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Why do Indians think that Al Jazeera, BBC, Sky, Reuters are spreading fake news?

Because we have an obnoxious bunch of delusional right wing idiots. They believe in only what they want to. Rest assured, secular Indians like me want to see the Kashmiris to prosper without anything to fear.
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Because we have an obnoxious bunch of delusional right wing idiots. They believe in only what they want to. Rest assured, secular Indians like me want to see the Kashmiris to prosper without anything to fear.
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You are in a rare category then. Most of the indian "liberals" wear saffron pants underneath when it comes to kashmir.
 
Bbc and Al Jazeera have been asked to provide raw footage of the videos.

Bbc must remember this is not 1995.
 
Can’t say much for BBC and Al Jazeera but Reuters is one of the most credible news outlets and does factual reporting. Don’t know how anyone can call them biased.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bbc and Al Jazeera have been asked to provide raw footage of the videos.

Bbc must remember this is not 1995.
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You are absolutely correct.

In 2019, it will be very difficult for India to create propaganda and get away with it, as it already happening, exposing Hindutva daily as racist ideology, which you clearly support.
 
BBC and Al Jazeera are fake news we can only trust those paragons of journalistic standards Hindustan Times, the Hindu or ANI.
 
Syed1 said:
BBC and Al Jazeera are fake news we can only trust those paragons of journalistic standards Hindustan Times, the Hindu or ANI.
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I hope you are mocking ‘The Hindu’ , so just including someone that reads Pakistani and BJp news from ‘The Hindu’..
[MENTION=149871]Ram Shekhar[/MENTION] , I hope your stop quoting ‘The Hindu’ now..
 
JaDed said:
I hope you are mocking ‘The Hindu’ , so just including someone that reads Pakistani and BJp news from ‘The Hindu’..

[MENTION=149871]Ram Shekhar[/MENTION] , I hope your stop quoting ‘The Hindu’ now..
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Honestly I don't even know if its good or bad, but since it is Indian then it automatically is more fair, honest and balanced then pathetic, biased and fake news agencies such as CNN, Al Jazeera, BBC etc.
 
Syed1 said:
Honestly I don't even know if its good or bad, but since it is Indian then it automatically is more fair, honest and balanced then pathetic, biased and fake news agencies such as CNN, Al Jazeera, BBC etc.
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In all honesty ‘The Hindu’ and its all publications(frontline etc) are leftists and socialists in nature, I grew up on them and can assure you they have been warning of Right Wing at local ground since 2012 and have been absolutely critical of BJP now they are a left biased paper because the editor was a member of SFI the opposing youth wing wrt BJP ,our resident [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] IIRC even fought with the SFI lol.

But I do see all Pakistanis talking how Indians take the view of the ‘The Hindu’ seriously and lol if Indians took the paper seriously there would never be BJP existing and we all would be pre-1991 Socialist India.

So in short The Hindu isn’t equivalent to a Hindu biased paper but ‘The Republican’ channel is Hinduvta biased , go figure.
 
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JaDed said:
In all honesty ‘The Hindu’ and its all publications(frontline etc) are leftists and socialists in nature, I grew up on them and can assure you they have been warning of Right Wing at local ground since 2012 and have been absolutely critical of BJP now they are a left biased paper because the editor was a member of SFI the opposing youth wing wrt BJP ,our resident [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] IIRC even fought with the SFI lol.

But I do see all Pakistanis talking how Indians take the view of the ‘The Hindu’ seriously and lol if Indians took the paper seriously there would never be BJP existing and we all would be pre-1991 Socialist India.

So in short The Hindu isn’t equivalent to a Hindu biased paper but ‘The Republican’ channel is Hinduvta biased , go figure.
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Which Indian news outlet is the least biased? As an outsider, NDTV seems least biased but maybe i’m wrong.
 
AdamM97 said:
Which Indian news outlet is the least biased? As an outsider, NDTV seems least biased but maybe i’m wrong.
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All are biased, sorry to say ,all go either one way so you have to figure out yourself and check facts INTL reporting etc. NDTV has been biased towards Congress except Ravish Kumar( imho).

