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[VIDEOS] Sydney Sixers land Babar Azam for the entire BBL|15 season as a pre-draft signing

Suleiman said:
People hate Umar Akmal here with a burning passion, and to a large extent, understandably so.

But he did far more despite his goofy self sabotaging antics in the t20 format than Babar Azam ever has despite being called king, emperor, Quaid, etc

Umar didn’t go too far himself, but he has as many if not more memorable t20 innings.
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Umar akmal 60 odd in semifinal 2010> babar whole t20 career....
 
Suleiman said:
People hate Umar Akmal here with a burning passion, and to a large extent, understandably so.

But he did far more despite his goofy self sabotaging antics in the t20 format than Babar Azam ever has despite being called king, emperor, Quaid, etc

Umar didn’t go too far himself, but he has as many if not more memorable t20 innings.
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Semifinal 2010 in icc t20
2014 vs Aus in icc t20
2012 vs SA in icc t20
He was only crap in 2016 t20 wc
 
Having read the cricinfo commentary, he kept trying to hit Curran but kept playing and missing. So, whilst the intent is there, he’s now losing the one thing that made him stand out I.e. boundaries in the Powerplay.

I hope the board can take a pragmatic decision here rather than persisting with Babar for one more t20 World Cup. Because this is not helping him either.

He can still offer something in ODIs and tests, but he looks even a shell of his own best self.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Having read the cricinfo commentary, he kept trying to hit Curran but kept playing and missing. So, whilst the intent is there, he’s now losing the one thing that made him stand out I.e. boundaries in the Powerplay.

I hope the board can take a pragmatic decision here rather than persisting with Babar for one more t20 World Cup. Because this is not helping him either.

He can still offer something in ODIs and tests, but he looks even a shell of his own best self.
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It’s not difficult to find footage - it’s on the bbl insta!

He got beaten trying to square cut, got beaten trying to dab to 3rd man, got beaten defending.

Hes a sorry excuse for a batsman now

Someone batting this pathetic can offer nothing in ODIs and tests either.

All our armchair philosophers are very quick to point out young player X,Y,Z is “not ready and he must play rayd baaal cricket”. The one who needs it most is babar. Go back to domestic and sort your life out.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Having read the cricinfo commentary, he kept trying to hit Curran but kept playing and missing. So, whilst the intent is there, he’s now losing the one thing that made him stand out I.e. boundaries in the Powerplay.
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He was not trying to hit but rather get bat on ball. Which he was unable to as Curran was bowling outswingers. He poked multiple times before edging one to the slip fielder.
 
Rana said:
@topspin I’m pretty sure he would have handled McGrath, Gillespie and Lee
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For the blind loyalists, he would bounce back. But anyone watching with a neutral perspective could see this coming.

No footwork, poor hand to eye coordination, and a visible lack of confidence or intent. Even a competent U19 bat would have done better in the BBL. Yet somehow he is being pushed for a T20 World Cup squad. It really makes you wonder why some people are incapable of seeing the handicap this would create for Pakistan in the next World Cup. I wanna see some loyalists to make some sense here!
 
CricVet said:
For the blind loyalists, he would bounce back. But anyone watching with a neutral perspective could see this coming.

No footwork, poor hand to eye coordination, and a visible lack of confidence or intent. Even a competent U19 bat would have done better in the BBL. Yet somehow he is being pushed for a T20 World Cup squad. It really makes you wonder why some people are incapable of seeing the handicap this would create for Pakistan in the next World Cup. I wanna see some loyalists to make some sense here!
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Forget talking sense

There are legends here who claim Babar would handle McGrath, Lee and Gillespie in Australian conditions
 
Rana said:
Wow! He was looking to hit Curran for a six every ball! The intent is there!!
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I’m sure it’s difficult for you to have any objectivity, given how you derail every thread on here with your agenda driven white noise.

My hope has always been for the success of Pakistan cricket, no matter who’s in the team (Babar or not).

I made a statement based on what I read on cricinfo. He’s clearly in a bad way and shouldn’t be in the team.

