Why is Pakistani community in North America relatively so much smaller than other Asian communities?

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan with 220 million is probably the 5th or 6th largest country yet has a much smaller diaspora in north America than other Asian nations unlike in the UK where we %age wise we have a more impactful population.

Just compare the numbers of various Asian countries and there communities in North America

There are only 700,000 Pakistanis in America and 200,000 in Canada yet there South Korea with only 50 million has 2.5 million people in America, Vietnam with 95 million has 2 million in America, Japan with only 120 million people has a community of over 1.2 million and the Phillipines with only 100 million people have a community of over 4 million - I've not included their communities in Canada but they outnumber Pakistanis over there as well.

Why do you think we have such a "small community" compared to other nations that are smaller in population size than us? Is it cause historically Pakistanis always preferred the UK/Europe and the Gulf Arab nations to migrate to? I always thought there would be more Pakistanis in Canada than in America but they're barely 1/3rd of our population over here.

Also interestingly Sikhs are a very small community in India yet in North America there are over 1 million Sikhs, they outnumber all Pakistanis despite there being 220 million of us and only 20 million Sikhs in India lol. There's just such a big discrepancy.

 

[Pakistanian]

Sources: US census, Pew center report.

 

[Pakistanian]

Fortunately Pakistanis are one of the biggest contributors of new immigrants to both the US and Canada so maybe this will change but we're far behind the other Asians for at least another couple decades.

 

[ahsan17]

A lot of those countries have had immigration to the US pre-world war 2, and especially around world war 2. That's why their numbers are much higher. Pakistanis really only started immigrating to US/Canada in the 70s, and it wasn't until the 90s that the numbers grew a lot higher.

It could also be because immigrating to US/Canada costs a lot of money, and the other countries you mention are richer than Pakistan. Another possibility is that (in the case of US) the immigration system is geared towards family-based immigration, and when there are fewer Pakistanis to begin with (since they started immigrating later), it stands to reason that their growth is slow as well.

 

[Pakistanian]

A lot of those countries have had immigration to the US pre-world war 2, and especially around world war 2. That's why their numbers are much higher. Pakistanis really only started immigrating to US/Canada in the 70s, and it wasn't until the 90s that the numbers grew a lot higher.

It could also be because immigrating to US/Canada costs a lot of money, and the other countries you mention are richer than Pakistan. Another possibility is that (in the case of US) the immigration system is geared towards family-based immigration, and when there are fewer Pakistanis to begin with (since they started immigrating later), it stands to reason that their growth is slow as well.

That makes sense but a lot of those countries were very poor when large numbers of immigrants started arriving from those countries.

 

[ahsan17]

I suspect immigration back in the day was much cheaper than it is now. Now you need to bring a significant amount of money (at least if you are coming to Canada), and buy tickets that can run into the thousands for each person. Not to mention the accommodation that you will need soon after, which is important because you will likely not have a job so soon after entering the country.

 

[slipcatch]

How old is that data?

I feel like I have met more than 200,000 Pakistani in one day by just driving East bound on 401.

 

[rockyboy2018]

In the 80s getting visas for the USA was easy however there was not a significant trend of immigrating there because people used to have stable jobs in Pakistan- doing donkey work in a foreign land would scare them away so they stuck to their stable stream of income. My uncle went there on a visit visa and stayed there but my father did not as he was an audit officer. Later on, after 9/11 getting any sort of visa is not that easy for an average Pakistani. Now all western countries are tighning their screws on Pakistan because they create trouble wherever they go

 

[angrypathan]

There's probably 200,000 Pakistanis in Mississauga alone

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Pakistan with 220 million is probably the 5th or 6th largest country yet has a much smaller diaspora in north America than other Asian nations unlike in the UK where we %age wise we have a more impactful population.

Just compare the numbers of various Asian countries and there communities in North America

There are only 700,000 Pakistanis in America and 200,000 in Canada yet there South Korea with only 50 million has 2.5 million people in America, Vietnam with 95 million has 2 million in America, Japan with only 120 million people has a community of over 1.2 million and the Phillipines with only 100 million people have a community of over 4 million - I've not included their communities in Canada but they outnumber Pakistanis over there as well.

