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Exactly!!! There was nothing derogatory in asking, Why are u smiling at me? Do you like me, a boy?
THat was a pretty dramatic reply from root then.
As I've stated before, if you're asking the question (are you gay) with the intent of ridiculing someone then it clearly is homophobic.
Over-reaction from Root and the ICC.
He wasn't banned for making the comment. He got demerit points which added to previous offences resulted in a ban.
He made a comment that was intended to insult by implying that someone was gay. He can claim he's not a homophobe in general but he still made a homophobic comment. Criticising Root for calling out that comment is ridiculous.
What the heck? I was on board with Gabriel getting punished for using homosexulity term but if this is what he said ... not even a sledge/dig at this point. This is pointless. What the heck ICC?
"Do you like boys" and "stop looking at me" ... really?
Nobody is pushing a LBGT agenda on you. Do you feel pressured to perform homosexual acts as a result of their decision?ICC pushing their LGBT agenda on people who don't agree with that lifestyle.
In what way do you think Root overreacted?Well there has been an overreaction from Root and ICC on this. I don't think Gabriel should received a ban. Really poor this. This could have been handled better.
As expected, people overlooking the fact that this incident on its own wouldn't have led to Gabriel's ban, he ALREADY HAD 5 DEMERIT POINTS, so this offence has resulted in a further 4 Demerit points and he has to serve a 4 match ban which is fair.
Did Gabriel's comments warrant a points infraction? I don think so but if it contravenes any ICC guidelines or regulations then by all means he should have been infracted but 4 points seems a bit excessive based o what he said.
...after insinuating he was gay.This deserves no attention from the ICC. It is not abuse, it is simply a guy demanding another guy to quit grinning at him.
My issue with this, and even the Sarfraz issue, is that if these are the types of bans/fines that will be handed out for such comments then it has to be across the board. There can not be differences between a ban for someone from WI or Pak and someone from Australia. I always bring up Clarke threatening Jimmy iwth a broken arm, what punishment did he receive for it?
Or Aussie bowlers continuously using the f word, the c word and so on. All of that should be ban or fine worthy.
This deserves no attention from the ICC. It is not abuse, it is simply a guy demanding another guy to quit grinning at him.
Nobody is pushing a LBGT agenda on you. Do you feel pressured to perform homosexual acts as a result of their decision?
Like it or not, homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals in most developed nations. Welcome to 2019.
I was speaking about undeveloped nations. They don't have nor need western morals. We shouldn't force it on them, seems like we're repeating the mistakes of colonial past.
Players have to abide by the ICC Code of Conduct.
I believe Clarke was sanctioned under the exact same regulation as Gabriel has been. The demerit points system wasn't in place at the time of that incident.
Was there a ban? I certainly do not remember it.
Like I said, the demerit points system wasn't in place so no, there was no ban.
Yes I know but my point stands, he should have been. PLayers did get banned or fined or both even before the accumulation of the demerits points became a policy. The ICC must have the same code and rules for everyone.
Players have to abide by the ICC Code of Conduct.
International cricketers should be understanding of cultural differences as part of their employment.I was speaking about undeveloped nations. They don't have nor need western morals. We shouldn't force it on them, seems like we're repeating the mistakes of colonial past.
Gabriel definitely did denigrate the gay community.I am not saying it's illegal, but unjustified. They made a huge issue out of it. Gabriel didn't abuse the gay community. Root is not a homosexual himself, Gabriel didn't deserve to be banned more than one match.
I am not saying it's illegal, but unjustified. They made a huge issue out of it. Gabriel didn't abuse the gay community. Root is not a homosexual himself, Gabriel didn't deserve to be banned more than one match.
The consensus attitude here is extremely disappointing. I'm by no means a big contributor to this forum, so my opinion doesn't matter much...but I'm considering leaving for good over the response to this saga.Yeah, he did in the same way that making a racist comment abuses communities of other races. That Root is presumably not gay us neither here nor there.
The consensus attitude here is extremely disappointing. I'm by no means a big contributor to this forum, so my opinion doesn't matter much...but I'm considering leaving for good over the response to this saga.
I thought Muslims and mostly coloured people would be more understanding towards prejudice in general.
Fwiw..I'll find it difficult to hate Root in the next Ashes series.![]()
Agreed. We live in a crazy world.Over-reaction from Root and the ICC.
A few others?I know what you mean. Some will scream blue murder at racism and Islamophobia and rightly so, yet give tacit approval to homophobia. But I would urge you to stay as you are a liberal pluralist voice and there are a few others here.
Stuff like this drives fans away. I mean seriously, how do you even sledge in modern day cricket?
Sport needs to be intense and competitive. This ain't Peppa Pig with sunshine and flowers.
ICC needs to concentrate on getting their act together rather than playing moral police.