So please do me a favour and don’t respond to my posts, as I’d rather not waste my remaining life interacting with/ you. Thanks
 
TheSultan said:
It’s not difficult to find footage - it’s on the bbl insta!

He got beaten trying to square cut, got beaten trying to dab to 3rd man, got beaten defending.

Hes a sorry excuse for a batsman now

Someone batting this pathetic can offer nothing in ODIs and tests either.

All our armchair philosophers are very quick to point out young player X,Y,Z is “not ready and he must play rayd baaal cricket”. The one who needs it most is babar. Go back to domestic and sort your life out.
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Have seen the footage now and I agree on the shots he attempted.

I also agree that he needs to just go away and fully sort out his game. I’d hoped that the BBL would reignite a spark or maybe even show some power hitting development but alas.

Ultimately it all comes from a place of need. Pakistan needs consistent gun batsmen in its lineup ASAP. Objectively, Babar hasn’t been that for a while and these performances just underline that.

He needs to go away and work in the domestic scene, for an extended period , as you’ve suggested.

As regards tests, he can still go away and sort out his technique to be a factor in tests. That will then have a positive knock on effect on his ODI form. However, the team need to move on from Babar the t20 batsmen. I think he’ll still go with the WC squad, but it’s a good chance to ease him out of the line up by not selecting him in the playing XI.

He’s still young enough such that his bat speed and reaction times wouldn’t have slowed, but he’s in his own head. And that type of malaise cannot be fixed in the glare of international cricket, especially in the hustle and bustle of a t20 World Cup.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
I’m sure it’s difficult for you to have any objectivity, given how you derail every thread on here with your agenda driven white noise.

My hope has always been for the success of Pakistan cricket, no matter who’s in the team (Babar or not).

I made a statement based on what I read on cricinfo. He’s clearly in a bad way and shouldn’t be in the team.

So please do me a favour and don’t respond to my posts, as I’d rather not waste my remaining life interacting with/ you. Thanks
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I know Babar isn't doing well but you don't need to take it out on other posters.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Having read the cricinfo commentary, he kept trying to hit Curran but kept playing and missing. So, whilst the intent is there, he’s now losing the one thing that made him stand out I.e. boundaries in the Powerplay.

I hope the board can take a pragmatic decision here rather than persisting with Babar for one more t20 World Cup. Because this is not helping him either.

He can still offer something in ODIs and tests, but he looks even a shell of his own best self.
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What did he ever achieve in TESTS?
In ODIs he is the king of JAMODIs.
 
Katwalindian said:
Semifinal 2010 in icc t20
2014 vs Aus in icc t20
2012 vs SA in icc t20
He was only crap in 2016 t20 wc
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that 2014 innings vs Aus is something Babar can only dream of.

In this day and age being an “anchor” is worth jack. You can be as stylish as you’d like, as technical as you’d like, but if you can’t switch gears in t20s and to a lesser extent ODIs, then your place as an all format player needs to be questioned.

Root is someone you can say is similar in style to Babar but he has significant and aggressive knocks in t20s that Babar simply cannot replicate. One look at his six record says it all.

I know some may twist this into me saying if you’re not a hack who can’t swing for the fences then don’t play t20s, but it’s about progressing the innings forward regardless of style.
 
topspin said:
I know Babar isn't doing well but you don't need to take it out on other posters.
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Not a fanboy of any player incl. Babar.

I’m also not a parasite who ruins threads by fixating on him/Rizwan.

Never too late to change, so you don’t need to take it out on me.
 
pakistani pride said:
What did he ever achieve in TESTS?
In ODIs he is the king of JAMODIs.
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If we have better options than Babar in tests, (and given his current troubles we probably do) than fair enough.

I do think his game is best suited to ODIs, but if he keeps feeling outside his off stump and continues to struggle vs left arm spin, it would be difficult to choose him in ODIs too.

Ideally He needs a full on reset outside the glare of scrutiny, if he wants to address his issues.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Not a fanboy of any player incl. Babar.

