Why Does Asif Ali get so much hate?

[YousafTheBeast]

Before I start, I just want to clarify that I’m not a fan of Asif Ali, and his performances weren’t up to the mark.

Asif Ali is a power hitter, he’s only going to last for around 20 balls. His role in the team is to score quick fire runs at the back end of the innings. He’s not in the team to build partnerships. He’s the kind of player that you don’t want coming in too early, but he’s the perfect player to have in the last 2-3 overs. Also, if our top order get off to a flying start then he could be pushed up the order to continue the momentum.

The problem fans have with Asif Ali is that he gets out to reckless shots, but that’s HIS FREAKIN JOB. HE’S NOT IN THE TEAM TO PLAY CLASSIC COVER DRIVE SHOTS.

His role in the team is to take risks, to play big shots, sometimes it’ll come off and sometimes it won’t.

If the top 5-6 fail to lay a foundation for the lower order to come in and hit out from ball one then don’t blame Asif Ali. I don’t want Asif Ali scoring a 20 ball 30. I want him scoring a 10 ball 30, and for that he needs to play big shots.

This guy gets way too much hate, and if we have to RELY ON ASIF ALI TO REBUILD AN INNINGS IN A T20 GAME THEN WE NEVER DESERVED TO WIN THAT GAME.

People forget, every player in the team has a different role. Compare Asif Ali to another lower order power hitter, don’t compare him to Babar or Sharjeel etc.

The question is, do we have any other lower order power hitters in the team? No. Sure Hassan Ali and Wahab can hit a few, but we really shouldn’t be relying on them to get us runs.

 

[Sher Khan]

A mediocre team like Pakistan cannot afford to play a player like him. It would be a different situation, if he was an all-rounder. At the moment, even on a good day he is only capable of a 30-40 run innings, which even Hassan and Wahab are capable of doing. So their really is no reason to play Asif.

He is not capable of smashing a 40 ball hundred in International Cricket, unless the opposition is Zimbabwe or Kenya. Let's not fool ourselves.

 

[Abdurmirr]

I think the hatred he gets is just a result of the extremely high standards and expeditions fans put on our players. The fact that only a few months after his debut their was a thread comparing him to England’s butler- the same Butler who has been the most destruction ODI finisher over the past 5 years - tells you all you need to know

I think really Asif Ali and his dominance in PSL and domestics is a representation of how low Pakistan has regressed and how low we will continue to regress without any proper structural change in our system

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Wow. I guess the standards have dropped even lower than before.

Thing about Asif Ali is that he can't even play a 10 ball 30. His T20I SR is 123. That's pathetic for any player let alone a so-called 'power-hitter'.

He gets the absolute appropriate amount of hate that he deserves because he is a horrendous player. He is a PSL bully who has never played a single match-winning knock for Pakistan. The guy has no business playing for Pakistan. I don't care what he does in the PSL, I don't want to see him in the team. We have all seen this story play out multiple times now for the last three years.

If they are so desperate to give people opportunities they should give them to Sohaib Maqsood and Iftikhar Ahmed.

 

[Concerned]

Before I start, I just want to clarify that I’m not a fan of Asif Ali, and his performances weren’t up to the mark.

Strange thread, you answered your own query with your first first line.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

A mediocre team like Pakistan cannot afford to play a player like him. It would be a different situation, if he was an all-rounder. At the moment, even on a good day he is only capable of a 30-40 run innings, which even Hassan and Wahab are capable of doing. So their really is no reason to play Asif.

He is not capable of smashing a 40 ball hundred in International Cricket, unless the opposition is Zimbabwe or Kenya. Let's not fool ourselves.

Sorry, but Pakistan isn’t a mediocre team in T20’s. We’re easily better than NZ, SA, WI, and SL. Does that make them all mediocre teams too? Only England, Australia and India would be ahead of Pakistan in T20’s.

A team like Pakistan CAN afford to play a player like Asif Ali if the other batsmen DO their jobs.

Hassan Ali isn’t in the team to score runs, his main role in the team is to take wickets. He shouldn’t be thinking about having to score runs for the team as well* The same goes for Wahab.

I can’t remember the last time a number 6 scored a T20i century for any country.

I think the hatred he gets is just a result of the extremely high standards and expeditions fans put on our players. The fact that only a few months after his debut their was a thread comparing him to England’s butler- the same Butler who has been the most destruction ODI finisher over the past 5 years - tells you all you need to know

I think really Asif Ali and his dominance in PSL and domestics is a representation of how low Pakistan has regressed and how low we will continue to regress without any proper structural change in our system

That’s a fair comment, however I’d disagree with the last part of your post. It’s the same league where some of the top overseas players have failed to perform in i.e Guptil, Faf, Gayle etc.

