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Why Subcontinental teams will never reach the domination level of Australia in the World Cup

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When Starc was asked about how he was in sight of breaking McGrath's record he said "It means nothing if I don't have the winners medal"

Last April, when Maxwell scored a 90-odd and was asked if he was disappointed he replied: "I won't remember my centuries if they don't win me matches. I will remember the matches where I helped my team win" or something like that.

From the 2015 WC winning squad, Australia has retained 6 of their players. Compare that with Subcontinental teams and you will see that they have retained atleast 50% of their squad from 2015. Perhaps India is better in that aspect because they dropped underperformers with the exception of MS Dhoni who is honestly being picked on the basis of his past and not present performance. He is literally blocking the path for talented batsman like Rishabh Pant. And Bangladesh? We played a captain who is unfit to the state that he cannot even run and has averaged 350+ with the ball. Pakistan too are carrying several passengers like Malik, Hafeez, Riaz who I believe aren't at their best.

What I am trying to say here is that Subcontinental players have this sense of entitlement. Players are picked based on history and not to give them the best chance of winning the world cup. Board members and fans are often "okay" with it. In sport, you need to let go of emotions. And world cup is the pinnacle of our sport. And teams like Australia have won 5 world cups so far not because of emotion but they just want to give themselves the best chance of winning. On the other hand Bangladesh gave leeway to Mashrafe and guess where did Bangladesh rank? 8th. Yes. 8th with arguably the best ever team it has ever had with senior cricketers at their peak and we finished below 8th even below South Africa who have a had poor world cup.
 
Lol, this is exactly what Rohit Sharma has said after each ton and Kohli has said many times in the past
 
Atleast SC teams have won 4 WCs. NZ, SA and Eng have none.

England not winning the world cup is a surprise no doubt. NZ and SA don't have a great talent pool.

Perhaps only modern day India has the ability to challenge Australia's history as India have turned into a completely professional unit nowadays under BCCI.
 
The domination level which Australia had during that particular period will be tough for any team to replicate back at a given period of time but India over time can definitely reduce the deficit by being the top team in the world for a decade more.

India are the best ODI and even test team of the 2010s.
 
Don't insult Australia by adding other non-subcontinental teams with them lol Imagine NZ fans gloating SENA countries have won 5 world cups. Subcontinental team have won only 4 world cups.
 
When Starc was asked about how he was in sight of breaking McGrath's record he said "It means nothing if I don't have the winners medal"

Last April, when Maxwell scored a 90-odd and was asked if he was disappointed he replied: "I won't remember my centuries if they don't win me matches. I will remember the matches where I helped my team win" or something like that.

From the 2015 WC winning squad, Australia has retained 6 of their players. Compare that with Subcontinental teams and you will see that they have retained atleast 50% of their squad from 2015. Perhaps India is better in that aspect because they dropped underperformers with the exception of MS Dhoni who is honestly being picked on the basis of his past and not present performance. He is literally blocking the path for talented batsman like Rishabh Pant. And Bangladesh? We played a captain who is unfit to the state that he cannot even run and has averaged 350+ with the ball. Pakistan too are carrying several passengers like Malik, Hafeez, Riaz who I believe aren't at their best.

What I am trying to say here is that Subcontinental players have this sense of entitlement. Players are picked based on history and not to give them the best chance of winning the world cup. Board members and fans are often "okay" with it. In sport, you need to let go of emotions. And world cup is the pinnacle of our sport. And teams like Australia have won 5 world cups so far not because of emotion but they just want to give themselves the best chance of winning. On the other hand Bangladesh gave leeway to Mashrafe and guess where did Bangladesh rank? 8th. Yes. 8th with arguably the best ever team it has ever had with senior cricketers at their peak and we finished below 8th even below South Africa who have a had poor world cup.

Brother you are absolutely right!
But even some of the fans don't get it, with some of the replies to this thread!
Let me spell it out for those fans :-
All that matters is the team winning, not the individuals milestones and only the best available players in the country should play in the national team!!
 
It's a question of talent more than anything that separated the 80s West Indies and 00s Australia from other dominant teams now. Australia had the best openers, best middle order, best fast bowlers and best spinners. Each one of them were world beaters. No team right now has that. India could get close if they had a strong middle order.

Let's face it though, not having one dominant team is good for the game. I remember it being so annoying to see Australia lift all those trophies in the 00s.
 
Brother you are absolutely right!
But even some of the fans don't get it, with some of the replies to this thread!
Let me spell it out for those fans :-
All that matters is the team winning, not the individuals milestones and only the best available players in the country should play in the national team!!

I don't know about Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Lankan or Afghani fans but I know our indian fans don't give a damn about domination, rivalary, competitive cricket or individual milestones. All they care about is fun which is provided by IPL. :inti
 
It's funny to see you mixing India with other subcontinental teams. You will not see one team dominating the cricket in the future because the other teams are vastly improving, compared to how it was back in the old days. There's a lot of competition nowadays and its only going to get tougher.
 
These things come with evolution of sporting culture.

As more and more professionalism I’m instilled in your national structure, more mature and clear the thought process of teams and individuals get.

You cannot expect Afghanistan players to have the same professional mindset of Aussie or Indian players of today because they have not been groomed in that environment.

Also a lot of these words are pure cliches/professional talk etc which players of evolved cricket nations learn/pick up. Their interviews will be more refined and diplomatic. Compare that to press conferences of some of the other lesser teams. You will clearly see and feel that difference.

It all comes with time, with more money investment, with more professional coaching, mentoring etc etc

India is a classic example. Today they are mimicking Aussies in most ways. It has come with year on year investment into our cricket.

Bangladesh is also coming off and becoming a more professionally run set up.

Pakistanis are still kind of paendu which will remain as it comes naturally to them. Even with money they remain paendu and you gotta respect. Always choose to be original and not someone who you are not
 
A thing I will say is that India are heading in the direction because they have not bothered when it comes to dumping guys like Ashwin, Yuvraj Singh.
 
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