I’m also not a parasite who ruins threads by fixating on him/Rizwan.

Never too late to change, so you don’t need to take it out on me.
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Well, this thread is about Babar

How can I derail the thread when it’s about him?

Also for other threads, everything does tie around Babar and Rizwan as long as they are active and available T20 options

The moment those two go, and I mean go for good…not like the Amir and Imad type gone, you will see peace.

As long as they are hovering around, I will continue to swat them away.
 
Rana said:
Wow! He was looking to hit Curran for a six every ball! The intent is there!!
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Bro, his post wasn’t in support of Babar. He was just pointing out a fact. In fact, he’s advocating for dropping Babar from the team!

Going off on him was uncalled for I think :)
 
Snowflake said:
Bro, his post wasn’t in support of Babar. He was just pointing out a fact. In fact, he’s advocating for dropping Babar from the team!

Going off on him was uncalled for I think :)
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Well he admitted later on that he didn’t watch the innings and was reading off cricinfo

What I’ve established is this,

The guy sat out months from the national team and witnessed players emerge and show that Pakistan can play cricket to modern requirements, and Pakistan will achieve the same if not better without him. He knew he had to improve with his current approach.

He was forced back (without performance) and soon realised that he is as $hit as he was before and he cannot even try to match modern standards the way he got out against SA in the first T20. He then went back into that tuk tuk mindset and produced a couple of ok knocks on flat decks against below par bowlers, his Zimbabwe 50 was there for everyone to see. That’s not Babar out of form or anything, that’s just Babar doing what he does but with a more curtailed period of powerplay batting.

He’s gone to Australia and tried the same thing he tried in the SA game 1 and failed horrendously in the 11 over match, and then went back into his shell to get through the new ball instead of doing what you are supposed to do in the powerplay and give it a whack.

Quite honestly, this guy is once again back into the mindset of playing for himself. His team are working out what to do with him basically not giving them anything whether he stays or doesn’t stay at the crease.

Good chance Sixers will finish last this season.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Not a fanboy of any player incl. Babar.

I’m also not a parasite who ruins threads by fixating on him/Rizwan.

Never too late to change, so you don’t need to take it out on me.
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You're not making any sense. This is a Babar Azam thread, so ofc everyone posting here will be "fixated" on him, so I'm not sure why are you bringing your hissy fits here.
 
It was always going to be difficult for him to have great success in the BBL with high quality bowling with bigger boundaries in a format that doesn't suit his game. Only one good score for him so far in four innings.
 
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KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Have seen the footage now and I agree on the shots he attempted.

I also agree that he needs to just go away and fully sort out his game. I’d hoped that the BBL would reignite a spark or maybe even show some power hitting development but alas.

Ultimately it all comes from a place of need. Pakistan needs consistent gun batsmen in its lineup ASAP. Objectively, Babar hasn’t been that for a while and these performances just underline that.

He needs to go away and work in the domestic scene, for an extended period , as you’ve suggested.

As regards tests, he can still go away and sort out his technique to be a factor in tests. That will then have a positive knock on effect on his ODI form. However, the team need to move on from Babar the t20 batsmen. I think he’ll still go with the WC squad, but it’s a good chance to ease him out of the line up by not selecting him in the playing XI.

He’s still young enough such that his bat speed and reaction times wouldn’t have slowed, but he’s in his own head. And that type of malaise cannot be fixed in the glare of international cricket, especially in the hustle and bustle of a t20 World Cup.
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Fair play to reassess after watching the footage.

We’re not even discussing tests here, but since you bring it up, the guy’s mind is so scrambled and technique so regressed he won’t even succeed there anymore. He is as finished a batsman as I’ve ever seen.

it’s glaringly obvious that he needs to forget all this bakwas with his social media nonsense and just work on his cricket - that’s all.

The sad reality is he’s actually really stubborn and devoid of any logic, he will just work on forcing his way back in to the team through politics and social media pressure.
 
