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Why was Ijaz Ahmed discarded so early?

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Looking at the Cricinfo stats, he played his match for Pakistan at the age of 32. Most batsmen play till the age of 36-38 and some reach their peak in their mid 30's.

I wonder why was he discarded so early by the selectors back then. He was completely out of favor after the Australia tour 1999-2000 even though he hit a century in Perth and scored 80 at Hobart. In the Carlton and United Series he played a few good knocks as well.

After that he was completely discarded. He got a recall against Sri lanka for one test match where he got a bad decision in the second innings and then he got a final opportunity against NZ in the third test in 2011 where he was forced to play as an opener in the third test match.

He may not have been in the league of Inzamam, Yousaf, Younis, Salim Malik e.t.c. but considering the quality of batsmen we are producing in our domestic cricket these days, Ijaz looks like Bradman compared to them.

He had a very ordinary technique but he made up for it with a fearless, aggressive attitude. I mean just look at his performances against Australia in Australia at a time when the Australian wickets were more challenging to bat on compared to now. He has even scored centuries in England which completely destroys the notion that he was a flat track bully.

He may only have an ODI average of 32 but bear in mind in his first 80-90 matches under Imran Khan he was always put very lower down the order and he average around 23 and Imran Khan only kept him in the team for his excellent fielding. For him to pick his average up from 23 to 32 was a pretty decent achievement considering the way the early part of his career started.

I think he could have easily played atleast another 3-4 more years and looked to have retired by 2006-07. The way Pakistan discards and mis-treats its players is nothing short of disgraceful.
 
He had obviously faked his age, which is the norm, if you saw him play around the end of his career, he had put on weight, his hand eye coordination had depleted, and age was not on his side, he was surely close to 40 then, so there was no injustice done... you can sleep easy again :)
 
In 2003 after the world cup Pakistan forced retirement on quite a few players. Waqar Younis probably had a few years of Odi cricket left in him.



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Fantastic player. Truly a 'cool dude' cricketer.

Why was he discarded? Sorry no idea :) Had to pipe in though.
 
Because :yk2 burst onto the scene apparently as the heir to the throne. Lol, how wrong could the selectors be...

YK was young and Ijaz was aging, I don't know why they thought he'd make it as an odi player, but hey this is PCB, so then Ijaz got the axe...
 
Another factor seems to be his association with Salim Malik (Ijaz was his brother in law), and the fact their names kept coming up during the match fixing investigations leading to the Qayum report.

He seems to have been heavily implicated so it was probably felt it was time to move on. To be honest, as every one is aware, a number of 'star' players were also implicated so there seems to be an inconsistency with their treatment. However, I suspect his relationship with Salim Malik probably counted against him.

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He was one of my favourite players back in the day. He was ahead of his time. I think he would have made millions $ in T20 leagues if he was a player of this era.

I would like to see him in the coaching set up somewhere. He was a self made cricketer, the butcher and was Imran Khan’s favourite. His 139* off 84 balls against India was an unreal knock.
 
He was one of my favourite players back in the day. He was ahead of his time. I think he would have made millions $ in T20 leagues if he was a player of this era.

I would like to see him in the coaching set up somewhere. He was a self made cricketer, the butcher and was Imran Khan’s favourite. His 139* off 84 balls against India was an unreal knock.


What a great innings that was!

He was also a great fielder if I remember correctly.
 
The Axe-Man was one of the few to hold up against Australia in the 90’s.
 
He was pretty average player.

Imran played him as lower order hitter , who could bowl few overs , and he was good fielder as well.
 
Was strong on the cut and pull hence a good record in Australia but like so many Pakistani players it was either feast or famine. Wasn't consistent enough to be ranked amongst the world's best.

He did make a coaching comeback a few years ago.

Of course, only the PCB would appoint someone whose technique earned him the moniker "Axe Man" batting coach.
 
He had really faulty batting technique but he compensated it with good reflexes , like Sehwaq. When he turned a bit older and his reflexes got slower, he was not able to score many runs, again like Sehwaq.
 
Is he not wearing helmet facing fast bowlers or any bowler ?

At that time (1990's), many batsmen used to not wear helmets against pacers.