In terms of publications ‘fountain ink’ is what I completely trust but you have to wait for a month to get any news.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bbc and Al Jazeera have been asked to provide raw footage of the videos.

Bbc must remember this is not 1995.
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BBC themselves said yesterday I think it was that they'll provide raw footage. I'm sure they will.
It looks like they're taking these false accusations very seriously as it ruins their credibility.
 
JaDed said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_controversies

Only Reuters has no such big issue till now , Ny times and Guardian might be biased(liberal) but are independent atleast imo.
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If multiple news agencies are reporting the SAME thing, it will be delusional to think that they're planning a conspiracy against you.
If it was only BBC reporting this I would understand but CNBC, AJ, NYT, REUTERS are all reporting the same thing
 
Instigation22 said:
If multiple news agencies are reporting the SAME thing, it will be delusional to think that they're planning a conspiracy against you.
If it was only BBC reporting this I would understand but CNBC, AJ, NYT, REUTERS are all reporting the same thing
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That is true my point was on their credibility as such, which you mentioned.
 
Majestic_Inzi said:
Cant believe how paranoid u are these are western news outlets which are reputable. They cant make up things unlike ind media.
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Lol at reputable.

Bbc has been banned in India for breaking laws and was caught spreading fake news way back in 1995 as well.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Lol at reputable.

Bbc has been banned in India for breaking laws and was caught spreading fake news way back in 1995 as well.
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You can only accuse them of spreading fake news if they're the only outlet reporting it not when there are 10 other news agencies reporting the exact same thing.😂
 
mustang said:
Why do Pakistanis refuse to acknowledge or believe in BBC and Al-Jazeera? Pot calling the kettle black anyone?

44% of Kashmiris in Pakistan's Kashmir favored independence even as late as 2010. Source - https://www.bbc.com/news/10161171

Yet, there are actively enforced policies by Pakistan that discourage Kashmiri opinions favoring independence in Pakistan's Kashmir. Source - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...inking-pro-freedom-space-190304091423290.html
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Yet India is the one which has issues of insurgencies with it's part of Kashmir :))
 
mustang said:
Why do Pakistanis refuse to acknowledge or believe in BBC and Al-Jazeera? Pot calling the kettle black anyone?

44% of Kashmiris in Pakistan's Kashmir favored independence even as late as 2010. Source - https://www.bbc.com/news/10161171

Yet, there are actively enforced policies by Pakistan that discourage Kashmiri opinions favoring independence in Pakistan's Kashmir. Source - /url][/QUOTE] Well, most Pakistani... conducted for IOK, many people were present.
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Usman Chadda said:
Yet India is the one which has issues of insurgencies with it's part of Kashmir :))
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Instigation22 said:
Well, most Pakistanis would agree if these sources were presented to them but you're forgetting, or just ignoring, that the freedom movement in AJK has gone down completely. Whereas the movement in IOK has gone up significantly.

Look at the freedom marches in AJK which were conducted for IOK, many people were present.
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Apples - oranges comparison between Pakistani and Indian Kashmirs I would say? It is well known and apparent that Kashmiris on the Pakistan side have more rights now than in Indian Kashmir. Indians who deny this are being inaccurate. India interestingly have take a stance similar to China - legal/paper based claim without the will of majority of people. While Pakistan's claim is based on the supposed will of the majority of Kashmiris.

Apples-Apples comparison in my mind is: What is Pakistan government's ideological claim to Kashmir and what are Pakistan government's actions in ground reality?

Pakistan government's ideological claim - "We will fight India for Kashmir because we care about rights of Kashmiris" -- great and noble, more power to them.

Pakistan government's actions in ground reality - No equal platform for all opinions of Kashmiris in their political system. -- what gives here? Yeah Kashmiris in Pakistan's side are much much better off than in India (being very clear about this) but we are not comparing against that. We are comparing Pakistan government's words vs actions here and there seems to be a discrepancy.

Do Pakistanis here have neutral data points showing many Kashmiris on their side want to join with Pakistan and not be independent? I have shown neutral data that 44% of Kashmiris in Pakistan's side prefer independence and also shown a neutral source (Al-Jazeera) explaining how Pakistan government is suppressing those pro-freedom voices.
 