Kianig89 said:
Yes he is not that any typical pakistan player
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If you meant to say Babar will bowl well to McGrath, Lee and Gillespie….well that’s debatable. McGrath has a test 50, Binga could actually bat and was a good number 8, and Gillespie has a Test double hundred.

If you are saying Babar will succeed against these 3 bowlers as a batter, then please forward your dealers number. Heavy stuff 🍃
 
TheSultan said:
Fair play to reassess after watching the footage.

We’re not even discussing tests here, but since you bring it up, the guy’s mind is so scrambled and technique so regressed he won’t even succeed there anymore. He is as finished a batsman as I’ve ever seen.

it’s glaringly obvious that he needs to forget all this bakwas with his social media nonsense and just work on his cricket - that’s all.

The sad reality is he’s actually really stubborn and devoid of any logic, he will just work on forcing his way back in to the team through politics and social media pressure.
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Mind scrambled is exactly what I thought when watching it.

Had it been the PSL or Pak team a few years ago he would have shouldered arms, seen out the over, eaten up the balls and it wouldn't have been noticed too much.

However he has a target on his back in the BBL as an overseas pro, he has to perform, plus even within Pakistan there is growing noise at his inability to play this format. His natural game won't work in Aus, and he isn't a Chris Gayle type player than can soak up balls but is confident he can smoke sixes at the end. So ultimately he has to just throw the bat around in an ungainly fashion.

He doesn't know his own game at the moment and when a player doesn't know what to do or who they are they become one dimensional.
 
Suleiman said:
that 2014 innings vs Aus is something Babar can only dream of.

In this day and age being an “anchor” is worth jack. You can be as stylish as you’d like, as technical as you’d like, but if you can’t switch gears in t20s and to a lesser extent ODIs, then your place as an all format player needs to be questioned.

Root is someone you can say is similar in style to Babar but he has significant and aggressive knocks in t20s that Babar simply cannot replicate. One look at his six record says it all.

I know some may twist this into me saying if you’re not a hack who can’t swing for the fences then don’t play t20s, but it’s about progressing the innings forward regardless of style.
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Babar even suck the soul out of viewers in t20 cricket....
 
Babar in T20s now is a jackdaw in peacock's feathers - his past glory has been wrapped around his ugly presence and slowly and surely coming off.

It is become redundant now for many of us (and getting tired of it) to post the same crap - he overestimated himself when he opened in T20s. I have been saying ON RECORD since he STARTED to open that he MUST NEVER open in T20s. He screwed himself under the burden of expectations. Now, he is just a "Dhobi ka cut-ta" unfortunately 😑
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Have seen the footage now and I agree on the shots he attempted.

I also agree that he needs to just go away and fully sort out his game. I’d hoped that the BBL would reignite a spark or maybe even show some power hitting development but alas.

Ultimately it all comes from a place of need. Pakistan needs consistent gun batsmen in its lineup ASAP. Objectively, Babar hasn’t been that for a while and these performances just underline that.

He needs to go away and work in the domestic scene, for an extended period , as you’ve suggested.

As regards tests, he can still go away and sort out his technique to be a factor in tests. That will then have a positive knock on effect on his ODI form. However, the team need to move on from Babar the t20 batsmen. I think he’ll still go with the WC squad, but it’s a good chance to ease him out of the line up by not selecting him in the playing XI.

He’s still young enough such that his bat speed and reaction times wouldn’t have slowed, but he’s in his own head. And that type of malaise cannot be fixed in the glare of international cricket, especially in the hustle and bustle of a t20 World Cup.
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A player that was never a good t20 player can never be a good t20 player now even after countless chances and after going away. With Babar and co. every worldcup has become one last chance and they have been constantly failing. He never deserved to be back in the squad and it was poor, hasty decision making by selectors.
 
