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Why is Mohammad Wasim Jr treated as the backup option even after performing better than the rest?

mominsaigol said:
Bro I appreciate you, but your arguments will fall on deaf ears against him.

The reason why major wants waseem jnr as frontline isn't because of the arguments he's made, it's because of this
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His spell v South Africa in the WC did also make me change my opinion on him.
 
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The guy is brainless.

May work in ODI's, but definitely not in T20's.

That's why he is awful in T20's and got hammered in the PSL.

Also, the last time he played in the Windies he was going at 10 runs per over.

His so called speciality of being good with "reverse swing and death overs" is debunked because those conditions in the Windies are great for reverse swing.
 
He's a rubbish bowler but clearly better than garbage zaman Khan. Hopefully this is the last we see of zaman as we clearly have better options then him.
 
Poor guy is always just a second thought even though he has all of the ingredients to be good.

He also has great numbers and performances in T20 and ODI. We need more competition for death bowling anyway, almost all of our selected bowlers are mostly new ball bowlers like Shaheen, Naseem, Imad, Amir.
 
emranabbas said:
shaheen shah and harris rauf both have a better average in the death overs this is t20 international cricket data

and shaheen is known for been a poor death bowler that say it all about waseem jnr
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Shaheen before his injury and after his injury are very different.

He lost his effect after his injury and is on the way to become like hassan ali
 
I'd definetly have him over zaman khan

But I guess with abbas afridi and m ali coming into the picture, wasim jnr place was always under threat
 
He gets a very raw deal by the selectors . Has very credible numbers in both t20s and one dayers for Pakistan, and has performed on the big stage .

Took 10 wickets in 4 games in the odi World Cup , when he came at the back end of the tournament, and was our best bowler.

Performed ably in the t20 World Cup and only played 3 times since in t20s.

People keep harping on about PSL, but there is a big difference between that and performing for the national team which he has done .

He is only 22, and generally a good fielder to.
Most definitely should be in the squad .
 
It makes no sense. He's not a world-class bowler who strikes fear in the hearts of batsmen but he has been steadily improving and has elements of a great bowler in him. He has pace, he has the ability to bowl very good yorkers and can hit those hard lengths. I think statistically he was our best bowler at the World Cup. Where everyone got carted all over the place. He should be ahead of the line of both Abbas Afridi and Zaman Khan.
 
i think his attitude is too casual, he does not seem to take his game seriously. Just comes in and bowls randomly. At least that's the impression i get.
 
I would love to know what it is about Wasim that Ian Bishop finds so promising.

He is meant to be a bowling AR yet, he hasn't shown any potential with the bat & bowling isn't anything to write home about.
 
iRfaN_LA said:
i think his attitude is too casual, he does not seem to take his game seriously. Just comes in and bowls randomly. At least that's the impression i get.
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He's the only cricketer who smiles more than Yasir Shah, that should tell you something.
 
TeymurBlake said:
I would love to know what it is about Wasim that Ian Bishop finds so promising.

He is meant to be a bowling AR yet, he hasn't shown any potential with the bat & bowling isn't anything to write home about.
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Wasim has been around and has bowled well. 2023 world cup? remember? he was probably our best bowler in that tournament. Only problem was his batting that never looked improved but he should have been there.
 
If it wasn't for him, Pakistan's 2023 WC would have looked even more disastrous. He has what it takes and should be backed. His pace is severely undermined. He's naturally fast and is also not a spray gun. His 145 kph reverse swing yorkers need to be backed and trained
 
BouncerGuy said:
Wasim has been around and has bowled well. 2023 world cup? remember? he was probably our best bowler in that tournament. Only problem was his batting that never looked improved but he should have been there.
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He wasn't meant to play if the Pakistan pacers weren't having terrible tournaments & numerous injuries to the fast bowlers. He also was taken as a AR, which is the problem.

PCB, should allow him to focus on some domestic cricket to fine tune his abilities because right now, he is very much a one trick pony.
 
iRfaN_LA said:
i think his attitude is too casual, he does not seem to take his game seriously. Just comes in and bowls randomly. At least that's the impression i get.
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Fair impression but I think he's a very shy and reserved person who doesn't show a lot of emotions. However, you could tell he bowls his heart out when he needs to. That South Africa game in the World Cup is an example. You can even tell from his fielding that the game really means to him. The quick running and rocket throws are a delight to watch. It's hard to tell with an introverted guy like him, but dude puts in the effort
 
hafizexpress said:
Fair impression but I think he's a very shy and reserved person who doesn't show a lot of emotions. However, you could tell he bowls his heart out when he needs to. That South Africa game in the World Cup is an example. You can even tell from his fielding that the game really means to him. The quick running and rocket throws are a delight to watch. It's hard to tell with an introverted guy like him, but dude puts in the effort
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Still can't believe they chose Hasan Ali against Wasim Jr. It was a no brainer for me as to who is better. Hasan Ali going for 14 an over against Ireland.....
 
Let’s be real, if Hassan Ali wasn’t Punjabi he would’ve disappeared like Musa Khan. As a Punjabi myself, it’s clear that certain ethnicities are treated better than others.
 
He's done enough to stay in squad but nothing to really nail down a place in first XI.

His skillset as bowler is limited but he is accurate and rarely gets pumped for big overs.

Surprised that he has taken 70+ intl wkts for Pak. Honestly nothing memorable about his career other than maybe the SA game in WC
 
This thread was created because misbah in a podcast asked for Wasim Jnr being selected in the squad.

Yeah no thanks, misbah should keep his mouth close.

