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The selector/coach of 6 provinces should have atleast 50 appearances for Pakistan along with if they have level 4 from eng/aus that will be plus if they haven't they should send them and not only them but a good bunch of modern retired cricketers after 2007 and some experience and they should start from u-13

For me:-
1. KPK : A Razzaq (retain - he has done well)
2. Northern : Yasir Arafat
3. Southern Punjab : Abdul rehman (retain)
4. Central Punjab : Taufeeq Umar
5. Sind : Umar Gul
6. Balochistan : Abdul rehman (spinner)
 
The selector/coach of 6 provinces should have atleast 50 appearances for Pakistan along with if they have level 4 from eng/aus that will be plus if they haven't they should send them and not only them but a good bunch of modern retired cricketers after 2007 and some experience and they should start from u-13

For me:-
1. KPK : A Razzaq (retain - he has done well)
2. Northern : Yasir Arafat
3. Southern Punjab : Abdul rehman (retain)
4. Central Punjab : Taufeeq Umar
5. Sind : Umar Gul
6. Balochistan : Abdul rehman (spinner)

Faisal Iqbal didn’t do too badly with the resources he had at his disposal..
 
Razzaq is not a coaching material

Yasir Arfat will make a very good coach and should be upgraded to national coach after 1-2 seasons.
 
Faisal Iqbal has done excellently with Balochistan. Very positive cricket, and he’s played something like 18 players over the course of 10 games, promoting youngsters and developing them, and being very competitive with a gang of misfits and even despite losing Yasir Shah, Kashif Bhatti, Imran Butt, and Sami Aslam in one fell swoop. They ended up placing 5th, but that hides behind it the way they played and performed.

Him, Shahid Anwar, and Abdul Razzaq were the standout coaches after Wasim this year.

Abdul Rehman has been quite underwhelming at Southern Punjab in terms of positive cricket played, and the results are only decent, but he has a wealth of experience behind him and is known to be a good coach, so I would retain him.

Basit Ali has been shockingly bad. He doesn’t promote youngsters much, gives shockingly large backing to people like Khurram Manzoor, Shehzar Mohammad, and more, failed to give Abrar Ahmed a consistent run, and I think recently played Azam Khan at number 3 if I’m not incorrect, rather than Saud Shakeel or even Asad Shafiq.

A lot of cricket played by Sindh has been defensive, and they are not just ranked 6th but a distant 6th. This is despite Omair and Sharjeel being the best opener combination in the competition, Saud being the second highest run scorer, and Asad Shafiq only recently dropped from the Test team. Between Tabish Khan, Shahnawaz Dhani, and Mir Hamza, they have one of the most exciting attacks in the tournament only after Central Punjab’s Hassan-Waqas combination. To fall short by such a large margin suggests a gross incompetence especially when one of the missing ingredients was a strike spinner, and they failed to promote people like Abrar (consistently) or Aarish Ali Khan, who didn’t even get a second XI look in.

After Sindh U19 dominated BOTH the one day and three day cups, Basit failed to promote the likes of Saim Ayub, Adeel Meo, and Aaliyan Mehmood to the second XI QeA trophy, and they finally only got a look in during the second XI one day cup. Even during this cup, Aaliyan Mehmood was ignored, and only Saim and Adeel selected.

Earlier in the national T20 cup, Asad Shafiq was played!!! during the T20 games and unsurprisingly he flopped when they needed him the most. Sohail Khan!!! batted at 5 in the semifinal. Danish Aziz had to rescue the team TWICE from situations where the top 5 had collapsed and they still didn’t promote him. Kartay kartay martay martay they made it to 3rd place in the table, but that conceals the absolutely horrible standard of cricket, Sharjeel’s failures, over reliance on Azam Khan and Danish Aziz, and failure to promote Hasan Mohsin or Hasan Khan.

For Northern, Wasim did an excellent job but has now been given the position of Chief Selector with Mohammad Masroor replacing him. Let me tell you a bit about this guy. He coached Sindh U19 to the one day and three day cups in 2019. He has a dozen age group titles from U13 to U19 for Sindh and Karachi. Here are some of the kids he’s worked with: Saud Shakeel, Mohammad Umar, Mohammad Asghar, Mohammad Taha, Aamir Ali, and Saim Ayub.