Babar is now reminding me of yKs 2015 wc fiasco, where everyone knew Younus doesn’t deserve a spot and his reflexes were also gone but still he bullied his way into the squad and even opened against India if memory serves me right.
 
hassan918 said:
It was always going to be difficult for him to have great success in the BBL with high quality bowling with bigger boundaries in a format that doesn't suit his game. Only one good score for him so far in four innings.
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“High quality” bowling when all the aussies are playing Ashes. I shudder to think how he will perform against actual international bowlers in t20 worldcup. Lmao.
 
hur rizvi said:
Babar is now reminding me of yKs 2015 wc fiasco, where everyone knew Younus doesn’t deserve a spot and his reflexes were also gone but still he bullied his way into the squad and even opened against India if memory serves me right.
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And we all saw how that panned out. Got bounced out by Shami while trying duck and sway away - embarrassing
 
hassan918 said:
It was always going to be difficult for him to have great success in the BBL with high quality bowling with bigger boundaries in a format that doesn't suit his game. Only one good score for him so far in four innings.
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This is factually incorrect. As mentioned by Slim, the "higher quality bowling" are currently occupied in The Ashes series.

I get that you like Babar but let's stop going out of way to make excuses for him.
 
Kianig89 said:
Yes he is not that any typical pakistan player
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If this is the best you can come up then I doubt that you have any conviction in what you're saying.

I'm sure you remember the 2022 WT20 was held in Australia. Despite having multiple opportunities to score freely against weaker sides like the Netherlands, Zimbabwe, and Bangladesh, Babar still finished with a strike rate below a run a ball.

Babar is now playing in an Australian T20 league against domestic bowlers and to say that he is struggling would be an understatement.

So in what world would Babar stand a chance against Lee, McGrath, Gillespie and etc if he can't even deliver in Australia against far lesser bowlers?

I’ve also seen your posts on Timepass, and you’re very open about your support for Imran Khan. It’s no secret that Babar received strong backing from him, which included his promotion to his first stint as captain. If your defence of Babar is rooted in your political loyalties, just be upfront about that bias. f however it is solely for cricketing reasons, you’re only undermining your own credibility.
 
topspin said:
If this is the best you can come up then I doubt that you have any conviction in what you're saying.

I'm sure you remember the 2022 WT20 was held in Australia. Despite having multiple opportunities to score freely against weaker sides like the Netherlands, Zimbabwe, and Bangladesh, Babar still finished with a strike rate below a run a ball.

Babar is now playing in an Australian T20 league against domestic bowlers and to say that he is struggling would be an understatement.

So in what world would Babar stand a chance against Lee, McGrath, Gillespie and etc if he can't even deliver in Australia against far lesser bowlers?

I’ve also seen your posts on Timepass, and you’re very open about your support for Imran Khan. It’s no secret that Babar received strong backing from him, which included his promotion to his first stint as captain. If your defence of Babar is rooted in your political loyalties, just be upfront about that bias. f however it is solely for cricketing reasons, you’re only undermining your own credibility.
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I rate you for talking cordially and respectfully with this guy. I can’t stand him or that caved bloke. Raja Ishtiaq and Heddie I can tell are a bunch of kids who probably work at their dad’s mobile phone repair shops which sell paan so I don’t really take them seriously. Gazza we know is apna crime master gogo Shakti Kapoor. Then we have the legend Mobashir with his display picture of Khan Sab sitting in a marriage registration office!


This Kiani bloke, check his posts from 2-3 years ago. His turn is also questionable. I made this point earlier about another guy. They were openly criticising Babar 2-3 years ago, and Babar only regressed as a player+politician since….how then does it make sense for them to suddenly start praising him as the best this and that?
 
Rana said:
I rate you for talking cordially and respectfully with this guy. I can’t stand him or that caved bloke.
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I don't blame you bro. As you know me, I always give these guys a sincere chance to redeem themselves and be the "bigger man" and admit they got it wrong. None of us are perfect and it's very easy to make mistakes regarding our projections on how a player will fare in the future. For example, I expected much more from Shaheen as a bowler, particularly in test cricket.

But there is no excuse to misrepresent players based on current form/past performances.

I don't think anyone can stand caved either. If Markhor, one of the calmest and most rational long standing voices here is telling you that you don't have the temperament to be on a Forum, then about time you get the hint. I found his agenda against Ian Bishop, who's been nothing but a genuine well wisher of Pakistan cricket, to be quite frankly appalling. When I read his posts, it reads like brand endorsements rather than an actual fan opinion. When I said he was bottom tier, I was being generous, he's in the relegation battle for rock bottom!

