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Will any Indian bowler ever break the record of the fastest delivery ever bowled in the game?

Don't think anyone's gonna breakthe current record from any country for the next 50 years.

Will India find a 150 KPH plus bowler? Yes.
 
When we will get any fast bowler like McGrath or styen or Will we see Indian fast bowler dominate like Australian or African type
 
Bit of a non-argument to be honest. I doubt anyone is going to with how much cricket is played and how little incentive there is for pure pace bowling, less of an Indian pace competency thing, more of a case of the trend of world cricket.
 
Never. Some Indian could bowl the slowest delivery in the game though:)):14:
 
Nope. I can see some 150 kmph+ Indian bowlers but not the fastest. The closet you guys came was with Srinath.

The other reason is that Shoaib has a specific hyper-extension condition that enabled him to hit those speeds. It's one of those situations with Muralidharan; doubt that once in a lifetime ability will come round anytime soon.
 
Anything is possible if young guys take interest in cricket and fast bowling from any country. Someone might come breaking that record.

However the priority for India should be get a regular 150 + pacer with good control.
 
yes but there is no need of it. If we get decent 140 - 145 bowler who can do well in all condition then that will be great.
 
Maybe, a couple of 19 year olds are already hitting the 145 + mark regularly, given proper guidance (nutritional and otherwise) which India has, I don't see why not. However they have to have it in them to actually try to the break the barrier as the ones who did or got close to it were single mindedly dedicated to the cause. Although I doubt it, as this was the case back in the day akin to the US/Russia space race. At the moment given the different formats and rules bowlers would be better to learn different variations to increase their longevity.
 
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Why did you specifically say 'Indian' bowlers instead of just bowlers?
 
Rahul1 said:
Why did you specifically say 'Indian' bowlers instead of just bowlers?
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What's wrong with that? It's a genuine question as no Indian bowler has achieved it yet. No need to be so ultra sensitive all the time.
 
DeadBall said:
What's wrong with that? It's a genuine question as no Indian bowler has achieved it yet. No need to be so ultra sensitive all the time.
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Only Aussies and 1 pakistani has broken the 160k barrier. Its a very rare occurence.

Only Tait has breached it twice.

I would be happy with a bowler with 150ks consistently. We have couple who regularly clock 145 plus and a some who are 140 plus.

But with this you need to be reasonably accurate and move the ball.

But above all they must know how to take wickets. Thats the art.
 
Nothing wrong with dreaming. It possible in 25 years or later. 20-25 years ago, we never had a fast bowler from India hitting > 130 km/h . India is changing and now they have bowler hitting high 140s, so you never know. Only problem is , they don't have physique to achieve that goal.
 
Rahul1 said:
I'm not sensitive. I'm just curious.
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Yes but you brought the question of "why Indians" into it alluding to ulterior motives. The OP is the most Indian of Indians here if I may say so myself.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Only Aussies and 1 pakistani has broken the 160k barrier. Its a very rare occurence.

Only Tait has breached it twice.

I would be happy with a bowler with 150ks consistently. We have couple who regularly clock 145 plus and a some who are 140 plus.

But with this you need to be reasonably accurate and move the ball.

But above all they must know how to take wickets. Thats the art.
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True we have Wahab spray gun Riaz and look what that got us. I myself think pace is over rated and given the evolving skill set of batsmen even a hindrance. We all remember and romanticize Shoaibs wickets due to his sheer pace (which were awesome) but there were many hit me balls and even balls that flew to the boundaries off edges due to the pace.
 
Question is if there's any Indian kid out there that wants to break this record?
 
If India could get a junior world champion in javelin throw in athletics who could potentially be winning our first olympic medal in athletics in future, I beleive BCCI can unearth one who can hit 160 with the kind of infrastructure and coaching they have built up now.I am from Kerala which is not a traditional cricket power house though a powerhouse in many other sports and there is definite method and reason behind our recent performances in Ranji and emergence of players like Thampi and Asif.Kerala cricket association has now stadiums in most of our districts and has residential academies.With such infrastructure all over the country, I expect lot of talent from rural areas to come through.
 
161km is rare, may be we’ll never see that because the game is changing. But 155k+ is definitely possible.

I was checking Commonwelth games and one Indian kid won the Javelin gold beating African & Carriebean athletes. Searching further I can see same guy winning World Junior Title with a record (around 86-87 metres, which is world class). If that’s possible, why not in fast bowling - mechanics are similar.

