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Who should be Pakistan's Test captain after Misbah-ul-Haq?

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Pakistan have two options , Sarfraz or Azhar.

Though :yk has expressed his desire to captain pakistan in tests but I don't think its going to happen.
 
Test matches, believe it or not, require the most amount of critical thinking by an athlete. Given this facet we don't really have a proper replacement for Misbah at the moment. No !!! YK, Azhar and Sarfaraz are not even remotely close to how Mohali King thinks in the longest format but - if and once Misbah decides to hang his boots the best option would be to make YK the man in charge for maybe the coming 3-4 assignments and to prepare someone under him for the handover within 1-2 years.

YK should be made aware of this, that the gig is only temporary and that they're not looking at him as a long term solution so that once the transition time comes he doesn't pull another drama like the one he pulled for ODIs :facepalm:

From there on wards one of Azhar, Sarfaraz or even Shafiq should take over the test captaincy mantle.
 
YK would be best option short term with Sarfraz been given VC role. Please dont give it to Azhar Ali!
 
sarfraz because i find Azhar's captaincy to be woeful


open to shafiq as well

but we all know that Saint Team Man will do his utmost to get it
 
I really wouldn't want Sarfraz to have a lot of burden on him by being the captain but Misbah should've groomed someone under him after all these years. He's done a lot for us in Tests but not grooming someone as the next captain is one setback. I don't think Azhar should be the next captain but I kinda have a feeling that Asad might.
 
I am someone who wants Azhar Ali to be given a long run.

I don't want Younus Khan to be given any role in our cricket. I just hope he manages to get 10K runs soon and hangs his boots without any further tantrums.
 
I don't want a stop gap kind of captain , the captain should be for long term. Asad shafiq is another choice , curious how will he actually approach captaincy. Has he captained at any level ?
 
Definitely, MYK is the best option with many away tours coming up in the next 3 years..azhar and sarfraz should gain experience from MYK being the captain...Too early to give the test captaincy to them..Away tours are always tough, with more applied pressure in captaincy their performance will drop alarmingly low... Give them captaincy when they start in UAE or pakistan again..
 
I won't mind Shafiq getting the Test captaincy.

Captaining all three formats while keeping might take its toll on Sarfraz. He's no Dhoni.

I don't care about him in ODIs and T20s, but he's gold for us in Tests when you consider the alternatives.

Unless Azhar turns things around, he's out of the reckoning now.

Hafeez and Younis are too old now, and we won't make a bowler captain. Unless we bring Fawad into the team to replace him as batsman and captain, it's between Sarfraz and Shafiq.

However, if Sarfraz does well as captain, he will be given the Test captaincy as well because looking at the bigger picture and showing vision is not something that happens in PCB HQs.
 
Azhar Ali, is a no no for me, too textbook for my liking, poor in ODI's as well. Sarfraz needs to take over as a one day captain, test future looks bleak im afraid unless they think outside the box. (wahab riaz, Muhammed Amir(dont all jump on me just a suggestion)
 
Azhar Ali captains. Not in favor of chopping and changing captains looking for inherent flair rather than developing leadership.
 
silentkiller187 said:
Azhar Ali, is a no no for me, too textbook for my liking, poor in ODI's as well. Sarfraz needs to take over as a one day captain, test future looks bleak im afraid unless they think outside the box. (wahab riaz, Muhammed Amir(dont all jump on me just a suggestion)
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Azhar Ali at least commands a spot in the odi side. Sarfaraz still has to earn it.
Tbh Sarfaraz has to earn a spot in both the odi and t20 side. Not that he doesnt have the potential.
 
Azhar has been groomed for this role people please understand. He is text book type because he has been groomed that way by his mentor Misbah.
They dont believe in taking risk 80 percent of the time and let time take its toll. Azhar will be the obvious choice with asad as VC.
Pakistan has been struggling in shorter format for a time now and its test team which is doing good. So PCB wont take any risk wiyh a new captain anyways it will go to Azhar u like him or not.
 
