Not too bad then, we only require 8, 9 new players!
I dont buy this excuse that we play on poor wickets at home thats why we struggle. I think that pak players are not coached how to bat! Not as youngsters or when they become professionals. And the ones who are coached are coached by sub-standard coaches.
Im sorry but i dont think abid ali or umar akmal would change paks batting failures against quality attacks. Like i said, i can only think of miandad and inzi who were up to world standard. Surely for a cricket crazy nation, we should be producing more than 2 world class bats.
He is but i have definetly seen him chicken out when the going gets tough like today. His dismissal today was pathetic, just flapped at a wide ball, no foot movement what so ever. Getting out to a nothing ball in the situation we were in, especially when you are our best batsman is criminal. Even misbah, with his limited ability showed grit and determination and if he was playing in that situation, he would have got us to 250, which could have been a winning score.
Hanif was before my time . Yes anwar was world class, i forgot about him but his career was unfortunately vey short for a batsman.
I agree with what you are saying, but its more than just that. Pak youngsters are not coached by competent coaches, theres no school cricket, so players teach thekselves how to play. If they go professional, there have many flaws in their technique and the pak professional coaches are either not competent to correct these flaws or the pak players are too stubborn or lazy to correct these flaws.
I agree 100%!
I disagree! The team lacks ability. Only babar and amir have/had genuine ability in this squad. Amir is aging and losing his ability. Babar is young and will get better, but i can see a flaw in his mental game, which is hes not a fighter, he doesnt have that grit to fight it out when the going gets tough.
Sohail akhtar is inferior to fakhar, who himself is a hit or miss player.
Ive supported them for over 30 years mate! Whem they lost to a non test bengladesh and ireland sides in the wc. In the ball tampering scandals and the spot fixing scandals etc.
I didnt see that programme but i have seen other programmes by ex cricketers turned coaches who have said the same thing! I even remember wasim being questioned by an english commie during a match, asking why doesnt someone tell afridi to be more selective with his shots and wasim said when he was captain he told him so many times but he never listened.
I dont like these type of silly comparrisons. Kohli mashaAllah is a great player and inshaAllah babar will be too, remember hes only 24, hes got a long career ahead of him.
Excellent post! I couldnt agree more.
It even took kohli 4 - 5 years to start taking command with his batting and he was playing with an all star batting line up! Babar been playing 4 years with a mediocre batting line up. Im happy to give him more time, especially as hes the only world class bat that we have.
Babar is the only player we have. Fakhar can be given a little extra time but if he continues to be a hit and miss player, then he needs to go. I would keep amir qnd
I would keep amir and wahab for a couple more years until hasnain and shaheen mature. I would add haris rauf and umer khan to the team. And i have no idea where to find the rest of the team!
Individual performances alone are not enough to win a game.
Simple maths 11 》 2
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I doubt babar will be a match winner, going by what ive seen of him. He bails when the pressure is on. But alongside other int standard players, he will feel less burden and contribute. Thats why fakhar in form was so important for this wc. Sadly, fakhar has become a hit and miss player. So we urgently need 3, 4 int standard bats but unfortunately, the cupboard is bare! Dark times ahead.
But it’s not really taking all eleven players to beat Pakistan. England usually do it with their top 3 batsmen. That cricket is a team game everyone knows, but if you want to just a regular player or a gun player is a function of what you do when the heat is really on: fwiw I am not writing them off, I just hope they don’t peddle these kind of nonsense excuses.
Like i said, i dont think hes going to be a match winner. He is going to be a team player who needs someone to win the game and he will support. A bit like M. Yousuf who needed/ supported inzi( the match winner).
By all means chuck out the guys who dont follow instructions. But the reality is we havent ever produce 6 int standard batsman in a team ever! We have always relied on a couple of world class batsman, supported by 3- 4 mediocre batsman. And then let our world class bowling win us the game. We now no longer have a world class bowling attack and hence 1- 2 int standard batsman is not going to suffice anymore. We need 6 int standard batsman in the team. And we need to.get our bowling mojo back!
I remember that, he hit a real purple patch there. I also know that he as well as inzi and younis have outstading performances in england, i saw most of them live on tv. But he did go missing alot of the time and relied on inzi alot. Thats why i compared him to babar. Babar has some great performances too, but relies on fakhar to create match winning situations.
White ball cricket has long ago stopped being a 50/50 game between bat and ball. Its predominantly, a batsman game.
I agree with what you are saying. But that leaves me with this puzzle - the first class system has always been poor, so how did we produce so many world class players and decent players in the 90s?
Kohli already won multiple pressure games by the time he was 25. No matter how much cut piece stats you guys bring in fact remains the same. Babar is levels below Kohli talent and ability wise and always will be.
Babar has some great performance???
Fakhar is a worldclass player with that dodgy batting technique what a joke.
and m.yousuf will still bat better than b.azam in pressure situationsBabar is statically way ahead of kohli after the same period of time 4 years( Kohli circa 2008 - 2012) . From 2012 kohli has had a rapid increase in his performances and is one of the best bats of his era. I doubt babar will reach such heights, not because of his ability, i believe babar batting ability is and will remain on par with kohli but because of his mental ability. Kohli is mentally very strong, i think babar is lacking in this aspect. Anyway, why indian fans get so defensive when it comes to babar? Chill!
Babar has 9 odi hundred in 4 years. Babar slap dale steyn around the park. Played well in the recently concluded england series.
No in odis M. Yousuf was a bottler! Babar is heading in same direction. Lets hope he can rectify this.Fakhar is a worldclass player with that dodgy batting technique what a joke.
I agree with you 100%.
I am chilled brother, just do not agree that Babar is on the same level as Kohli ability wise.