Some of the posts here not only irritating, but ignorant as well. Going to same Commnwelth games, I am surprised with Indian boxers. I had interest in amateur boxing like 2 decades back when PAK was a power of boxing, at least in Asia - today, no PAK boxer made the QF, in fact SRL boxers have done much better; while from a small state of Haryana, which was a small part of Punjab, I think 7/8 boxers have made the medal podium including 3/4 gold.

System produces pro sportsman - only fools think that genetics does the job.
 
moghul said:
Nothing wrong with dreaming. It possible in 25 years or later. 20-25 years ago, we never had a fast bowler from India hitting > 130 km/h . India is changing and now they have bowler hitting high 140s, so you never know. Only problem is , they don't have physique to achieve that goal.
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If same physique can help us win boxing and Wrestling medals why not fast bowling.
 
Both Aaron & Yadav has consistently touched 150 plus. If Aaron was given more opportunities he would have gotten close to the 160K mark imo...
 
dauntless said:
Nope never. Not good enough. Trundlers and trundlers only.
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Fast does not mean effective. No team needs fast bowlers if they are ineffective. It is my observation that since SA tour of India, during tests, you have been just vomiting venom against India but during ODIs, you were nowhere to be seen on PP.
 
Hitman said:
What do you posters believe? Any chance in the future?
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You have to bind future by time. Future can also mean 50 years from now which is enough for India to produce the fastest bowler in history considering youngsters are taking interest now in fast bowling.

If you are talking about next 10 years, then no.
 
Well it's not impossible, so it can happen but like everyone said very unlikely.
 
MMHS said:
161km is rare, may be we’ll never see that because the game is changing. But 155k+ is definitely possible.

I was checking Commonwelth games and one Indian kid won the Javelin gold beating African & Carriebean athletes. Searching further I can see same guy winning World Junior Title with a record (around 86-87 metres, which is world class). If that’s possible, why not in fast bowling - mechanics are similar.

Some of the posts here not only irritating, but ignorant as well. Going to same Commnwelth games, I am surprised with Indian boxers. I had interest in amateur boxing like 2 decades back when PAK was a power of boxing, at least in Asia - today, no PAK boxer made the QF, in fact SRL boxers have done much better; while from a small state of Haryana, which was a small part of Punjab, I think 7/8 boxers have made the medal podium including 3/4 gold.

System produces pro sportsman - only fools think that genetics does the job.
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Thank you for stating a fact that needs to be repeated on many threads here on PP. Genetics do play a part but a professional setup does more to make a successful athlete then anything else. Chinese are doing great in lots of sports where they were nobodies few decades back. They didn't mutate in few decades they just put on world class system which identifies and nurtures the right athlete. As and when India grows it will become possible to unearth more talent and nurture the them. Who knows what we will find. This applies to all countries..
 
Rishta Aunty said:
Nope. I can see some 150 kmph+ Indian bowlers but not the fastest. The closet you guys came was with Srinath.

The other reason is that Shoaib has a specific hyper-extension condition that enabled him to hit those speeds. It's one of those situations with Muralidharan; doubt that once in a lifetime ability will come round anytime soon.
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Yes, Srinath at one point of time was bowling really quick, comparable to the fastest bowlers of all time. I thought Aaron did have it in him, but his career never shot up.
 
Not required phast bowlers, let IND countinue to get consistent bowlers with 140+ speed with skills to deceive batters :19:
 
160 kph is extremely rare in cricket. Akhtar,Tait and Lee and probably that one off by Starc but I don't believe that reading personally. As far as Indian bowlers are concerned, I'd be happy if we had bowlers who could bowl 140 kph consistently and get some bounce and movement and occasionally touching 150 kph. Problem is that we have only produced about 4 bowlers who have breached this mark - Srinath, Ishant, Umesh and Aaron.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Yes, Srinath at one point of time was bowling really quick, comparable to the fastest bowlers of all time. I thought Aaron did have it in him, but his career never shot up.
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He is playing for Leicestershire in this County Season as cover for Mohammad Abbas; chance for him to revive himself
 
Romali_rotti said:
Both Aaron & Yadav has consistently touched 150 plus. If Aaron was given more opportunities he would have gotten close to the 160K mark imo...
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I like how you casually slipped in the word consistently lol . Must have a totally different meaning in your dictionary.
 
Bowling 155 kph plus is very very rare .
The fastest bowlers in the world right now are wahab riaz and billy stanlake and they are no where near as quick as shoaib and lee .
The young crop of of under 16 , under 18 bowlers coming through for Pakistan from the pepsi pcb u16 program are some of the fastest i have seen . I wont be surprised if a couple of them turn out to be express.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Yes, Srinath at one point of time was bowling really quick, comparable to the fastest bowlers of all time. I thought Aaron did have it in him, but his career never shot up.
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Aaron had no control at all. Srinath on the other hand underachieved for his skill-set. Had no support whatsoever from the other end that hurt him very badly. I think he was the 2nd fastest bowler at the 1996 World Cup if I remember right. Pretty rapid.
 