He was part of Northern’s team already this year and his promotion to head coach is well deserved. I would retain him.

In sum, my picks would be as follows:

KPK: Abdul Razzaq (retained)
Central Punjab: Shahid Anwar (retained)
Balochistan: Faisal Iqbal (retained)
Northern: Mohammad Masroor (promoted)
Southern Punjab: Abdul Rehman (retained on probation)
Sindh: ______ (interviews to be held with Yasir Arafat, Moin Khan, Taufeeq Umar and others)

I would not fast track Umar Gul - he can be made assistant coach and also put into an ECB accredited coaching program, with a goal of developing his coaching credentials for 2-3 years from now.
 
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Faisal Iqbal has done excellently with Balochistan. Very positive cricket, and he’s played something like 18 players over the course of 10 games, promoting youngsters and developing them, and being very competitive with a gang of misfits and even despite losing Yasir Shah, Kashif Bhatti, Imran Butt, and Sami Aslam in one fell swoop. They ended up placing 5th, but that hides behind it the way they played and performed.

Him, Shahid Anwar, and Abdul Razzaq were the standout coaches after Wasim this year.

Abdul Rehman has been quite underwhelming at Southern Punjab in terms of positive cricket played, and the results are only decent, but he has a wealth of experience behind him and is known to be a good coach, so I would retain him.

Basit Ali has been shockingly bad. He doesn’t promote youngsters much, gives shockingly large backing to people like Khurram Manzoor, Shehzar Mohammad, and more, failed to give Abrar Ahmed a consistent run, and I think recently played Azam Khan at number 3 if I’m not incorrect, rather than Saud Shakeel or even Asad Shafiq.

A lot of cricket played by Sindh has been defensive, and they are not just ranked 6th but a distant 6th. This is despite Omair and Sharjeel being the best opener combination in the competition, Saud being the second highest run scorer, and Asad Shafiq only recently dropped from the Test team. Between Tabish Khan, Shahnawaz Dhani, and Mir Hamza, they have one of the most exciting attacks in the tournament only after Central Punjab’s Hassan-Waqas combination. To fall short by such a large margin suggests a gross incompetence especially when one of the missing ingredients was a strike spinner, and they failed to promote people like Abrar (consistently) or Aarish Ali Khan, who didn’t even get a second XI look in.

After Sindh U19 dominated BOTH the one day and three day cups, Basit failed to promote the likes of Saim Ayub, Adeel Meo, and Aaliyan Mehmood to the second XI QeA trophy, and they finally only got a look in during the second XI one day cup. Even during this cup, Aaliyan Mehmood was ignored, and only Saim and Adeel selected.

Earlier in the national T20 cup, Asad Shafiq was played!!! during the T20 games and unsurprisingly he flopped when they needed him the most. Sohail Khan!!! batted at 5 in the semifinal. Danish Aziz had to rescue the team TWICE from situations where the top 5 had collapsed and they still didn’t promote him. Kartay kartay martay martay they made it to 3rd place in the table, but that conceals the absolutely horrible standard of cricket, Sharjeel’s failures, over reliance on Azam Khan and Danish Aziz, and failure to promote Hasan Mohsin or Hasan Khan.

For Northern, Wasim did an excellent job but has now been given the position of Chief Selector with Mohammad Masroor replacing him. Let me tell you a bit about this guy. He coached Sindh U19 to the one day and three day cups in 2019. He has a dozen age group titles from U13 to U19 for Sindh and Karachi. Here are some of the kids he’s worked with: Saud Shakeel, Mohammad Umar, Mohammad Asghar, Mohammad Taha, Aamir Ali, and Saim Ayub.

He was part of Northern’s team already this year and his promotion to head coach is well deserved. I would retain him.

In sum, my picks would be as follows:

KPK: Abdul Razzaq (retained)
Central Punjab: Shahid Anwar (retained)
Balochistan: Faisal Iqbal (retained)
Northern: Mohammad Masroor (promoted)
Southern Punjab: Abdul Rehman (retained on probation)
Sindh: ______ (interviews to be held with Yasir Arafat, Moin Khan, Taufeeq Umar and others)

I would not fast track Umar Gul - he can be made assistant coach and also put into an ECB accredited coaching program, with a goal of developing his coaching credentials for 2-3 years from now.