Why do you think we have such a "small community" compared to other nations that are smaller in population size than us? Is it cause historically Pakistanis always preferred the UK/Europe and the Gulf Arab nations to migrate to? I always thought there would be more Pakistanis in Canada than in America but they're barely 1/3rd of our population over here.

Also interestingly Sikhs are a very small community in India yet in North America there are over 1 million Sikhs, they outnumber all Pakistanis despite there being 220 million of us and only 20 million Sikhs in India lol. There's just such a big discrepancy.

Not sure but korea and japan are countries teh U.S started wars with , Same with Vietnamese .Maybe they let more in as refugees.

 

[JaDed]

Not sure but korea and japan are countries teh U.S started wars with , Same with Vietnamese .Maybe they let more in as refugees.

Pretty much this...

 

[JaDed]

Sikhs are found all around the world even in the dairy industry of Italy.. their % has reduced in Punjab by a 1%..

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Quality over quantity?

 

[JaDed]

Quality over quantity?

Canada?Nope

 

[Captain caveman]

Most pakistani heritage people overseas are actually not pakistanis but kasmiris(mepuris mostly).
They left pakistan in the fifties and sixties, only a few years after pakistan was created and headed to the uk, due to a dam being built on their land by a british company on behalf of the pak gov, and were given access to settle in the uk.
The other pakistani's didn't mass emigrate til the 70s/80s where western countries brought in stricter border controls.
Poorer pakistani's couldn't afford to go to western countries or didn't have the qualififations to meet these stricter controls and ended up in saudi arabia and the gulf, working as labourers!

Also, there is this obsession with pakistani's wanting to come to the uk, and america and canada are only relatively recent desired destinations, along with australia.
America and canada are also much further alway from pakistan, which puts alot of pakistanis off, as you can get back to pak in 7 hours from uk, but america and canada can take 24hours or more.
All of this contributed to higher pakistani(mepuri) population in uk and low pakistani populations further west!

 

[Zhasan]

All four countries (S. Korea, Japan and Vietnam, and China) mentioned above were either at one point occupied by US, were US colonies or are still occupied by US...

An inverse scenario exists in UK, and Pakistan being a colony of UK explains the sizable Pakistani population there...

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Canada?Nope

Compared to Europe, yes.

 

[JaDed]

Compared to Europe, yes.

Lol probably but America and Aus imo take in the best immigrants.

 

[ahsan17]

Lol probably but America and Aus imo take in the best immigrants.

US immigration is about 2/3 family based and 1/3 employment based. OTOH, Canadian immigration is almost entirely skills based. Based on that, I'd argue Canada takes in the best immigrants. The problem with Canada is that employers will have these unwritten requirements for applications to have Canadian education and/or Canadian experience before they hire them. This is especially a problem for people in their 30s, 40s and 50s who don't have any of that. Those immigrants have to struggle hard, although their kids usually make it. US OTOH doesn't have such idiotic rules, and immigrants are generally able to find high paying jobs much more easily.

 

[JaDed]

US immigration is about 2/3 family based and 1/3 employment based. OTOH, Canadian immigration is almost entirely skills based. Based on that, I'd argue Canada takes in the best immigrants. The problem with Canada is that employers will have these unwritten requirements for applications to have Canadian education and/or Canadian experience before they hire them. This is especially a problem for people in their 30s, 40s and 50s who don't have any of that. Those immigrants have to struggle hard, although their kids usually make it. US OTOH doesn't have such idiotic rules, and immigrants are generally able to find high paying jobs much more easily.

Nice different perspective and i do agree that is true I have seen job requirements in USA AND Canada and have found Canadian corporations to be pretty discriminating not all but some.

My issue is with blue collar visa jobs that are exploited by Desis that makes Canada really below USA as well esp Punjabis.

Also just to do some course and getting PR through some loop hole causes a lot of burden on tax payers because these are not highly skilled immigrants imho which Aus and USA geg but again my perspective is from Desi pov not overall.

 

[ahsan17]

Nice different perspective and i do agree that is true I have seen job requirements in USA AND Canada and have found Canadian corporations to be pretty discriminating not all but some.

My issue is with blue collar visa jobs that are exploited by Desis that makes Canada really below USA as well esp Punjabis.

Also just to do some course and getting PR through some loop hole causes a lot of burden on tax payers because these are not highly skilled immigrants imho which Aus and USA geg but again my perspective is from Desi pov not overall.

