Who would you want in your T20I, ODI or Test team - Mohammad Rizwan or Rishabh Pant?

[MenInG]

A 100 when the rest of the team scored 70 - Pant has the ability to take the attack to the opposition

Mohammad Rizwan - can grind it out and is worth his weight in gold for Pakistan as he has shown in the shorter formats of the game

So who would you want in your T20I, ODI or Test team - Mohammad Rizwan or Rishabh Pant?



Mohammad Rizwan






Rishabh Pant

 

[Ab Fan]

I would prefer picking both in my team. But if I have to pick only one then,

T20Is - If I have a world class anchor already in my team, then I will pick Pant. If I have mostly hitters but they are hitters just go namesake but actually hacks( Munro types), then I will pick Rizwan.

ODIs - Not sure but probably Pant. Because I can play him anywhere and he is a lefty too.

Tests - Has to be Pant. Don't go with numbers. He has mostly played tough series only and away from home and his impact is amazing. Rizwan's problem is that he is atleast five years older than Pant and his runs tally is currently lower than Pant. He seems to be good for 60s-70s mostly.

All said and done, in Test Cricket, between Rizwan and Dhoni, I will definitely pick Rizwan.

 

[sweep_shot]

Pant has achieved more in Test while Rizwan has achieved more in LOI.

For LOI, I prefer Rizwan.

For Test, I prefer Pant.

 

[PakPremi]

Are you also considering wicket keeping ability, if that is the case then Rizwan for all three formats. Otherwise in Tests Pants edges it, but Rizwan in ODIs and T20s.

 

[Colt]

We can keep comparing stats across formats all day but their primary job is that of a keeper and that's where Rizwan is way ahead in the pecking order.

It must be embarrassing watching a corpulent keeper keep claiming bump ball catches this series for Indian fans, weight gain has severely hampered his ability behind the stumps.

Pant's batting is Afridi-esq and will fire once every 5-6 matches, I'd rather have the dependable Rizwan who can up the ante when its required.

Rizzo will go down as Pakistans best chaser, mark my words.

 

[Last Monetarist]

I'd have Pant in all 3 formats, even though Rizwan is clearly ahead statistically in T20 cricket. Unfortunately, I'd rather pick a player that passes the eye test to minimize regret. I also think that Pant would arguably match Rizwan's returns if he was asked to open the innings in white ball cricket.

Ultimately, Pant's performances in difficult conditions in Test cricket simply can't be ignored, as that's the only format that I honestly care about. If his wicketkeeping hadn't improved, I'd have thought differently.

 

[Major]

Rizwan all formats. Pant isnt even good enough to be mentioned along with Rizwan

 

[Devadwal]

Rizwan all formats. Pant isnt even good enough to be mentioned along with Rizwan

Rizwan only can dream what pant achieved in his shorts career. Rizwan can score anything in useless form of cricket ( T20 ) .this is only due to he open the innings .let's Pant start open for india then you will get to know . Rizwan is basically leg side hack nothing else

 

[Buffet]

I'd have Pant in all 3 formats, even though Rizwan is clearly ahead statistically in T20 cricket. Unfortunately, I'd rather pick a player that passes the eye test to minimize regret. I also think that Pant would arguably match Rizwan's returns if he was asked to open the innings in white ball cricket.

Ultimately, Pant's performances in difficult conditions in Test cricket simply can't be ignored, as that's the only format that I honestly care about. If his wicketkeeping hadn't improved, I'd have thought differently.

+1 to the bold.

He has improved a ton as a keeper and he is so young still. Pant has played some knocks in test format which most players don't play in their entire career. All that despite playing mostly in very tough conditions for batting.

 

[Rana]

Pant in all 3 over Rizwan

 

[GudduBadmash]

Pant not fit to lace the shoes of Rizwan

Even their domestic stats, Rizwan is well ahead

 

[Extra_Cover]

Personally I would pick Rizwan for Pakistan across all 3 formats.

Pakistan has had its share of impact players over the years from Afridi, Razzak, Mehmood, Akmal, Akhtar, etc. Since 90s we have been in a situation where we pinned our hopes onto an impact player. I can remember countless times hearing "Now comes Afridi/Razzak/etc, if he fires today then we surely are winning this one". One thing that has been consistent across all these set of impact players Pakistan had was that they were inconsistent. This is the reason why Pakistan has always been an inconsistent team reliant on impactful players. I would say Pant fall in the same category of impact players. I'm not denying the fact that he already has some of the most outlandish innings played by an Asian cricketer in SENA conditions but he is an "impact" player and is prone to inconsistency as has already been showcased in his short career so far.