Pete Rose said:
Azhar Ali at least commands a spot in the odi side. Sarfaraz still has to earn it.
Tbh Sarfaraz has to earn a spot in both the odi and t20 side. Not that he doesnt have the potential.
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well he was the top score in recent asia cup t20
i dont know why u have so much hatred for sir-faraz
 
Mir jibran said:
well he was the top score in recent asia cup t20
i dont know why u have so much hatred for sir-faraz
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i have aboslutely zero hatred for sarfaraz. i have hatred for extremist mentality. we finally get rid of the clown captain and all of a sudden oh Sarfi is the answer for everything.
these experts will be gone without a trace when/if he falls.
 
World class player ... captain for both tests and odi. unless we have this, never ever expect a winning performance from your team.
Now who is a world class player in our team?

Sarfraz will be a disaster (if he was a world class keeper, then may be); Younis should simply retire; Azhar Ali, is he respected in our team?; Asad Shafiq doesnt play ODI and shouldn't; Hafeez shouldn't even be in the team (though he had a personality, distinct past).

Basically, currently it is the toughest selection.

Salman Butt would be a better choice than ahmed shehzad, umar akmal and shoaib malik.

we need a bowling captian, historically as well, we perform better with one.
 
Pete Rose said:
Azhar Ali at least commands a spot in the odi side. Sarfaraz still has to earn it.
Tbh Sarfaraz has to earn a spot in both the odi and t20 side. Not that he doesnt have the potential.
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That's one of the problem, when you make a guy Captain that is either marginally in the side or forced in to the side... To me both of them are forced into the side, they are really test only players, not versatile enough to play limited overs... Making them Captain is taking team back to 1980s style once again :((
 
yasir said:
That's one of the problem, when you make a guy Captain that is either marginally in the side or forced in to the side... To me both of them are forced into the side, they are really test only players, not versatile enough to play limited overs... Making them Captain is taking team back to 1980s style once again :((
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I have always maintained that Pakistan's odi rot is long term:
inzi and moyo were the last of the great players
then came hafeez, malik, afridi, kamran akmal - ideally they should have been handing over a successful team to a guy ready for the job.
then the wasted investment on umar akmal, ahmed shehzad
and misbah was too conservative a player in a poor batting unit.
in summary, the guys who should have stepped up post inzi/moyo did not, the wasted talented turned out to be that...hence nobody automatically commands a place in the odi side, not even a bowler.
 
Pete Rose said:
i have aboslutely zero hatred for sarfaraz. i have hatred for extremist mentality. we finally get rid of the clown captain and all of a sudden oh Sarfi is the answer for everything.
these experts will be gone without a trace when/if he falls.
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didnt u say he has to earn a place in t20 side ?
i was answering ur that question
 
Mir jibran said:
didnt u say he has to earn a place in t20 side ?
i was answering ur that question
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yeah, so he needs to continue with that...its one tournament.
having said that, people should counter that his captaincy was apparently quite courageous in the PSL - not that I followed the tournament.
 
Should be azhar ali and sarfraz as vice
Yes big point YK could only be a short term solution
 
Mir jibran said:
didnt u say he has to earn a place in t20 side ?
i was answering ur that question
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Sarfraz is not automatic selection, even today Kamran Akmal is better choice, he can open and keep...Forget about Sarfraz batting like Kamran Akmal of young (2009 time), he cannot bat like KA of today...He does not have shots nor technique to play seamers...

Azhar Ali is not a modern day LOI player, he is like Pujara, with limited shots, but good temperament...Harris Sohail/Babar Azam are better choice them him for top 3 position...