From what I am hearing, the bar is much higher now for Canadian immigration, simply because of the number of people applying. The annual limit of immigrants accepted is still in the range of 300-400k per year, but now people that have masters degree but are in their mid 30s are having a hard time because their points drop due to their age. It might have been easier in the past, agreed.

I did notice that a lot of kids with Pakistani background going to university in Canada take majors that do not have good career opportunities, but in the US they almost always take majors that have good opportunities.

 

[JaDed]

From what I am hearing, the bar is much higher now for Canadian immigration, simply because of the number of people applying. The annual limit of immigrants accepted is still in the range of 300-400k per year, but now people that have masters degree but are in their mid 30s are having a hard time because their points drop due to their age. It might have been easier in the past, agreed.

I did notice that a lot of kids with Pakistani background going to university in Canada take majors that do not have good career opportunities, but in the US they almost always take majors that have good opportunities.

I would say on the contrary , so express entry points have actually dropped since 2017 it actually went as low as 434 which was way low compared to Harper era of 480s.. this is the reason why many got it, age factor was always there but points threshold has fallen, its going up now as you said coz number of applicants but it was specifically lowered for 2 years where there was 1% immigration for 2017,2018 and i think they are targeting 3% this year.

 

[sjahmed23]

It could also be because not many Pakistanis come to the US for higher education. I would say the ratio of Indians to Pakistanis in American universities is probably like 200:1. I don't get how middle class Indians can afford to send their kids to American colleges but Pakistanis can't?

 

[JaDed]

It could also be because not many Pakistanis come to the US for higher education. I would say the ratio of Indians to Pakistanis in American universities is probably like 200:1. I don't get how middle class Indians can afford to send their kids to American colleges but Pakistanis can't?

Loan.. most take loan for MS, coz everyone can work and return it.
Many get rejected as well coz finance of their parents.

 

[sjahmed23]

Loan.. most take loan for MS, coz everyone can work and return it.
Many get rejected as well coz finance of their parents.

Yes I agree but I guess Pakistanis also have that option too?

 

[JaDed]

Yes I agree but I guess Pakistanis also have that option too?

Our middle class is bigger with banking sector becoming similar to usa kind.. with student loan thing , luckily Masters is cheaper than Bachelors so easy to repay...
Also way churn out way too many engineers.... coz its seen to be a stable job .. only speaking quantity here..

 

[WC-Passion]

Probably because the UK is more appealing to modern Pakistanis due to it already having the largest Pakistani population in the West. Not to mention there's nothing like a muslim ban (even if it is for certain countries) or Trump here.

 

[sjahmed23]

Probably because the UK is more appealing to modern Pakistanis due to it already having the largest Pakistani population in the West. Not to mention there's nothing like a muslim ban (even if it is for certain countries) or Trump here.

How can UK be more appealing when its economy is in shambles and people already living in the UK are having difficulties finding better jobs? I have family members in UK who work 2-3 jobs and some are even considering moving back to Pakistan because its simply too expensive to live in the UK and job prospects are not good with increased uncertainity after brexit.

 

[JaDed]

Probably because the UK is more appealing to modern Pakistanis due to it already having the largest Pakistani population in the West. Not to mention there's nothing like a muslim ban (even if it is for certain countries) or Trump here.

And move how? What visas do they even give?

 

[WC-Passion]

And move how? What visas do they even give?

What's your point here? Are you trying to suggest moving to the US is easier on any level, visa wise?

How can UK be more appealing when its economy is in shambles and people already living in the UK are having difficulties finding better jobs? I have family members in UK who work 2-3 jobs and some are even considering moving back to Pakistan because its simply too expensive to live in the UK and job prospects are not good with increased uncertainity after brexit.

It depends on where you live in the UK. The midlands is not exactly expensive and Liverpool is struggling to even sell houses. The economy being in "shambles" is an exaggeration, it's a statement anyone can make! Also going by your logic with money being an issue then living in the US would be a living hell because good luck not being three feet deep in debt if god forbid you have to go to hospital at any point. I admit uncertainty over brexit doesn't help but I'd still much rather be in the UK. There's something wrong though with where your family is working if they have three jobs and can't afford to live here... That's extremely odd.

 

[sshakir411]

Tougher immigration laws compared to say Canada. My family’s immigration thing took over 12 years.

