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Why is Hassan Ali the most hated current Pakistan player?

I have seen a lot of Amir fans hate on him, they stole his credit in 2017 CT (where he was man of the series) and had a lot of this hate PR against him which got circulated on social media and online forums.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
This is what differentiates Hasan Ali from all other Pakistan pacers.

Whenever he gets injured or dropped he works so hard on his fitness, training and domestic Cricket and gets back into National Set Up as improved player.

Saw his spell yesterday and his Zip is back. When he was dropped he was hardly bowling 133 kph and getting tonked left right. He has gained 5-7 kph and is again bowling Fast Medium i.e In excess of 85 mph.

I can sense his International comeback yet again. He would be back in Test format aswell where he has shown ability to bowl consistent line and length ie disciplined bowling and has decent enough Test numbers.
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I hope that is the case because watching him bowl had become embarrassing. At his best, he was a vital cog in our attack especially in the middle overs.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
This is what differentiates Hasan Ali from all other Pakistan pacers.

Whenever he gets injured or dropped he works so hard on his fitness, training and domestic Cricket and gets back into National Set Up as improved player.

Saw his spell yesterday and his Zip is back. When he was dropped he was hardly bowling 133 kph and getting tonked left right. He has gained 5-7 kph and is again bowling Fast Medium i.e In excess of 85 mph.

I can sense his International comeback yet again. He would be back in Test format aswell where he has shown ability to bowl consistent line and length ie disciplined bowling and has decent enough Test numbers.
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come back to test cricket on the basis of PSL? what?
 
Sachin fan said:
I have seen a lot of Amir fans hate on him, they stole his credit in 2017 CT (where he was man of the series) and had a lot of this hate PR against him which got circulated on social media and online forums.
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Yup. It was hassan ali because of whom we won and Fakhar was the guy of the final.

But Amir fans were desperate and wanted the fixing label removed so they gave him credit lol
 
He is trolled because he has some weird personality quirks (celebration antics and Bobzy the King comments).

But to be fair, Hasan is a good hearted and hard working cricketer. I do not think he has brains or malice for politicking.

When in rhythm and fit he was for a period a good all format pacer for Pak and he is still 30 so chances are he can still have 2-3 good years in green if he can put everything together
 
Major said:
Yup. It was hassan ali because of whom we won and Fakhar was the guy of the final.

But Amir fans were desperate and wanted the fixing label removed so they gave him credit lol
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Theirs no I in team bhai. Amir's final spell is the reason why we won. It rattled India into an almost unrecoverable position. Their only hope was Yuvi, an aged Dhoni and Pandya and they all fell.

Hasan Ali is why we reached the final from a bowling perspective but gotta give credit to fakhar, Hafeez, Sarfaraz, Azhar Ali and Amir(Sri Lanka game batting) as well.

The only people you can claim were passengers were malik and babar who didn't really do much in that tournament.
 
mominsaigol said:
Theirs no I in team bhai. Amir's final spell is the reason why we won. It rattled India into an almost unrecoverable position. Their only hope was Yuvi, an aged Dhoni and Pandya and they all fell.

Hasan Ali is why we reached the final from a bowling perspective but gotta give credit to fakhar, Hafeez, Sarfaraz, Azhar Ali and Amir(Sri Lanka game batting) as well.

The only people you can claim were passengers were malik and babar who didn't really do much in that tournament.
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Amirs spell was never the reason we won.

Fakhar had smacked a 100 and Pakistan post 330+ score.

India was under pressure from the first ball as they had to chase this big total.

It was all Fakhar that day.
 
THREAD IS NOT ABOUT AMIR OR FAKHAR...PLEASE DO NOT DERAIL THE THREAD
 
Major said:
Amirs spell was never the reason we won.

Fakhar had smacked a 100 and Pakistan post 330+ score.

India was under pressure from the first ball as they had to chase this big total.

It was all Fakhar that day.
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That is completly incorrect. Prime India under Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Yuvi, Dhoni, Jadeja, Pandya had shown dozens of times that chasing targets of 330 to 370 usually isn't an issue for india.

Infact as time went on India became a better bowling side and a weaker batting side.

Amir taking the wickets of Rohit, Kohli(who freqently owns Pakistan) and dhawan for 39-3 rattled them to the point that Dhoni and Yuvi had to come in early.

Yuvi was no longer the same player that he once was and aged Dhoni isn't good enough to come in so early.

Rohit is a guy who can literally smack you for 200 on a good given day, Virat kohli is the guy who can chase almost any target provided he has one semi competent batter alongside him and dhawan is a proven icc performer.

