Why does Babar Azam get criticism despite scoring tons but Hafeez & Malik avoid criticism?

[Mehndi155]

Our fans blindly love shoiab malik and hafeez two of the passengers in team even after so many failure pak keeps on persisting why because they dont get crictise by fans so they are ok with the team. When we will get rid of these oldies

 

[waleed88]

Our fans blindly love shoiab malik and hafeez two of the passengers in team even after so many failure pak keeps on persisting why because they dont get crictise by fans so they are ok with the team. When we will get rid of these oldies

The answer is Hafeez and Malik have atleast finished off games for Pakistan and Babar is supposed to be the future of the team, while these players are on their last legs.

Hafeez made a match winning 75 off 70 balls against South Africa in the first ODI.

Malik has chased some decent games for Pakistan.

I haven't yet to see Babar contribute in a meaningful way in a big run chase for us. This is his 4th year in the Pakistan team.

 

[Chokli]

The answer is Hafeez and Malik have atleast finished off games for Pakistan and Babar is supposed to be the future of the team, while these players are on their last legs.

Hafeez made a match winning 75 off 70 balls against South Africa in the first ODI.

Malik has chased some decent games for Pakistan.

I haven't yet to see Babar contribute in a meaningful way in a big run chase for us. This is his 4th year in the Pakistan team.

Babar won us a match vs England in a 2015 scoring 60 odd. That's all I can think of

 

[Stewie]

I think we are overly critical of our batting at the moment. I think we do fall
Short by 20-30 runs every game but quite honestly, the way our bowling is performing, it doesn’t make any difference in the end. We need to score 50/60 at least above par score to make a fist of it.

Fans are totally misguided when they bash Imam, Babar, etc.

 

[amoni]

I am critical of Babar because that's the one I have any umeed from.

 

[Smbhayi]

bcz they aren't scoring centuries...

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I would like this thread to be worded differently.

"Why do Pakistani batsmen keep scoring centuries and we still end up on the losing side?"

 

[Darkrai]

Unlike Hafeez and Malik, people have expectations from Babar Azam because of how talented he is. People can see he is not doing justice to his talent when he shows lack of intent or is too focused on his 100. Even if he is just following the plans set by the team management

 

[MMHS]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

 

[Mehndi155]

The answer is Hafeez and Malik have atleast finished off games for Pakistan and Babar is supposed to be the future of the team, while these players are on their last legs.

Hafeez made a match winning 75 off 70 balls against South Africa in the first ODI.

Malik has chased some decent games for Pakistan.

I haven't yet to see Babar contribute in a meaningful way in a big run chase for us. This is his 4th year in the Pakistan team.

Hafeez and malik are nothing but bits and pieces players.
What do u expect from a guy?
He batted today at no 3 and scored over strike rate of 100 where ur malik scored at snail' pace .malik threw it away. At 44 from 60 odd balls but still babar faced the crictism

 

[last_knight]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

You think the question was supposed to target BA ?

Or one of Imam/Malik/Hafeez ? What if BA had mentioned his SR was better than some .

 

[Mehndi155]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

Spot on

 

[adil79]

typical national mentality, those who do hard work, must do more.

Like those who pay taxes, must contribute more
those who pay bills of electricity, must compensate utilities for the theft
i could go on.

there may be some truth in babar getting bit selfish, but it's the general hypocrisy of our nation to expect more out of those who work for this country, instead of asking from those who are free loaders, like hafeez & malik.

Can someone share when was the last time, malik & hafeez won us a match?

If our bowlers failed, it's only logical to question more from our batsmen.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Probably because of expectations. No one expect Malik or Hafeez to become world beaters over night. Babar, on the other hand, is constantly compared with the likes of Kohli, Williamson and Smith so obviously people expect more from him. He scores a hundred, ppl think he could've/should've scored 150 and when we ultimately end up on the losing side ppl often wounder what if Babar scored those extra 50 runs.

 

[AAli98]

The scary thing is whenever Baba & Imam score the opposition tend to get 1 more run- hence 11 losses in a row.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I feel that Hafeez and Malik are underutilized as bowlers by Sarfraz.