 

[ahsan17]

Tougher immigration laws compared to say Canada. My family’s immigration thing took over 12 years.

That's because of a different immigration system, not tougher immigration laws. US allows its citizens to bring over their siblings and the sibling's entire family The backlog for such immigration is incredibly long, hence why it takes 10+ years. In Canada, you can't even sponsor your siblings. At best, when your siblings apply for Canadian immigration, having you living in Canada increases their points.

 

[moghul]

In 80s and 90s lots of people migrated from Pakistan but after 911, it became very difficult for Pakistanis to get immigration or even to get visa to US.

in 90s Pakistani doctors were only 2nd to India in number of foreign medical graduates in residency or practice in USA, now there are 10 countries ahead of us, thanks to difficulties faced by Pakistani physicians to get visa.

Even directors of many FMG friendly programs are hesitant to offer a position to Pakistani doctors fearing they will not be able to re-enter USA after going back to Pakistan to stamp visa. This a huge problem.

In good old days, Pakistanis in USA were predominantly physicians or other educated people and Pakistanis carried a very good reputations , not anymore.

 

[USaqaf]

It could also be because not many Pakistanis come to the US for higher education. I would say the ratio of Indians to Pakistanis in American universities is probably like 200:1. I don't get how middle class Indians can afford to send their kids to American colleges but Pakistanis can't?

Lots Indian students get financial aid or take loans from friends family or even the government.

 

[USaqaf]

One reason that not many Pakistani or Bangladeshis come to the US is because many need to earn immediately , hence pushing studying to the back burner. Many Bangladeshis and Pakistanis tend to look for jobs that pay immediately and in cash.
Indians tend to play long ball and go years without income and finally when they do earn they earn substantially more.

 

[Pete Rose]

Once America invades Pakistan, the Paksitani community numbers will go up in line with the other countries you mentioned.

 

[Knight_Rider]

What's your point here? Are you trying to suggest moving to the US is easier on any level, visa wise?



It depends on where you live in the UK. The midlands is not exactly expensive and Liverpool is struggling to even sell houses. The economy being in "shambles" is an exaggeration, it's a statement anyone can make! Also going by your logic with money being an issue then living in the US would be a living hell because good luck not being three feet deep in debt if god forbid you have to go to hospital at any point. I admit uncertainty over brexit doesn't help but I'd still much rather be in the UK. There's something wrong though with where your family is working if they have three jobs and can't afford to live here... That's extremely odd.

As per the recent BBC prog (think its called ‘who should be allowed to migrate to the UK’), a very high % of UK population earns less than 18000 £/year. This isnt too good, as everything here is very expensive (compared to many other western countries). Also with the Brexit mess the inflation had gone over the roof and simple daily use things are quite a bit more expensive. Not to mention the decline in industry, slow and gradual death of high street etc etc I was surprised that how much a basic day out with kids cost now a days.

Overall UK is a gloomy place now a days.

Some things may be a bit cheaper up north but without any real good paying jobs, its a mute point.

 

[WC-Passion]

As per the recent BBC prog (think its called ‘who should be allowed to migrate to the UK’), a very high % of UK population earns less than 18000 £/year. This isnt too good, as everything here is very expensive (compared to many other western countries). Also with the Brexit mess the inflation had gone over the roof and simple daily use things are quite a bit more expensive. Not to mention the decline in industry, slow and gradual death of high street etc etc I was surprised that how much a basic day out with kids cost now a days.

Overall UK is a gloomy place now a days.

Some things may be a bit cheaper up north but without any real good paying jobs, its a mute point.

Despite what you say though, the average salary is closer to around £30,000-40,000 a year which is fairly decent and doesn't show the UK as economically poor. I have been to Norway and many other Western countries and generally the prices of the items the average person would buy are higher there then they were in the UK. Clothing was a good example of this. Obviously, this was from my experience which may differ from yours. Not even just the North has it cheaper than the stereotypical "horror" prices you hear from foreigners, the Midlands is fairly cheap and I have lived here my whole life. Most people who can control their finances responsibly don't have an issue at all with the cost of living here.

