Why did Aaqib Javed have to go for extreme ragging turners?

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I mean we had a template of england series slow turners was the way to go where your batsmen can score runs and spinners get wickets as the match progress here wi series pitches were truning from ball 1 i think aqib got it wrong will give him benefit of doubt but moving forward slow turners like those england series are way to go for pak team.
 
I doubt it was aqib who asked. I think curators overdid it. If pitches were similar to England series maybe we would have done a bit better but then who is to say WI wouldn't have scored more as well. Overall.m, showed pur true auqaat as the low ranked test side. WI isn't as bad as their ranking shows. They even beat Aus in Aus something wr havent done in decades.
 
I doubt it was aqib who asked. I think curators overdid it. If pitches were similar to England series maybe we would have done a bit better but then who is to say WI wouldn't have scored more as well. Overall.m, showed pur true auqaat as the low ranked test side. WI isn't as bad as their ranking shows. They even beat Aus in Aus something wr havent done in decades.
West Indies have somewhat similar slow turners in some parts of their country. Mirpur, Galle are some turning wickets. It is their nature. Unnaturally produced turners are always going to be unpredictable.
 
My guess is the curator is to blame.

Pakistan likely asked for a similar pitch to the 2nd/3rd Tests vs England. To guarantee turning conditions, the curator exaggerated the drying effect using fans and that greenhouse-type setup. Was that because of the weather in January? They can answer that better. Regardless, this is why the 1st Test had a brutal turning pitch that was almost unplayable at points.

Of course, since Pakistan won, they probably didn't get any criticism from the people above them. Instead, they were probably told to keep doing what they're doing.

However, the curator did realize it was too much and for the 2nd Test they toned it down. It wasn't spinning as much as the 1st Test. But it still was excessive and the batsmen played terrible cricket too.

I don't know if all of this is because of the existing conditions or them not being able to get it right. After all, they did also handle the 2nd Test pitch in Multan against England.
 
Pitch making is never an exact science. If you're using wire brushes, fans and underpreparing surfaces there will never be a standardized level of deterioration to hit.

It will always be a lottery as to what extreme you get. India and SL have seen it over the years whenever they have looked to doctor wickets
 
Pitch making is never an exact science. If you're using wire brushes, fans and underpreparing surfaces there will never be a standardized level of deterioration to hit.

It will always be a lottery as to what extreme you get. India and SL have seen it over the years whenever they have looked to doctor wickets
Precisely lol More often than not it will backfire. You cannot control the deterioration. Best way to prepare is to leave a bit of grass on day 1 and let it deteriorate naturally. This artificial deterioration is a terrible idea. Fact is Pakistan did not even test the fast bowlers enough to see if they get anything out of the surface.
 
Aqib make rank turner Because when Pakistan defeated England at home, pak spinners were better and had more experience than shoaib and rehan type spinners but this Warrican and Motie are no joke spinners. Sinclair is also not that bad. These guys play leagues and they know how to keep a batter shut.

Moreover. Pakistan batters are pathetic against spin. Aaqib should be looking to make these kind of pitches in domestic as well to test these guys otherwise we are not gonna win much.
 
Someone please tell Aaqib that his batters are even more fragile against spin so creating raging turners won’t work for them every time.
 
Pakistan even lost on flat pitches. What else they could have done? There was no choice.
 
If curators can make uae type pitches which become difficult as the match progresses then they are the best

Otherwise do what we are doing rn against sena

And tone it down against ban sl and wi.
 
These lottery pitches will only yield 50-50 results as its entirely toss dependant.

Pakistan should look to make balanced pitches and that's it.

The problem is that your bowlers suck and you only have 2 test batters in the team while the rest are all walking wickets.
 
3 out of 7 games so far... That is not a good result and Aaqib should not be proud of this.
 
3 out of 7 games so far... That is not a good result and Aaqib should not be proud of this.
The first England test games and Bangladesh was before aqib.

Aqib era has featured 4 tests 2 vs eng and 2 vs wi and pak won 3 out of 4.

However they got lucky 3x with the toss.

That's the issue with aqib era, might as well quit watching Pakistan test matches and just watch the toss and come back after 4 to 5 days.
 
The first England test games and Bangladesh was before aqib.

Aqib era has featured 4 tests 2 vs eng and 2 vs wi and pak won 3 out of 4.

However they got lucky 3x with the toss.

That's the issue with aqib era, might as well quit watching Pakistan test matches and just watch the toss and come back after 4 to 5 days.
Ya so true bro its a toss lotterry match you win the toss bat first win the game thats what ragging turners pitches does to you so pak shouldn't feel bad about it any team in these ragging turners you put bat last will loose 100 percent its win the toss bat first win the match simple.
 
It’s not his fault the seniors are such terrible players of spin and mentally weak cowards. These pitches give Pakistan a chance and best opportunity to get something out of home conditions. But credit to the WI to, they have decent spinners and a good Test side who don’t just fold.
 
he is actually more relying on Katapa and Papa.. but he doesnt know the capabilities of our batters
 
Aqib never showed he had any understanding of international cricket. He tried to show some tricks just to be different and as expected failed. Ended up dragging the Pakistan test team to the rock bottom.
 
he is actually more relying on Katapa and Papa.. but he doesnt know the capabilities of our batters
Not only aaqib, but shan is also expecting Noman and Sajid to take 20 wickets and so far his career has been saved by them.

Rank turners will only work if our batters are good against spin and so far, we are an embarrassment.
 
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