An impact player like Pant fits well into a consistent/settled/winning team rather than an inconsistent team like Pakistan. For example, Symonds for Australia had luxury to go for his shots as he was assured that like of Bevan, Bichel, etc would see the team home hence Symonds had a good career however a player like Symonds would not fit into a team like lets say WI where him being talented carried more weightage to finish the games as he did not had luxury of consistent finishers coming after him. Similarly, Pant at the moment is working with a settled team under the backing of Kohli and hence can be a little inconsistent. It would be good to see how his career shapes after he becomes a more senior member of the team and has to shoulder more responsibilities.

For an inconsistent team like Pakistan, Rizwan is gold. Pakistan has always longed for consistent run makers across formats and here we found someone who can also keep wickets. On top of that his clean attitude and down to earth personality would ensure his career remains controversy free which is also gold for a team like Pakistan where success gets to head pretty soon for cricketers.

Therefore, as this is a subjective argument i.e. who is better than who. I can say with assurance that Rizwan is better for Pakistan cricket.

 

[krazystrong]

Rizwan wipes the floor with Pant in all 3 formats. With bat and keeping gloves. The only blemish for Rizwan is his ODI record, but he was caught in a little bit of bad form against Zimbabwe last year, career is still young, he looked good in the 3rd ODI in England, so I have no doubts that record will improve greatly when we start playing ODIs again.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Pant and its not even close..

Rizwan is very limited also in his range of shots, it seems he wants to aim the ball mostly towards the leg side when batting, seems to struggle on the offside etc for some reason.....

It is unfortunate that the Indian top order was so pathetic against SA, otherwise he would have have played a match winning innings.. Having played match winning innings in AUS & SA (if India did win) would have been no easy feat..

Rizwan has not had this kind of impact in test cricket, he is just an avg player with limited ability imo...

 

[Cric1234]

+1 to the bold.

He has improved a ton as a keeper and he is so young still. Pant has played some knocks in test format which most players don't play in their entire career. All that despite playing mostly in very tough conditions for batting.

Today was the only time he’s made a big score in tougher conditions in Australia the conditions were not tough the lower order batsmen were batting with ease.

 

[Cric1234]

For Rizwan it’s tough the Pakistan team is pathetic outside Asia the batting and bowling are both close to minnow level in SENA while India are more competitive and have won a few series in SENA.

Rizwan isn’t an impact player like Pant but has a better record outside Asia Australia apart a decent gritty lower order batsmen but having to play with a weak top order and bowlers who struggle to take 20 wickets to win matches in SENA.

 

[shamaan]

As a keeper batesman then Rizwan is miles ahead.
If its just based upon batting then I'd stil say Rizwan just.

 

[Abdurmirr]

I'd take Pant over Rizwan.

Even currently Rizwan is Pakistan's most clutch and impactful player, Pant has the ability to win not just matches but series as demonstrated in Australia and India last year.

Rizwan may be much more consistent and may have performed in tough conditions (NZ and ENG), however even with all the runs he scored, none of them helped garner any sort of positive result for Pakistan and most of his runs ended up coming in pretty heavy defeats.

Compare that to Pant who just last year dominated a bowling line up of Starc, Hazzlewood, Cummins plus Lyon and ultimately those runs helped India seal a series win in Australia (and as we're seeing with England that's not very easy to do). Plus it's hard to forget about his ton vs Eng last year and his 100 vs SA yesterday.

All in all not a fair comparison. If Rizwan could be slotted into the Indian line up it would be in competition with Rahane,Iyer and Vihari for the number 5 slot

 

[DRsohail]

Rizwan all formats if we consider keeping too☝����

 

[DRsohail]

I'd take Pant over Rizwan.

Even currently Rizwan is Pakistan's most clutch and impactful player, Pant has the ability to win not just matches but series as demonstrated in Australia and India last year.

Rizwan may be much more consistent and may have performed in tough conditions (NZ and ENG), however even with all the runs he scored, none of them helped garner any sort of positive result for Pakistan and most of his runs ended up coming in pretty heavy defeats.