Good analysis. I agree with the promotion of Mohammad Masroor as well, guy has come up through junior cricket and last few batches of U19 cricketers have acknowledged the work he has put in.
 
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Masroor should coach Sindh because he knows the ins and outs of upcoming talent from Sindh. He has the right coaching experience and I believe he’ll do a good job. He could be both the coach and the selector for Sindh.
 
Faisal Iqbal has done excellently with Balochistan. Very positive cricket, and he’s played something like 18 players over the course of 10 games, promoting youngsters and developing them, and being very competitive with a gang of misfits and even despite losing Yasir Shah, Kashif Bhatti, Imran Butt, and Sami Aslam in one fell swoop. They ended up placing 5th, but that hides behind it the way they played and performed.

Him, Shahid Anwar, and Abdul Razzaq were the standout coaches after Wasim this year.

Abdul Rehman has been quite underwhelming at Southern Punjab in terms of positive cricket played, and the results are only decent, but he has a wealth of experience behind him and is known to be a good coach, so I would retain him.

Basit Ali has been shockingly bad. He doesn’t promote youngsters much, gives shockingly large backing to people like Khurram Manzoor, Shehzar Mohammad, and more, failed to give Abrar Ahmed a consistent run, and I think recently played Azam Khan at number 3 if I’m not incorrect, rather than Saud Shakeel or even Asad Shafiq.

A lot of cricket played by Sindh has been defensive, and they are not just ranked 6th but a distant 6th. This is despite Omair and Sharjeel being the best opener combination in the competition, Saud being the second highest run scorer, and Asad Shafiq only recently dropped from the Test team. Between Tabish Khan, Shahnawaz Dhani, and Mir Hamza, they have one of the most exciting attacks in the tournament only after Central Punjab’s Hassan-Waqas combination. To fall short by such a large margin suggests a gross incompetence especially when one of the missing ingredients was a strike spinner, and they failed to promote people like Abrar (consistently) or Aarish Ali Khan, who didn’t even get a second XI look in.

After Sindh U19 dominated BOTH the one day and three day cups, Basit failed to promote the likes of Saim Ayub, Adeel Meo, and Aaliyan Mehmood to the second XI QeA trophy, and they finally only got a look in during the second XI one day cup. Even during this cup, Aaliyan Mehmood was ignored, and only Saim and Adeel selected.

Earlier in the national T20 cup, Asad Shafiq was played!!! during the T20 games and unsurprisingly he flopped when they needed him the most. Sohail Khan!!! batted at 5 in the semifinal. Danish Aziz had to rescue the team TWICE from situations where the top 5 had collapsed and they still didn’t promote him. Kartay kartay martay martay they made it to 3rd place in the table, but that conceals the absolutely horrible standard of cricket, Sharjeel’s failures, over reliance on Azam Khan and Danish Aziz, and failure to promote Hasan Mohsin or Hasan Khan.

For Northern, Wasim did an excellent job but has now been given the position of Chief Selector with Mohammad Masroor replacing him. Let me tell you a bit about this guy. He coached Sindh U19 to the one day and three day cups in 2019. He has a dozen age group titles from U13 to U19 for Sindh and Karachi. Here are some of the kids he’s worked with: Saud Shakeel, Mohammad Umar, Mohammad Asghar, Mohammad Taha, Aamir Ali, and Saim Ayub.

He was part of Northern’s team already this year and his promotion to head coach is well deserved. I would retain him.

In sum, my picks would be as follows:

KPK: Abdul Razzaq (retained)
Central Punjab: Shahid Anwar (retained)
Balochistan: Faisal Iqbal (retained)
Northern: Mohammad Masroor (promoted)
Southern Punjab: Abdul Rehman (retained on probation)
Sindh: ______ (interviews to be held with Yasir Arafat, Moin Khan, Taufeeq Umar and others)

I would not fast track Umar Gul - he can be made assistant coach and also put into an ECB accredited coaching program, with a goal of developing his coaching credentials for 2-3 years from now.