Rana said:
Raja Ishtiaq and Heddie I can tell are a bunch of kids who probably work at their dad’s mobile phone repair shops which sell paan so I don’t really take them seriously.
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This has left me creasing :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: . We've all seem them ones in Southall. Either that or those dodgy desi travel agents in Slough.

Rana said:
Gazza we know is apna crime master gogo Shakti Kapoor.
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Don't forget the kebab roll. His PP legacy will be defined as a Naan kebab poster.

Rana said:
Then we have the legend Mobashir with his display picture of Khan Sab sitting in a marriage registration office!
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Weird flex! But sounds like a French Pakistani thing to do.

Rana said:
This Kiani bloke, check his posts from 2-3 years ago. His turn is also questionable. I made this point earlier about another guy. They were openly criticising Babar 2-3 years ago, and Babar only regressed as a player+politician since….how then does it make sense for them to suddenly start praising him as the best this and that?
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I will have a look. Sounds like a Mamoon-esque U-turn.
 
THREAD IS NOT ABOUT BJP PTI ETC


TAKE YOUR OBSESSION OF SUCH POLITICAL STUFF AND LEAVE THE THREAD.
 
Kianig89 said:
but regarding the debate , Babar against the Australian quartet he would not be a complete bunny as many of you think, yes some hiccups would be there specially early on, but over a period of time his stats would have been respectable.
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Babar is a serial repeater of his mistakes. How will he rectify his mistakes against a pace quartet/trio of McGrath, Lee, Gillespie etc? On their decks?

He repeated his mistakes against Hardik Pandya when Tom Curran bowled to him. So how will he suddenly get out of the mental stranglehold a guy like McGrath will put him under?
 
Rana said:
Babar is a serial repeater of his mistakes. How will he rectify his mistakes against a pace quartet/trio of McGrath, Lee, Gillespie etc? On their decks?

He repeated his mistakes against Hardik Pandya when Tom Curran bowled to him. So how will he suddenly get out of the mental stranglehold a guy like McGrath will put him under?
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So Babars career is being judged by last 20/30 matches , he still is one of Pakistans top batsman and regarding the Australian quartet that's ODIs and Test cricket mainly.
 
Kianig89 said:
So Babars career is being judged by last 20/30 matches , he still is one of Pakistans top batsman and regarding the Australian quartet that's ODIs and Test cricket mainly.
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Babar is the architect of his own demise. His career is being judged by his own choices.

He chose to give preference to his agency

He chose to allow Rizwan to manipulate him

He chose to open in T20s as captain when he knew that he had no business here

He chose his friends over deserved players as captain during his tenure spanning 4 years

He chose the type of wickets he wanted made at home to boost his stats

He chose to backstab Shaheen Afridi when he was rightly removed as captain.

He chose to avoid genuine domestic red ball graft and instead opted for PR pressure to return back into the fold.

He chose to neglect his declining fitness issues.

He chose to open for Sydney Sixers knowing full well Pakistan doesn’t want him to open.


Babar is paying the price for his own choices. These choices were made over a period of 5 years. Not 20-30 games
 
Rana said:
Babar is the architect of his own demise. His career is being judged by his own choices.

He chose to give preference to his agency

He chose to allow Rizwan to manipulate him

He chose to open in T20s as captain when he knew that he had no business here

He chose his friends over deserved players as captain during his tenure spanning 4 years

He chose the type of wickets he wanted made at home to boost his stats

He chose to backstab Shaheen Afridi when he was rightly removed as captain.

He chose to avoid genuine domestic red ball graft and instead opted for PR pressure to return back into the fold.

He chose to neglect his declining fitness issues.

He chose to open for Sydney Sixers knowing full well Pakistan doesn’t want him to open.