What we need is people like mohammad Ali and domestic level bowlers. Not these dosti yari says hacks like hasan Ali, Rauf etc.
 
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If Hasan is the option, I would happily pick Wasim jr over him any day. He has got pace and that slingy action can come in handy to bowl Yorkers TBH, Wasim did pretty well on the World Cup stage. It was a no-brainer to ignore him for Hasan Ali who was nowhere in the discussion.
 
To me both are equally disappointing.

It's better to bring in a genuine all rounder who can win games with both bat and ball.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Let’s be real, if Hassan Ali wasn’t Punjabi he would’ve disappeared like Musa Khan. As a Punjabi myself, it’s clear that certain ethnicities are treated better than others.
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Nah man.

Hassan has a solid bank of credit. He's maxed it out and past it now but he's been solid for us many many times. Amir gets a lot of credit for the champions trophy but Hassan was solid throughout too.

No comparison between him and Musa at all.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Nah man.

Hassan has a solid bank of credit. He's maxed it out and past it now but he's been solid for us many many times. Amir gets a lot of credit for the champions trophy but Hassan was solid throughout too.

No comparison between him and Musa at all.
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Apart from Champions trophy, hasan has nothing to show really. It was a blunder to include him in the squad at the first place. PCB made the right move to release him from the squad.

Not sure who is going to replace him now. Maybe Ali? Wasim? who?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Nah man.

Hassan has a solid bank of credit. He's maxed it out and past it now but he's been solid for us many many times. Amir gets a lot of credit for the champions trophy but Hassan was solid throughout too.

No comparison between him and Musa at all.
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He gets back into the team based on “experience” and for his performance in CT17.

His white ball career should’ve finished along time ago, there’s no way his name should’ve been ahead of Mohammad Wasim who has more pace, better line and length and has the ability to bowl with the new and old ball.

I’m not really a fan of Wasim Jnr but he’s miles ahead of Hassan Ali, if Wasim jnr had a darker complexion and spoke like a pendu he’d have been in our XI.
 
Injury Update:

Mohammad Wasim Jnr, the right-arm fast bowler who sustained a back injury during a domestic tournament, has been undergoing rehabilitation at the NCA. Following Eid Al Adha holidays, he will return to resume his rehabilitation at the NCA
 
Mohammad Wasim jr missing the ongoing Champions One-Day Cup tournament owing to his injury. Would he had been a top gun in the ongoing tournament, if not injured ?
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Mohammad Wasim jr missing the ongoing Champions One-Day Cup tournament owing to his injury. Would he had been a top gun in the ongoing tournament, if not injured ?
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Yes batters would have enjoyed batting if he had been playing in this tournament... The average first innings score would have easily surpassed 400 lolzzz
 
He is not selected for Aus & Zim tour, a bowler who can actually do both types of swing, that's the problem with Pakistan cricket
 
Should play domestic and be back in contention for champions trophy I feel. Can also bat a bit unlike fake all rounder Shaheen and Haris/Hasnain who can't bat.
 
Kianig89 said:
He is not selected for Aus & Zim tour, a bowler who can actually do both types of swing, that's the problem with Pakistan cricket
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He's been injured lately. It's OK to ease him in. I believe he is due to playing upcoming FC & ODI matches in A team vs SL A team. Let him ramp up domestically and I am sure we will see him back for the SA tour.
 
He won me in the WC last year in India. He's somebody who actually plays with his heart out unlike the other lazy baboons on the team. Hoping we see him in the CT next year
 
He is a useful bowler to have in ODIs, especially with the old ball. He can be effective with the reverse swing.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Dahani is a very poor bowler. Wasim JR is better than him at least
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Dahani is poor but he should have been groomed in a better way. Since last 5-6 years team management has invested only in 3 fast bowlers Shaheen, Naseem & Haris. Shaheen is still getting a free ride on his one match glory against India and Naseem has won couple of matches against Afghanistan, that's there only contribution. Haris joined late but he still doesn't have single achievement to show. Pacers like Mir Hamza, Aamir Jamal & Khurram Shahzad clearly outperformed Shaheen in previous test series against Australia. Wasim Jnr has always been neglected, even in 2023 WC he got opportunity in last 2-3 games when the team was already out of the tournament.

Why in last 7-8 years no proper fast bowler came out from domestic circuit?
 
zaidihusain said:
Dahani is poor but he should have been groomed in a better way. Since last 5-6 years team management has invested only in 3 fast bowlers Shaheen, Naseem & Haris. Shaheen is still getting a free ride on his one match glory against India and Naseem has won couple of matches against Afghanistan, that's there only contribution. Haris joined late but he still doesn't have single achievement to show. Pacers like Mir Hamza, Aamir Jamal & Khurram Shahzad clearly outperformed Shaheen in previous test series against Australia. Wasim Jnr has always been neglected, even in 2023 WC he got opportunity in last 2-3 games when the team was already out of the tournament.

Why in last 7-8 years no proper fast bowler came out from domestic circuit?
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I agree with you here. We did a very poor job rotating the squads and allowing younger players to build experience
 
Mohammed Wasim jr did not do well in his first game playing for Chittagong Kings in BPL 2025, against Khulna tigers.

Bowled 4 overs and leaked 39 runs no wickets...
 
Very wayward. Needs some first class experience before he becomes a serious prospect
 
He’s never been a T 20 bowler should focus on red ball as he has potential especially with the reverse
 
Xoib said:
He’s never been a T 20 bowler should focus on red ball as he has potential especially with the reverse
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For red ball the first potential he must full fill is hitting the right line and length. Everything else is secondary’s
 
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