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mustang said:
Apples - oranges comparison between Pakistani and Indian Kashmirs I would say? It is well known and apparent that Kashmiris on the Pakistan side have more rights now than in Indian Kashmir. Indians who deny this are being inaccurate. India interestingly have take a stance similar to China - legal/paper based claim without the will of majority of people. While Pakistan's claim is based on the supposed will of the majority of Kashmiris.

Apples-Apples comparison in my mind is: What is Pakistan government's ideological claim to Kashmir and what are Pakistan government's actions in ground reality?

Pakistan government's ideological claim - "We will fight India for Kashmir because we care about rights of Kashmiris" -- great and noble, more power to them.

Pakistan government's actions in ground reality - No equal platform for all opinions of Kashmiris in their political system. -- what gives here? Yeah Kashmiris in Pakistan's side are much much better off than in India (being very clear about this) but we are not comparing against that. We are comparing Pakistan government's words vs actions here and there seems to be a discrepancy.

Do Pakistanis here have neutral data points showing many Kashmiris on their side want to join with Pakistan and not be independent? I have shown neutral data that 44% of Kashmiris in Pakistan's side prefer independence and also shown a neutral source (Al-Jazeera) explaining how Pakistan government is suppressing those pro-freedom voices.
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Nothing of this sort would have happened if Hari Singh had simply acceded to Pakistan.
No wars over Kashmir, a lot less terrorism and maybe even no prominent rivalry between ind and pak. India would have accepted that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan because there would have been logical reasoning behind it.
According a Muslim majority state to a hindu majority country over a Muslim majority country would have always been a talking point.

I blame Hari Singh for all the mess he's created.
 
mustang said:
Apples - oranges comparison between Pakistani and Indian Kashmirs I would say? It is well known and apparent that Kashmiris on the Pakistan side have more rights now than in Indian Kashmir. Indians who deny this are being inaccurate. India interestingly have take a stance similar to China - legal/paper based claim without the will of majority of people. While Pakistan's claim is based on the supposed will of the majority of Kashmiris.

Apples-Apples comparison in my mind is: What is Pakistan government's ideological claim to Kashmir and what are Pakistan government's actions in ground reality?

Pakistan government's ideological claim - "We will fight India for Kashmir because we care about rights of Kashmiris" -- great and noble, more power to them.

Pakistan government's actions in ground reality - No equal platform for all opinions of Kashmiris in their political system. -- what gives here? Yeah Kashmiris in Pakistan's side are much much better off than in India (being very clear about this) but we are not comparing against that. We are comparing Pakistan government's words vs actions here and there seems to be a discrepancy.

Do Pakistanis here have neutral data points showing many Kashmiris on their side want to join with Pakistan and not be independent? I have shown neutral data that 44% of Kashmiris in Pakistan's side prefer independence and also shown a neutral source (Al-Jazeera) explaining how Pakistan government is suppressing those pro-freedom voices.
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I'm highlighting all of this here because this entire thread is filled with Pakistani posters ranting "Indians deny this", "Indians deny that" ... yada yada.

Well, Pakistanis are equally culpable by denying neutral facts (from the same BBC and Al-Jazeera sources mind you) pointing out gaps on their side. So the irony here seems thicker than Trump's stupidity (had to slide that one in haha).
 
mustang said:
I'm highlighting all of this here because this entire thread is filled with Pakistani posters ranting "Indians deny this", "Indians deny that" ... yada yada.

Well, Pakistanis are equally culpable by denying neutral facts (from the same BBC and Al-Jazeera sources mind you) pointing out gaps on their side. So the irony here seems thicker than Trump's stupidity (had to slide that one in haha).
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Were PPers denying this?

When I saw this article (not today), I was surprised as well but didn't deny it due to the results being from reliable sources. But the Indian Twitter are asking to ban the BBC. Like what are you on?
It's irony that they talk about us being in denial and they're so oblivious about their own mistakes.
 
Instigation22 said:
Were PPers denying this?