Babar is paying the price for his own choices. These choices were made over a period of 5 years. Not 20-30 games
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Most of things you mentioned, are off field stuff , gossips and may be personal jealousy
 
Rana said:
Which ones are gossip? Point them out?
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The Board made him captain again, the same board which dropped him from team.

He chose to open for Sixers yes maybe at gunpoint he bend them to this, this is professional cricket not the mohalla league where decision can be made by one person.

He picked his friends, Shadab still gets picked without any notable performance, another of your bogus claim busted , more to blame PCB than Babar.

He chose agency , so PCB remained dumbfounded and let Babar pull the strings , why was not there any review or action on this like it happens in other boards , another of your mythical scripts.

He allowed Rizwan to manipulate, ain't Rizwan was the vc that time so automatically he will have say second after Babar
 
Kianig89 said:
The Board made him captain again, the same board which dropped him from team.
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Right, so Babar happily took it back knowing how this is going to completely destroy the World Cup campaign? Babar is naive and stupid like his fans?
 
Kianig89 said:
He chose to open for Sixers yes maybe at gunpoint he bend them to this, this is professional cricket not the mohalla league where decision can be made by one person
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No, but again you are exposing your low Iq and understanding of how things function. what is the tactical, strategic reason why Babar is opening for them though? I’m sure there will be details coming out of his contract with the Sixers once they have to try and save face in front of their fan for their stupid decision. Wouldn’t the Sixers happily take Babar to bat at 3 or 4 if he tells them that’s where he needs to prepare for the World Cup? Wouldn’t they happily get Phillipe to open with Hughes and later Smith??
 
Kianig89 said:
He picked his friends, Shadab still gets picked without any notable performance, another of your bogus claim busted , more to blame PCB than Babar.
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Lol, Shadab is his only friend? WTH was Hassan Ali doing in the 2023wc? WTH was Rizwan doing who is his best friend? Clear manipulation of misusing power to promote friends! The same friend who is the manipulative one got his mates Iftikhar and Khushdil involved. Both were manipulating the system! Your own warlords Misbah and Hafeez resigned from the PcB advisory committee at World Cup selection because they suspected Babar wasn’t listening to them! Shoaib Malik pointed out the friends culture having seen it first hand!

Don’t even try to b.s that Babar wasn’t a friends captain but was a national team first captain!
 
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Rana said:
Lol, Shadab is his only friend? WTH was Hassan Ali doing in the 2023wc? WTH was Rizwan doing who is his best friend? Clear manipulation of misusing power to promote friends! The same friend who is the manipulative one got his mates Iftikhar and Khushdil involved. Both c*nts were manipulating the system! Your own warlords Misbah and Hafeez resigned from the PcB advisory committee at World Cup selection because they suspected Babar wasn’t listening to them! Shoaib Malik pointed out the friends culture having seen it first hand!

Don’t even try to b.s that Babar wasn’t a friends captain but was a national team first captain!
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More of your propaganda than anything concrete.
 
Kianig89 said:
He chose agency , so PCB remained dumbfounded and let Babar pull the strings , why was not there any review or action on this like it happens in other boards , another of your mythical scripts
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Well, yes! This is true! The PCB under Sethi did investigate the accusation of “conflict of interest” in selection, which lead to the resignation of Inzimam ul Haq. There is a whole thread on this 🤡 I can bump it for you. It’s a bit more detailed so I can’t really be bothered to go into its detail. But the fact that there were players refusing to sign central contracts on the eve of the 2023 World Cup is clear proof of how much issues that the PcB were having with this agency and have now gone on to do everything they can to stamp out the influence of that agency! You can try all you want to ignore this or brush it under the carpet, I will not allow this to be forgotten because it’s my cricket team that was being exploited for financial gain instead of merit!
 
Kianig89 said:
He allowed Rizwan to manipulate, ain't Rizwan was the vc that time so automatically he will have say second after Babar
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So without me going into the detail, you admit that he allowed someone like Rizwan to manipulate him? So my initial claim was correct?!?
 
