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Why do Pakistan cricket fans mock terms like “Intent” and “Modern day cricket”?

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It’s becoming quite common now and equally stupid when it comes to T20 or 50 over cricket. There seems to be a great resentment to these terms and it’s used to hound/bring down players who are actually trying to match world standards

Is white ball cricket progression something that is culturally unacceptable in Pakistan or the majority cricket fans? A bit like women playing sport in Afghanistan is unacceptable?
 
What do you want to explain?

How will you define intent or lack of intent where does Salman Agha fit in terms of intent and modern cricket.

What about Sahibzada and Rizwan both loom different type of players what in theory are somewhat similar. How will you differentiate intent between them ?
 
Because we don't have the players who can play modern cricket with intent.

We either have tullaybaaz or selfish slow-pokes masquerading as 'world class' players.
 
Merely parroting the word intent means nothing if you do not have the planning, skill or execution to back it up.

Presently we do not have batsmen who can bat both aggressively and sensibly. There is a discrete lack of game awareness among the players.
 
When you have:

- Salman Ali Agha as the captain+batsman
- Sahibzada as batsman
- Usman as batsman
- Nawaz as late order “hitter”
- Naseem Shah as a bowler

Words like intent mean nothing and this in practice is the opposite of modern day cricket.

Extreme mediocrity and no place in white ball batting.
 
When you have:

- Salman Ali Agha as the captain+batsman
- Sahibzada as batsman
- Usman as batsman
- Nawaz as late order “hitter”
- Naseem Shah as a bowler

Words like intent mean nothing and this in practice is the opposite of modern day cricket.

Extreme mediocrity and no place in white ball batting.
We had this allergy to the words Intent and Modern day cricket even when you had Misbah, Babar and Rizwan as captains though?
 
Actions speak louder than words.

It is difficult to pretend you are playing a fearless brand of cricket when you are scoring no runs.

Performances of players like Haris and especially Agha let down the side and the vision of the coach. Of course people will mock if you pretend to be playing with intent but either get bowled out or limp to a low score.

That doesn't mean you go backwards though. Just need to keep going until we find the right players, but yes people will mock along the way. It's the nature of this game.
 
It is difficult to pretend you are playing a fearless brand of cricket when you are scoring no runs.
That makes no sense.

Shan Masood scored a 50 at the MCG in 2022 against India… guys like Surya, Samson, Tilak and Dube have looked clueless on the same deck.

So Shan is realistically a better white ball batsman than these guys because he scored runs?
 
It’s becoming quite common now and equally stupid when it comes to T20 or 50 over cricket. There seems to be a great resentment to these terms and it’s used to hound/bring down players who are actually trying to match world standards

Is white ball cricket progression something that is culturally unacceptable in Pakistan or the majority cricket fans? A bit like women playing sport in Afghanistan is unacceptable?
1) They do not understand the meaning of those terms and believe that whoever is advocating for that is advocating for tullaybaaz or reckless cricket

2) Their personal favorites are the main culprits of playing outdated cricket and hence, they get defensive and criticize anything that makes their favorites look bad
 
1) They do not understand the meaning of those terms and believe that whoever is advocating for that is advocating for tullaybaaz or reckless cricket

2) Their personal favorites are the main culprits of playing outdated cricket and hence, they get defensive and criticize anything that makes their favorites look bad
Finally a sensible post after 5-6 guys confirmed my suspicions about how clueless Pakistan fans are in general.
 
Actions speak louder than words.

It is difficult to pretend you are playing a fearless brand of cricket when you are scoring no runs.

Performances of players like Haris and especially Agha let down the side and the vision of the coach. Of course people will mock if you pretend to be playing with intent but either get bowled out or limp to a low score.

That doesn't mean you go backwards though. Just need to keep going until we find the right players, but yes people will mock along the way. It's the nature of this game.
Well said and this is the main point, but PCB folded and ended bringing back the likes of Babar and Usman.

The clowns today will fail, but we need some time for this template to bring out new players who can score quickly without cross-bat shots.
 
That makes no sense.

Shan Masood scored a 50 at the MCG in 2022 against India… guys like Surya, Samson, Tilak and Dube have looked clueless on the same deck.

So Shan is realistically a better white ball batsman than these guys because he scored runs?
Based on one match it is a big conclusion to take about Shan.

However, we have reasonable sample for players like Agha and Haris vs who they have replaced.

A captain who cannot bat is in charge of a team preaching intent is like putting a thief in charge of a security company. People will find it funny.
 
Well said and this is the main point, but PCB folded and ended bringing back the likes of Babar and Usman.

The clowns today will fail, but we need some time for this template to bring out new players who can score quickly without cross-bat shots.
Yeah for sure. Stick to the plan, and move forward, but we cannot be upset if people mock it for now. The team is crap. People will point fingers and laugh. PCB and coaches need to have thick skin and understand this is a long process.
 
Yeah for sure. Stick to the plan, and move forward, but we cannot be upset if people mock it for now
It’s not about being upset

It’s just a sense of realisation

How stupid is it to mock “intent” in T20? What are you supposed to do? Not play with intent in T20?
 
