What's new

Will Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan look back at their BBL 15 participation as a huge mistake?

Will Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan look back at their BBL 15 participation as a huge mistake?

  • Mixed – Some lessons, but not worth the backlash

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    12

BouncerGuy

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Aug 29, 2023
Runs
41,504
As the dust settles on BBL 15, one question looms large for Pakistan cricket fans: Was it worth it for Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan to participate in this season’s Big Bash League? What was billed as a golden opportunity for Pakistan’s premier batting duo to showcase their class on Australian soil has instead turned into a narrative of missed chances, tactical misfires, and growing criticism.

Babar Azam, despite flashes of brilliance—including a composed 47 off 39 in a 141-run stand with Steve Smith—struggled to consistently impose himself in the high-octane T20 environment. His strike rate and inability to accelerate in key moments drew criticism, especially after a viral moment where he was visibly frustrated with Smith for denying a single during a crucial over. That incident, though minor in isolation, became symbolic of a broader narrative: Babar’s discomfort in adapting to the aggressive tempo of the BBL.

Mohammad Rizwan fared no better. His campaign was punctuated by a controversial retired out decision that sparked fierce debate among pundits and fans alike. Intended as a tactical move, it instead became a lightning rod for criticism, with many questioning his form and intent. His innings lacked fluency, and his strike rate remained among the lowest for top-order batters this season.

Both players, once seen as ambassadors of Pakistan’s T20 prowess, now find themselves at the center of a storm. From social media mockery to questions about their adaptability and value in overseas leagues, the fallout has been swift and unforgiving.

So, was BBL 15 a valuable learning curve or a reputational setback for Babar and Rizwan? Have they done more harm than good to their T20 credentials?

Let’s discuss.
 
Both have been humiliated and embarrassed in the tournament.

They should have some shame and self respect and try to improve their t20 game if they want to play in other leagues.

Rizwan doesn't have ability to play on Australian pitches and zimbabar has always been a selfish player.
 
Australia is generally a challenging venue for touring batters. Even many legendary batters struggled there.

I am guessing they will not play in BBL again.
 
Australia is generally a challenging venue for touring batters. Even many legendary batters struggled there.

I am guessing they will not play in BBL again.
Is this true for t20s though? I have seen many visiting batsmen do well in T20 on the true bouncy wickets.
 
Both have been embarrassed and humiliated a number of times over the years, it’s just that this BBL has brutally highlighted what a lot of us here say - these two have no space in limited overs cricket in the modern game.
 
Both have been embarrassed and humiliated a number of times over the years, it’s just that this BBL has brutally highlighted what a lot of us here say - these two have no space in limited overs cricket in the modern game.
You guy's deserved it, or hype karo Tullebaazo ko.
 
The issue is that they have been publicly embarrassed not just to do with their batting skills - and in this day and age, social media makes it sting harder.
 
As the dust settles on BBL 15, one question looms large for Pakistan cricket fans: Was it worth it for Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan to participate in this season’s Big Bash League? What was billed as a golden opportunity for Pakistan’s premier batting duo to showcase their class on Australian soil has instead turned into a narrative of missed chances, tactical misfires, and growing criticism.

Babar Azam, despite flashes of brilliance—including a composed 47 off 39 in a 141-run stand with Steve Smith—struggled to consistently impose himself in the high-octane T20 environment. His strike rate and inability to accelerate in key moments drew criticism, especially after a viral moment where he was visibly frustrated with Smith for denying a single during a crucial over. That incident, though minor in isolation, became symbolic of a broader narrative: Babar’s discomfort in adapting to the aggressive tempo of the BBL.

Mohammad Rizwan fared no better. His campaign was punctuated by a controversial retired out decision that sparked fierce debate among pundits and fans alike. Intended as a tactical move, it instead became a lightning rod for criticism, with many questioning his form and intent. His innings lacked fluency, and his strike rate remained among the lowest for top-order batters this season.

Both players, once seen as ambassadors of Pakistan’s T20 prowess, now find themselves at the center of a storm. From social media mockery to questions about their adaptability and value in overseas leagues, the fallout has been swift and unforgiving.

So, was BBL 15 a valuable learning curve or a reputational setback for Babar and Rizwan? Have they done more harm than good to their T20 credentials?

Let’s discuss.
Premier batsmen, ambassadors of Pakistan’s T20 prowess.

Seeing these words in this OP tells me so much is wrong with Pakistan cricket. No wonder they both got humiliated deservedly in BBL.
 