I also think one of the top3 slot can be given to somebody like Sharjeel, he can be developed like Shewag, he is not a blind slogger, he thinks like a batsmen and has lot of high quality shots (pull, cut and down the ground)... Limiting him to just T20 would be a mistake, Pakistan need to have dynamic batsmen in their line up... There is only so much of tuk tuk we can tolerate, we create too much pressure with this mindless and premeditated tuk-tuk, it has nothing to do with temperament or play according to situation, which Misbah is sell for a decade :po:
 
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People like it or not, Misbah is not going anywhere till end of Aus tour. Specially after what team has gone through in recent days
Not sure how long YK ll play as well so giving him captaincy after Misbah is not a good move, better give to someone who ll b captain for next 4-5 years
 
Pete Rose said:
yeah, so he needs to continue with that...its one tournament.
having said that, people should counter that his captaincy was apparently quite courageous in the PSL - not that I followed the tournament.
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His Captaincy was good but own performance was dud in PSL, his batting was making matters tough for his team almost all the time... He is only useful in T20 when wicket is so bad that par score is 130/140, which is not the case 70% (if not more) of the time... His strike rate is barely over 100...

As I said before we can only play one of Shezad,Malik and Sarfraz in T20 or ODI, they have very limited shots and all have very bad technique against pace...If Pakistan has to come up the ladder of LOIs, we need to man up and start playing players who can play pace and have range of shots, guys like Umar, Babar, Harris, Sharjeel (Hafeez is still ok, since he has improved in last year or so)... Only one of them can fill the middle order...
 
Azhar Ali will need to focus on his batting in the england series and adding to captaincy would only add more pressure, also his captaincy stint in ODIs was pretty recative and poor and we dont need that in test cricket
 
I hope Misbah continues to captain for the tour of England, but if for some reason he doesn't, then I would suggest Younis Khan.

The tour is a high-pressure tour, with lots of media scrutiny also and Pakistan will need an experienced campaigner to lead them and not someone who is inexperienced or a newbie when it comes to Test captaincy.
 
Saj said:
I hope Misbah continues to captain for the tour of England, but if for some reason he doesn't, then I would suggest Younis Khan.

The tour is a high-pressure tour, with lots of media scrutiny also and Pakistan will need an experienced campaigner to lead them and not someone who is inexperienced or a newbie when it comes to Test captaincy.
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Agree with your point. Beyond Misbah the player, what chance of him remaining part of the setup once he retires? Strikes me as a natural to be team coach...
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
I am someone who wants Azhar Ali to be given a long run.

I don't want Younus Khan to be given any role in our cricket. I just hope he manages to get 10K runs soon and hangs his boots without any further tantrums.
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Why such negativity towards YK?

He's the only captain after Ik to have won us an ICC trophy.
 
Pete Rose said:
I have always maintained that Pakistan's odi rot is long term:
inzi and moyo were the last of the great players
then came hafeez, malik, afridi, kamran akmal - ideally they should have been handing over a successful team to a guy ready for the job.
then the wasted investment on umar akmal, ahmed shehzad
and misbah was too conservative a player in a poor batting unit.
in summary, the guys who should have stepped up post inzi/moyo did not, the wasted talented turned out to be that...hence nobody automatically commands a place in the odi side, not even a bowler.
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Part of the problem is bits and pieces players are not good role model... Guys like Afridi, Razaq, Malik, Hafeez when become seniors youngsters cannot learn anything from them, player developed in those era would be average at best...

PCB and fans should have invested more in MoYo and YK rather than these guys... Fans are also to be blamed for glorifying Afridi, Razaq, Malik kind of players...

You can also see the Misbah effect, players developed under him are boring with too much tuk tuk and very limited shot range...
 
YK

Lol @ anyone suggesting Shafiq, he quits as a batsman, nevermind him becoming the captain.
 
yasir said:
Part of the problem is bits and pieces players are not good role model... Guys like Afridi, Razaq, Malik, Hafeez when become seniors youngsters cannot learn anything from them, player developed in those era would be average at best...

PCB and fans should have invested more in MoYo and YK rather than these guys... Fans are also to be blamed for glorifying Afridi, Razaq, Malik kind of players...

You can also see the Misbah effect, players developed under him are boring with too much tuk tuk and very limited shot range...
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It's partly down to technique as well. Shafiq has the game to be fluent in Odis as well, but perhaps he is a little too influenced by Misbahs conservatism.
 
Saj said:
I hope Misbah continues to captain for the tour of England, but if for some reason he doesn't, then I would suggest Younis Khan.