When I saw this article (not today), I was surprised as well but didn't deny it due to the results being from reliable sources. But the Indian Twitter are asking to ban the BBC. Like what are you on?
It's irony that they talk about us being in denial and they're so oblivious about their own mistakes.
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Seriously thank you for a reasonable response man. You are the first Pakistani here (assuming you are a Pakistani) who responded without resorting to bad personal attacks, flagging my post, and even deleting an entire thread for pointing out neutral facts. Kudos!

Indian twitter wanting ban of BBC - Clown brigade in full flow over there.

Hari Singh's bad decision and the mess - Agree overall. Some level of complication and maybe thats why Hari Singh was confused. Maybe he was wondering about plight of Jammu and Ladakh when joining a muslim constitution country and maybe thats how the Indian leaders convinced him (under duress of tribal invasion) to join a secular constitution country - just guessing.

I think if partition had happened such that Gilgit, Baltistan joined Pakistan, Kashmir valley was given a transparent choice of majority, Jammu and Ladakh joined India - that part of the world would have had fewer wars, less unnecessary defense spending, and better economic progress.
 
mustang said:
Seriously thank you for a reasonable response man. You are the first Pakistani here (assuming you are a Pakistani) who responded without resorting to bad personal attacks, flagging my post, and even deleting an entire thread for pointing out neutral facts. Kudos!

Indian twitter wanting ban of BBC - Clown brigade in full flow over there.

Hari Singh's bad decision and the mess - Agree overall. Some level of complication and maybe thats why Hari Singh was confused. Maybe he was wondering about plight of Jammu and Ladakh when joining a muslim constitution country and maybe thats how the Indian leaders convinced him (under duress of tribal invasion) to join a secular constitution country - just guessing.

I think if partition had happened such that Gilgit, Baltistan joined Pakistan, Kashmir valley was given a transparent choice of majority, Jammu and Ladakh joined India - that part of the world would have had fewer wars, less unnecessary defense spending, and better economic progress.
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Appreciated mate and yes I am a Pakistani.
You have to accept the problems you have within yourself so you can resolve them to move forward. Living in denial will just make it worse.

As for Hari Singh, he wanted Kashmir to be an Independent country but living in between two big countries who could have used your land as territorial advantage made sure that you being independent was just not an option.
You can watch documentaries about this if you're interested. You'll get to know the nitty gritty stuff.

Don't mind the PPers too much, sometimes they act impulsively because they love their country and I'm sure you love your country too. It's not that they hate Indians or anything.
 
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Instigation22 said:
Nothing of this sort would have happened if Hari Singh had simply acceded to Pakistan.
No wars over Kashmir, a lot less terrorism and maybe even no prominent rivalry between ind and pak. India would have accepted that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan because there would have been logical reasoning behind it.
*acceding* a Muslim majority state to a hindu majority country over a Muslim majority country would have always been a talking point.

I blame Hari Singh for all the mess he's created.
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Typo.
 
Syed1 said:
BBC and Al Jazeera are fake news we can only trust those paragons of journalistic standards Hindustan Times, the Hindu or ANI.
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'The Hindu' is indeed a paragon of journalistic standards though some may feel it panders too much to left wing and also excessively South India focused, it is dominated by communist affiliated journalists and South Indians, headquarters in Chennai. 'The Indian Express' (NCR) is another good news source, then we have 'Telegraph' (Kolkata), in fact only these 3 are world class among English news publications in India. They may not have the same level of circulation as say TOI (worst) but quality is top notch. Among these 3 'The Hindu' is just on another level and comparable to the best in the world like 'The Guardian' and 'New York Times'.
 
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Swashbuckler said:
'The Hindu' is indeed a paragon of journalistic standards though some may feel it panders too much to left wing and also excessively South India focused, it is dominated by communist affiliated journalists and South Indians, headquarters in Chennai. 'The Indian Express' (NCR) is another good news source, then we have 'Telegraph' (Kolkata), in fact only these 3 are world class among English news publications in India. They may not have the same level of circulation as say TOI (worst) but quality is top notch. Among these 3 'The Hindu' is just on another level and comparable to the best in the world like 'The Guardian' and 'New York Times'.
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The telegraph is world class? Lol.Its a rag that panders to the Congress. It was anti left during left regime, then anti mamata and now anti Modi.