Wow. I guess the standards have dropped even lower than before.

Thing about Asif Ali is that he can't even play a 10 ball 30. His T20I SR is 123. That's pathetic for any player let alone a so-called 'power-hitter'.

He gets the absolute appropriate amount of hate that he deserves because he is a horrendous player. He is a PSL bully who has never played a single match-winning knock for Pakistan. The guy has no business playing for Pakistan. I don't care what he does in the PSL, I don't want to see him in the team. We have all seen this story play out multiple times now for the last three years.

If they are so desperate to give people opportunities they should give them to Sohaib Maqsood and Iftikhar Ahmed.

The type of innings expected from Asif Ali will only play out 50% of the times. He’s in the team to play as a slogger, and if it comes off it looks great, but if it doesn’t all the blame goes to him. He’s used as a scapegoat in my opinion. The real issue is with the top 5, if they can’t play 15-16 overs in a T20 game then there’s a major problem with our team.

Sohaib Maqsood has a SR of 109 in T20i.

Ifthikar Ahmed has a SR of 130 in T20i.

Strange thread, you answered your own query with your first first line.

Not really, I wasn’t questioning his exclusion from the team. I was questioning why he gets hate for playing the way he does, when in fact that’s his role in the team, to play as a hack.

 

[gazza619]

Hate is well deserved, thats all I can say. Dont want to waste my breath elaborating how beyond poor he has been

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Hate is well deserved, thats all I can say. Dont want to waste my breath elaborating how beyond poor he has been

Agreed. Tried explaining but I think its better to not explain things that are this obvious.

 

[Jazx]

Before I start, I just want to clarify that I’m not a fan of Asif Ali, and his performances weren’t up to the mark.

Asif Ali is a power hitter, he’s only going to last for around 20 balls. His role in the team is to score quick fire runs at the back end of the innings. He’s not in the team to build partnerships. He’s the kind of player that you don’t want coming in too early, but he’s the perfect player to have in the last 2-3 overs. Also, if our top order get off to a flying start then he could be pushed up the order to continue the momentum.

The problem fans have with Asif Ali is that he gets out to reckless shots, but that’s HIS FREAKIN JOB. HE’S NOT IN THE TEAM TO PLAY CLASSIC COVER DRIVE SHOTS.

His role in the team is to take risks, to play big shots, sometimes it’ll come off and sometimes it won’t.

If the top 5-6 fail to lay a foundation for the lower order to come in and hit out from ball one then don’t blame Asif Ali. I don’t want Asif Ali scoring a 20 ball 30. I want him scoring a 10 ball 30, and for that he needs to play big shots.

This guy gets way too much hate, and if we have to RELY ON ASIF ALI TO REBUILD AN INNINGS IN A T20 GAME THEN WE NEVER DESERVED TO WIN THAT GAME.

People forget, every player in the team has a different role. Compare Asif Ali to another lower order power hitter, don’t compare him to Babar or Sharjeel etc.

The question is, do we have any other lower order power hitters in the team? No. Sure Hassan Ali and Wahab can hit a few, but we really shouldn’t be relying on them to get us runs.

If he is in the team for just last 2-3 overs then he should be a specialist bowler first and then only he is justifiable, otherwise you have hasan ali who can perform the same role.

 

[Savak]

Form is temporary but class is permanent

 

[mazkhan]

No point he performs in domestics and then fails to deliver at intl level, has had lode of chances for Pakistan team.

 

[Artaxerxes]

He doesn’t perform when he plays for Pakistan.It could be due to better bowling,pitches or pressure.

 

[Major]

Im a big fan of Asif Ali, love watching him bat.
But he cant survive in international cricekt

In international teams come prepared. THey will find your weakness

Asif Ali's batting is one dimensional. EIther he will hit it or do nothing.

Another issue with PSL is that it has short boundaries and asif gets alot of runs like that.


I would invest in iftikhar as he plays cut shots aswell

 

[Yasir_ch]

Asif Ali iftikhar Ahmed khushdil Shah Danish aziz all are mediocre players with mediocre stats even in domestic cricket.This Asif Ali averages 16 with 123 strike rate in t20i and he has played more than 20 innings which means he is not good and he will never come good.

 

[Maher96]

He has not replicated 10% of this domestic ability and international level.

We need to see performance in kit green then there will be love for him too.

He has lost the team games like his dropped catches in crunch moments. Mentally unstable and character.