Yeah for sure. Stick to the plan, and move forward, but we cannot be upset if people mock it for now. The team is crap. People will point fingers and laugh. PCB and coaches need to have thick skin and understand this is a long process.
Going back to the NZ series, I think most of us knew this team won't be doing much besides establishing a mindset. The only ones getting riled up are the RizBar fanboys or neutral observers from a certain country who are understandably trolling us as we suck.

You can't just flip a switch and start dominating by dropping two or three players, it has to be systemic change and younger players coming in should know what's required of them to succeed at international level. The option of scoring your own 30-40 runs at a lower SR and keeping your place in the team based on average should be eradicated, and that's what we were trying to achieve.

Unfortunately all that has gone down the drain once again once PCB selected The Fraud once more.
 
Based on one match it is a big conclusion to take about Shan.

However, we have reasonable sample for players like Agha and Haris vs who they have replaced.

A captain who cannot bat is in charge of a team preaching intent is like putting a thief in charge of a security company. People will find it funny.
Salman Agha won't be captain for the World Cup, it will be either Shadab or Shaheen.
 
Pakistan should hire an Indian as their coach, someone like Zaheer Khan or Robin Uthappa will probably do better than a SENA coach with zero cultural familiarity..
 
That makes no sense.

Shan Masood scored a 50 at the MCG in 2022 against India… guys like Surya, Samson, Tilak and Dube have looked clueless on the same deck.

So Shan is realistically a better white ball batsman than these guys because he scored runs?
Harshit Rana score 30+ at MCG but your tullebaaz failed to score even at home.

So by your logic Harshit is better batsman the your tullebaaz.

Your analysis getting exposed day by day. 🤡🤡

:klopp :kp
 
Same reason why people mock Rizwan's " either we win or we learn " statement. Nothing wrong per se but when u lose so frequently it leads to mockery

Pakistan is stuck in no man's land. The intent folks ( Haris / Hassan Nawaz ) struggle to last 10 balls , the proper batters can only bat at max 2nd gear
 
I don’t believe Pakistan’s progression in white-ball cricket is entirely unacceptable. In fact, Pakistan was among the early adopters of T20 cricket, playing the format long before many other nations embraced it seriously. The real issue lies not in the format itself, but in the lack of a well-rounded talent pool.


To succeed in modern white-ball cricket, especially T20s, a team needs a combination of power, technique, temperament, stamina, and intelligence. Countries like those in the SENA group and India have consistently produced players who embody these traits. Even the West Indies, known for their explosive power-hitters, struggle with consistency due to shortcomings in other critical areas like temperament and tactical awareness.


Pakistan’s challenge is not just about intent or aggression—it’s about building a complete player profile. While the domestic circuit probably have some promising hitters, they often lack the other essential attributes needed to compete at the highest level. That said, introducing genuine power-hitters from domestic cricket could be a good starting point. These players might not be the finished product, but they can at least bring a sense of intent and urgency to the batting lineup, which has often looked timid or outdated.


However, this approach must be part of a broader strategy. Pakistan needs to invest in developing players who are not only aggressive but also technically sound, mentally resilient, and tactically aware. Without this holistic development, even the most promising hitters will struggle to perform consistently against top-tier opposition.


In summary, while Pakistan’s white-ball cricket isn’t beyond repair, it requires a clear vision and a commitment to nurturing complete cricketers. Starting with intent is fine—but intent alone won’t win matches. It must be backed by skill, fitness, and cricketing intelligence.
 
This is all a fallacy only thing in sport is winning ,how you win does not really matter as long as you don’t cheat
 
It’s becoming quite common now and equally stupid when it comes to T20 or 50 over cricket. There seems to be a great resentment to these terms and it’s used to hound/bring down players who are actually trying to match world standards

Is white ball cricket progression something that is culturally unacceptable in Pakistan or the majority cricket fans? A bit like women playing sport in Afghanistan is unacceptable?

Because those of us with a brain understand that hitting a 6 and then doing nothing I'm the next 5 days is pretty useless. Pseudo intent 🤡
 
When you have:

- Salman Ali Agha as the captain+batsman
- Sahibzada as batsman
- Usman as batsman
- Nawaz as late order “hitter”
- Naseem Shah as a bowler

Words like intent mean nothing and this in practice is the opposite of modern day cricket.

Extreme mediocrity and no place in white ball batting.
M. Nawaz in his career has won more big matches than Baber
 
M. Nawaz in his career has won more big matches than Baber

Some random performances against minnows and C sides don’t matter.

His spin is easily bashed by all the major teams and his batting is an absolute joke.

He plays as a hitter and allrounder lol.
 
We had this allergy to the words Intent and Modern day cricket even when you had Misbah, Babar and Rizwan as captains though?

Right, and it has to do with not producing someone who plays such cricket. When only empty words are used people make fun of them.

We simply don’t have modern day batting talent.

People are getting on the Sahibzada hype train but his planted feet with eyes closed leg side hoicks are not going to work.
 
Hahaha the biggest parrot of the word 'intent' is now complaining. This is what you get when you prefer cricketers that stat pad intent. No results to back the talk hence the criticism
 
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