Furthermore, Indian pacers in the 90's were not really threatening.
 
He was discarded too early. Could have played till 2003
 
He was discarded too early. Could have played till 2003

No, he was born as about 6 or may be 8 years old. I saw him in nets as a ball boy when he was officially 19 years old FGS.....

Those days, there was a minimum standard in PCT (and fans as well - won’t have boasted about their mighty status to finish 5th in WC), therefore he had to leave; otherwise considering MoHa, Malik as current backbone he could have played even in 2011 WC!!!!
 
Was a decent player ... but by 2000 rise of yousuf ,inzi, younis he had no role in the team.
 
Hed been playing for pakistan on and off since 1986 so 14 years - i dont think he was discarded early
 
OK player who played some great innings from time to time. 139 against India is an all-timer. But he was thoroughly tainted like his brother in law. Not nearly as talented as him though,
 
At that time (1990's), many batsmen used to not wear helmets against pacers.

Furthermore, Indian pacers in the 90's were not really threatening.

By 1990, almost every batsman was wearing helmet but you're right looking at India's "pace" bowling then there was no need for helmet. India really had very weak pace bowling through out their history, until now.
 
516 in his last 18 test innings which included 211 as well against srilanka.

his odi career was in decline too.


he faked his age as well.
 
Another factor seems to be his association with Salim Malik (Ijaz was his brother in law), and the fact their names kept coming up during the match fixing investigations leading to the Qayum report.

He seems to have been heavily implicated so it was probably felt it was time to move on. To be honest, as every one is aware, a number of 'star' players were also implicated so there seems to be an inconsistency with their treatment. However, I suspect his relationship with Salim Malik probably counted against him.

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Gotta say, guy has Swag and treated Warne as a a club level bowler. Had a pretty good record in V Aussies when our other batsmen used to not be able to buy a run .
 
By 1990, almost every batsman was wearing helmet but you're right looking at India's "pace" bowling then there was no need for helmet. India really had very weak pace bowling through out their history, until now.

I remember Sherwin Campbell (regular West Indies opener) and Saleem Malik used to have no grills with the helmets.

Many batsmen actually batted without helmets once in a while (didn't matter if the bowler was pacer or spinner).
 
32-34 is the age you look at slowly moving a player on or actually kicking them out. In Pakistan this is the age where our players make plans to play every format till 40.
 
He was pretty average player.

Imran played him as lower order hitter , who could bowl few overs , and he was good fielder as well.
Completely disagree here. Ijaz along with Anwar were well ahead of their time as ODI players. Strike of 80 in that era was like strike rate of 110 today.

I think Ijaz’s overall career average was impacted due to being played as a late order striker in the early part of his career. Ijaz was extremely good though and played for the team specially more so under Imran. He was in a way the unsung hero of 1992 WC. Quietly bowled his economical overs, fielded brilliantly and made no complains of not getting enough chances to bat up the order.

Ijaz’s problems started when Miandad became coach. Miandad ruined Ijaz’s career. I may be wrong but may be Miandad was planting a seed for Faisal Iqbal’s inclusion in the team.

Ijaz was the real butcher. Cuts, pulls and hooks. I remember he helped Afridi immensely on his game against quicks.

I know we all are in search of the next Inzi, the next Anwar, the next Younis Khan. What we really need to be looking for is the next Ijaz. A brave heart cricketer!

Almost every cricketer in the Pakistan team got a chance to captain in the 90s. We had Anwar, Sohail,
Malik, Wasim, Waqar, Miandad, Moin, Rashid. For some strange reason Ijaz was never made captain. Perhaps he was not the politician which others were.
 
He was at least a 100 times better cricketer than Hafeez. When he stopped performing PCB dropped him, he knew and moved on with his life.

Instead of clinging on to the team and burdening! :moha
 
Completely disagree here. Ijaz along with Anwar were well ahead of their time as ODI players. Strike of 80 in that era was like strike rate of 110 today.

I think Ijaz’s overall career average was impacted due to being played as a late order striker in the early part of his career. Ijaz was extremely good though and played for the team specially more so under Imran. He was in a way the unsung hero of 1992 WC. Quietly bowled his economical overs, fielded brilliantly and made no complains of not getting enough chances to bat up the order.