 

[Energy]

Very valid point. It is understandable if there is a fan bias towards some players, but it is absolutely shocking if there is a management board bias towards certain players. And that's exactly what has been happening in Pakistan cricket.

Even the media analysts and commies are too embarrassed to criticise Malik and Hafeez and have to skew their views on them to make Pakistan look OKish in public eye.

 

[Saj]

This is the lad whose Pakistan's batting hopes hang on.

In truth he's the only hope.

Fakhar will be brilliant occasionally but this lad is brilliant.

 

[CS Khan]

I think problem lies more in Bowling these days ,also sometimes out captain becomes defensive in field setting also.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

I think it's being done deliberately, world cup is where the money is made.

I have yet to hear anyone criticize Hafeez or Malik. Both are below par....

 

[amvbfm]

Because most of our fans and supposed "experts and journalists" don't understand the game and would gladly applaud a fluky 30 of 20 by Fakhar but criticize a solid century by Babar. Nobody thought about criticizing the main culprit of the match the captain (and the team management) himself but Babar who was perhaps the only player who played to his potential in this match is being criticized. It is shocking but knowing our fans and experts it really isn't.

Yesterday's loss was entirely because of our captain extraordinaire. Let Shaheen be drubbed, continued with defensive field settings until the match had pretty much been lost, underbowled Hafeez and Amir, gave Shadab the penultimate over when the ball was reverse swinging and the list goes on. It was as if he wasn't interested in winning. I would have been ok with that if he had lost experimenting but barring the extraordinarily stupid decision to give Shadab the 49th he pretty much did things exactly the way he does every game.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

Nailed it

 

[Khan12]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

Who's the second quality player.

 

[MRSN]

Unlike Hafeez and Malik, people have expectations from Babar Azam because of how talented he is. People can see he is not doing justice to his talent when he shows lack of intent or is too focused on his 100. Even if he is just following the plans set by the team management

Yes being talented is his fault too now. Should have been mediocre like captain or most senior Malik.

 

[MRSN]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

Don't talk too much logic bhai. We don't have that good IQ to understand this. Other day Imam scored 150 and yer Pakistanis were bashing him because we lost. Amazing how some people can't comprehend basic things.

 

[MRSN]

Because most of our fans and supposed "experts and journalists" don't understand the game and would gladly applaud a fluky 30 of 20 by Fakhar but criticize a solid century by Babar. Nobody thought about criticizing the main culprit of the match the captain (and the team management) himself but Babar who was perhaps the only player who played to his potential in this match is being criticized. It is shocking but knowing our fans and experts it really isn't.

Yesterday's loss was entirely because of our captain extraordinaire. Let Shaheen be drubbed, continued with defensive field settings until the match had pretty much been lost, underbowled Hafeez and Amir, gave Shadab the penultimate over when the ball was reverse swinging and the list goes on. It was as if he wasn't interested in winning. I would have been ok with that if he had lost experimenting but barring the extraordinarily stupid decision to give Shadab the 49th he pretty much did things exactly the way he does every game.

You can't blame a generation of Afridi fans not to appreciate talent like Baber.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

The answer is Hafeez and Malik have atleast finished off games for Pakistan and Babar is supposed to be the future of the team, while these players are on their last legs.

Hafeez made a match winning 75 off 70 balls against South Africa in the first ODI.

Malik has chased some decent games for Pakistan.

I haven't yet to see Babar contribute in a meaningful way in a big run chase for us. This is his 4th year in the Pakistan team.

ct 17 played vital role against SA
pak vs WI 2nd odi match winnig 125*

 

[Sunny_majoka]

I would like this thread to be worded differently.

"Why do Pakistani batsmen keep scoring centuries and we still end up on the losing side?"

here's your answer
because of pathetic bowling and rubbish fielding

 

[Khwaja78]

This is definitely hilarious as I never thought these 2 pathetic seniors will be overshadowed by a youngster.
Babar Azam is the only player that holds back his shots to deny team total and RR the impetus it needs to reach a target according to the standard displayed by other teams incl. Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

Once he closes in 10-15 runs from 50 or 100 he plays 10+ dots with a strike rate of 50-60. Azam btw plays most dots in comparison to other #3 batting position players.