Only The Statesman is some what neutral.

Regarding The Hindu, its own editorial management is crossing swords these days as N Ram and Malini Parthasarathy tussle for control.

Guardian? Really?
 
cricketjoshila said:
The telegraph is world class? Lol.Its a rag that panders to the Congress. It was anti left during left regime, then anti mamata and now anti Modi.

Only The Statesman is some what neutral.

Regarding The Hindu, its own editorial management is crossing swords these days as N Ram and Malini Parthasarathy tussle for control.

Guardian? Really?
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Telegraph is anti-establishment, doesn't shy away from asking tough questions. Just because it is not giving BJP a free pass, does not mean it is a rag.

The Hindu is outstanding, again BJP/RSS/Modi ******* may hate it, understandable. It has a culture of excellence right from early days, best during my grandfather's generation and setting the standards in 2019.

The Guardian is outstanding, centre-liberal, high standard of reportage and journalistic integrity.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Telegraph is anti-establishment, doesn't shy away from asking tough questions. Just because it is not giving BJP a free pass, does not mean it is a rag.

The Hindu is outstanding, again BJP/RSS/Modi ******* may hate it, understandable. It has a culture of excellence right from early days, best during my grandfather's generation and setting the standards in 2019.

The Guardian is outstanding, centre-liberal, high standard of reportage and journalistic integrity.
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Telegraph is not anti establishment. Its anti anyone who is anti congress.Aveek Sarkar is a thorough congress man.

N Ram was given the Padma Award by the bjp govt of Modi. Hindu is left through and through, so much that part of its editorial team is now clashing to stop it from driving a anti national agenda in the name of left journalism.

The Guardian is Racist.
 
They want to peddle lies .
They claimed all their pilots and planes were accounted for on Feb 27th until Pakistan released the video.
 
Swashbuckler said:
I am unaware of this, could you back this statement with proof?
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Sorry i think i have made a mistake. N Ram was awarded the Padma Bhushan before the BJP came to power.

Apologies.

But i still stand by my remark that he carried out a extremely biased reporting on Modi and The Hindu by admission of its own other members of ownership group has a very biased view these days.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Telegraph is anti-establishment, doesn't shy away from asking tough questions. Just because it is not giving BJP a free pass, does not mean it is a rag.

The Hindu is outstanding, again BJP/RSS/Modi ******* may hate it, understandable. It has a culture of excellence right from early days, best during my grandfather's generation and setting the standards in 2019.

The Guardian is outstanding, centre-liberal, high standard of reportage and journalistic integrity.
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The Hindu is the better of the lot, but is not what you are making it out to be. P Sainath (he refused Padma Shree as he thought his independence as a journalist would be compromised by accepting an award from the govt) had to resign from The Hindu because of the management. I have one proof of this newspaper compromising with reporting the truth, but agree it is better than the current lot.
 
In all this episode, it is quite clear that most of Pakistan wants to hear news of unrest in Kashmir. As soon as they get a news bite from somewhere, they latch on to it as if their life depends on it.
Sometimes these news articles have been proven to be blatantly false not even belonging to Kashmir. But Indians on PP have to point it out to Pakistanis who discuss these with a lot of interest.

BBC has its history with almost all east European countries wherein they have experienced false propaganda. As far as India is concerned, we have experienced it earlier a few years back and we are seeing it again.
As far as I am concerned ,। I trust Dawn more than I do BBC.
 
BaankeJi said:
In all this episode, it is quite clear that most of Pakistan wants to hear news of unrest in Kashmir. As soon as they get a news bite from somewhere, they latch on to it as if their life depends on it.
Sometimes these news articles have been proven to be blatantly false not even belonging to Kashmir. But Indians on PP have to point it out to Pakistanis who discuss these with a lot of interest.

