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Who should be the next bowling coach for Pakistan after Morne Morkel's departure?

Who should be the next bowling coach for Pakistan after Morne Morkel's departure?

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As per a news item, Umar Gul will fill in for the tour of Australia but surly there are other names that must be in contention?
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Yasir is a qualified level coach isn't he.
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Yeah you are right actually but he is quite inexperienced.

Coaching the Pakistan team at the moment ( esp if Aus is included) is a suicide mission. They need someone with experience and authority.

Perhaps Yasir in combination with Wasim or Shoaib ( they would be more mentors) could work.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Yeah you are right actually but he is quite inexperienced.

Coaching the Pakistan team at the moment ( esp if Aus is included) is a suicide mission. They need someone with experience and authority.

Perhaps Yasir in combination with Wasim or Shoaib ( they would be more mentors) could work.
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Wasim and Shoaib are good shout but there ego will not let them take over that role unfortunately.
Wasim Akram actually should be made PCB Chairman for 4-5 years. Give him good salary and ask results from him.
 
I really want Mitchell Johnson as Pakistan's bowling coach. I am sure he can set our bowling in the right direction. Unfortunately, he is not coaching any team professionally.

My second option would be Vernon Philander, under his coaching, I have seen some serious fireworks from our bowling unit.
 
It should be a desi so that even young players can communicate well.
 
I will go with Yasir as he has coaching credentials.Shaoib could be a good choice but he's not professional enough and will constantly cause trouble.
 
I recommend Ashish Nehra; he won the IPL trophy for GT with his exceptional coaching skills.
PCB should try him, at least as a virtual coach.
 
Has Wasim ever coached Pak cricket team ? If not , what are the reasons? Is it they can't afford him or he is not interested?
 
FearlessRoar said:
He said, he doesn't have temperament to do coaching for Pakistan
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oh just came to know about this, he is not ok with captain and coach being abused on social media. But didn't he make fun of Saud Shakeel's body posture and Imam's face on national team? Pak ex- cricketers are disgrace to their nation.
 
It’s got to be a local coach like Yasser or if they are brave which they should be to light up the fire in the belly of our bowlers go for Donald
 
How about finding someone like Paras Mhambre from Pakistan domestic circle? People who played a lot of domestic cricket are well admired by young boys playing now and domestic guys can put extra efforts as they were not on there at international level.
 
Me, I'll set things straight. You will see an unbeatable team under my guidance and tutelage
 
Shoaib akhtar will be nothing more than a cheerleader and a ticking time waiting to explode same say younis as a coach is also a volatile character .

I would stick with umar gul and arafat as 2 bowling coaches

Mushtaq ahmed to help the spinners

And bring misbah as the head coach .

As for foreigners they will want insane amounts of money + won't commit to staying in pakistan or with the team for extended periods we saw that with mickey and hayden as batting consultant and even shaun tait .
 
I feel we simply don't have the right personnel as far as bowlers are concerned.
 
Has to be Shaiby, he’s the only guy that can put his authority over our bowlers.

Have him around Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf and you’ll see a different bowling attack. Shaheen with long hair, Naseem with the silver necklace spitting in the direction of the batsman, Rauf with a run up starting beyond the 30 yard circle.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
What about Wasim Akram? Instead of looking for outsiders, why don't PCB try him?
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Wasim would never take the job.

Look what happened to Waqar. Whatever you say he tried his best for the country. The fans tore him and his legacy to pieces.

Wasim is still considered a legend in Pakistan. He would only have to be our bowling coach for a few months before he'd be callled 'useless' 'overhyped' 'clueless' and Allah knows what else.

Wasim is quite comfortable as things are and Pakistan does not deserve his services.
 
You could get the best coach in the world and it wouldn't matter if you keep selecting terrible bowlers
 
Azhar Mahmood. He is done the job before and played alot of white ball cricket. Can speak good English so could be useful with foreign data analysts.
 
Allan Donald has a good run with Bangladesh as a coach. He can surely be the one to be considered but i as he is working with them he might not be available. Shaun tait can be a good option too. We had a good outing with philander, I wonder why he is not being considered.
 
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Donald is leaving his stint with Bangladesh after the World Cup. Under his tutelage, Taskin and Shoriful came on leaps and bounds. He's the best option.
 
While speaking during a local event Umar Gul said:

“Pakistan Cricket Board hasn't contacted me yet for the bowling coach role, it will be an honour for me if I am appointed as the bowling coach of the Pakistan team."
 
I hope it's a Pakistani.

Someone who will work with the players all year round.
 
Depends if we want to think short term for the Australian test series or longer term for the T20 WC.

I prefer tests and would like to see us do well for once down under, so Donald would be the best option for that, since he did fairly well when he bowled there. But records suggest that we will get trampled and a good coach might just be damage control.

We have a much better record in T20 WCs. SF, a final and next year we can try and go one better and win our second title. Gul would be great for this purpose as he was a great T20 bowler, or maybe Otis Gibson for more specific advice on Windies pitches.
Personally I would like to see Gul in the role as I think we will do better thinking in the long term.
 