Not all of it is his fault, Micki Arthur and Inzamam both have devised a role for him although he would never make any other world side due to his selfish game or pathetic technique on a wicket with bit of seam or moisture.

The only T20 player who frustrates viewers by his game. Fans are also frustrated by how these 3 mentioned players have literally get into the team. If Khaled Latif and Sharjeel Khan would'nt have gotten banned Azam and Imam or Hafeez would not come even in the squad.

There is an opinion Babar Azam alongwith Hafeez and Malik are backed by certain forces which has made Pakistan cricket suffer. All players have been rested but Azam somehow they've been too insecure to drop him.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

This is definitely hilarious as I never thought these 2 pathetic seniors will be overshadowed by a youngster.
Babar Azam is the only player that holds back his shots to deny team total and RR the impetus it needs to reach a target according to the standard displayed by other teams incl. Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

Once he closes in 10-15 runs from 50 or 100 he plays 10+ dots with a strike rate of 50-60. Azam btw plays most dots in comparison to other #3 batting position players.

Not all of it is his fault, Micki Arthur and Inzamam both have devised a role for him although he would never make any other world side due to his selfish game or pathetic technique on a wicket with bit of seam or moisture.

The only T20 player who frustrates viewers by his game. Fans are also frustrated by how these 3 mentioned players have literally get into the team. If Khaled Latif and Sharjeel Khan would'nt have gotten banned Azam and Imam or Hafeez would not come even in the squad.

There is an opinion Babar Azam alongwith Hafeez and Malik are backed by certain forces which has made Pakistan cricket suffer. All players have been rested but Azam somehow they've been too insecure to drop him.

That has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on PP.

Surely you are joking?

 

[Khwaja78]

That has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on PP.

Surely you are joking?

Hahaha MeanandGreen with an Indian player dp. Very unusual profil don't worry social media will be flooded with more such posts post Windies match hope to see you around then. These joke ways to discredit someones opinion without giving a response has really helped Azams and Imams for far too long.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

Its Pakistani culture to just blame the batsmen for everything.

Lets forget that the opposition is 0-75 after 10 overs every time we bowl. Lets forget we have we have one of the worst fielding units in the world.

The batsman aren't perfect, but the bowling and fielding is the major problem here and its time people accepted it instead of living in a delusion where the character of guys who are going out there and hitting 100s day in day out is being questioned.

Inept fans for an inept cricket team.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

Hahaha MeanandGreen with an Indian player dp. Very unusual profil don't worry social media will be flooded with more such posts post Windies match hope to see you around then. These joke ways to discredit someones opinion without giving a response has really helped Azams and Imams for far too long.

Your post isn't worthy of a response.

 

[Khwaja78]

Your post isn't worthy of a response.

Then why did you quote and respond rofl?

 

[Green Patriot]

Your post isn't worthy of a response.

This poster is a certified Babar hater.
He hates on Babar without reason instead of constructively criticizing on weaknesses and praising on the strengths like any regular person.
He will find a way to criticize Babar if he would score 500(200) and i am not even joking.Any and everything that goes wrong with the team is somehow Babar's fault,always.
Dont pay heed to his bogus logic.

 

[GreenKhan]

I disagree with the notion that people love Hafeez and Malik . Both are considered bang average players by most fans and many would have not even been complaining if they were not selected for the World Cup .

I also disagree with the notion that Babar has not won any matches for Pakistan. Why is it that we consider a hundred in the first innings of a one day match as not match winning ? I can recall a few tons from Babar which have led to Pakistan making a decent score and ultimately winning a match .

Hafeez and Malik combined played 500 one matches for Pak , and much more often than not they have failed at the biggest stage .

If Babar scores he is dammmed if he does not he is dammed .

 

[amvbfm]

This is definitely hilarious as I never thought these 2 pathetic seniors will be overshadowed by a youngster.
Babar Azam is the only player that holds back his shots to deny team total and RR the impetus it needs to reach a target according to the standard displayed by other teams incl. Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

Once he closes in 10-15 runs from 50 or 100 he plays 10+ dots with a strike rate of 50-60. Azam btw plays most dots in comparison to other #3 batting position players.