BBC has its history with almost all east European countries wherein they have experienced false propaganda. As far as India is concerned, we have experienced it earlier a few years back and we are seeing it again.
As far as I am concerned ,। I trust Dawn more than I do BBC.
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Complete nonsense.
 
bluevision said:
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What are the odds ..this could be the protest expressing support of POK to join India :smith
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Umm, you do realise that the video is a report about protests in Pakistan? I understand it's easy to find this type of content in the Indian social media circles, but it's not hard to fact-check :smith

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At least watch the video. Smh.
It clearly stated in the vid that the protests were in Pakistan.

But it doesn't fit your narrative so...
 
Hmmm... It doesnt make much of a difference to me, not here to win an online argument with anyone.
I spent my childhood in a 'wanna be' separatist state in the 90s, and I had a soft corner for their vision. But I am glad that the youth of that state opted for development instead of getting brainwashed by political/ religious agendas. One common thing that I have noticed is that: all the offsprings of their separatist leaders/ influencers were studying abroad living lavish lives; rather than pelting stones or taking up arms and ending up at the receiving end.

*Ofcourse, religion was not a factor there*.

And I saw/heard/read everything that the Kashmiris claim to go thru day in day out.. curfews, rapes, military barbarics, secret killings of student leaders & journalists. And, our youths did not even have the luxury to throw stones at army and get away with it.

But there was no internet to verify or sensationalize those news.

Most of the educated Kashmiri friends and work-mates I've met in all these years dont have any predilection towards Pakistan either.

I know I am posting in a Pakistani forum, I am not here to be a 'sensible' poster to earn a few brownie points. But I sincerely trust that in a decade or two Kashmir will be doing just fine like the other state that I mentioned; just a matter of time.

I think there are million issues to address in our "beggar's sub-continent" than fighting over selective issues.

And before you term me as a fascist/ right winger, I like my beef as much as my bacon.
 
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bluevision said:
Hmmm... It doesnt make much of a difference to me, not here to win an online argument with anyone.
I spent my childhood in a 'wanna be' separatist state in the 90s, and I had a soft corner for their vision. But I am glad that the youth of that state opted for development instead of getting brainwashed by political/ religious agendas. One common thing that I have noticed is that: all the offsprings of their separatist leaders/ influencers were studying abroad living lavish lives; rather than pelting stones or taking up arms and ending up at the receiving end.

*Ofcourse, religion was not a factor there*.

And I saw/heard/read everything that the Kashmiris claim to go thru day in day out.. curfews, rapes, military barbarics, secret killings of student leaders & journalists. And, our youths did not even have the luxury to throw stones at army and get away with it.

But there was no internet to verify or sensationalize those news.

Most of the educated Kashmiri friends and work-mates I've met in all these years dont have any predilection towards Pakistan either.

I know I am posting in a Pakistani forum, I am not here to be a 'sensible' poster to earn a few brownie points. But I sincerely trust that in a decade or two Kashmir will be doing just fine like the other state that I mentioned; just a matter of time.

I think there are million issues to address in our "beggar's sub-continent" than fighting over selective issues.

And before you term me as a fascist/ right winger, I like my beef as much as my bacon.
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That made me laugh!
 
MenInG said:
Al Jazeera doesnt have that great a reputation as its hosted in a country known for issues with Human Rights but they will never report on that.
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Unfortunately, this is a FALSE statement and will mislead many readers.

A simple search yields dozens of reports on the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish/search?query=qatar+migrant

On another related point, who can forget this interview that was critical of the host country's foreign policy at a very sensitive time in regional geopolitics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9vDs3PVeCE&t=103s

If you are convinced by this evidence, I would suggest you edit your earlier statement to avoid misleading your readers.
 
After accusing the world of fake news the Indians admit today that violent protests did take place :))
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaVsFakeNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaVsFakeNews</a> | The credibility of BBC, Washington Post and the New York Times stands eroded even in the eyes of the govt that they represent: Madhu Kishwar- Founder Editor, Manushi<a href="https://t.co/LGCyJUEBn5">https://t.co/LGCyJUEBn5</a></p>— Republic (@republic) <a href="https://twitter.com/republic/status/1161312212863967233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Syed1 said:
Hahahah should have read the report yourself before acting smart. Go ahead give it another try, I'll save you some embarrassment by not commenting on it any further.
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And thats the problem with Indians and their media :))
 
The day the Indian people voted Modi into power again is when they didnt care and rather supported the torture on Kashmir.
 
jadaja said:
Editor's Note: (Mehwish Hayat is a Pakistani model, actress, and activist. Follow her on Twitter @MehwishHayat. The views expressed in this commentary are her own. View more opinion at CNN.)