The tour is a high-pressure tour, with lots of media scrutiny also and Pakistan will need an experienced campaigner to lead them and not someone who is inexperienced or a newbie when it comes to Test captaincy.
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I have always doubted YK's people skills. So, not sure if he can handle the pressure. Notwithstanding the corruption I thought Salman Butt was managing quite well in 2010 considering it was a first tour for him and that too as an opening batman. That is to say that a young person can do the job. Although not sure how Yk would react to it.
 
Why do people continue to believe YK could be captain when he has a long history of being unable to handle the responsibility that comes with it?
 
Mamoon said:
I won't mind Shafiq getting the Test captaincy.

Captaining all three formats while keeping might take its toll on Sarfraz. He's no Dhoni.

I don't care about him in ODIs and T20s, but he's gold for us in Tests when you consider the alternatives.

Unless Azhar turns things around, he's out of the reckoning now.

Hafeez and Younis are too old now, and we won't make a bowler captain. Unless we bring Fawad into the team to replace him as batsman and captain, it's between Sarfraz and Shafiq.

However, if Sarfraz does well as captain, he will be given the Test captaincy as well because looking at the bigger picture and showing vision is not something that happens in PCB HQs.
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In that case, Rizwan can keep in LOIs (or at least T20Is).
 
ExplicitAI said:
I really wouldn't want Sarfraz to have a lot of burden on him by being the captain but Misbah should've groomed someone under him after all these years. He's done a lot for us in Tests but not grooming someone as the next captain is one setback. I don't think Azhar should be the next captain but I kinda have a feeling that Asad might.
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Afridi groomed Shehzad and you can see the result [emoji16]

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Want Misbah to captain in Eng tour. If he backs out then Younis Khan.

Azhar Ali for the long term. Sarfaraz VC.
 
Sarfraz. And it will be a blessing in disguise for Pakistan if Misbah retires before the England tour. I really want him to retire immediately. I expect a sensible decision from a disciplined person like Misbah. Overstretching his career will make him no different than Afridi.
 
If Misbah backs out of the England tour than YK should takeover temporarily, for long term either sarfraz or Wahab.
 
All 3 formats. Hafeez should captain for 3 years and Babar should be groomed under him. Have to think about the future plus Hafeez will be able to bowl soon
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Sarfraz. And it will be a blessing in disguise for Pakistan if Misbah retires before the England tour. I really want him to retire immediately. I expect a sensible decision from a disciplined person like Misbah. Overstretching his career will make him no different than Afridi.
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Agreed. Misbah should have been retired by now. On topic. Younis khan should be the captain until Australia tour.
 
I hope Misbahs stays atleast till the Aus tour. If he doesnt, I would make YK captain for short term till the Aus tour with Sarfraz or Shafiq as VC.
 
Azhar Al is already vice captain, so obviously captaincy would be his. Although if it was done to my choice it would be Asad Shafiq.
 
Probably YK.

You don't want to throw Sarfraz into the deep end. Same goes for Azhar Ali to be honest.
 
Azhar Ali will be struggling to starve off Broad, Anderson and co and trying to score runs, the last thing you want is a player scratching around for form as skipper as the lack of confidence in a player will transmit through the team.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
sarfraz because i find Azhar's captaincy to be woeful


open to shafiq as well

but we all know that Saint Team Man will do his utmost to get it
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If captaincy is given to shafiq he will try to make his way in the LOI set up.
 
Convince Shahid bhai to come out of retirement. He'll be good enough to captain for an innings or a half.
 
Big Mac said:
Why do people continue to believe YK could be captain when he has a long history of being unable to handle the responsibility that comes with it?
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like winning the WC when the dressing room was divided in groups? :23: that would not count :yk
 
It will most likely be Azhar. I don't think Sarfraz can captain in Tests. Shafiq should be vice captain.
Azhar is being groomed right now under Misbah, I think he will improve as captain. Misbah will be gone 9 months from now, Younis is probably going to hang around for another 2 years until 2018. I can see Younis being made captain for a year before he retires (peacefully and without trouble hopefully) and then they will see if they give it to Azhar or someone else.