Premier batsmen, ambassadors of Pakistan’s T20 prowess.

Seeing these words in this OP tells me so much is wrong with Pakistan cricket. No wonder they both got humiliated deservedly in BBL.
Keep your hatred away and see their contributions... Shall I paste here the records of these guys????
 
From an Ind v Pak perspective, it would have been interesting to see how an Indian would go at this league. Would he encounter similar challenges? Ashwin signed up but didn't seem to play a game - anybody know why?
 
Their BBL performance was supposed to be their shining moment to prove to the world that they belong in T20 Cricket and to hang among the best. Sadly they looked like complete school kids in front of men.
 
From an Ind v Pak perspective, it would have been interesting to see how an Indian would go at this league. Would he encounter similar challenges? Ashwin signed up but didn't seem to play a game - anybody know why?
Ashwin was injured :kp
 
Keep your hatred away and see their contributions... Shall I paste here the records of these guys????
I think that's the point though. Aussies don't care for individual records or players playing for stats. They don't care what average a player have, all they care is players being self less and playing according to match situation and not just same way for their personal numbers.

They don't care if you are Babar or Smith or Kohli, if you don't play for the team you are pushed aside no matter how you are, how big of a star or what personal stats you have.

They don't even care how much you won in the past, they just care what you are doing in this match to help team win.
 
From an Ind v Pak perspective, it would have been interesting to see how an Indian would go at this league. Would he encounter similar challenges? Ashwin signed up but didn't seem to play a game - anybody know why?
Our bowlers have been decent.

Ashwin would have been just fine as would most of your international level bowlers.

In batting we are way behind your players so we can't make judgements based on Rizwan and Babar performance.
 
If anyone still had any doubts about why Aussies win so many world cups and what mentality leads to them, this BBL should have answered all of them.

And I am not just saying because it's funny because it's Pakistani players being affected.

No other country in the world does this, particularly even at league levels. Even IPl glorified individual stars over teams and keep talking about personal record. Teams like RCB favored Kohli over actually winning cups.

For an Aussie winning mentality is ingrained at every stage, from domestic to leagues. So every player who comes up has this non selfish winning mentality right from young age.

They feel they are part of a larger team who is there just to win. And any player who doesn't help that goal is sidelined no matter who they are.

And keep in mind, this works both ways. While this expects big stars to be not selfish, it also helps youngsters and other members of team be responsible. If a youngster feels he has same place as Steve Smith or Cummins and save value, he will also try to be as responsible as them instead of always relying on superstars to bail them out of choking when they get out.

Sub continental players - oh Kohli, sahin, Babar got our, now we will lose.

Aussie players - so one player got out but so many more are there and we are all the same.
 
Really poor work by the agent. He got them the BBL deals when Babar/Rizwan were freshly dropped by the Pakistan management. He could have easily got them deal in BPL and built the narrative “we need Babar and Rizwan in conditions similar to Sri Lanka”

I’m sure guys like @Major and @BouncerGuy would have pushed for this too.

Huge miscalculation! Huge overestimation of RizBar’s actual abilities and huge underestimation of the BBL standard by the agent!

You should watch Tanvir Ahmed’s vlogs when the deal was announced and how before the BBL he kept harping on about how highly the world rates Babar and Rizwan because of the direct signing and also first pick in platinum for Rizwan. He claimed the wickets in Australia suit Babar’s style of play etc.

Har lihaaz se flop ho gate Guru!
 
There are so many concepts that have also been exposed here…

When the RizBar custodians such as @BouncerGuy @Major @daytrader were questioned about why Babar and Rizwan play in this highly conservative style in T20s…there response would always be “they have to play like this because they are batting with really poor batters and the team would struggle to make 120 without them” blah blah blah

So what happened in BBL when they were surrounded by players who are not poor players apparently? Why are they continuing to bat in this crap approach?
 
If anyone still had any doubts about why Aussies win so many world cups and what mentality leads to them, this BBL should have answered all of them.

And I am not just saying because it's funny because it's Pakistani players being affected.

No other country in the world does this, particularly even at league levels. Even IPl glorified individual stars over teams and keep talking about personal record. Teams like RCB favored Kohli over actually winning cups.

For an Aussie winning mentality is ingrained at every stage, from domestic to leagues. So every player who comes up has this non selfish winning mentality right from young age.

They feel they are part of a larger team who is there just to win. And any player who doesn't help that goal is sidelined no matter who they are.