POTW for me.
 
A Rehman the coach, from what i know relies more on team unity and mental aspects rather than technical ones. He is a better talent scout than a coach imo.

Regarding Basit Ali, he has been in the system for over 15 years and controversies have followed him and he comes across as an ill tempered foul mouthed person. Am yet to hear a positive thing about him from any cricketer.

Don't know about Faisal Iqbal much.

Pakistan as a whole lacks domestic coaches of good repute. Our players either consider themselves too good to be putting an effort to get coaching accreditation or don't really believe in coaches.

Azhar Mahmood is a good coach but don't think he will be paid enough for a position in domestic cricket.
Yasir Arafat has earned level 2 qualification I think and seems like a level headed person and could be a good choice to invest in.

Apart from that, some people have talked highly of Sabih Azhar.

Kabir Khan, Arshad Khan, Hassan Raza, Asim Kamal could potentially make good coaches if they attain the qualifications. Kabir has done some good work already with Afghanistan.

Aizaz Cheema also looks to be a level headed guy, and could do some good if he works hard. But that is all from the outer perspective. Only time would tell if they could do well.
 
Regarding Basit Ali, the final verdict can only cone from how he lines Sindh up in the Pakistan Cup. If for e.g. he gives Asad Shafiq and Khurram Manzoor an extended run in the top 5 of this tournament, that's a massive red flag. Another would be the non inclusion of Saim Ayyub in the squad, as Sindh don't have any other good openers barring Sharjeel and Khurram (Omair Bin Yousuf is too slow for ODIs). I fully expect him to include Abrar Ahmed and Shahnawaz Dhani in the squad though.

Also, had a query for some of the posters on here:

So clearly, Yasir Arafat is doing his coaching qualifications and us well travelled. However, what are his capabilities and ideas as a coach? What's his philosophy? Not judging, generally curious...

In the same vein, why is Taufeeq Umar a relevant name as well?
 
Faisal Iqbal has done excellently with Balochistan. Very positive cricket, and he’s played something like 18 players over the course of 10 games, promoting youngsters and developing them, and being very competitive with a gang of misfits and even despite losing Yasir Shah, Kashif Bhatti, Imran Butt, and Sami Aslam in one fell swoop. They ended up placing 5th, but that hides behind it the way they played and performed.

Him, Shahid Anwar, and Abdul Razzaq were the standout coaches after Wasim this year.

Abdul Rehman has been quite underwhelming at Southern Punjab in terms of positive cricket played, and the results are only decent, but he has a wealth of experience behind him and is known to be a good coach, so I would retain him.

Basit Ali has been shockingly bad. He doesn’t promote youngsters much, gives shockingly large backing to people like Khurram Manzoor, Shehzar Mohammad, and more, failed to give Abrar Ahmed a consistent run, and I think recently played Azam Khan at number 3 if I’m not incorrect, rather than Saud Shakeel or even Asad Shafiq.

A lot of cricket played by Sindh has been defensive, and they are not just ranked 6th but a distant 6th. This is despite Omair and Sharjeel being the best opener combination in the competition, Saud being the second highest run scorer, and Asad Shafiq only recently dropped from the Test team. Between Tabish Khan, Shahnawaz Dhani, and Mir Hamza, they have one of the most exciting attacks in the tournament only after Central Punjab’s Hassan-Waqas combination. To fall short by such a large margin suggests a gross incompetence especially when one of the missing ingredients was a strike spinner, and they failed to promote people like Abrar (consistently) or Aarish Ali Khan, who didn’t even get a second XI look in.

After Sindh U19 dominated BOTH the one day and three day cups, Basit failed to promote the likes of Saim Ayub, Adeel Meo, and Aaliyan Mehmood to the second XI QeA trophy, and they finally only got a look in during the second XI one day cup. Even during this cup, Aaliyan Mehmood was ignored, and only Saim and Adeel selected.

