Why is Virat Kohli liked by so many in Pakistan, but Sachin Tendulkar still not as much?

[sully3]

Can you supported that with facts? Sachin averaged 59 during those 10 years with a century per 4 innings (approx). Lara averaged 51 odd with a century per 8.5 innings (approx).

It is my personal opinion so no i cant give you facts

Lara for me is the greatest ever batsman of all time. Kohli hasnt got the appetite to score big in Tests like Lara did or he would probably be my all time great infront of Lara.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

I don't think that is true at all. Tendulkar was held in very high esteem, possibly the highest esteem in Pakistan and by Pakistanis.

Kohli however is the flavour of the month and is highly promoted and talked about in cricketing circles, I don't think that makes him more liked overall. Tendulkar is still the post Viv benchmark for batsmen.

Nail. On. Head. I prefer Kohli as a player but see a lot of revisionism in this thread vis-a-vis Tendulkar. Kohli still hasn't surpassed Tendulkar in my eyes. What Tendulkar did in the late-90's in particular, in a team that was crap beyond measure (India were a very very poor side in that period) is the stuff of legends. Kohli came into a top quality unit replacing members of the best batting line-up of all time. Totally different circumstances.

 

[barah_admi]

Nail. On. Head. I prefer Kohli as a player but see a lot of revisionism in this thread vis-a-vis Tendulkar. Kohli still hasn't surpassed Tendulkar in my eyes. What Tendulkar did in the late-90's in particular, in a team that was crap beyond measure (India were a very very poor side in that period) is the stuff of legends. Kohli came into a top quality unit replacing members of the best batting line-up of all time. Totally different circumstances.

Agreed, plus Tendulkar's run in ODIs was so remarkable, in the days of bigger boundaries, smaller bats, no powerplays, no free hits and better bowlers.

Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara have not yet been surpassed, not even by Amla and AB, let alone by Kohli and co.

 

[yasir]

Tendulkar did not had much of personality, I am still surprise why he was so popular in India, I still doubt many girls were drooling over him at his peak

Lot of focus of Indian fans are meaningless Cricket records, during that time AUS won 5 world cups, where as Indians where were happy with loads of Sachin 100s in loosing cause. Sachin himself was too consumed by records, he played 2-4 years just to achieve another bench mark so that his fans can gaga for few decades. He did not feel like retiring after epic 8-0 loss in away test

Virat is more like Pakistani than Indian in personality, no surprise, he is a Punjabi, he has that Punjabi touch, that is probably more common in Pakistan than in India. Plus he has charisma, personality and looks. That is one of the reason Pakistanis like him.

He is also more focus on prime goal(winning), then secondary (his records), that's why he is better Captain thus far as well. He has hunger to win abroad rather than pile up stats, there is lot to be like about him

 

[dhonixi]

Many Pakistani behaving like all charisma and tough personality belongs to Pakistan. High level of delusion. Get your facts straight guys, charisma is not only in Pakistan and Punjab. You have a captain who is epitome of meek character. He doesn't have any personality.

 

[Hasan123]

Both are respected by Pakistan fans. Kohli is probably more liked due to his personality and the fact he always turns up against Pakistan apart from CT final.

 

[srh]

You will find many mocking, joking about Tendulkar. Some even going on to call him selfish, boring, etc.

And I'm talking about those who saw him play, during his time.

On the contrary, everyone just loves Kohli and have no shame in admitting he's the best.

Why?

Sachin did not faced the best Pakistani fast bowlers in their prime. Some Pakistani fans think that BCCI shielded Sachin this way.

Sachin was caught in tax evasion.

Sachin was not a match winner like Kohli.

 

[srh]

Lols you are taking about Sachin’s greatness in 90s as if you used to watch him in 90s. How old were you back then?

he was still in stroller at that time )

 

[sshakir411]

Many Pakistani behaving like all charisma and tough personality belongs to Pakistan. High level of delusion. Get your facts straight guys, charisma is not only in Pakistan and Punjab. You have a captain who is epitome of meek character. He doesn't have any personality.