With that ability you would want him to have guts and fearless character which he hasn’t. Carries a timid personality around.

 

[MenInG]

And that dismissal today vs Imran Tahir is the reason for the hate...

 

[Major]

ASIFFFFFFFFF what a matchh

 

[Technics 1210]

I take back everything I ever said about Asif. What an over! One for the books.

He just needed to play 7 balls to win MOM - that's how good he was.

 

[Bewal Express]

AA played excellently. Well done.

 

[Markhor]

Listen, whatever else happens in the rest of his career - Asif Ali can always cherish these two moments vs NZL and AFG in a green shirt for the rest of his life.

I know his drop catch vs Australia became a meme at the 2019 World Cup, but never forget his baby girl died weeks before the tournament. Would any of us be in any frame of mind to compete ? God knows how many sleepless nights he endured.

He like many Pakistanis, we are usually marginalised or mocked, not considered the most talented, but are fighters to the very end despite adversity.

Well done to him.

 

[pillionrider]

Based on the comments, his history isn't great, but amazing two games. This is what Kohli and the hype brigade have been claiming Hardik can do for India, but has yet to do in national colours :shardulthakur

 

[PakLFC]

He's doing the business at the moment hitting sixers for fun. Perhaps previously he was off form that he wasn't performing. Today he was just awesome.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

A perfect example of what confidence can do to a player.

He is the only successful batting product of PSL till now.

 

[sweep_shot]

He deserved the criticisms before as he didn't fulfill his potential.

But, he is on fire now. He should be praised now.

 

[Bewal Express]

AA must be commended for these 2 innings and shown that he can finish. But we have also seen poor performances from him and although those don't matter now because of these wins, he does need to be more consistency against top bowlers.

 

[Major]

Waseem saying these fans used to bash Misbah for selecting Asif and Iftikhar. They used to call Asif and Iftikhar as parchi.

Now today Asif is laughing at these fans that bashed him.

Asif gave credit to Misbah specially and he would always be thankful to him

 

[mazkhan]

I must say I eat humble pie today he was a butler .

Although I still await if he can do this against likes of England, Australia, South africa

But he is having a great tournament ,may long his form continue

 

[Major]

I must say I eat humble pie today he was a butler .

Although I still await if he can do this against likes of England, Australia, South africa

But he is having a great tournament ,may long his form continue

he did it against NZ? You cant be selective by saying if he can do it against so and so.

 

[Sirris]

After 3 sixes i thought he will surely edge one for a catch

Did not expect a Pakistani player to go all in and win it in the same over from that position

 

[moghul]

I have to confess , I have written many posts against him , particularly after his recent form in CPL, where won;t make a double digit score. Glad he proved me so wrong and I'm sure many other feel the same way.

His career got a new life after this WC, so much exposure. I'm sure with Afridi and Rauf, he will be another very sought after player in T20 leagues.

 

[topspin]

Listen, whatever else happens in the rest of his career - Asif Ali can always cherish these two moments vs NZL and AFG in a green shirt for the rest of his life.

I know his drop catch vs Australia became a meme at the 2019 World Cup, but never forget his baby girl died weeks before the tournament. Would any of us be in any frame of mind to compete ? God knows how many sleepless nights he endured.

He like many Pakistanis, we are usually marginalised or mocked, not considered the most talented, but are fighters to the very end despite adversity.

Well done to him.

Once again a wonderful post by a wonderful poster.

I've never understood the hate for Asif Ali. If the top order fails, you can't blame this man.

Some of the hate he's got on this forum is honestly unforgivable. I still remember the hate he was getting during the WC. He clearly wasn't in the right state of mind after the tragic loss of his baby daughter.

I never stopped believing in Asif Ali even during his worst days. This guy is a source of inspiration.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I must say I owe Asif Ali an apology. He got so much hate from me and other fans. But he repaid all the faith put in him and delivered when Pakistan needed him most. Twice.

Great deal of credit does go to Misbah who backed him throughout. But ultimately it is Asif who delivered and did justice to that faith.

Well done lad.

 

[QuickCrick]

So many would have taken that single at the end but he backed himself, took responsibility and delivered. Impressed ! One thing I would say is they bowled to his strength but regardless it takes bottle…

 

[TeymurBlake]

Those sixes were amazing. What a innings. Now I am not his biggest fan but I must say he played a solid innings.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I think Pakistan should give sadqa for Asif Ali. ) I used to bash him so much.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

It’s safe to say, I’m now an Asif Ali fan.

 

[Major]

Just so you guys know, Asif Ali caused 4 wickets to fall today..

 

[MenInG]

Played a great innings for Quetta.

