Bewal Express
T20I Captain
- Joined
- Nov 6, 2005
- Runs
- 41,439
He said owned me on Time pass.He's gonna pull out his grade 2 maths or run away!
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He said owned me on Time pass.He's gonna pull out his grade 2 maths or run away!
I think the excitement of Babar just getting to 50 got to him like it does with Tanveer Ahmed. They lose composure when it happens and then they are not careful in celebration.
I can understand, the gaps in days/weeks when Babar is suffering is like Lava boiling within them, and they can’t control it when they erupt due to a small win for Babar. They just have to let it out as if Babar won the World Cup, Test Championship, Ashes, BGT all together in one night!
No. Babar was brought back so Babar will be the scapegoat.Babar has alot more fifties in a winning cause than losing. And if we do end up losing after his fifty, it'll be because the hitters you're backing today would've failed in their role.
No. Babar was brought back so Babar will be the scapegoat.
Not Hesson
Not Agha
Not Aqib.
This will happen. Wait and watch.
We arent winning anything with this team or with Babar or Riz. The Professional age has left behind a board run by idiots. Our FC system is played on poor wickets with low bounce, it doesn't differentiate between good and bad players. Once the system is sorted we can become competitive. Otherwise, go to each tournament and hope for the best.Farhan
Saim
Nawaz
Fakhar
Usman
Nafay
Something along those lines.
Don’t give 2 $hits if they end up 20-6
You are entitled to enjoy what gives you pleasure here. I’m just giving you the stark reality of what has happened here.It's possible. That's the problem with Pakistan cricket. Our fans are happy to look for scapegoats rather than improving the system. In a team game, no single player should ever be the scapegoat
@topspin
I am waiting for an answer on why PK players lack " mental fortitude", its not a genetic thing, its much more of environmental thing. Also are you saying that an Australians are innately more talented than PK players. If not, then why the different outcomes. Come on son meet the elephant in the room. Dont worry, you have been taught a lesson, but I have been teaching for decades and you are welcome.
IK was one of the most involved if not the most involved with Pakistan cricket during his reign as PM and Patron-in-Chief of PCB. A notable example of this when he advocated for replacing the traditional departmental and institutional teams with a regional system just like in Sheffield Shield i.e. "Aussie system" that you keep referring to.
He appointed Misbah to take over from Mickey Arthur as both Head Coach and Chief Selector despite having no qualifications and relevant experience for the role.
IK himself revealed in an interview that he asked PCB Chairman to make Babar captain:
This is why big IK/PTI supporters like yourself, Gazza, daytrader, Mobashir (to name a few) blindly follow and support Babar because he was IK's appointment.
Turned out to be a horror appointment because Babar was shockingly bad as captain. Will you be man enough to admit IK got this badly wrong?
I am not sure why that's our problem. Its a franchise. For PK Naqvi can drop him. So why hasnt he?Apparently Babar has a strike-rate of 110 in the competition so far..
This kind of strike-rate wouldn't even have been acceptable in the early days of T20 cricket, let alone now.
Not sure if I understand the point of your post, but it's an embarrassing display of batting for a player who was signed with alot of fanfare and buzz. I'm sure the franchise is getting buyer's remorse, or will by the end of the season. Also not sure what Naqvi has to do with any of this. Last I checked, he wasn't the chief-selector..I am not sure why that's our problem. Its a franchise. For PK Naqvi can drop him. So why hasnt he?
He hasnt played well for a while and looks anxious. As I said I have no problem with him being dropped but why has Naqvi brought him back. I am a fan but he looks short of confidence and runs. My point was that fans like him and he is the biggest brand in PK cricket.Not sure if I understand the point of your post, but it's an embarrassing display of batting for a player who was signed with alot of fanfare and buzz. I'm sure the franchise is getting buyer's remorse, or will by the end of the season. Also not sure what Naqvi has to do with any of this. Last I checked, he wasn't the chief-selector..
And?IK's words when he asked PCB Chairman to make Babar captain:
I only watched him play twice and immediately asked the head of the cricket board, you must make him the captain because he is genuinely world-class
OkBabar's downfall began as soon as he was appointed as captain under Misbah's reign as Head Coach. IK was behind both decisions, so yeah he was the culprit.
@topspin
Where are you. I am waiting. Oh dear another one bites the dust. Surely you need to do your HW before you take me on.
Okay so you now admit IK was behind Babar's captaincy. Good start.