Wow. Why are Indians getting so defensive? No Pakistani here said all charisma and personality belongs to Pakistan or Pakistanis. All people said is that's what they like. Also, our last 2 captains have been quieter personalities (Misbah & Sarfraz) and a good chunk of our population hates both...for that reason.

Why are Indians getting hurt at a fact - Sachin was a shy/weak personality. That's not necessarily a bad thing....it's just we Pakistanis don't prefer it.

 

[dhonixi]

Maybe. I can agree. My apologies [MENTION=49505]sshakir411[/MENTION]

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Sachin is a weak personality, I agree as well. Dude is as charismatic as a brick.

 

[Asch Ali]

A lot of indians hate Javed Miandad. But love Inzamam ul Haq. It has to do with personality and what the player thinks about the country.

 

[troodon]

Tendulkar did not had much of personality, I am still surprise why he was so popular in India, I still doubt many girls were drooling over him at his peak

Lot of focus of Indian fans are meaningless Cricket records, during that time AUS won 5 world cups, where as Indians where were happy with loads of Sachin 100s in loosing cause. Sachin himself was too consumed by records, he played 2-4 years just to achieve another bench mark so that his fans can gaga for few decades. He did not feel like retiring after epic 8-0 loss in away test

Virat is more like Pakistani than Indian in personality, no surprise, he is a Punjabi, he has that Punjabi touch, that is probably more common in Pakistan than in India. Plus he has charisma, personality and looks. That is one of the reason Pakistanis like him.

He is also more focus on prime goal(winning), then secondary (his records), that's why he is better Captain thus far as well. He has hunger to win abroad rather than pile up stats, there is lot to be like about him

Virat Kohli has Delhi lads attitude. Crude/rude and aggressive. Not Pakistani attitude.

Name one Pak player that is as aggressive and passionate like kohl?

 

[Adijazz1706]

Virat Kohli has Delhi lads attitude. Crude/rude and aggressive. Not Pakistani attitude.

Name one Pak player that is as aggressive and passionate like kohl?

That's true, Pakistan does not have any abusive players, but aggression has been there always case in point is aggressive on field then and is aggressive off field now

 

[Bhaijaan]

I said it in another thread and will repeat here.

Sachin remains the one and the only Indian player till date no Pakistani cricketer comes close to beating in cricketing greatness and popularity and it is a bitter realization for a lot of the fans in Pakistan especially the ones that grew up watching a star studded Pakistani team that even combined did not beat Tendulkar's hype throughout the 90s and 2000s. They've lied, played their tricks around the statistics and did everything they could to undermine Tendulkar's legacy which had 0% bearing on his overall stature among fans around the world.

Kohli is honestly in fact a very serious contender to Tendulkar but Pakistanis have over the years come up with far more ridiculous comparisons to a point they even put Umar Akmal above Tendulkar in terms of talent once.

In Dravid, MSD, Kohli many Pakistanis have conveniently looked out for a guy they could put over Tendulkar as an Indian great, but whom they could still trash when it came to picking the best overall player among all nations so that an Imran or an Akram could be placed above. I think you'd be incredibly naive as an online analyst if you have not been able to see through this blatantly obvious conspiracy against Sachin on online forums by Pakistanis.

Of course things never work their way and as Indians we all actually would absolutely love it when Kohli in fact takes over Sachin because that would obviously mean India would then have TWO and not one players above any player Pakistan's ever produced.

Bradman's an anomaly in terms of his numbers and having played in an era that bears little resemblance to the standard of cricket played today. Barring that Tendulkar comfortably beats the rest of the competition as the best as well as the most popular player in the game EVER. If Kohli ever manages to go past him it would simply mean Bradman, Tendulkar are joined by another player on top of the mountain.


-Bhaijaan

 

[Send1983]

I said it in another thread and will repeat here.