Compare that to Pant who just last year dominated a bowling line up of Starc, Hazzlewood, Cummins plus Lyon and ultimately those runs helped India seal a series win in Australia (and as we're seeing with England that's not very easy to do). Plus it's hard to forget about his ton vs Eng last year and his 100 vs SA yesterday.

All in all not a fair comparison. If Rizwan could be slotted into the Indian line up it would be in competition with Rahane,Iyer and Vihari for the number 5 slot

You win as a team, Indian bolwers are winning matches not Batsman.

 

[Abdurmirr]

You win as a team, Indian bolwers are winning matches not Batsman.

Pant's innings in Sydney and Brisbane where both in run chases of 300+. In those circumstances it's the batsmen who were helping India produce positive results and in both those chases, Pant had the biggest impact. In Ahmedabad vs Eng he took India from 94-4 to 365, ensuring a series win. Just in the last year he has played 3 clutch knocks against strong opposition in tough conditions.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Really depends on the merit of the team batting.
If the team consists of stable batting order i will go with pant otherwise Rizwan will be my choice.

 

[JaDed]

It will depend upon the team combination, they are not Sachin or Wasim that they will make all the format in playing xi.

I don’t see putting Pant in T20 for now. Rizwan haven’t seen enough in tests to make a call..

 

[pillionrider]

While conceding that Rizwan is currently better in white-ball cricket, I would still pick Pant in all formats, even in my worst nightmare

 

[DRsohail]

Pant's innings in Sydney and Brisbane where both in run chases of 300+. In those circumstances it's the batsmen who were helping India produce positive results and in both those chases, Pant had the biggest impact. In Ahmedabad vs Eng he took India from 94-4 to 365, ensuring a series win. Just in the last year he has played 3 clutch knocks against strong opposition in tough conditions.

I told you even for impact you need other tesmt members to step up.We even did not get twenty wickets on away tours.

 

[RamLakhan]

If Pant is playing for Pakistan and Rizwan is playing for India (if that is what gives a fair & best way to judge a player's caliber), then Pant will be the most dependable batsman in the team (Probably will open in LOIs) and become their captain in next 3-4 years time. While Rizwan may have to compete with Saha & co. Rizwan may get picked in Tests, but team may think twice to play with 5 bowlers anymore (at least in overseas). In LOIs it may get difficult for him to compete with Kishan or even Sanju Samson or we may prefer Rahul to keep. The pressure will be totally different while playing in Indian environment. So not sure how he handles that pressure. Pant may be at ease in Pakistan scheme of things (play a lot of lower tier games against WI, Bangladesh, etc on slow UAE pitches which suits him and not much challenge in SENA countries where he gets to play like 2 tests in each series).

So its really difficult and futile comparing players head to head based on what stats they possess because stats are dependent on various conditions. The only better way to compare them is the kind of "impact" they provide to their respective sides!

 

[Major]

Rizwan will always be better than pants

 

[shamaan]

Pant is excellent but Rizwan is on another level.

 

[Villager6964]

Rizwan is the best wicketkeeper batsman in the world right now in all formats.

 

[Saurav]

T20 - Rizwan (only as opener)
Test - Pant
ODIs - Both underwhelming but so far Pant

 

[Arsal_AK]

In tests, I wouldn't pick any keeper batsman over Rizwan at the moment.

 

[The lone Ranger]

In test cricket ofcourse It's none other than Pant as his match winning gabba knock alone puts him miles ahead. But in limited overs Rizwan as he has done so well so far in T20Is.

 

[Pakhs]

In a good batting line up Pant as he will give me a big innings every now and then but also fall on low scores a lot.

On a dodgy batting line its Rizwan every day.

 

[ArabKnight]

I would say Rizwan, only because Pant is ruled out from all cricket for 1 year.

 

[giri26]

Surely no one would prefer Rizwan over Pant in Tests. Unless Pant is injured no one would pick anyone ahead of him in Tests at the moment. Rizwan is even struggling to make the Pakistan Test side at the moment

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Rizwan all formats. Pant isnt even good enough to be mentioned along with Rizwan

As usual, you are again wrong.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pant in Tests and ODIs.

I will pick Rizwan in T20s only if my team doesn't have even one anchor.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Rizwan all formats. Pant isnt even good enough to be mentioned along with Rizwan

well, at least a better post than saying erasmus saves india everytime or whatever.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

as of today...pant in tests & ODIs, rizwan in T20Is.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Tests and ODIs : Pant
T20s : Rizwan