Bharat Arun
Paras Mhambrey
Ashish Nehra

They will make great coaches. They also know the language.

Problem is that none of them are great international bowlers.

Pakistani ex cricketers will hold onto that one point and ridicule them.

That's a big reason why none of them will ever work for Pakistan.

Jason Gillespie is a v good option.

Then there is Charl Langeveltd.

Otis Gibson and Donald are other options.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Bharat Arun
Paras Mhambrey
Ashish Nehra

They will make great coaches. They also know the language.

Problem is that none of them are great international bowlers.

Pakistani ex cricketers will hold onto that one point and ridicule them.

That's a big reason why none of them will ever work for Pakistan.

Jason Gillespie is a v good option.

Then there is Charl Langeveltd.

Otis Gibson and Donald are other options.
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Exactly. 100% right on the point about ridiculing.

Our pundits will think they are inferior because of their lack of international cricket. Even our fans will.

But I dont think any Indian would coach Pakistan. They would get hounded at home.
 
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Sadly the options are limited for bowling coach and we may have to.settle for one out of Aqib Waqar Azhar or Gul
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bharat Arun
Paras Mhambrey
Ashish Nehra

They will make great coaches. They also know the language.

Problem is that none of them are great international bowlers.

Pakistani ex cricketers will hold onto that one point and ridicule them.

That's a big reason why none of them will ever work for Pakistan.

Jason Gillespie is a v good option.

Then there is Charl Langeveltd.

Otis Gibson and Donald are other options.
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This ego is a massive reason for the regress of Pakistan. There is nothing wrong in hiring Indian coaches , but they will never do. If Pakistan had placed country interest first , ideally Pakistan could have hired a Indian Ranji n batting coach. It would have been good decision. Also , Bharat Arun.

But sometimes you have too big ego to do these things.
 
After serious analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Pakistani bowlers have all the skills and talent in the world but they lack jazba, dileri, badmashi and jaanbaazi.

Considering the above, it’s an obvious pick.

Khunne kholna hai to choice ek hi hai
 
Yasir Arafat is a level 4 coach in UK and he is the right person. He needs to be appointed at NCA atleast if not as bowling coach of national team. Coaching is an art. You may be the best cricketer but doesn't make you the best teacher. Even India have Vikram Rathore and Para Mambhrey as batting and bowling coaches. Both of whom have not played much international cricket.
 
Yasir Arafat or Azhar Mahmood.

I still think Azhar Mahmood was the best bowling coach we've had in the last 7-8 years. He developed Hasan from a skinny, little trundler when he first came on the scene in 2016, to a decent bowler who was consistently in the late 130's to early 140's before injuries took over. I thought Shaheen also made visible improvements under him.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bharat Arun
Paras Mhambrey
Ashish Nehra

They will make great coaches. They also know the language.

Problem is that none of them are great international bowlers.

Pakistani ex cricketers will hold onto that one point and ridicule them.

That's a big reason why none of them will ever work for Pakistan.

Jason Gillespie is a v good option.

Then there is Charl Langeveltd.

Otis Gibson and Donald are other options.
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i would love to have Kumble holding a coaching position in PCB. but it becomes very difficult for Indians to accept the job at PCB regardless of money. (They would get abused by home fans more for accepting a job in pak)
 
Chip32 said:
Yasir Arafat or Azhar Mahmood.

I still think Azhar Mahmood was the best bowling coach we've had in the last 7-8 years. He developed Hasan from a skinny, little trundler when he first came on the scene in 2016, to a decent bowler who was consistently in the late 130's to early 140's before injuries took over. I thought Shaheen also made visible improvements under him.
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I also thought we bowled well under Azhar.

I don’t understand the need to get rid of bowling coaches. What does one do that is drastically better than another at this level?

You aren’t looking to make many technical adjustments. You are more making sure you get the most out of what you’ve got.

Isn’t the best way to do that by giving a bowling or batting coach a nice long stint to get to know his players fully?
 
Might as well have Hafeez have a go. He’s already doing one job he has no experience with. At least he bowled off-spin.
 
I'd just go for any professionally qualified pace bowling coach in County circuit, Sheffield Shield or NZ's domestic circuit regardless of his name or playing record. I'll name a few here.
Andre Adams
Adam Griffith
Mark Divin
Graham Onions
 
BunnyRabbit said:
i would love to have Kumble holding a coaching position in PCB. but it becomes very difficult for Indians to accept the job at PCB regardless of money. (They would get abused by home fans more for accepting a job in pak)
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Kumble isn't going to be possible.

But Bharat Arun is 60 plus and hence won't get a BCCI job anymore. Also he isn't a well known player. So backlash may be very limited.

But he is in demand in the IPL. PCB have to pay through their nose to get him.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Exactly. 100% right on the point about ridiculing.

Our pundits will think they are inferior because of their lack of international cricket. Even our fans will.

But I dont think any Indian would coach Pakistan. They would get hounded at home.
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Arun is an option Pakistanis can look at.

He can't hold a BCCI post anymore and he isn't a big fan figure so he may accept the job.

Problem is he will need time, he took nearly a year to sort out issues with the Indian team.

Will PCB give him that time?