Sachin remains the one and the only Indian player till date no Pakistani cricketer comes close to beating in cricketing greatness and popularity and it is a bitter realization for a lot of the fans in Pakistan especially the ones that grew up watching a star studded Pakistani team that even combined did not beat Tendulkar's hype throughout the 90s and 2000s. They've lied, played their tricks around the statistics and did everything they could to undermine Tendulkar's legacy which had 0% bearing on his overall stature among fans around the world.

Kohli is honestly in fact a very serious contender to Tendulkar but Pakistanis have over the years come up with far more ridiculous comparisons to a point they even put Umar Akmal above Tendulkar in terms of talent once.

In Dravid, MSD, Kohli many Pakistanis have conveniently looked out for a guy they could put over Tendulkar as an Indian great, but whom they could still trash when it came to picking the best overall player among all nations so that an Imran or an Akram could be placed above. I think you'd be incredibly naive as an online analyst if you have not been able to see through this blatantly obvious conspiracy against Sachin on online forums by Pakistanis.

Of course things never work their way and as Indians we all actually would absolutely love it when Kohli in fact takes over Sachin because that would obviously mean India would then have TWO and not one players above any player Pakistan's ever produced.

Bradman's an anomaly in terms of his numbers and having played in an era that bears little resemblance to the standard of cricket played today. Barring that Tendulkar comfortably beats the rest of the competition as the best as well as the most popular player in the game EVER. If Kohli ever manages to go past him it would simply mean Bradman, Tendulkar are joined by another player on top of the mountain.


-Bhaijaan

Wow. Absolutely spot on. Exactly my thoughts.

 

[sshakir411]

Kohli being praised more by Pakistanis is also because he was never shoved down the throats of cricketing fans as the 'best thing since sliced bread'...Kohli was able to rise from the shadows of the Sachin hype machine that was in full swing during Kohli's first few years..that tells us Pakistanis what he's made of. Unlike the other player who had to be dropped like 8 times in a semi final to score his 100.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I said it in another thread and will repeat here.

Sachin remains the one and the only Indian player till date no Pakistani cricketer comes close to beating in cricketing greatness and popularity and it is a bitter realization for a lot of the fans in Pakistan especially the ones that grew up watching a star studded Pakistani team that even combined did not beat Tendulkar's hype throughout the 90s and 2000s. They've lied, played their tricks around the statistics and did everything they could to undermine Tendulkar's legacy which had 0% bearing on his overall stature among fans around the world.

Kohli is honestly in fact a very serious contender to Tendulkar but Pakistanis have over the years come up with far more ridiculous comparisons to a point they even put Umar Akmal above Tendulkar in terms of talent once.

In Dravid, MSD, Kohli many Pakistanis have conveniently looked out for a guy they could put over Tendulkar as an Indian great, but whom they could still trash when it came to picking the best overall player among all nations so that an Imran or an Akram could be placed above. I think you'd be incredibly naive as an online analyst if you have not been able to see through this blatantly obvious conspiracy against Sachin on online forums by Pakistanis.

Of course things never work their way and as Indians we all actually would absolutely love it when Kohli in fact takes over Sachin because that would obviously mean India would then have TWO and not one players above any player Pakistan's ever produced.

Bradman's an anomaly in terms of his numbers and having played in an era that bears little resemblance to the standard of cricket played today. Barring that Tendulkar comfortably beats the rest of the competition as the best as well as the most popular player in the game EVER. If Kohli ever manages to go past him it would simply mean Bradman, Tendulkar are joined by another player on top of the mountain.


-Bhaijaan

Beautifully put Bhaijaan. Deserves POTW.

 

[Send1983]

Same Pak fans who praise Kohli here and saying Kohli is better that Sachin would not agree with me completely if I tell them Kohli is better than KP, Abdv, Sanga, ponting, Lara, etc.,

 

[BreadPakoda]

Same Pak fans who praise Kohli here and saying Kohli is better that Sachin would not agree with me completely if I tell them Kohli is better than KP, Abdv, Sanga, ponting, Lara, etc.,

Even Babar, Shehzad, Akmal etc.