Not all of it is his fault, Micki Arthur and Inzamam both have devised a role for him although he would never make any other world side due to his selfish game or pathetic technique on a wicket with bit of seam or moisture.

The only T20 player who frustrates viewers by his game. Fans are also frustrated by how these 3 mentioned players have literally get into the team. If Khaled Latif and Sharjeel Khan would'nt have gotten banned Azam and Imam or Hafeez would not come even in the squad.

There is an opinion Babar Azam alongwith Hafeez and Malik are backed by certain forces which has made Pakistan cricket suffer. All players have been rested but Azam somehow they've been too insecure to drop him.

You described your own post within its first sentence. Mentioning Khalid Latif and Babar Azam in the same sentence, let alone claiming the former to be better qualifies this to be the most hilarious post that I've read here recently.

 

[amvbfm]

You can't blame a generation of Afridi fans not to appreciate talent like Baber.

Sad really what these stick cricket leagues have done to the game.

 

[Khwaja78]

You described your own post within its first sentence. Mentioning Khalid Latif and Babar Azam in the same sentence, let alone claiming the former to be better qualifies this to be the most hilarious post that I've read here recently.

What is hilarious about it, Khalid Latif has much better strike rate as well as average of 77 under Sarfraz Ahmed plus he finished the game as well as hit spinners for six in death overs unlike selfish Azam knocking around 1s to get to his 50.

Azam's rare cover drives that contribute to team's defeats dont add any value to us.
Even a young SL or AFg player is above Azam, they never consider their own score when going for the team total.

 

[MMHS]

Who's the second quality player.

Mo Amir - he is probably better than Wasim Akram, if you take Hasan Ali is parallel to Waquar at prime and Hasnain is Shoaib's replacement .....

 

[MMHS]

You think the question was supposed to target BA ?

Or one of Imam/Malik/Hafeez ? What if BA had mentioned his SR was better than some .

The intention (Of the Jurno) was to take frustration out of Babar, and make him feel bad. Had Babar mentioned the SR, then follow-up comment would have been - "it didn't win us the game ... what's the point (keya faida), if you keep scoring personal milestones and team looses? Babar can't win this battle.

For this question, Babar's appropriate answer would have been .... there are other players in the team and they did a jack - 2 seniors, our Captain, both openers ......., but obviously he can't say that.

Ideally, that jurno should have asked, despite your efforts, still team was all-out 13 balls earlier and we lost the game for that - how can we cover such situations in future? Babar himself would have answered that - I should have stayed longer and guide the tail towards 300.

 

[amvbfm]

What is hilarious about it, Khalid Latif has much better strike rate as well as average of 77 under Sarfraz Ahmed plus he finished the game as well as hit spinners for six in death overs unlike selfish Azam knocking around 1s to get to his 50.

Azam's rare cover drives that contribute to team's defeats dont add any value to us.
Even a young SL or AFg player is above Azam, they never consider their own score when going for the team total.

Please do remind me when in his grand career of 5 ODIs he went on to finish a game? And average of 77? He only ever made 147 runs in his entire career.

 

[Afhan Ali]

This is definitely hilarious as I never thought these 2 pathetic seniors will be overshadowed by a youngster.
Babar Azam is the only player that holds back his shots to deny team total and RR the impetus it needs to reach a target according to the standard displayed by other teams incl. Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

Once he closes in 10-15 runs from 50 or 100 he plays 10+ dots with a strike rate of 50-60. Azam btw plays most dots in comparison to other #3 batting position players.

Not all of it is his fault, Micki Arthur and Inzamam both have devised a role for him although he would never make any other world side due to his selfish game or pathetic technique on a wicket with bit of seam or moisture.

The only T20 player who frustrates viewers by his game. Fans are also frustrated by how these 3 mentioned players have literally get into the team. If Khaled Latif and Sharjeel Khan would'nt have gotten banned Azam and Imam or Hafeez would not come even in the squad.

There is an opinion Babar Azam alongwith Hafeez and Malik are backed by certain forces which has made Pakistan cricket suffer. All players have been rested but Azam somehow they've been too insecure to drop him.