Allegedly Atul Sharma already has.

According to himself :afridi
 
not gonna happen untill and unless it is speed gun problem.India can find a real fast bowler touching 150kph in future .They even now have good fast bowlers who can clock 150kph.
 
No, because India isn't interested in fast bowling. It isn't part of their culture like Aus and Pak, and formerly WI
 
I am not sure of any practical use of this record unlike highest number of wickets/runs or even fastest 100 or fifty.
 
Rishta Aunty said:
Aaron had no control at all. Srinath on the other hand underachieved for his skill-set. Had no support whatsoever from the other end that hurt him very badly. I think he was the 2nd fastest bowler at the 1996 World Cup if I remember right. Pretty rapid.
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Srinath was bowling express pace around 95-97 and was the 2nd fastest in the 99 WC, even after his shoulder injury. He was 2nd only to Shoaib Akhtar in the tournament.
 
MMHS said:
161km is rare, may be we’ll never see that because the game is changing. But 155k+ is definitely possible.

I was checking Commonwelth games and one Indian kid won the Javelin gold beating African & Carriebean athletes. Searching further I can see same guy winning World Junior Title with a record (around 86-87 metres, which is world class). If that’s possible, why not in fast bowling - mechanics are similar.

Some of the posts here not only irritating, but ignorant as well. Going to same Commnwelth games, I am surprised with Indian boxers. I had interest in amateur boxing like 2 decades back when PAK was a power of boxing, at least in Asia - today, no PAK boxer made the QF, in fact SRL boxers have done much better; while from a small state of Haryana, which was a small part of Punjab, I think 7/8 boxers have made the medal podium including 3/4 gold.

System produces pro sportsman - only fools think that genetics does the job.
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Top post! You are totally right. I am a boxer too, btw!
 
MMHS said:
161km is rare, may be we’ll never see that because the game is changing. But 155k+ is definitely possible.

I was checking Commonwelth games and one Indian kid won the Javelin gold beating African & Carriebean athletes. Searching further I can see same guy winning World Junior Title with a record (around 86-87 metres, which is world class). If that’s possible, why not in fast bowling - mechanics are similar.
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Are u saying this kid should start playing cricket or just an analogy?
 
My pet peeve: the "ever" questions.

A ship hit a monstrous storm never seen before. It was being tossed around. Everyone thought they will die except for one calm man who said the shop will not sink. They thought he was crazy. Then the storm passed, the ship and everyone in it survived and the man became a guru - showered with gifts and prayers. Someone asked him years later - how could he know the shop won't sink. His response, "i didn't know but if the ship had gone down, who would have known what I had predicted."

Implication "Yes, India will have a bowler in 2099 with the fastest delivery."

Prove me wrong.
 
I'm not sure what a player's nationality has got to do with it.
 
MMHS said:
161km is rare, may be we’ll never see that because the game is changing. But 155k+ is definitely possible.

I was checking Commonwelth games and one Indian kid won the Javelin gold beating African & Carriebean athletes. Searching further I can see same guy winning World Junior Title with a record (around 86-87 metres, which is world class). If that’s possible, why not in fast bowling - mechanics are similar.

Some of the posts here not only irritating, but ignorant as well. Going to same Commnwelth games, I am surprised with Indian boxers. I had interest in amateur boxing like 2 decades back when PAK was a power of boxing, at least in Asia - today, no PAK boxer made the QF, in fact SRL boxers have done much better; while from a small state of Haryana, which was a small part of Punjab, I think 7/8 boxers have made the medal podium including 3/4 gold.

System produces pro sportsman - only fools think that genetics does the job.
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Top post! Pakistan really needs to start investing in our sports infrastructure. Our performance for a 200 million strong nation that takes pride in our sporting heritage is beyond the pale. 5 medals in the CWG for us :(

Rightarmfast said:
Yes, Srinath at one point of time was bowling really quick, comparable to the fastest bowlers of all time. I thought Aaron did have it in him, but his career never shot up.
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Aaron reminded me of Dilhara Fernando for some reason. Same insane speed without control.
 
At the moment, only Indian bowler capable of 155+ in the next few years seems to be Nagarkoti, if he keeps himself fit.

That said, speed is not the only thing. Both Milne and Rabada might be bowling at a similar pace but theres a big difference in effectiveness and impact.
 