These 3 wickets were crucial towards victory. Claiming Amir did n9thing is clear bias.

Please leave politics out of it. You're a good poster but you let personal hate cloud your judgement at times.

Each game is unique and it's own thing.
 
mominsaigol said:
Theirs no I in team bhai. Amir's final spell is the reason why we won. It rattled India into an almost unrecoverable position. Their only hope was Yuvi, an aged Dhoni and Pandya and they all fell.

Hasan Ali is why we reached the final from a bowling perspective but gotta give credit to fakhar, Hafeez, Sarfaraz, Azhar Ali and Amir(Sri Lanka game batting) as well.

The only people you can claim were passengers were malik and babar who didn't really do much in that tournament.
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A total of 275+ has never been chased in a CT or World Cup final in the history of cricket. A total of 250+ has been chased once.

Once you set a target of 330, game was over, even zimbabwe or Ireland bowlers would have defended that target in a big final against any team including Australia batting.

Fakhar won you that final, as simple as that.
 
Sachin fan said:
A total of 275+ has never been chased in a CT or World Cup final in the history of cricket. A total of 250+ has been chased once.

Once you set a target of 330, game was over, even zimbabwe or Ireland bowlers would have defended that target in a big final against any team including Australia batting.

Fakhar won you that final, as simple as that.
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That is such a superstitious way of looking at things.

Australia has never defeated India with Pandya in it. Similarly India has never beat Australia in a world cup final.

Does that mean that Pandya is destiny? And Losing in a final to Australia is India's destiny?

Similarly NZ hasn't been able to win an icc event excluding WTC despite reaching a final 4x in 10 years. They lost to Aus in 2015 and 2021, lost to Eng in 2019, Lost to India in 2025.

Does that mean it's destiny that NZ is never suppose to win and their is some magic genie that puts these notions into motion?

So you're saying Amir taking apart India's top order and putting them at 39-3 had no bearings in an icc event? That it was just destiny that any tom dick and Harry bowler bowler would have put India into the exact same position?

Every tournament is different, every game is different, and every scenario is different and both you and @Major Are throwing logic out of the window, scrambling around to find some sort of argument to divert things because you don't wish to admit that Fakhar, Amir, and Hafeez won that game for Pakistan alongside a solid opening contribution from Azhar Ali + some luck with Pandya getting run out and bumrah getting rid of fakhar only to discover that he bowled a No ball.
 
mominsaigol said:
That is such a superstitious way of looking at things.

Australia has never defeated India with Pandya in it. Similarly India has never beat Australia in a world cup final.

Does that mean that Pandya is destiny? And Losing in a final to Australia is India's destiny?

Similarly NZ hasn't been able to win an icc event excluding WTC despite reaching a final 4x in 10 years. They lost to Aus in 2015 and 2021, lost to Eng in 2019, Lost to India in 2025.

Does that mean it's destiny that NZ is never suppose to win and their is some magic genie that puts these notions into motion?

So you're saying Amir taking apart India's top order and putting them at 39-3 had no bearings in an icc event? That it was just destiny that any tom dick and Harry bowler bowler would have put India into the exact same position?

Every tournament is different, every game is different, and every scenario is different and both you and @Major Are throwing logic out of the window, scrambling around to find some sort of argument to divert things because you don't wish to admit that Fakhar, Amir, and Hafeez won that game for Pakistan alongside a solid opening contribution from Azhar Ali + some luck with Pandya getting run out and bumrah getting rid of fakhar only to discover that he bowled a No ball.
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mominsaigol said:
Theirs no I in team bhai. Amir's final spell is the reason why we won. It rattled India into an almost unrecoverable position. Their only hope was Yuvi, an aged Dhoni and Pandya and they all fell.

Hasan Ali is why we reached the final from a bowling perspective but gotta give credit to fakhar, Hafeez, Sarfaraz, Azhar Ali and Amir(Sri Lanka game batting) as well.

The only people you can claim were passengers were malik and babar who didn't really do much in that tournament.
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Still an outstanding win. They really showed up that day.
 
It's inevitable that Hassan will be recalled for T20 series against Bangladesh after the PSL. Does he deserve it? Probably not but our seam attack for T20I's has been poor for 2 years now so I guess he has got another chance.
 
He needs a good tournament. He's started well, but needs to continue on.

I believe he is still playing for Warwickshire but again needs a good season.
 
mominsaigol said:
That is such a superstitious way of looking at things.

