cup.

Anyway, why are we even discussing this? Do you have a comprehension issue? This has nothing to do with the thread’s title.

Let’s focus on the actual topic what are some of the developments made by Imran Khan’s government?

Why do PTI supporters keep dodging this question?
Wow, is this really the best you’ve got? Throwing around words like 'no one cares,' 'UK,' 'cozy home,' and 'world cup'? For someone backing PMLN with such enthusiasm, I thought you might actually bring something to the table, other than a Saddar bazaar and a few overused talking points.

And sure, no one’s arguing that some people still support PMLN. After all, it’s hard to complain when some cashing in on a corrupt system.

Oh, and just a friendly reminder, the thread title says Maryam Nawaz, not Imran Khan. Maybe give it another glance. Meanwhile, you’re hyping up a bazaar and a couple of roads as if Maryam turned Lahore into the Paris of Asia.

And you’re absolutely right, 80% of the voting population is a massive number, and if you actually believe in democracy, you’d respect and accept their choice instead of mocking them. But hey, I get it, ridiculing people is much easier than dealing with the reality of majority rule, isn’t it?
 
Wow, is this really the best you’ve got? Throwing around words like 'no one cares,' 'UK,' 'cozy home,' and 'world cup'? For someone backing PMLN with such enthusiasm, I thought you might actually bring something to the table, other than a Saddar bazaar and a few overused talking points.

And sure, no one’s arguing that some people still support PMLN. After all, it’s hard to complain when some cashing in on a corrupt system.

Oh, and just a friendly reminder, the thread title says Maryam Nawaz, not Imran Khan. Maybe give it another glance. Meanwhile, you’re hyping up a bazaar and a couple of roads as if Maryam turned Lahore into the Paris of Asia.

Is that the best you can do? Throwing weak slurs instead of providing a proper counter-argument?

And it’s not just a couple of roads. you’re so out of touch with what’s happening in Punjab but still want to talk big.

Development is happening in every single city of Punjab, so maybe do your research before criticizing a project you clearly know nothing about.



 
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@HalBass9 You still haven’t explained why you believe encroachment should be legal or why the government shouldn’t take action against it. You keep dodging my question, too tough for you to answer
 
Is that the best you can do? Throwing weak slurs instead of providing a proper counter-argument?

And it’s not just a couple of roads. you’re so out of touch with what’s happening in Punjab but still want to talk big.

Development is happening in every single city of Punjab, so maybe do your research before criticizing a project you clearly know nothing about.
@emranabbas, what is your source for above info, please produce it for others
 
Is that the best you can do? Throwing weak slurs instead of providing a proper counter-argument?

And it’s not just a couple of roads. you’re so out of touch with what’s happening in Punjab but still want to talk big.

Development is happening in every single city of Punjab, so maybe do your research before criticizing a project you clearly know nothing about.
Slurs? that is not slur. that is a fact that I have presented. lol
 
@HalBass9 You still haven’t explained why you believe encroachment should be legal or why the government shouldn’t take action against it. You keep dodging my question, too tough for you to answer
Still? I never posted about encroachment.

You’re trying to shift the goalpost again, focusing on the symptoms while I’m here to address the root cause, which is the blatant disregard for the people’s mandate.
 
@emranabbas, what is your source for above info, please produce it for others
I have videos of below cities and can share them here if you provide access to upload videos. Alternatively, I can make it easier by sharing videos of every single city listed below on your WhatsApp.

There’s work being done in other cities for which I don’t have videos, so I can’t provide those. However, I can send you videos of every city I’ve mentioned.

PTI supporters may choose to hate for the sake of it, but that’s a different matter altogether. They are known for events like 9th may and spreading terror



Lahore
Kamoke
Gujranwala
Jhelum
Lala musa
Faislabad
Sahiwal
Arifwala
Dina
Daska
Lakhanwal

The ones I know of on top of my head
 
Still? I never posted about encroachment.

You’re trying to shift the goalpost again, focusing on the symptoms while I’m here to address the root cause, which is the blatant disregard for the people’s mandate.
So what your arguing about then if you don't even know anything about the project encroachment is part of this suthra punjab project 🤡
 
I have videos of below cities and can share them here if you provide access to upload videos. Alternatively, I can make it easier by sharing videos of every single city listed below on your WhatsApp.

There’s work being done in other cities for which I don’t have videos, so I can’t provide those. However, I can send you videos of every city I’ve mentioned.

PTI supporters may choose to hate for the sake of it, but that’s a different matter altogether. They are known for events like 9th may and spreading terror



Lahore
Kamoke
Gujranwala
Jhelum
Lala musa
Faislabad
Sahiwal
Arifwala
Dina
Daska
Lakhanwal

The ones I know of on top of my head
Well then may be you are more informed then people here in Pakistan because I hardly come across people either on TV or on ground in Punjab who agree with what you suggest. But anyway you are entitled to your thoughts 👍
 
So what your arguing about then if you don't even know anything about the project encroachment is part of this suthra punjab project 🤡

I’m not here to argue with you because there’s nothing to argue about. The majority of Pakistanis won’t vote for PMLN, no matter how many bazaars they build or whatever points you throw out there. Most people have realized that true, lasting prosperity comes from continuous democracy and respecting the people’s mandate. I’m simply countering your narrative, I hope you’re sharp enough to see the difference.
 