Just one more thing to clear up before I own you on TP.
Would it be fair to say Babar failed as captain?
Well, I never said that you picked him, nor did I "make it out as if Babar was picked by the fans." You are the one who voluntarily rushed to defend him for reasons I still don't understand.Ok. But who is picking him. Its not me. You are making out as if Babar is being picked by his fans.
No. Babar did OK. He got us to a final in the T20 WC, the 1st since 2009, got us into a SF and finished 5th in the WC same as Sarfi. His terrible result was the England series. He won the series in SL. Overall OKI am the one waiting and you're the one trying to dodge my question:
The thread was about Babar and this was what I saidWell, I never said that you picked him, nor did I "make it out as if Babar was picked by the fans." You are the one who voluntarily rushed to defend him for reasons I still don't understand.
Last I checked, this thread was about Babar's performance in the BBL, which I was pointing out has been quite embarrassing so far, especially given the fanfare around his signing... and even the quality of bowling in the league.
Nobody asked you to be an apologist for mediocrity, you chose to do that all by yourself.
I've been struggling to fully comprehend alot of your posts but this one^ surely takes the cake.The thread was about Babar and this was what I said
"Or people genuinely like him and want him to do well. Were the fans in PK stadiums that loved him this year also AI created bots"
Then thess losers thought they could get one over me. And you know me. If I let these useless cretins get one over me then I am finished.
No. Babar did OK. He got us to a final in the T20 WC, the 1st since 2009, got us into a SF and finished 5th in the WC same as Sarfi. His terrible result was the England series. He won the series in SL. Overall OK
So over to you son. You have run like Mo Farah. The system.
Can you reply on the system in the PK FC thread. I look forward to itFirstly, Sarfi won a white ball ICC tournament, so you can't compare Babar to him. Also, Pakistan's 2019 WC > 2023 WC. In the 2019 WC, Pakistan were the bookies hot favourites to beat Sri Lanka, which would have been sufficient to secure a place in the SF. Unfortunately, this game was a wash out, so the points were shared. This makes the comparison disingenuous.
If Babar's captaincy was "OK" then why are his leadership skills non-existent? During his time at Peshawar Zalmi, he had to consult every on‑field decision with Sammy because he could not be trusted to make them alone.
Babar has never even won a PSL as captain and couldn't even win an Asia Cup, when his side faced Sri Lanka in 2022. You know his captaincy for both Pakistan and in the PSL has been an outright failure. But you refuse to admit it because he was IK's appointment.
Go back to the point i made at the start and you will see it was a reply to someone. You need to read the context of what I said. Then you had @topspin thinking he could get one over me as I have humiliated him over the years in Timepass. And look at him run over his systems commentsI've been struggling to fully comprehend alot of your posts but this one^ surely takes the cake.
Very incoherent and difficult to understand.
I agree with you the cricket system is poor.We arent winning anything with this team or with Babar or Riz. The Professional age has left behind a board run by idiots. Our FC system is played on poor wickets with low bounce, it doesn't differentiate between good and bad players. Once the system is sorted we can become competitive. Otherwise, go to each tournament and hope for the best.
Its the system stupid
We will never have players playing the right way if we keep this mindset.We are not Australia that we have 6/7 players who can score 50+ at 150 strike rate. Babar's strike rate is still too low - 125 needs to be closer to 135 but for our limitations we need someone who can hold his wicket and bat for 10 overs, even at 135ish otherwise we won't even be getting to 140 let alone 160-180.
That’s Formula 1 pace for Babar., even at 135ish
It has been an exhilarating time for cricket fans, especially with Babar's outstanding performances. He has scored two remarkable fifties, which played a crucial role in securing two wins for Sydney. Although cricket is a team sport with 11 players, it's clear that Sydney owes a great deal of their success to Babar's match-winning abilities.
On another note, Sahibzada is currently receiving mentoring from Ahmed Shehzad. With such valuable guidance, I'm quite confident that Sahibzada will shine brightly in the BPL one day.
He is a serious crowd puller. There are not many such cricketers if any in the modern game.Hard for some people to accept this fact but Big Bobbie B Babar Azam the Bobsy King of Hearts is a legend of modern day cricket
He is a serious crowd puller. There are not many such cricketers if any in the modern game.
I've been struggling to fully comprehend alot of your posts but this one^ surely takes the cake.
Very incoherent and difficult to understand.