Australia has never defeated India with Pandya in it. Similarly India has never beat Australia in a world cup final.

Does that mean that Pandya is destiny? And Losing in a final to Australia is India's destiny?

Similarly NZ hasn't been able to win an icc event excluding WTC despite reaching a final 4x in 10 years. They lost to Aus in 2015 and 2021, lost to Eng in 2019, Lost to India in 2025.

Does that mean it's destiny that NZ is never suppose to win and their is some magic genie that puts these notions into motion?

So you're saying Amir taking apart India's top order and putting them at 39-3 had no bearings in an icc event? That it was just destiny that any tom dick and Harry bowler bowler would have put India into the exact same position?

Every tournament is different, every game is different, and every scenario is different and both you and @Major Are throwing logic out of the window, scrambling around to find some sort of argument to divert things because you don't wish to admit that Fakhar, Amir, and Hafeez won that game for Pakistan alongside a solid opening contribution from Azhar Ali + some luck with Pandya getting run out and bumrah getting rid of fakhar only to discover that he bowled a No ball.
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Lol, how is the entire history of cricket superstition? That pandya example is, I am sorry to say, really really dumb.

All the numbers show is that it's impossible to chase a huge score under pressure of a big final and no team in the history of cricket have done it, including the great Australia or west indies team.

And yes Amirs bowling had next to no bearing on the result in that final, match was won when you set a target of 330. You didn't need to be in the same position to win, if india had been 50 for 2 instead of 39 for 3, they would have still lost.

You don't get an extra cup for winning by more runs, whether india had lost by 8 runs instead of 180, you would have got the same cup. And it's impossible to chase 300+ score in a big final.
 
Hassan is a Good character one of very few remaining in PK cricket.

Like most things in PK cricket captains , Management and coaches don't use players effectively which has always been a thorn to our side.

So far in PSL he s looked in good rhythm and bowled at good pace.

His PK career will be determined by the impending coaching changes that will be expected as well the conditions we will play in.
 
Started off as a very decent ODI bowler but alas the two new ball rule sort of ruined it for him.
 
If Hassan keeps his rhythm going, I think he will get a national recall after the PSL. Very good bowler when on-song and bowling wicket-to-wicket.
 
Major said:
come back to test cricket on the basis of PSL? what?
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Come On.

International Cricket is No Joke.

If a player who has performed well in International Cricket in any format experiences dip in his performance due to for instance :

1. Pace
2. Fitness
3. Swing/Seam


Than he is asked to work on these areas and regain his place back by improving these things.


When the Selectors, Coaches, Captain, Manager see the player regain his lost fort like they see that the seam, swing is back, run up rhythm is back, pace is back, zip is back than off course the player will get back into international cricket.


Off course when the Test Series comes his fitness stamena will be gauged and he will be picked for Pakistan Shaheen/ Pakistan A in warm up match or if there is County Cricket or FC season where he plays (he will play given his positive daring attitude) than he will prove his form and fitness. If he bowls like this he will off course top the charts as like he did before post injury.


Current observation is based on what my eyes are seeing. The same Hassan Ali in last few leagues he played was bowling poor line and length gun barrel straight at 128-133 kph and was getting hammered left right and length. It is opposite at present and there seems alot of hard work behind it. This is his special asset. He doesn't give up.

Last time when I saw him play for Pakistan it was embarrassing and I thought his International Cricket Career is Over but he has turned the tables.
 
Sachin fan said:
Lol, how is the entire history of cricket superstition? That pandya example is, I am sorry to say, really really dumb.

All the numbers show is that it's impossible to chase a huge score under pressure of a big final and no team in the history of cricket have done it, including the great Australia or west indies team.

And yes Amirs bowling had next to no bearing on the result in that final, match was won when you set a target of 330. You didn't need to be in the same position to win, if india had been 50 for 2 instead of 39 for 3, they would have still lost.

You don't get an extra cup for winning by more runs, whether india had lost by 8 runs instead of 180, you would have got the same cup. And it's impossible to chase 300+ score in a big final.
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Let's phrase it another way.

You're saying Amir taking 3 wickets of rohit, Kohli, And dhawan in quick siccession had zero bearings on the game?


 
he is a character and that's okay. Only if we had a leader like imran khan who knew how to manage and utilize characters
 
Hassan Ali has imprved alot as a bowler... i think he is going to be a leading wicket taker in this PSL.
 
Don’t care about his bowling, it’s his fielding that costs us games, and sometimes a WT20 trophy.

Plus, his “king karlega” crap is not what we need in the dressing room.
 
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