Rana said:
@topspin bro read this. Babar Azam’s chief advisor is his dad :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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After watching him bat for his whole career. I personally think his reflexes have gotten slower. It has been few years since that has happened. It shouldn't happen as he is young and is unusual. But that's my assessment.

Maybe we'll find that out years later when he retires.
 
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@topspin another fifty for Babar and this time he tops the chart for impact runs. This is another example that proves your statement about strike rate being the most important factor for impact as being wrong.
 
daytrader said:
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@topspin another fifty for Babar and this time he tops the chart for impact runs. This is another example that proves your statement about strike rate being the most important factor for impact as being wrong.
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🤡 Moment for you and Babar's blind fans.

ESPN's MVP calculator takes Impact Runs as one of the variables alongside many towards a multiplier that actually calculates the real impact which is given by Batting Impact.

  • The Batting/Bowling Impact is thus a factor not only of the runs scored/wickets taken/economy rate, but also of the pressure under which these performances happened.
There's a reason why the Final rating is taken out from Batting + Bowling Impact. Not just Impact Runs. That's why Babar is down in the middle in terms of actual impact and reason why he didn't get MOTM.

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daytrader said:
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@topspin another fifty for Babar and this time he tops the chart for impact runs. This is another example that proves your statement about strike rate being the most important factor for impact as being
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Not going to challenge this, but context is also needed. Would such an innings work in a Pakistan team w/ middle to lower order s/r issues. The answer is no. He’s currently not even batting at his best, nevermind making the s/r developments needed. He used to be able to pierce the infield w/ his stroke making but he’s currently getting tied down in the PP. Clearly that has to be acknowledged.
 
It has been an exhilarating time for cricket fans, especially with Babar's outstanding performances. He has scored two remarkable fifties, which played a crucial role in securing two wins for Sydney. Although cricket is a team sport with 11 players, it's clear that Sydney owes a great deal of their success to Babar's match-winning abilities.

On another note, Sahibzada is currently receiving mentoring from Ahmed Shehzad. With such valuable guidance, I'm quite confident that Sahibzada will shine brightly in the BPL one day.
 
TheSultan said:
A team that won in 19.1 overs. Without the guy who made 34 off 15 balls, they would have lost.

So a certain opener would have carried his bat at a dunce’s strike rate and the team would have lost. How is that impactful?
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Bro it’s the same old nonsense being repeated again and again by his fans. Just wait for Rizwan to do something similar and then watch these blokes harp on and on about it

Before I was filled with vengeance to stop them and change their minds because I actually cared for the mindset to be changed in Pakistan.

Now I realised is that the only way it will change is until we have total annihilation through our own repeated mistakes. Might as well let these guys force us into another setback (8th in a row because of Babar and maybe his friend). No way these guys will ever learn or change.
 
RidiculousMan said:
🤡 Moment for you and Babar's blind fans.

ESPN's MVP calculator takes Impact Runs as one of the variables alongside many towards a multiplier that actually calculates the real impact which is given by Batting Impact.

  • The Batting/Bowling Impact is thus a factor not only of the runs scored/wickets taken/economy rate, but also of the pressure under which these performances happened.
There's a reason why the Final rating is taken out from Batting + Bowling Impact. Not just Impact Runs. That's why Babar is down in the middle in terms of actual impact and reason why he didn't get MOTM.
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Oh how you wish.... against all the negative propoganda you guys spread, I will gladly gloat any metric that Riz/Bar lead in even if you think it's not important and even at the expense of being called a clown.

I clearly mentioned 'impact runs' and didn't say anything about MOTM. And it's referred to as MVP btw. Match officials don't use ESPN's MVP calculator to decide the POTM and you'll often find they reach different results.

Point I was making is that scoring considerable runs has an impact even if they are a bit slower. His impact runs are the same as his actual runs and he did this by doing nothing different than he usually does. At one point he was 26 off 27 yet he ended up 3rd on overall Batting Impact. The guys ahead of him not only scored considerable runs (I believe expert consensus on this is 30 runs) but scored them at nearly double the strike rate. The other opener was marginally ahead of him on the list.
 
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