Azhar hasn't exactly been a good limited overs captain so far but he's smart, let's see if he improves.
 
srh said:
like winning the WC when the dressing room was divided in groups? :23: that would not count :yk
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So let's list the for and against.

For

  • Was captain when we won a mickey mouse tournament

Against

  • Threw his toys out of the pram and cried about being a "dummy captain" even though he was just a taking charge for a couple of weeks while Inzi was suspended.
  • Resigned, only to come back when the PCB chairman was replaced.
  • Younis Khan, despite being vice captain and groomed for the captaincy for years, refused the captaincy after Inzi's retirement because fans were upset after the World Cup exit and he couldn't handle the pressure. Shoaib Malik ended up getting the job at a stage of his career where he wasn't prepared for the job and the results were predictably disastrous for both the team and Malik's career.
  • He finally accepted the captaincy in 2009. To the surprise of nobody, he
    couldn't make it to the end of the year before resigning again because someone hurt his feelings. Led to Yousuf being appointed as captain, we all know how that turned out.
  • Let's not forget that time he turned off his mobile phone and went AWOL on a fishing trip when the PCB was trying to get in touch with him about going on tour down under just because he was sulking.



That's just the stuff I can remember off the top of my head. Yeah, that's exactly who we need to be leading the team. A guy who is too emotional and spits his dummy out the moment things don't go entirely his own way or he faces criticism.

Let him concentrate on batting, he's bloody good at that. Leave the captaincy to someone else, anyone else, because Younis is bloody useless at that.
 
Shafiq is too mentally weak to be captain.

They'll probably give it to Sarfraz, but they should give it to someone unconventional, someone who will catch England off guard...

that man is...


Messi :yasir

Like his idol Warne, I think this guy is a thinking cricketer. Gives 0 damns, and takes risks. He'll know about field placings etc, and I think will bring a nothing to lose everything to gain attitude like Kiwis brought to us in the desert.

People will disagree but I think Yasir is the guy.
 
Big Mac said:
So let's list the for and against.

For

  • Was captain when we won a mickey mouse tournament

Against

  • Threw his toys out of the pram and cried about being a "dummy captain" even though he was just a taking charge for a couple of weeks while Inzi was suspended.
  • Resigned, only to come back when the PCB chairman was replaced.
  • Younis Khan, despite being vice captain and groomed for the captaincy for years, refused the captaincy after Inzi's retirement because fans were upset after the World Cup exit and he couldn't handle the pressure. Shoaib Malik ended up getting the job at a stage of his career where he wasn't prepared for the job and the results were predictably disastrous for both the team and Malik's career.
  • He finally accepted the captaincy in 2009. To the surprise of nobody, he
    couldn't make it to the end of the year before resigning again because someone hurt his feelings. Led to Yousuf being appointed as captain, we all know how that turned out.
  • Let's not forget that time he turned off his mobile phone and went AWOL on a fishing trip when the PCB was trying to get in touch with him about going on tour down under just because he was sulking.



That's just the stuff I can remember off the top of my head. Yeah, that's exactly who we need to be leading the team. A guy who is too emotional and spits his dummy out the moment things don't go entirely his own way or he faces criticism.

Let him concentrate on batting, he's bloody good at that. Leave the captaincy to someone else, anyone else, because Younis is bloody useless at that.
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LOL for real?

Not surprised though. His ODI career has been 1 big AWOL as well.
 
Sarfraz. Azhar has been woeful whenever he has been given the role, be it domestics or internationals. Sarfraz has delivered in the U19 worldcup, and wasn't too bad in PSL. A single captain in all formats has greater influence, although I doubt if Sarfraz has it in him to stick it to the higher authorities when the need arises. In addition, having a wicket keeper as a captain can have the added benefit of the captain always being in the line of sight of the bowler, which is good for last minute decisions.
 
Suleiman said:
LOL for real?

Not surprised though. His ODI career has been 1 big AWOL as well.
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Yep, it was before Pakistan toured New Zealand and Australia, (The tour that Yousuf was captain for, with the infamous Sydney test).

iirc Younus was still in a mood after his resignation so he went on an indefinite break, the PCB couldn't get in touch with him and he missed the tour of New Zealand and the tests against Australia. He didn't come back until the test series was done and the ODI series started.
 