The most hilarious post ever on pp

 

[Abdullah719]

Please do remind me when in his grand career of 5 ODIs he went on to finish a game? And average of 77? He only ever made 147 runs in his entire career.

He's referring to T20Is.

Stats under different captains:

With a highest of 59* and now banned for fixing, I fail to see any upside.

 

[Technics 1210]

I would like this thread to be worded differently.

"Why do Pakistani batsmen keep scoring centuries and we still end up on the losing side?"

Bowling.

This is pretty obvious from the England series of late.

 

[Chokli]

He's referring to T20Is.

Stats under different captains:

With a highest of 59* and now banned for fixing, I fail to see any upside.

Not to mention he single handedly cost us the match versus Australia in 2016.

He played 44 balls for his 46 or so runs chasing 190 odd

 

[Mujtaba2900]

This is definitely hilarious as I never thought these 2 pathetic seniors will be overshadowed by a youngster.
Babar Azam is the only player that holds back his shots to deny team total and RR the impetus it needs to reach a target according to the standard displayed by other teams incl. Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

Once he closes in 10-15 runs from 50 or 100 he plays 10+ dots with a strike rate of 50-60. Azam btw plays most dots in comparison to other #3 batting position players.

Not all of it is his fault, Micki Arthur and Inzamam both have devised a role for him although he would never make any other world side due to his selfish game or pathetic technique on a wicket with bit of seam or moisture.

The only T20 player who frustrates viewers by his game. Fans are also frustrated by how these 3 mentioned players have literally get into the team. If Khaled Latif and Sharjeel Khan would'nt have gotten banned Azam and Imam or Hafeez would not come even in the squad.

There is an opinion Babar Azam alongwith Hafeez and Malik are backed by certain forces which has made Pakistan cricket suffer. All players have been rested but Azam somehow they've been too insecure to drop him.

Wew.Look At this Comment.he Has no dea What He Is talking about

 

[Khwaja78]

He's referring to T20Is.

Stats under different captains:

With a highest of 59* and now banned for fixing, I fail to see any upside.

Please read the report first he was'nt prime accused in spotfixing, he was charged and handed over ban for 10 years for not cooperating with the tribunal that deliberated on charges still no one knows. Same biased tribunal never charged Umar Akmal where NAtl. Crime Agency of UK gave evidence against.

Check the amount of matches Khalid Latif played, he was taken out of the team after scoring 68 whereas Babar Azam was still kept with the team even after flopping against the weak Windies where he kept edging into the slips in Test format. 3 players + Asif Zakir were selected and then deselected without getting a single game just to keep this great selfish [layer. His average went below 20 yet was not dropped.


Khalid latif alongwith countless others were'nt even given 10% of opportunities as they were not politically backed. Shahzaib Hasan, Ashfaq so many came and then were thrown out never nurtured or supported in favor of this strokeless wonder Azam who can't even hit in a spreadout field.

 

[Abdullah719]

Please read the report first he was'nt prime accused in spotfixing, he was charged and handed over ban for 10 years for not cooperating with the tribunal that deliberated on charges still no one knows. Same biased tribunal never charged Umar Akmal where NAtl. Crime Agency of UK gave evidence against.

Check the amount of matches Khalid Latif played, he was taken out of the team after scoring 68 whereas Babar Azam was still kept with the team even after flopping against the weak Windies where he kept edging into the slips in Test format. 3 players + Asif Zakir were selected and then deselected without getting a single game just to keep this great selfish [layer. His average went below 20 yet was not dropped.


Khalid latif alongwith countless others were'nt even given 10% of opportunities as they were not politically backed. Shahzaib Hasan, Ashfaq so many came and then were thrown out never nurtured or supported in favor of this strokeless wonder Azam who can't even hit in a spreadout field.

So your point is that Khalid Latif didn't fix, should be unbanned and he should replace Babar Azam in the team?

Just for the record, he has a lower strike-rate than Babar in both T20s and T20Is.

 

[moghul]

Its a personality trait, some people enjoy criticizing everyone. One player cannot win matches for you but Babar is bringing us closer. With a little help from others on consistent basis is badly needed to win matches.

 

[amvbfm]

He's referring to T20Is.

