Relax!
Do you have any idea what China is trying to do? Pretty soon China will have military bases in different parts of South Asia. The plan is clearly to bully everyone and make them submissive. They want to dominate all of us. Some of their actions are proof to this.
China is the manufacturing hub of the world. But they realise that it's not something they can continue for very long because of several reasons. They are actively looking at other possibilities. India is the biggest threat to China as an economy and they know it very well.
China's story will end if others stop buying things from them and stop giving them contracts for manufacturing. Manufacturing is their biggest strength. India's great strength is its service/IT sector. There is enough room for two superpowers in South East Asia because the two countries are big enough markets. China will realise this soon. Or maybe they already do.
Thanks for confirming the point I was making about a local policeman. You have clearly articulated China's wider broader strategic and economic desire and plan. As for Military bases , they have every right to considering they are practically surrounded by the US and its allies which now includes India. So counter moves from them are only understandable.
I didn't claim to know more than any of you guys about Pakistan's internal matters. But one thing would be very clear to any observer. The army's influence in everything. Army's permission is sought for everything. They are a major player when it comes to decision making.
Yes and nobody is denying that. I have explained why they are a major player. It is in our constitution for there to be checks and balances. The problem we have is the politicians are not sticking to their part of the bargain. The army has had to intervene because time and again national security has been put at risk due to the whims and stupidity of a politician and their idiotic desire to maintain their wealth through corrupt means. Also the fact we have a large neighbour that has a policy to cause strife within our border, and you get an insecure environment. Hence why security is then an issue.
You guys have a lot of ground to cover. Let's consider something as simple as the automotive sector. Foreign companies are reluctant to start ventures in Pakistan. Most youngsters there still ride around in 100cc two stroke bikes. The Mehraan, which is basically an 80s car is still a hit there. Many Japanese companies are taking advantage of you and are overcharging you.
When you compare something like technology, the Indian IT industry is a million miles ahead. Come on man. I'm not saying that you can't compete with India. But to compete with India you need to reach certain level first. You should be trying to reach that level. And Pakistan should fix its 'talent leak' issue as well. Many young talents produced by Pakistan are trying to fly out of Pakistan. That should be prevented by creating more opportunities for them to succeed and live a good quality life in Pakistan.
Why are they not investing? security and a lack of favourable business conditions e.g. controls and managing corruption. Who's job is it to initiate these reforms? The politicians not the army. They have had over a decade to sort out the issues. It can be done very quickly but they have not done it because they are too busy lining their pockets. That is the core issue in Pakistan. Not the interference of the army as Indians are lead to believe. Also we all know what has been going on with regards to security since 2008. And who has been responsible.
What is your solution to eradicate corruption? Allow the army to run the country? That's like asking for a tsunami to avoid coastal erosion.
I'm assuming that you know what was happening in Eastern Pakistan or today's Bangladesh before partition? The situation was so bad that India had to intervene.
Had to intervene? no it didnt. It intervened and actually stoked a lot of the issues. There is enough stuff that I can post to show what was going on. A planned strategy to dismember Pakistan. Its openly admitted by your current PM. Even Manekshaw said it in one of his interviews. He had months to plan his operations. The PA were not expecting an Indian operation across the border. But I'll leave this for another thread.
Great leaders are not born. They're made. As long as your judges, army and executives run the show, that wont happen. I'm of the opinion that you should change that system.
we shall see. They have had enough time. In one instance one family has ruled for 33 years in one province. Lets see what happens in this coming election.
Corruption is there in every army sir. I don't have to know anyone in PA to know that. But in the case of Pakistani Army the chances are much much higher because it enjoys autonomy. It gets to decide what it wants to do.
Yes with a limited budget that has actually decreased in real terms. It is still at the mercy of basic economics run by the politicians.
Our new government has a different approach to ceasefire violations. Instead of killing our army's morale by choosing to do nothing, we now hit back. I don't want to talk much more about it. We know our army's might.
Another myth sold to you by your sarkar. You have always done something. But this time because we now have SSG and LCB's embedded with our infantry units, your casualties are rising and are higher than previous encounters.
So you believe our Government is planning to attack Pakistan and takeover the "lost lands"
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No. I believe that your strategic planners have created a strategic plan to cut Pakistan into two and take the fertile lands of the Punjab within the nuke threshold. Thus forcing Pakistan to the negotiating table and ending the Kashmir issue by forcing us to make unbearable concessions. Its called cold start and part of your overall strategy to contain Pakistan. It is just the army's end of things. Your govt has been using other methods at the moment. It is to contain Pakistan. You may not see it put strategic planners think decades ahead. A peaceful stable Pakistan is a threat to India. That is your govts calculation. Otherwise they would be sitting in lahore sipping chai with our PM discussing rail and road links and economics.
Nukes don't guarantee anything. If a war breaks out both countries wont use it. Both countries don't go to war because that'll drag both countries down by a decade at least, allowing the external players to take advantage of us.
If a war breaks out we will use it. We have made this crystal clear to your top brass. We have tactical nukes ready to do the job. From Nasr to artillery based weapons. They will be provided to local commanders to sue as they see fit. This scares the hell out of the US and hence why there wont be a war until we lose our nuke capability.
We'll be very happy if you get a government that is in total control of everything. A stable Pakistan is very good news for India.
You mean a civilian govt that neuters the army and lets the Indian state get on with what its doing in Kashmir and on our western border. Well that will never happen. Your idea of what the pakistan govt should be doing and what pakistani's want it to do are very different. e want peace but not on your terms. We want a mutual peace that is beneficial to Pakistan, kashmiris and all of the people of the subcontinent. Not one that just gives the reigns of the region to you on a platter.
How many people here support those "send them to Pakistan" slogans? Based on that logic I can say that Pakistan is a nation full of terrorists. That doesn't make much sense, does it?
It doesnt need many to support the slogans. Only a few with power.and a few in India is more than most european countries. Thats more than enough.
We don't consider you guys as our enemies or something. If we did, we wouldn't be here on this forum trying to clear whatever misunderstanding that is between us.
You may not. But your govt does. Every strategic move it makes keeps this either at its forefront or at the back of its mind.