 

[Major]

Played a great innings for Quetta.

the fact that he is the vice captain and each time a run out happened he was bashing the other player.

Just terrible really. Pathetic attitude

 

[Ahmad1996]

Singlehandedly cost IU the match.

 

[A.A.Z]

Just so you guys know, Asif Ali caused 4 wickets to fall today..

I thought 3. His own dismissal along with the 2 run outs. Which was the 4th?

 

[Major]

I thought 3. His own dismissal along with the 2 run outs. Which was the 4th?

if the hales out didnt happen akhlaq would had not gotten out

 

[gazza619]

I had the feeling that Asif Ali’s 6 sixes in WT20 would mean disaster for every team he plays in the future. Teams would never drop him thinking that a match winning knock is round the corner.

 

[Saj]

Averaging 11 so far in the PSL.

Disappointing so far in PSL7.

 

[moghul]

Enough of him , don;t know why IU keep picking him in 11.

 

[Major]

Enough of him , don;t know why IU keep picking him in 11.

why not, hes a good player to hit sixes.. HE will play alll matches of psl inshalllah

 

[Major]

I take my words back on him now

the reason why Ben stokes is famous is because of his calculative approach towards a chase. David wiese was gonna bowl the last over no matter what, Asif could had taken a single or a double and it was just last over striking that was needed.

He will continue to be the most hated player ever

 

[asadee]

He is an absolutely brainless cricketer

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Enough of him , don;t know why IU keep picking him in 11.

have a look at the team sheet.

He is the vice captain lol..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I take my words back on him now

the reason why Ben stokes is famous is because of his calculative approach towards a chase. David wiese was gonna bowl the last over no matter what, Asif could had taken a single or a double and it was just last over striking that was needed.

He will continue to be the most hated player ever

Been saying for years that he belongs to the gully mohalla league not intl standards..

Padosi's will roflmao if the hitter from Pakistan is Asif ali..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

How come this thread didnt have this. Is the epic drop catch from 2019 WC.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PraiseTheCameraMan/comments/hn46nm/and_a_meme_is_born/

Thank you

 

[ZaidTR]

Things like this happen. Probably under pressure

 

[Major]

How come this thread didnt have this. Is the epic drop catch from 2019 WC.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PraiseTheCameraMan/comments/hn46nm/and_a_meme_is_born/

Thank you

ok, yes i am gutted with Asif Ali, and so are many Isloo fans.

But no need to discuss the world cup 2019. He played that tournament knowing what his family was going through. No need to bring up the past events as the guy had to play through such a tough time. Even the guy who became the meme out of that drop catch also acknowledge that look we all know what asif was going through at the time so cant critisize him in that

 

[Ahmed216]

Sad to see a brainless cricketer being picked and relied upon in Pak side

 

[gazza619]

He has proved again that those few sixes he hit in WT20 will haunt all the teams he plays for..

 

[PakPremi]

I was never convinced with his temperament.

 

[Saj]

Absolutely awful PSL7

11 innings and just 137 runs. Average of 13.70 and a strike rate of 130

One trick pony at PSL 7.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

I’d still take him to the WT20, can’t drop him based on one poor season in the PSL.

 

[syedfaraz5]

Useless batsman i would rather play khushdil shah in my team instead of this so called power hitter.

 

[Rana]

I’d still take him to the WT20, can’t drop him based on one poor season in the PSL.

Exactly

You have to drop Babar too if that’s the case. Also Rizwan’s strike rate isn’t much to write about

 

[world cup captain]

Probably the most brainless player to have played for Pakistan. Single-handedly threw away the game.

 

[shamaan]

I’d still take him to the WT20, can’t drop him based on one poor season in the PSL.

He didn't even play 1 match winning Innings such as 30 of 15 balls.

 

[shamaan]

Exactly

You have to drop Babar too if that’s the case. Also Rizwan’s strike rate isn’t much to write about

Babar role was different and rizwan role.

 

[moghul]

Hope we will not pay the price of Asif's two innings in last T20 WC by keep selecting him again in national team. He is brainless and so predictable in his shots, no wonder every team knows how to get him out cheaply.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I’d still take him to the WT20, can’t drop him based on one poor season in the PSL.

Ok he is selected for his power hitting , what is his SR?

He hits a six and eats next 5 balls to make it 6 runs in 6 balls.

Waste of space in the team. I say it again and again he is a gully mohalla tape ball cricketer not an intl player , had played so far nearly 30+ games in intl cricket with Misbahs backing and he is still the same old Asif ali.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Hope we will not pay the price of Asif's two innings in last T20 WC by keep selecting him again in national team. He is brainless and so predictable in his shots, no wonder every team knows how to get him out cheaply.