CNN wants more traffic what better way to do it put anti India point of view. So again like these Pakistani pseudo Kashmiri sympathizers out to get their five minute fame.
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As brother jadaja has kindly pointed out in the other thread, CNN has joined the list of anti-India news outlets.

So the updated list of news outlets with an anti-India agenda:
Al Jazeera
Reuters
BBC
Washington Post
New York Times
The Guardian
CNN

Let's keep this list updated.
 
Abdullah719 said:
As brother jadaja has kindly pointed out in the other thread, CNN has joined the list of anti-India news outlets.

So the updated list of news outlets with an anti-India agenda:
Al Jazeera
Reuters
BBC
Washington Post
New York Times
The Guardian
CNN

Let's keep this list updated.
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Please do but with one thing in mind.

Posting a view point of a Pakistani author on CNN does not become CNN's view point.
 
jadaja said:
Please do but with one thing in mind.

Posting a view point of a Pakistani author on CNN does not become CNN's view point.
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"CNN wants more traffic what better way to do it put anti India point of view. So again like these Pakistani pseudo Kashmiri sympathizers out to get their five minute fame".

You are contradicting yourself.
 
IMMY69 said:
"CNN wants more traffic what better way to do it put anti India point of view. So again like these Pakistani pseudo Kashmiri sympathizers out to get their five minute fame".

You are contradicting yourself.
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I am not, Pro India will not get any mileage for them.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why Kashmiris are calling “********” on India’s Prime Minister Modi. <a href="https://t.co/Lm46O8j1NM">pic.twitter.com/Lm46O8j1NM</a></p>— VICE News (@vicenews) <a href="https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/1162435901970141184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Here we go, another fake news outlet!

P.S. The guy at the 1 min mark :91:

This video has some more footage of the rallies that BBC covered last Friday.
 
Abdullah719 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why Kashmiris are calling “********” on India’s Prime Minister Modi. <a href="https://t.co/Lm46O8j1NM">pic.twitter.com/Lm46O8j1NM</a></p>— VICE News (@vicenews) <a href="https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/1162435901970141184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Here we go, another fake news outlet!

P.S. The guy at the 1 min mark :91:

This video has some more footage of the rallies that BBC covered last Friday.
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This has red revolution written all over it.
 
After covering a large-scale protest in Kashmir and now breaking the news of thousands being arrested, AFP has joined the 'fake news' crew.

Watch Republic and Times Now for authentic news!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arnab Goswami, India’s most controversial news anchor, says the Western media’s coverage of Kashmir and reports of detentions and torture are “all lies and fake news” <a href="https://t.co/DkgyBSTnhT">pic.twitter.com/DkgyBSTnhT</a></p>— TRT World (@trtworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1164050748956483585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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:91:
 
Arnab is right in one thing majority of Kashmiris want peace and Pakistan is going be unhappy when it no longer can support cross border terrorism.
 
What does the world press gain from lying about kashmir?

Most governments decided to stay out of it.

Pakistan is not financially strong enough to lobby foreign news agencies to promote pro pakistani propaganda.

On the other hand india has huge financial deals with all of these countries and has a lot of lobbying pull in politics and foreign media.

So why on earth would these news agencies like BBC, CNN, al Jazeera's, Reuters, etc... make up lies????

Are Indians that naive?
 
blackanhyellow said:
What does the world press gain from lying about kashmir?

Most governments decided to stay out of it.

Pakistan is not financially strong enough to lobby foreign news agencies to promote pro pakistani propaganda.

On the other hand india has huge financial deals with all of these countries and has a lot of lobbying pull in politics and foreign media.

So why on earth would these news agencies like BBC, CNN, al Jazeera's, Reuters, etc... make up lies????