Lets just find an Indian bowler who can consistently bowl 90+mph and do so for 200 ODIs and 60 tests with 200+ wickets in both formats.
 
With so many bowlers to choose from, it’s strange they still have not gone one genuine express bowler. Not talking about bowlers who can bowl 150+ kph here and there, but a quick who can do that consistently for 7-8 years at the highest level.
 
Abhilash93 said:
At the moment, only Indian bowler capable of 155+ in the next few years seems to be Nagarkoti, if he keeps himself fit.

That said, speed is not the only thing. Both Milne and Rabada might be bowling at a similar pace but theres a big difference in effectiveness and impact.
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155+ ? You must be kidding. I've seen the skinny kid in U19 WC. He bowls 145. Rabada doesn't bowl 155+either.
 
rhony said:
155+ ? You must be kidding. I've seen the skinny kid in U19 WC. He bowls 145. Rabada doesn't bowl 155+either.
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Nagarkoti bowled upto 149ks. He is only 18. In next few years as his body becomes stronger and action becomes better he may well hit 155ks.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Nagarkoti bowled upto 149ks. He is only 18. In next few years as his body becomes stronger and action becomes better he may well hit 155ks.
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The question is why would he? It's madness to let one's body go through that for every delivery. Unless your aim is for a short career and the ambition is to just target the speed gun, there is no point. Look at Shaun Tait.
 
cricketjoshila said:
If same physique can help us win boxing and Wrestling medals why not fast bowling.
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Fast bowling isn't just about physique. There is nothing extraordinary about Lee, Shoaib, or even Starc's physique yet they have all clocked 160. In terms of physique the best that I've seen is Mitchell Johnson and while he was quick he never clocked 160 to my knowledge.

By the same token even guys like Lee and Shoaib only clocked 160 a handful of times. There's a lot of factors at play: rhythm, tailwind, speed gun calibration. I don't think Lee and Shoaib averaged 150 even for their first spell. They were unique in that they could hit 150 probably in every game they bowled, but they weren't superhumans averaging 150 in every spell. I would be very surprised if they were.
 
cricketjoshila said:
If same physique can help us win boxing and Wrestling medals why not fast bowling.
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Fast bowling isn't just about physique. There is nothing extraordinary about Lee, Shoaib, or even Starc's physique yet they have all clocked 160. In terms of physique the best that I've seen is Mitchell Johnson and while he was quick he never clocked 160 to my knowledge.

By the same token even guys like Lee and Shoaib only clocked 160 a handful of times. There's a lot of factors at play: rhythm, tailwind, speed gun calibration. I don't think Lee and Shoaib averaged 150 even for their first spell. They were unique in that they could hit 150 probably in every game they bowled, but they weren't superhumans averaging 150 in every spell. I would be very surprised if they were.
 
I don't think this will happen. India haven't had a bowler who consistently clocks 150 kmph yet, so 160+ is very far away.
 
I would be more than happy if we could get someone of the pace of 145-150k bowling well consistently.

If you look at all the ATGs none of them were not express pace 155k+ bowlers.

Most of the ATGs fall in the 135k - 145k category with effort balls around the 150k mark.

Unless I am mistaken, none of Steyn, Wasim, McGrath, Haddlee, IK, Marshall, Lillee, Donald were consistent 150k+ Bowlers. Only Waqar at his peak.

The others who were 150k+ are not considered ATG - Shoaib, Lee, Tait and Thommo.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Yes, if they invest in Punjab.
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They should invest in gujjar boys and maybe jatts. Here we have tall and fit gujjars. My cousin is fastest in our place. Remember shoaib akhtar wahab riaz and Mohammad amir are gujjar boys too maybe hasan Ali too.
 
Sidilicious said:
I would be more than happy if we could get someone of the pace of 145-150k bowling well consistently.

If you look at all the ATGs none of them were not express pace 155k+ bowlers.

Most of the ATGs fall in the 135k - 145k category with effort balls around the 150k mark.

Unless I am mistaken, none of Steyn, Wasim, McGrath, Haddlee, IK, Marshall, Lillee, Donald were consistent 150k+ Bowlers. Only Waqar at his peak.

The others who were 150k+ are not considered ATG - Shoaib, Lee, Tait and Thommo.
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More than agree.
 
I'm not even sure there will be any bowler to break the speed record, let alone an Indian bowler. Statistically, there haven't been too many bowlers to rival Akhtar and Lee in terms of pace as they were a class apart.
 
According to EdvSmith, Srinath recorded a blindingly fast delivery clocked at 156kph around 1996-97.
 
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