 

[Knight_Rider]

As per this gov website, the avg UK ‘Household income’ is 28400£
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ddisposableincomeandinequality/yearending2018

Now in most UK households both partners work, which makes 1 person’s earning 50% of that i.e 14200£

And tbh i am not surprised by that because qualified professionals like Teachers and nurses are on meagre salaries. So one can imagine what would the case with those working in service industry (which is the only main industry left in the uk).

As for comparison, Norway isnt a good benchmark because its known to be a high cost of living country and one with natural resources and much much smaller population than the UK. More like for like comparisons would be with Germany and France, both of which have a lower cost of living. I know this coz i have actually lived in those countries.

Torries in times of Tatcher sold all the national assets to the private sector, as a result public is left at the mercy of private corporations and no strict regulation. From M25 suburban towns travelling to London by train costs much more than in Berlin, Paris or Frankfurt.

Check the price of basic attractions like London zoo, Warwick Castle, Alton towers etc. Nothing looks affordable for a person earning the average salary. As for midlands, i am sorry to say that it doesnt look very promising either after the demise of Factories. Unemployment amongst Asians is a big problem over there. Living in your means is only workable, as long as the State keeps on providing social support but gradually that too will ve to come down.

Everything from Mod, NHS, policing and council budgets are being slashed year by year. I don’t really see the tude turning and hence seriously considering leaving the UK myself.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

There is nothing proud about having a large diaspora - when will Pakistanis ever learn that?

Talk to Chinese, Koreans or any other Asian nationality, and they all collectively feel a sense of national shame that a large population of their OWN people had to leave their own homeland to earn a living in other countries.

Meanwhile in Pakistan and India, it's considered a sense of accomplishment. Just proves how both countries are still colonies of Britain. You continue to worship the west and view it as superior.

Sad.

 

[Knight_Rider]

In a sense thats correct. Once an Italian told me the same thing.

On the other hand a large diaspora is beneficial for the home country, as it increases foreign influences and opportunities. Look at British for example.

 

[USofA]

Despite what you say though, the average salary is closer to around £30,000-40,000 a year which is fairly decent and doesn't show the UK as economically poor. I have been to Norway and many other Western countries and generally the prices of the items the average person would buy are higher there then they were in the UK. Clothing was a good example of this. Obviously, this was from my experience which may differ from yours. Not even just the North has it cheaper than the stereotypical "horror" prices you hear from foreigners, the Midlands is fairly cheap and I have lived here my whole life. Most people who can control their finances responsibly don't have an issue at all with the cost of living here.

How much of this do people actually get to keep? How much does the govt. take away in taxes?

 

[HussainRx8]

Where did you come up with 200:1? Seems very skewed.

In any case, India has a much larger population. They probably have more access to financing, as JaDeD said. Their per capita income is higher which makes it more affordable. And their local institutions probably carry more prestige than Pakistani counterparts.

 

[HussainRx8]

What world are you living in? It is natural to migrate in a globalized world.

 

[Pakistanian]

There is nothing proud about having a large diaspora - when will Pakistanis ever learn that?

Talk to Chinese, Koreans or any other Asian nationality, and they all collectively feel a sense of national shame that a large population of their OWN people had to leave their own homeland to earn a living in other countries.

Meanwhile in Pakistan and India, it's considered a sense of accomplishment. Just proves how both countries are still colonies of Britain. You continue to worship the west and view it as superior.

Sad.

Dude stop making stuff up lol. The Chinese are moving in hordes, they're literally being encouraged by their government to buy up real estate in America and Canada, I've heard they're doing the same in Europe and Australia. Chinese and Russian literally come to America on visit visas to give birth to their kids so they can become US citizens. Koreans actually take pride in coming to America, they're encouraged to study here and many of them end up working in America and living here permanently.

Pakistanis and Indians leaving the subcontinent for a better life isn't just for money, there's a high standard of living, safety, better education and healthcare and most importantly for me and many people it's the liberal culture, the judgement-free culture, we can do what we want and dress however we want. Western culture and American culture in particular is about individualism, I can't imagine living in Pakistan where you're peer pressued into religion, peer pressured into dressing and acting a certain way other you could be ostracized or even worse attacked (no concept of personal space in eastern cultures).

 

[RajBan]

My personal take based on my visits to both countries(I am an Indian). Pakistanis in UK/Europe predominantly came during post war industrial revolution. Number of blue collar immigrants has been much more given the opportunities as opposed to white collar aspirants or people going for higher education and settling down. Naturally a lot of working people grabbed that opportunity specially from Mirpur region. Punjab and Karachi then were relatively prosperous, socially advanced as well with more opportunities, as such proportionally less people from those areas immigrated.