Ijaz’s problems started when Miandad became coach. Miandad ruined Ijaz’s career. I may be wrong but may be Miandad was planting a seed for Faisal Iqbal’s inclusion in the team.

Ijaz was the real butcher. Cuts, pulls and hooks. I remember he helped Afridi immensely on his game against quicks.

I know we all are in search of the next Inzi, the next Anwar, the next Younis Khan. What we really need to be looking for is the next Ijaz. A brave heart cricketer!

Almost every cricketer in the Pakistan team got a chance to captain in the 90s. We had Anwar, Sohail,
Malik, Wasim, Waqar, Miandad, Moin, Rashid. For some strange reason Ijaz was never made captain. Perhaps he was not the politician which others were.

No strange reason. He was almost definitely involved in fixing. It’s funny that him and Mushtaq (heavily implicated in the Qayyum report as well as a known gambler) are now in charge of our U19 team. To me that speaks volumes about the state of our cricket. God bless the next Basit or Amir.
 
After a slow initial start to his career where he was used as a bits and pieces player down the order Ijaz became a vital cog of the mid - late 90s team, batting at 3 and holding his own amongst big players like anwar and inzy

Unfortunaltely he was a bit hot and cold but on his day capable of destroying any attack with brute force

Hed never get any points for a technique that was aesthetically pleasing to the eye but he had worked out his own way of playing which was effective particularly on bouncy tracks and taller bowlers where he could cut and pull ferociously

Like most have said he was in reality about 35-36 nearing the end of his career and the bro in law of saleem malik who was implicated in the match fixing scandal

I guess the management thought itd be better to move him along all things taken into accout
 
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No strange reason. He was almost definitely involved in fixing. It’s funny that him and Mushtaq (heavily implicated in the Qayyum report as well as a known gambler) are now in charge of our U19 team. To me that speaks volumes about the state of our cricket. God bless the next Basit or Amir.
I guess this is the real issue. We have never treated all the fixers equally
 
Very dodgy, his name always cropped up in these betting circles. Never trust a sportsmen’s integrity when they are also involved in heavy gambling.
 
he was not 32 when he retired. close to 40 i would assume. he was always in shape, great fielder and a decent part time bowler. born in the wrong era was made for T20. i would pick him over afridi 10 out of 10 times. brother in law of saleem malik and there are some fishy instances of him regarding match fixing. never convicted though. hell of a hitter of a ball
 
Well he got to an age where Pakistan moved on from him specially with the emergence of Afridi, Razzaq and Mahmood as Big hitting allrounders.
 
Looks like it haha. I'd have flipped the bird at both Anwar and Ijaz because their dismissals were disgusting that night having started so well.

Damn, I would never expect Anwar to be that hostile! haha!

Going through the highlights, I noticed that this team did really look up for the fight. Rashid was quite pumped and clearly so were Anwar and Amir too! Sad that they couldn't back it up though
 
He had obviously faked his age, which is the norm, if you saw him play around the end of his career, he had put on weight, his hand eye coordination had depleted, and age was not on his side, he was surely close to 40 then, so there was no injustice done... you can sleep easy again :)

This.

Ijaz Ahmed's age was always a joke - he was supposedly 19 in the West Indies in 1987-88 when he was at least 25 years of age.

His age-cheating caught up with him when his brother-in-law Saleem Malik lost his foothold in the team in the late 1990s. Suddenly Ijaz survived or departed on the basis of his performances outside Asia - he had always been an Outside Asia Specialist.

But on his last two tours to Australia and New Zealand he scored 242 runs in 5 Tests at an average of 26.88.

I realise that Misbah and Azhar Ali have had such returns tolerated in recent years, but in those days there was already Inzamam, Mohammad Yousuf and the emerging Younis Khan, and the team didn't need to carry an outside-Asia specialist who averaged 27.

Why would you when you had three top quality all-rounders in Abdul Razzaq, Azhar Mahmood and Shahid Afridi? Dropping Ijaz strengthened the team.
 
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One of the greatest ODI innings ever.
 
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