 

[ManFan]

I said it in another thread and will repeat here.

Sachin remains the one and the only Indian player till date no Pakistani cricketer comes close to beating in cricketing greatness and popularity and it is a bitter realization for a lot of the fans in Pakistan especially the ones that grew up watching a star studded Pakistani team that even combined did not beat Tendulkar's hype throughout the 90s and 2000s. They've lied, played their tricks around the statistics and did everything they could to undermine Tendulkar's legacy which had 0% bearing on his overall stature among fans around the world.

Kohli is honestly in fact a very serious contender to Tendulkar but Pakistanis have over the years come up with far more ridiculous comparisons to a point they even put Umar Akmal above Tendulkar in terms of talent once.

In Dravid, MSD, Kohli many Pakistanis have conveniently looked out for a guy they could put over Tendulkar as an Indian great, but whom they could still trash when it came to picking the best overall player among all nations so that an Imran or an Akram could be placed above. I think you'd be incredibly naive as an online analyst if you have not been able to see through this blatantly obvious conspiracy against Sachin on online forums by Pakistanis.

Of course things never work their way and as Indians we all actually would absolutely love it when Kohli in fact takes over Sachin because that would obviously mean India would then have TWO and not one players above any player Pakistan's ever produced.

Bradman's an anomaly in terms of his numbers and having played in an era that bears little resemblance to the standard of cricket played today. Barring that Tendulkar comfortably beats the rest of the competition as the best as well as the most popular player in the game EVER. If Kohli ever manages to go past him it would simply mean Bradman, Tendulkar are joined by another player on top of the mountain.


-Bhaijaan

It has more to do with the fact that Kohli is an extrovert with charisma, intensity, and a freakish ability to chase almost any score. All he is missing to surpass Tendulkar in ODI's is a great WC. Even Tendulkar took 6 tries and even than failed on the grand stage.

No Pakistani cricket fan is jealous of Tendulkar's global popularity. They respect his achievements and service to the game. He is widely recognized as the greatest modern batsman but that does not take away his faults and lack of marketability.

Kohli is more of a Pakistani cricketer than an Indian cricketer. The traditional Indian cricketer has been quiet, meek, and lacking general aggression. This is due to their cricketing history, where they focused on spin and out-thinking the opposition rather than blowing their heads off with fast bowlers. The traditional Pakistani cricketer has been charismatic, fast, and not taking any crap from the opposition. Kohli is the first Indian cricketer to give back with as much force as the opposition such as AUS. Some look at this and see arrogance but I see a confident young man who will not allow his team to be undermined on a world stage.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Same Pak fans who praise Kohli here and saying Kohli is better that Sachin would not agree with me completely if I tell them Kohli is better than KP, Abdv, Sanga, ponting, Lara, etc.,

He's better them all in limited overs.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Same Pak fans who praise Kohli here and saying Kohli is better that Sachin would not agree with me completely if I tell them Kohli is better than KP, Abdv, Sanga, ponting, Lara, etc.,

Only AB is comparable to Kohli in LOI. The rest exceot Ponting are lightyears behind.

 

[pillionrider]

Kohli is the first Indian cricketer to give back with as much force as the opposition such as AUS.

In terms of overt display, in modern day cricket, Ganguly and his boys like Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer were doing it way before Virat. Virat watched them and honed his overt display.

Some look at this and see arrogance but I see a confident young man who will not allow his team to be undermined on a world stage.

Sachin did this decades before and consistently as did players like Dravid or Laxman on occasion.

I said it in another thread and will repeat here.

Sachin remains the one and the only Indian player till date no Pakistani cricketer comes close to beating in cricketing greatness and popularity and it is a bitter realization for a lot of the fans in Pakistan especially the ones that grew up watching a star studded Pakistani team that even combined did not beat Tendulkar's hype throughout the 90s and 2000s. They've lied, played their tricks around the statistics and did everything they could to undermine Tendulkar's legacy which had 0% bearing on his overall stature among fans around the world.