I think broad will be more difficult for Pakistan this time around. Bulk of our scoring will be done by yk misbah and asad.
 
I think Asad Shafiq should be given a chance. He has been the most under-rated Pakistani test player. Most probably he would be the part of Pak test team for a long time. Given his fine technique and ability to hit sixes, I would have even preferred him in the T20 world cup in place of Khalid Latief and many others. Azhar Ali has not proved himself as a leader. Sarfaraz is yet to prove anything substantial, both as a batsman or as a captain.
 
There goes Azhar ali test captaincy....!!!!!

Reason No 1: Pcb chairman Shahryar khan today statement shows that Azhar ali is not going to take

captaincy after Msibah Retirement as they requested misbah to continuous captaincy till 2018

Reason No 2: if Misbah decide to Take retirement After Aus test series than After that series Pakistan

is going to Lose 5-0 or 4-1 to Aus in Odi series which will bring Azhar ali captaincy to End

Tough tough Days ahead for Azhar ali
 
Misbah and Azhar are timid cricketers they've ruined the fighting spirit that our team once had. The next captain should be an aggressive fighter like Sarfraz or Imad or Sohail Khan.
 
saeed5646 said:
There goes Azhar ali test captaincy....!!!!!

Reason No 1: Pcb chairman Shahryar khan today statement shows that Azhar ali is not going to take

captaincy after Msibah Retirement as they requested misbah to continuous captaincy till 2018

Reason No 2: if Misbah decide to Take retirement After Aus test series than After that series Pakistan

is going to Lose 5-0 or 4-1 to Aus in Odi series which will bring Azhar ali captaincy to End

Tough tough Days ahead for Azhar ali
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SK has loose mouth. He change his speech base on situation. Can't trust this guy
He will not sack Azhar for ODI loss for sure. He will give statements until situation gets cool
 
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Misbah should retire after Aussie series seriously we can't afford to have such a timid captain with limited abilities.
 
yasir said:
What's wrong with him??
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It would be much faster if we'd count the positives in his captaincy stint....
Explaining the negatives would require too much time and effort to type in the entire details !!
 
Shafi said:
SK has loose mouth. He change his speech base on situation. Can't trust this guy
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Reason No 2: if Misbah decide to Take retirement After Aus test series than After that series Pakistan

is going to Lose 5-0 or 4-1 to Aus in Odi series which will bring Azhar ali captaincy to End
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what about this ??your thoughts
 
I think Azhar should be Test Captain after Misbah.
 
saeed5646 said:
There goes Azhar ali test captaincy....!!!!!

Reason No 1: Pcb chairman Shahryar khan today statement shows that Azhar ali is not going to take

captaincy after Msibah Retirement as they requested misbah to continuous captaincy till 2018

Reason No 2: if Misbah decide to Take retirement After Aus test series than After that series Pakistan

is going to Lose 5-0 or 4-1 to Aus in Odi series which will bring Azhar ali captaincy to End

Tough tough Days ahead for Azhar ali
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Well ODI is different beast, Misbah never had good ODI results past chucking era... We were loosing left and right as soon as we loose Ajmal and Hafeez in ODIs, even in Asia...

In test Pakistan formula is build around blunting in batting and drying up with spin. It does not work everywhere but works enough to get consistent results. Azhar is big part of that strategy not just that he has executed that in tough times better than Misbah. Misbah and YK play well in Asia, Azhar plays well not only in Asia but overseas...

I don't see how we can blame Azhar for upcoming loss in AUS or last test. If anything he will help save matches, like he almost did today... Yesterday's match is on YK and Shafiq. The reason opener and Sarfraz took risk because they thought YK and Shafiq can blunt 20 overs, last 1.5 hour, which they did not...There were three batters, two of them pack like tailunders in 2 overs :facepalm:

MGMT and PCB has to show trust in Azhar in long format, he has been our best batter in testing conditions for some time
 
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