Stats under different captains:

With a highest of 59* and now banned for fixing, I fail to see any upside.

Although those stats are pretty meaningless there was never any comparison. Even if Latif had continued playing there is no way he would have been half as good as Babar. But we can't convince someone so biased.

 

[Khwaja78]

Although those stats are pretty meaningless there was never any comparison. Even if Latif had continued playing there is no way he would have been half as good as Babar. But we can't convince someone so biased.

You're not only biased but trying to turn a blind eye to the players eradicated by Inzamam for Babar selfish Azam.

People like you are the reason Pakistan team are in this situation they neither can win nor compete with top 5 teams.

 

[Khwaja78]

So your point is that Khalid Latif didn't fix, should be unbanned and he should replace Babar Azam in the team?

Just for the record, he has a lower strike-rate than Babar in both T20s and T20Is.

Rofl Tribunal had to change their rules to protect their proceedings from Pakistani legal system. To this day it is a mystery to the media what happened. Not only Khalid LAtif , Sharjeel but opening batsman Shahzaib Hasan career also was finished in this saga. You wrongly posted Latif was banned for fixing although he did not even play the PSL match, he was banned for not cooperating and refusing to support the fixing allegations.

 

[Abdullah719]

Rofl Tribunal had to change their rules to protect their proceedings from Pakistani legal system. To this day it is a mystery to the media what happened. Not only Khalid LAtif , Sharjeel but opening batsman Shahzaib Hasan career also was finished in this saga. You wrongly posted Latif was banned for fixing although he did not even play the PSL match, he was banned for not cooperating and refusing to support the fixing allegations.

Sorry, I should have stated 'fixing-related'. Regardless, the fact is that he is currently banned. Whether that was warranted or not, however, is not my area of expertise.

Back to the topic at hand: Your views regarding Babar aren't really standing up to scrutiny.

 

[Pete Rose]

There is no amount of blame that falls short when it comes to malik and hafeez. Playing international cricket for 20 years means you HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BAIL OUT YOUR TEAM 9 OUT 10 TIMES.
Every fifty or any score that malik or hafeez put on that doesnt result in the team winning is useless.

 

[Khwaja78]

Sorry, I should have stated 'fixing-related'. Regardless, the fact is that he is currently banned. Whether that was warranted or not, however, is not my area of expertise.

Back to the topic at hand: Your views regarding Babar aren't really standing up to scrutiny.

Regardless of my views Babar Azam will not be in the team for long, his shenanigans won't last. Whoever has supported him and discarded other players making sure they never get foothold in the team like inzamam will have to face public wrath.

 

[Abdullah719]

Regardless of my views Babar Azam will not be in the team for long, his shenanigans won't last. Whoever has supported him and discarded other players making sure they never get foothold in the team like inzamam will have to face public wrath.

On the contrary, I'd say that he'll be part of the team for a very long time, in all 3 formats.

We can revisit these posts in a few years to see who was right!

 

[Khwaja78]

On the contrary, I'd say that he'll be part of the team for a very long time, in all 3 formats.

We can revisit these posts in a few years to see who was right!

You can back him all you want his presence will destroy the team and reward sefishness. In few years if he remains Pakistan won't be even in top 8 while he will have many selfish centuries with a 60 strike rate.

And I've followed Pakistan's system no ones is dispensable here

 

[Abdullah719]

You can back him all you want his presence will destroy the team and reward sefishness. In few years if he remains Pakistan won't be even in top 8 while he will have many selfish centuries with a 60 strike rate.

Ok.

 

[Chokli]

Please read the report first he was'nt prime accused in spotfixing, he was charged and handed over ban for 10 years for not cooperating with the tribunal that deliberated on charges still no one knows. Same biased tribunal never charged Umar Akmal where NAtl. Crime Agency of UK gave evidence against.

Check the amount of matches Khalid Latif played, he was taken out of the team after scoring 68 whereas Babar Azam was still kept with the team even after flopping against the weak Windies where he kept edging into the slips in Test format. 3 players + Asif Zakir were selected and then deselected without getting a single game just to keep this great selfish [layer. His average went below 20 yet was not dropped.