Kohli is honestly in fact a very serious contender to Tendulkar but Pakistanis have over the years come up with far more ridiculous comparisons to a point they even put Umar Akmal above Tendulkar in terms of talent once.

In Dravid, MSD, Kohli many Pakistanis have conveniently looked out for a guy they could put over Tendulkar as an Indian great, but whom they could still trash when it came to picking the best overall player among all nations so that an Imran or an Akram could be placed above. I think you'd be incredibly naive as an online analyst if you have not been able to see through this blatantly obvious conspiracy against Sachin on online forums by Pakistanis.

Of course things never work their way and as Indians we all actually would absolutely love it when Kohli in fact takes over Sachin because that would obviously mean India would then have TWO and not one players above any player Pakistan's ever produced.

Bradman's an anomaly in terms of his numbers and having played in an era that bears little resemblance to the standard of cricket played today. Barring that Tendulkar comfortably beats the rest of the competition as the best as well as the most popular player in the game EVER. If Kohli ever manages to go past him it would simply mean Bradman, Tendulkar are joined by another player on top of the mountain.


-Bhaijaan

This can't be repeated enough.

 

[Hitman]

It is my personal opinion so no i cant give you facts

Lara for me is the greatest ever batsman of all time. Kohli hasnt got the appetite to score big in Tests like Lara did or he would probably be my all time great infront of Lara.

You should have said Lara was your favorite batsman in the 90's. Instead you said Lara was the best batsman of the 90's, making it look like a fact.

 

[www787]

Kholi is a great batsmen, probably top 3 Indian batsmen to ever play for India but he isn’t better than Tendulkar, at least, not yet.

And anyone dismissing Tendulkar over Kholi is just a fool in my opinion.

Agree, if Kholi stay fit he will most likely beat Tendulkar's record of runs, maybe then it can be said he is better than Tendulkar.

Kholi is better than Tendulkar in only one department, Captaincy. Tendulkar captaincy was never impressive and it affected his performance as a batsmen.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Dravid, Gavsakar, and even Kohli - are NOT liars.

SRT however.......?

From his Autobiography:

Sachin describes his “shock” and “humiliation” when he was accused of ball tampering by English match referee, the late Mike Denness, on a tour to South Africa in 2001. He considered leaving the tour and explained he was only using his thumb to clean grass off the ball. “I wasn’t prepared to let it pass. I informed Mike Denness that I would complain about the allegation and would not keep quiet about.” The tour was nearly cancelled before Sachin was cleared and Denness’s career as a match referee was soon over

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/c...-Sachin-Tendulkars-autobiographical-book.html

Now, lets take a look at the video of the incident:

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Thumb or Index Finger? Hmmm. You know what they say, the easiest thing to remember is the TRUTH!

Kohli is a humble, you see what you get, human being. Hence why he is respected by Pakistan (and the world) above SRT.

 

[ManFan]

In terms of overt display, in modern day cricket, Ganguly and his boys like Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer were doing it way before Virat. Virat watched them and honed his overt display.



Sachin did this decades before and consistently as did players like Dravid or Laxman on occasion.



This can't be repeated enough.

Ganguly and the boys only showcased it on a very few occasions like the 2003 Final against England with Ganguly taking his shirt off to mimick Flintoff.

SRT, Laxman, Dravid were all great players.

But they never showcased confidence, arrogance, aggression like VK does. NEVER.

 

[PakLFC]

Virat Kohli is a much better person. Sachin has a politicised mind and is very anti Pakistani. Great player but sucks as a person.

 

[sully3]

Tendulkar had a personality of a dead tree, Virat is cool and seems to be intellectual but still has a banter side to him off the pitch.

India forced the cricketing world to like Sachin, Virat made the cricketing world like him by himself.

Not even a comparison Virat is 10x times the player Sachin was.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Fitter better athelte, better captain and more dynamic. Also a lot more presentable.

Sachin was world class but not quite all the ingredients.