Are Indians that naive?
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Think about this Everything is normal in Kashmir barring few incidents headline vs Indian troops fire tear gas as mass protests erupt in Srinagar which will trigger more hits.

Violence is not new to this region.
 
jadaja said:
Think about this Everything is normal in Kashmir barring few incidents headline vs Indian troops fire tear gas as mass protests erupt in Srinagar which will trigger more hits.

Violence is not new to this region.
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I’m sorry but your words without any evidence has no weight.

Neither you are journalists nor you’re from Kashmir.
 
kk1992 said:
I’m sorry but your words without any evidence has no weight.

Neither you are journalists nor you’re from Kashmir.
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Do you even understand what my post was about ??? I am not presentating any evidence .

I just gave a reason some sites are sensationalizing even small things.
 
jadaja said:
Do you even understand what my post was about ??? I am not presentating any evidence .

I just gave a reason some sites are sensationalizing even small things.
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I’m confuse ?

You are trying to discredit every neutral source and trying to highlight every Indian news source as credible.

Unless you provide evidence than your words has no weight, it’s just an opinion, and frankly opinion of someone who is trying to highlight Indian news sources as credible can’t be taken seriously.
 
kk1992 said:
I’m confuse ?

You are trying to discredit every neutral source and trying to highlight every Indian news source as credible.

Unless you provide evidence than your words has no weight, it’s just an opinion, and frankly opinion of someone who is trying to highlight Indian news sources as credible can’t be taken seriously.
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I know you are confused.Let us just leave it. FYI I was not presentating anything, all I did was offer two headlines.
 
jadaja said:
Think about this Everything is normal in Kashmir barring few incidents headline vs Indian troops fire tear gas as mass protests erupt in Srinagar which will trigger more hits.

Violence is not new to this region.
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Firstly,

Having millions under house arrent conditions, with no communication to the rest if the world or internet is not normal by any means. This is not allegations this is a fact.
 
blackanhyellow said:
Firstly,

Having millions under house arrent conditions, with no communication to the rest if the world or internet is not normal by any means. This is not allegations this is a fact.
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Having Curfew is not house arrest , speak facts.Communications has been restored to major areas except few and those will done if they feel things are normal.

Exaggeration of facts does mean they become truth.

I presented you the case why all these sites are doing what they are doing, they are scrambling to get headlines .
 
jadaja said:
Having Curfew is not house arrest , speak facts.Communications has been restored to major areas except few and those will done if they feel things are normal.

Exaggeration of facts does mean they become truth.

I presented you the case why all these sites are doing what they are doing, they are scrambling to get headlines .
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That is your opinion and it has no value.

matter of fact, everything in the quoted comment is based on your source, which is Indian news media, hence no weight.
 
Abdullah719 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arnab Goswami, India’s most controversial news anchor, says the Western media’s coverage of Kashmir and reports of detentions and torture are “all lies and fake news” <a href="https://t.co/DkgyBSTnhT">pic.twitter.com/DkgyBSTnhT</a></p>— TRT World (@trtworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1164050748956483585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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He looks like Aamir Liaquat hahahah.
 
When number of international and western outlets narrate human rights violations to put a question in their minds, here comes another justification, "Violence is not new to this region."
 
BBC, NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, Guardian are not fake news insomuch they do not publish news that is false.

In reality they are fake news as they mislead their audience by selecting what to publicize. For any issue there are two sides, and if their coverage is 90% one side then they indeed become fake news.

I am sure this is everybody's peeve, everybody believes the opposing side gets too much coverage. While that is true, it is also true that the mainstream media has takes one side consistently and pushes a particular narrative.
 
Napa said:
BBC, NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, Guardian are not fake news insomuch they do not publish news that is false.

In reality they are fake news as they mislead their audience by selecting what to publicize. For any issue there are two sides, and if their coverage is 90% one side then they indeed become fake news.

I am sure this is everybody's peeve, everybody believes the opposing side gets too much coverage. While that is true, it is also true that the mainstream media has takes one side consistently and pushes a particular narrative.
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two side of the story means one thing is happening and the other is the justification.

SO you are saying that if there is killing happening there is some justification behind it?
 
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