Earlier in the national T20 cup, Asad Shafiq was played!!! during the T20 games and unsurprisingly he flopped when they needed him the most. Sohail Khan!!! batted at 5 in the semifinal. Danish Aziz had to rescue the team TWICE from situations where the top 5 had collapsed and they still didn’t promote him. Kartay kartay martay martay they made it to 3rd place in the table, but that conceals the absolutely horrible standard of cricket, Sharjeel’s failures, over reliance on Azam Khan and Danish Aziz, and failure to promote Hasan Mohsin or Hasan Khan.

For Northern, Wasim did an excellent job but has now been given the position of Chief Selector with Mohammad Masroor replacing him. Let me tell you a bit about this guy. He coached Sindh U19 to the one day and three day cups in 2019. He has a dozen age group titles from U13 to U19 for Sindh and Karachi. Here are some of the kids he’s worked with: Saud Shakeel, Mohammad Umar, Mohammad Asghar, Mohammad Taha, Aamir Ali, and Saim Ayub.

He was part of Northern’s team already this year and his promotion to head coach is well deserved. I would retain him.

In sum, my picks would be as follows:

KPK: Abdul Razzaq (retained)
Central Punjab: Shahid Anwar (retained)
Balochistan: Faisal Iqbal (retained)
Northern: Mohammad Masroor (promoted)
Southern Punjab: Abdul Rehman (retained on probation)
Sindh: ______ (interviews to be held with Yasir Arafat, Moin Khan, Taufeeq Umar and others)

I would not fast track Umar Gul - he can be made assistant coach and also put into an ECB accredited coaching program, with a goal of developing his coaching credentials for 2-3 years from now.

Detailed analysis. I agree Sindh have been massively disappointing again and Basit needs to be held accountable. However isn't the failure to promote the U19 batch to the 2nd XI on the 2nd XI coach (Tauseef Ahmed ?)

2nd XI cricket serves an important purpose of bridging U19 and FC cricket so the standard of coaching there is critical too.
 
I don't know why people praising faisal iqbal didn't see a single talent he upgraded from Balochistan.

He could have for e.g Abdul whid bangulzai was in Pakistan U-19 he could have given him FC debut as they guy looks good technically.


Apart from that Basit Ali should be replaced
 
Masroor should coach Sindh because he knows the ins and outs of upcoming talent from Sindh. He has the right coaching experience and I believe he’ll do a good job. He could be both the coach and the selector for Sindh.
Yes, and the local lad Arafat can take up the Northern
 
I don't know why people praising faisal iqbal didn't see a single talent he upgraded from Balochistan.

He could have for e.g Abdul whid bangulzai was in Pakistan U-19 he could have given him FC debut as they guy looks good technically.


Apart from that Basit Ali should be replaced

Bangalzai did play a couple for the first XI, if I m not mistaken
 
Why did sindh do so badly they had a very good bowling attack of tabish,dahani and mir hamzah.he also had the best domestic player in saud shakeel.failed to give abrar a consistant chances why didnt some of the u19 players play in the second xi.he should be shown the door but who should replace him
 
Why did sindh do so badly they had a very good bowling attack of tabish,dahani and mir hamzah.he also had the best domestic player in saud shakeel.failed to give abrar a consistant chances why didnt some of the u19 players play in the second xi.he should be shown the door but who should replace him

Any unbiased person not from sind like Taufeeq umar or Umar gul or Abdul rehman(spinner) etc
 
An update on Yasir Arafat,

He is due to complete his Level 4 coaching badges this year. He applied for the role that Saqlain Mushtaq got, but he didn't even get an interview or any response from the PCB.

He has applied for other roles in PCB but has never even been called for an interview.
 
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An update on Yasir Arafat,

He is due to complete his Level 4 coaching badges this year. He applied for the role that Saqlain Mushtaq got, but he didn't even get an interview or any response from the PCB.

He has applied for other roles in PCB but has never even been called for an interview.

Should be Sind's coach
 
He has applied for other roles in PCB but has never even been called for an interview.

Not sure whats the reason for that as Yasir Arafat always came across as a good professional and a pretty decent guy as a whole. I believe even as a bowler/ bowling all rounder he could have been utilized and played much more especially after 2010 setback.

Treatment of certain cricketers has always been mystery, maybe it has something to do with how they present themselves in front of the people in power.
 
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