In US it is more of a reverse scenario. Pakistanis coming here are more from upper middle or rich class coming for white collar jobs , business opportunities or higher education since 80s. Given that most of them come from socially affluent or educated back ground , the numbers obviously won't be as huge as Gulf or UK. My personal observation has been that pakistanis in US are highly established, educated and a pretty well established community. Yes there are working class Pakistanis in US as well but the ratio is not that skewed when compared to UK or Europe.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Dude stop making stuff up lol. The Chinese are moving in hordes, they're literally being encouraged by their government to buy up real estate in America and Canada, I've heard they're doing the same in Europe and Australia.

There's a difference between immigrating to another country (ie. abandoning your homeland) AND people going abroad to buy property. Most Chinese still maintain business links back home and only go abroad to earn. That's the difference...they literally buy up several properties to put on rent and then go home and live off that rent. How do you compare that to Pakistanis and Indians who worship the west...I've never seen lineups outside any American embassy in Beijing...you'll only see that in Pakistan and India.

Chinese and Russian literally come to America on visit visas to give birth to their kids so they can become US citizens.

Can you show me any evidence of Chinese and Russians doing that? That's something more akin from African countries or Central American countries.

Koreans actually take pride in coming to America, they're encouraged to study here and many of them end up working in America and living here permanently.

Koreans come in droves to America because they're escaping military conscription. Conscription in South Korea has existed since 1957 and requires EVERY male citizen between the ages of 18 and 28 to perform in the army compulsory military service. One way to escape that is to move abroad for a certain number of years, and South Korea will exempt you.

Pakistanis and Indians leaving the subcontinent for a better life isn't just for money, there's a high standard of living, safety, better education and healthcare and most importantly for me and many people it's the liberal culture, the judgement-free culture, we can do what we want and dress however we want.

Oh I see...so instead of staying back and wanting to make those changes in your own country, you'd rather just go abroad to live in some desi ghetto called mississauga or new jersey. Right.

Again, this is the difference between dumb desis and east Asians.

Korea was nothing...it was no better than Pakistan in 1950. The majority of its economy prior to the Korean war was agricultural based and it was a corrupt society led by moronic kings. The Koreans didn't run away from anything after the war...in 30 years they went from a completely destroyed nation to one that was hosting the Summer Olympics in 1988.

Japan, which was nuked twice off the map, rebuilt itself. The Japanese didn't run away.

Neither did the Germans run away.

This is the difference between just any nation and great nations. A nation that has self respect and self pride always goes to the top. Dead nations who worship the west never do...they just remain at the bottom.

Western culture and American culture in particular is about individualism, I can't imagine living in Pakistan where you're peer pressued into religion, peer pressured into dressing and acting a certain way other you could be ostracized or even worse attacked (no concept of personal space in eastern cultures).

Western culture has been about bombing anything that comes in their way and stealing the resources of other nations to fund their own machine. If that's something you're proud about so be it. But stop acting like this is normal.

Other than dumb desis, nobody takes pride in leaving their own land. Only you people do. Enjoy your desi ghettos.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

Western culture and American culture in particular is about individualism, I can't imagine living in Pakistan where you're peer pressued into religion, peer pressured into dressing and acting a certain way other you could be ostracized or even worse attacked (no concept of personal space in eastern cultures).

And if that's the problem, then advocate for change? What is running away going to do? This is exactly what I mean...this is the difference between dead nations and great nations.

If there's a problem, fight against it. That's what the French revolution was, the Russian revolution, the American revolution.

When will the Pakistani revolution happen? Lining up for your VISA ain't gonna change diddly squat.

I myself am a secularist. I oppose the idea of a religious state, and I'm happily living in Pakistan advocating for its change. You bring about change by teaching people and bringing awareness.

Not hightailing it out when things get rough.

 

[WC-Passion]

How much of this do people actually get to keep? How much does the govt. take away in taxes?

Well if your salary before tax was £50,000 a year, after tax your net salary would be around £36,000. This is just an estimation, you tend to get taxed in the 20% to 40% range if you work while not in education assuming your salary is around the average.