And keep in mind, this works both ways. While this expects big stars to be not selfish, it also helps youngsters and other members of team be responsible. If a youngster feels he has same place as Steve Smith or Cummins and save value, he will also try to be as responsible as them instead of always relying on superstars to bail them out of choking when they get out.

Sub continental players - oh Kohli, sahin, Babar got our, now we will lose.

Aussie players - so one player got out but so many more are there and we are all the same.
Australia see Cricket, a team sports, as team sports.

In sub continent people see Cricket with individuals in it.
 
Ponting the other day was like he’d still pick Babar for this crunch match because he’d come out to play with a chip on his shoulder; but little does he know, this guy just doesn’t care, he’s set in his ways, extremely timid and will do nothing to change what a cowardly batsman he is.

This BBL should be a big wake up call for Babar but it wont be, so in his demented universe this tournament was a mistake, because it exposed the weaknesses he refuses to work on. In Babar’s world he’s already the finished article as a batter & his delusional fans lap up his mediocre performances.

As for his Batting today, he faced something like 6 or 7 deliveries, and from ball one; terrible body language, no urgency at all, didn’t look to take it to the opposition remotely and stood well within his guarded shell.

After everything that has happened, having a modern great like Steven Smith’s mentorship to, he doesn’t look to me like he wants to get better, and if this doesn’t motivate him, nothing will.
 
Tanveer Ahmed will now request Donald Trump to abduct those YouTubers or analysts who criticse Babar Azam
 
AS PER REPORTS:
Babar Azam reportedly told his Sydney Sixers teammates that he felt “disrespected” by Steve Smith’s refusal to take a single during a BBL 15 match, leading to visible frustration and dressing room tension.
 
AS PER REPORTS:
Babar Azam reportedly told his Sydney Sixers teammates that he felt “disrespected” by Steve Smith’s refusal to take a single during a BBL 15 match, leading to visible frustration and dressing room tension.

It's important that he doesn't make a big deal out of this.

In a way, he is flying the flag for sub-continental cricket over there.
 
AS PER REPORTS:
Babar Azam reportedly told his Sydney Sixers teammates that he felt “disrespected” by Steve Smith’s refusal to take a single during a BBL 15 match, leading to visible frustration and dressing room tension.
He should stop talking and actually score some runs.
 
AS PER REPORTS:
Babar Azam reportedly told his Sydney Sixers teammates that he felt “disrespected” by Steve Smith’s refusal to take a single during a BBL 15 match, leading to visible frustration and dressing room tension.
Sam Curran denied Steve Smith an easy 2 against left arm spinner because he wanted to have the favourable match up

Don’t see Smith making a big fuss out of it do we?
 
AS PER REPORTS:
Babar Azam reportedly told his Sydney Sixers teammates that he felt “disrespected” by Steve Smith’s refusal to take a single during a BBL 15 match, leading to visible frustration and dressing room tension.
It was in the best interest of the team. Personal gains shall be kept aside and team shall be prioritized.
 
Ponting the other day was like he’d still pick Babar for this crunch match because he’d come out to play with a chip on his shoulder; but little does he know, this guy just doesn’t care, he’s set in his ways, extremely timid and will do nothing to change what a cowardly batsman he is.

This BBL should be a big wake up call for Babar but it wont be, so in his demented universe this tournament was a mistake, because it exposed the weaknesses he refuses to work on. In Babar’s world he’s already the finished article as a batter & his delusional fans lap up his mediocre performances.

As for his Batting today, he faced something like 6 or 7 deliveries, and from ball one; terrible body language, no urgency at all, didn’t look to take it to the opposition remotely and stood well within his guarded shell.

After everything that has happened, having a modern great like Steven Smith’s mentorship to, he doesn’t look to me like he wants to get better, and if this doesn’t motivate him, nothing will.
Ponting is judging him by his own standards. Little does he know what Babar actually is
 
AS PER REPORTS:
Babar Azam reportedly told his Sydney Sixers teammates that he felt “disrespected” by Steve Smith’s refusal to take a single during a BBL 15 match, leading to visible frustration and dressing room tension.
Lol man stop embarrassing yourself and your so called fans.
Why did you play with so much selfishness. Take a hard look in the mirror mr. Zimbabar.
 
They should now know bbL isnt just another t20 league wer u go and get some money and play and come back

Your performance is seriously dissected there and it doesn’t matter to them who are you
 
Both wanted to make their name in the game other than cricket, they initially thought BBL must be boxing league, but sadly for them it turned out to be cricket
 
@Rana to Babar and Rizwan: :yk :inti

images
 
Back
Top