Why is it to not so obvious yet for the Pakistan think tank baffles me.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I’d still take him to the WT20, can’t drop him based on one poor season in the PSL.

Ya and take ur favourite Umar akmal too.

Can take both UA and Asif to play and they will win the WT20 single handedly.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Absolutely awful PSL7

11 innings and just 137 runs. Average of 13.70 and a strike rate of 130

One trick pony at PSL 7.

Isn’t that his career avg and SR .. he is already doing justice to what he is capable of , only fans and supporters demand more than what he can achieve, being delusional.

 

[Maher96]

Bowling has been his only highlight in this years PSL. Completely failed. May be it might be good to get some more options in his position. Some names that come to mind are Umar, Azam or Kushdil.

 

[Concerned]

Given the choice, I would rather have a 36 years old David Wiese playing rather than Asif Ali. He has been really poor.

 

[Daoud]

For some reason I see Asif Ali and Iftikhar Ahmed as almost the same player. Iftikhar is the better bowler and fielder and probably has been a little more consistent at the international level, but both have had similar struggles adopting to that level.

So it was somewhat fitting to see both of them right next to each other on the score charts with very similar outputs

Iftikhar Ahmed	10	9	1	138	52	17.25	109	126.60	0	1	0	5	7
(Quetta Gladiators)
Asif Ali	12	11	1	137	28	13.70	105	130.47	0	0	0	5	11
(Islamabad United)

 

[gazza619]

For some reason I see Asif Ali and Iftikhar Ahmed as almost the same player. Iftikhar is the better bowler and fielder and probably has been a little more consistent at the international level, but both have had similar struggles adopting to that level.

So it was somewhat fitting to see both of them right next to each other on the score charts with very similar outputs

Iftikhar Ahmed	10	9	1	138	52	17.25	109	126.60	0	1	0	5	7
(Quetta Gladiators)
Asif Ali	12	11	1	137	28	13.70	105	130.47	0	0	0	5	11
(Islamabad United)

It is an insult to Iftikhar (a solid domestic performer) to be compared to Asif Ali (a brainless slogger).

 

[shamaan]

For some reason I see Asif Ali and Iftikhar Ahmed as almost the same player. Iftikhar is the better bowler and fielder and probably has been a little more consistent at the international level, but both have had similar struggles adopting to that level.

So it was somewhat fitting to see both of them right next to each other on the score charts with very similar outputs

Iftikhar Ahmed	10	9	1	138	52	17.25	109	126.60	0	1	0	5	7
(Quetta Gladiators)
Asif Ali	12	11	1	137	28	13.70	105	130.47	0	0	0	5	11
(Islamabad United)

Iftikhar can bat in different positions pluss he can play all formats.

Asif Ali can only play in 1 position.

 

[Saj]

I was speaking with a friend about Asif Ali and his argument is that Asif isn't given enough balls to face and a proper chance to build an innings.

Fair comment?

 

[Cric1234]

I was speaking with a friend about Asif Ali and his argument is that Asif isn't given enough balls to face and a proper chance to build an innings.

Fair comment?

No Asif is technically not good enough against all bowling to be an opener or no 3 batsman unfortunately the ability isn’t there no matter what is done hitting some boundaries is his only strength.

 

[transparent opacity]

Back in the side for the series decider.

Let's hope he makes an impact. His last few outings haven't been fruitful.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I was speaking with a friend about Asif Ali and his argument is that Asif isn't given enough balls to face and a proper chance to build an innings.

Fair comment?

Not a fair comment... He has been given ample chances with enough balls to face and he failed in all that games.. Moreover he looked awful in those games, plays the same shot to get out, he is weak against any bowling,

For no reason he is getting picked again and again ever since Misbah made that a habit when he was a selector, now Wasim doing the same.. He had a very poor PSL7 , but still find himself in the LOI squad..

His 4 sixers against Jannat will haunt Pakistan more...

His record speaks for himself.. if the same said for Shadab and Imad its fair but also it is their mistake to hide lower down the order..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Iftikhar can bat in different positions pluss he can play all formats.

Asif Ali can only play in 1 position.

Anyone can play all formats if continues to get selected... Performance matters..

Bring the stats of Ifthikar in all formats to support he is all format player...

All domestic bullies cannot survive in intl cricket.. Imran Farhat is a great example for that, he is a legend in domestics but in intl not even a regular player..

 

[PakPremi]

The title should be Why does Asif Ali get so many chances.

 

[TheSultan]

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