Well then may be you are more informed then people here in Pakistan because I hardly come across people either on TV or on ground in Punjab who agree with what you suggest. But anyway you are entitled to your thoughts 👍

Share your WhatsApp, and I’ll send you the videos so you can see for yourself. This was in the news months ago. Work is being carried out in my city lahore and my in-laws' city, Sahiwal.


There’s also an app where you can report areas needing attention, and the Baldiyah department is handling it efficiently.


The video you shared shows the first step: demolishing illegal structures. The second step involves rebuilding the area, and the third step focuses on maintaining it.


There are thousands of videos on social media about this I’m not sure where you’ve been.


I’ve also shared links from ARY News below.



 
Share your WhatsApp, and I’ll send you the videos so you can see for yourself. This was in the news months ago. Work is being carried out in my city lahore and my in-laws' city, Sahiwal.


There’s also an app where you can report areas needing attention, and the Baldiyah department is handling it efficiently.


The video you shared shows the first step: demolishing illegal structures. The second step involves rebuilding the area, and the third step focuses on maintaining it.


There are thousands of videos on social media about this I’m not sure where you’ve been.


I’ve also shared links from ARY News below.



May be I am reading and observing the propaganda then 👇





 
I’m not here to argue with you because there’s nothing to argue about. The majority of Pakistanis won’t vote for PMLN, no matter how many bazaars they build or whatever points you throw out there. Most people have realized that true, lasting prosperity comes from continuous democracy and respecting the people’s mandate. I’m simply countering your narrative, I hope you’re sharp enough to see the difference.

I don’t care who votes for PML-N; that’s none of my business. I’m not going to beg people to support PML-N like you lot are begging by saying, "So-and-so is a thief, please vote for Imran Khan."

I haven’t given you any points or asked you to support PML-N, nor have I invited you to join this thread and post. You’re doing that on your own, so I have no idea what you’re on about.

The only question I posed at you is "why you believe encroachment should be legal or why the government shouldn’t take action against it.

Which you still dodging by bringing in random things

obviously you have a problem But you are not telling me what your issue is other than he's a chor she's a chor which isn't a valid reason to why punjab shouldn't develop
 
I don’t care who votes for PML-N; that’s none of my business. I’m not going to beg people to support PML-N like you lot are begging by saying, "So-and-so is a thief, please vote for Imran Khan."

I haven’t given you any points or asked you to support PML-N, nor have I invited you to join this thread and post. You’re doing that on your own, so I have no idea what you’re on about.

The only question I posed at you is "why you believe encroachment should be legal or why the government shouldn’t take action against it.

Which you still dodging by bringing in random things

obviously you have a problem But you are not telling me what your issue is other than he's a chor she's a chor which isn't a valid reason to why punjab shouldn't develop

Over 80% population have a problem, their mandate was stolen and they want democracy.
 
May be I am reading and observing the propaganda then 👇


here is the response to the first video you posted @aboveandbeyond


so within 3 months of that article Mariam Nawaz is already acting on it and working on a solution
 
Well then may be you are more informed then people here in Pakistan because I hardly come across people either on TV or on ground in Punjab who agree with what you suggest. But anyway you are entitled to your thoughts 👍
I know from my friends in Punjab and Lahore that this clown is the epitome of nacissm and pettiness. She has kicked off a few development projects which she could use for optics but her government is a total disaster. This can in fact be proven if you consider real issues like education, healthcare, law and order, seurity etc which takes real work to tackle. Anyone can throw a few pennies to build a road, paint it green and show to the world what great work they are doing for the city. She destoryed businesses of poor workers without giving them alternatives. If you wanna know what the real Maryam is like, look at what she does off camera. I haven't met a single person from Punjab who thinks she's good for the province. She's self-obsessed and hand in gloves with that gloves that is pak establishment military generals.
 
I think the point is simple.

Lahore a beautiful city that has been let down by murderers who masquerade as politicians...

You can make your Lahore look like the Paris of Asia but this matter's little when murderers are ruling, murderers that don't even have a mandate to rule.
 
May be I am reading and observing the propaganda then 👇





Sharing facts with @emranabbas is akin to doing the cross word puzzle with the cat.
 
May be I am reading and observing the propaganda then 👇



this is response to your second article 4 months after that article Mariam Nawaz has also looked into the farming industry

 
I don’t care who votes for PML-N; that’s none of my business. I’m not going to beg people to support PML-N like you lot are begging by saying, "So-and-so is a thief, please vote for Imran Khan."

I haven’t given you any points or asked you to support PML-N, nor have I invited you to join this thread and post. You’re doing that on your own, so I have no idea what you’re on about.

The only question I posed at you is "why you believe encroachment should be legal or why the government shouldn’t take action against it.

Which you still dodging by bringing in random things

obviously you have a problem But you are not telling me what your issue is other than he's a chor she's a chor which isn't a valid reason to why punjab shouldn't develop
Once again, can you share the history of these encroachments so that we know who allowed them. You can't be given credit for problems you created.
 
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