Khalid latif alongwith countless others were'nt even given 10% of opportunities as they were not politically backed. Shahzaib Hasan, Ashfaq so many came and then were thrown out never nurtured or supported in favor of this strokeless wonder Azam who can't even hit in a spreadout field.

Khalid Latif was awful

 

[Hasan123]

Sarfraz ,Malik,and Hafeez deserve more critiscm than Babar. At least Babar may improve. These 3 seniors play on name and not on performance.

 

[amvbfm]

You're not only biased but trying to turn a blind eye to the players eradicated by Inzamam for Babar selfish Azam.

People like you are the reason Pakistan team are in this situation they neither can win nor compete with top 5 teams.

Friend, seriously, now you are just embarrassing yourself. I am not biased. On the contrary I try to put my biases aside when judging a player. You are the one who is unable to see the guys talent, most probably due to some non-cricketing reason. And please don't give me the S/R argument, the guy has a strike rate of 86 over his career which is more than fine for a number 3 who scores lots of runs and whose primary responsibility is to hold the innings together.

Babar is the only world class player we have produced in a long time now. I don't know which players were supposedly 'eradicated' to give Babar a chance but barring Haris i haven't seen Pak produce any middle order bat half as good as Babar during the last few years. Would be glad if you could enlighten me and name a few. As for people like me destroying the team, I really wish I had that sort of influence.

 

[waleed88]

Hafeez and malik are nothing but bits and pieces players.
What do u expect from a guy?
He batted today at no 3 and scored over strike rate of 100 where ur malik scored at snail' pace .malik threw it away. At 44 from 60 odd balls but still babar faced the crictism

Babar gets too many inconsequential runs and this was not an International match. I am talking about International matches where it does affect his average and SR and how selfishly he plays then. The issue is he can play at a faster strike rate and he chooses to play slowly. Specially when chasing a total.

 

[waleed88]

ct 17 played vital role against SA
pak vs WI 2nd odi match winnig 125*

Was the 123 match winning in a run chase?

Chasing 220 in a rain hit match is negligible specially considering specially when you only managed 120-130 before the Match ended. That total is not steep or difficult enough to be considered a 'challenging' total. Babar disappears in pressure situations and that mostly means run chases.

 

[waleed88]

That is my only criticism for an otherwise fine player as long as the pressure is not on.

 

[Hawkeye]

Some very good points raised, but no one mentioned the main reason - bone. Babar needs to learn how to throw bones to the barking dogs........

It’s ridiculous that in a bang average team the only two quality players get the highest bashing from fans who had the audacity to demand the other guy to be dropped!!! This is because of lack of understanding of the game and the unreal expectations from this pathetic unit, most of whom are playing for own spot.

Guys, when I started understanding this game, I would have put my money that entire PAK team playing with reverse arm (right handed batsman batting left handed, right arm bowlers bowling left armed and vis a vis ...) would have clean swept Afghanistan or Bangladesh national team in a 5 game series ..... though practice game, but yesterday Afghans didn’t win the game, rather they clinically mastered their hapless neighbours.

Instead of bashing the guy scoring a better than run a ball hundred, please have some shame and ask fancy questions to your popular Captain, and to your two useless stooges, one lobbing a full toss and other one skying a long hop, after combined 38 years of experience.

Excellent post.

People bashing Babar have low cricketing IQ, probably the least understanding of the game.

But, rest assured, these are only some armchair critics who are found on anonymous internet forums.

Most likely haven't played any cricket either and are of too joshila types, speak first think later when it comes to cricket.

Ignore these people.

 

[waleed88]

After all vanilla boy was backed for more than 2 years despite failing in test matches for him to be finally be deemed worthy as a no.6 batsman when the ball has gotten older. He certainly doesn't average great as a no.3 batsman in test matches and things can go south very quickly because he does succumb to pressure real quick in tests. It has more to do with those backing him want to succeed at all cost. I have not seen anyone being given the chances this lad has been given. But if the investment has been made now we wish to see more match winning knocks. We haven't seen that either

 

[waleed88]

Really hoping that he finally delivers for us in the big stage. He is Pakistans only hope batting wise if we have any chance of looking good