Will ex Pakistani players who have vested interests let him work in peace?

And above all, will an Indian Hindu be acceptable?
 
BunnyRabbit said:
i would love to have Kumble holding a coaching position in PCB. but it becomes very difficult for Indians to accept the job at PCB regardless of money. (They would get abused by home fans more for accepting a job in pak)
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It is the ex-Pakistani cricketers who would abuse him more, especially given his religion.
 
why dont PCB try wasim akram as a bowling coach?

Might be some personal issues for sure!

He is one of the best bowler of this era but still PCB not getting any benefit from his experience.
 
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Cricket Warrior said:
why dont PCB try wasim akram as a bowling coach?

Might be some personal issues for sure!

He is one of the best bowler of this era but still PCB not getting any benefit from his experience.
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He is awful don't want him anywhere near pak team as a coach. Just look at Karachi kings he have done nothing with that team for last 5 years and waqar Younis was a total flop as a coach you don't want a great to be a bowling coach.
 
As per a social media report, Yasir Arafat is being lined up as a high performance coach for Pakistan T20 side.
 
Well Wasim Akram would be a good option only if he could suppress his ego and accept this role.
 

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Pakistan's bowling coach Ashley Noffke shared following thoughts in a media talk today:​


Preparation for Tri-Nation Series and Conditions​

"Preparation has been good. We’ve had time to study the conditions and get used to the heat. It’s incredibly hot here."

"In terms of preparing Shaheen, Harris, Hassan, and all the bowlers, they have been really honest about what they want to improve and what their strengths are."

"We’ve been trying to balance those two aspects. They’ve been very good—getting better and better—and we’re building nicely."

Importance of Training Camp​

"Absolutely. No matter what level of cricket you play, just training in the nets won’t give you the opportunity to truly build and develop your game."

"Being able to spend time out in the middle, preparing as a team, fielding as a team, and bowling as a team is really important."

"Of course, batting has various elements, but being out here, bowling and fielding as a team is really, really beneficial."

Spinner vs Bowler Focus for Asia Cup and Tri-Nation​

"It’s about assessing what we see each day because every pitch can be subtly different, and the wear on it can vary significantly."

"It’s hard to answer holistically. From a distance, you can already see how the head coach and selectors are picking the team."

"There is currently a bit more focus on spin, but that doesn’t mean it will always stay that way."

"The conditions and pitch characteristics ultimately dictate selection."

"We are building a squad so the head coach, captain, and selectors can pick the right team for the conditions on any given day."

Thoughts on Shaheen Afridi​

"You can definitely assume he’s a threat—his career stats are really impressive."

"That said, he still has areas to improve and develop to reach the superstar level he aspires to."

"He’s doing really well."

"But we are building a squad full of bowlers who don’t rely on just one person. As a country, we need four or five good bowlers, not just one."

"Sharing knowledge, helping each other, and developing our skills is essential. We can’t keep doing the same thing; we have to evolve our skills going forward in T20 cricket."

Comments on Scoring and Pitch Conditions​

"I think the conditions were different the other night. The pitch was slower, so the scores tended to come down."

"The ball doesn’t come onto the bat as well, which results in lower scoring."

"As we continue into the Tri-Nations and Asia Cup, I expect the wickets to be faster, and we’ll likely see that again tonight."

"The pitch has had a bit more preparation and looks harder now, so scores will probably rise again."

"Normally, scores depend largely on the condition of the pitch and the outfield."

Views on Young Talents Salman Mirza and Hassan Nawaz​

"Yes, they’re exciting both with bat and ball."

"We have young, exciting batters who are learning their craft."

"They will make mistakes from time to time, but that’s part of the learning process and becoming the players they want to be."

"So, the batting prospects are really exciting. On the bowling side, although not necessarily young in age, they are young in international exposure."

"We have some very talented young players."

"We’ve already seen Mir and Danyal come into the team and perform well."

"We want more of that. We want Pakistan to showcase more of its talent."

On Squad Balance for Asia Cup​

"Yes, absolutely. The selectors, captain, and coach have all picked this squad because we believe it’s the best for the task ahead."

Helping Shaheen Afridi with Speed and Swing​

"I think swing can be influenced by the environment and conditions on the day. The ball sometimes swings and sometimes doesn’t."

"From my perspective, he won’t swing the ball every game, but we want him to work on that ability—to swing the ball."

"Whether it swings in or out is his choice, but we want him to consistently challenge the stumps."

"We’ve seen how dangerous he is when the ball swings into the right-hander."

"He’s been working heavily on that lately."

"In terms of pace, he is aware it has dropped and he has experienced a dip in form."

"Recovering pace takes time, but we’re building nicely now."

"We’ve started seeing more balls in the 140 kph range during the West Indies series."

"He’s definitely on his way back and his confidence is growing."

"There’s a bit of technique, mindset, and a good release point involved, all of which are crucial for bowlers presenting their best."
 
Good to hear! A strong Pakistan side is more exciting to face and brings about an even contest that’s exciting for the fans as well. One sided games are good for boasting and getting one up on the other side, but none of that can beat the excitement of a great, close game on the field.
 
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