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Will Babar Azam be dropped for the 2nd Test against Australia?

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Waqar just mentions they want to play sharjeel so one of Asad or Babar will be dropped with Asad getting a 50 here means Babar may get the chop:( hope they dont do this stupidity.
 
They planned to drop asad shafiq, lets see if he can score 100+......
 
We need to bring in Sharjeel.

He's a must. I don't care who gets dropped. Ideally, it should be YK getting the chops.

But, Babar or Sami are fine too, we must get Sharjeel in.
 
Heard the same but that would be stupid to say the least,should get Sami out get in Sharjeel for him.
 
We need to bring in Sharjeel.

He's a must. I don't care who gets dropped. Ideally, it should be YK getting the chops.

But, Babar or Sami are fine too, we must get Sharjeel in.

Sami is the most vulnerable and it would be a good thing. He's been struggling against the bouncers and its best to rest him for the remainder of the series.

Sharjeel needs to go out there and smash this Hazlewood off his line. Such an annoying bowler.
 
Sami is the most vulnerable and it would be a good thing. He's been struggling against the bouncers and its best to rest him for the remainder of the series.

Sharjeel needs to go out there and smash this Hazlewood off his line. Such an annoying bowler.
Sharjeel would be nicked off with in an over.
 
Sami should be dropped. Babar can have the rest of this series. He only needs to score a century and the floodgates will open.
 
Won't be a problem.

We are not getting the impetus from our Openers.

Babar needs not to worry. Misbah will retire after this series and his spot will most likely go to him.
 
Are people serious aboutique Sharjeel? You guys have lost it. Watching too much T20 folks.

Babar just had a 90 2 innings ago and has actually looked like he wants to score. Yeah let's drop him.

As for Sami...again had a 90 2 innings ago in the 4th innings.
 
Babar needs to be persisted with. Sharjeel isnt good enough for Test match cricket.
 
What guarantee you have got that sharjeel will perform?

If they want to make a change, then bring Rizwan in, because he has been in the squad longer then sharjeel
 
No he shouldn't be dropped at all. He just needs to leave the wide balls, otherwise he looks solid.

Maybe Sami can be. But it will be harsh on him as well.
 
They will persist with the same batting line up in the 2nd test. Shafiq if out of the penalty box after his 100. Babar is thought highly of by Micky so he will be persisted with and Sami hasn't done all that bad to be dropped for the hit-and-miss Sharjeel.
 
I don't think they will change any batters.

Only problem I see is three left armers making foot hold for Lyon that cost us two vital wickets, cannot do that in MCG and specially Sydney. Pakistan will be looking at Imran to play role like Bird, wicket to wicket at good length.
 
I doubt this is true. Arthur's been public in his support for Babar who has a good Test record so far.

Sharjeel may struggle with those fuller, inswinging deliveries from Starc given his slow footwork at the crease.

He can cut and pull the ball but whether his defence is good enough for Test cricket against the new ball remains to be seen.
 
He should be given a good run, until end of WI away series, unless of course if he really looses it.

Youngster should be given the backing by getting a run of 10 or so matches.

Sharjeel can wait for now, Misbah will probably retire after this series, and Sharjeel can be tried as an opener for WI with Azhar dropping to 3 and Babar at 5.
 
That would be very harsh on the youngster.

Shouldn't treat him like we treated U. Akmal in Tests. I expect Mickey/Inzi to be wiser than 70's tuk tuk master Mohsin Khan.
 
Nope, based on what I have seen so far, Babar should be given an extended run without any hint of getting dropped based on 1-2 matches.
 
I don't think they should, but, he is quite ordinary against spin and needs some time to establish himself at the top of the order which i feel is very challenging for any young batsman.
 
Now I know I could get hate for this but why not stick with the current XI for the next test. With Sami and Azhar's patience its best to continue with them. Now one thing I must say is that I'm not the biggest fan of Azhar opening but to balance the middle order he has to come in No.2. Babar Azam is one of the brightest future prospects in world cricket and continuing with him should be wise as this is his first away series and just like Sami its there first in Australia. Also the next test will not be a Day/Night test which means a red ball will be used. If there will be changes made to the team then adding a RFM bowler for a leftie should be ideal as majority of Australia's batters are Left handed (well the first 7) so playing a RFM could be cool. Also who knows Sharjeel could potentially fail against Aussie bowlers with there bouncers and precise yorkers. Sticking with the current xi will be good. Dropping anyone after one test in the series could be potentially morale and confidence destroying. But then again this is WHAT I think
 
Well the problem is that the our two elderly statesmen are untouchables. So either of the two youngsters will have to make their way if they want to play Sharjeel
 
Sharjeel has the shots but is technically poor, Sami is slightly better but has very few shots. Take your pick. I don't think they make any changes to the batting this match as Sami still has decent stats and if Sharjeel fails they will look foolish.
 
same team will play. Sami is still in his developing stages , played a difficult england tour , scored a very good 50 in difficult conditions in newzealand. I am pretty sure as the series progresses he will score 50s here as well. Babar is a very good batsman but needs to cut down on poking outside off. No need to drop any batsman for the next match.

The only change could be imran khan in for rahat ali
 
No change at the top order necessary however I feel we should rest Rahat for the next game in place of Imran khan.
 
I don't think they should drop him. although I have to say that the akmal diaspora do not know how to play spin
 
I am against bringing Sharjeel in the test team but if they are going to do that then i suggest its better to drop Sami than Babar.
 
No change at the top order necessary however I feel we should rest Rahat for the next game in place of Imran khan.

"Rest" or whatever. Rahat should be shipped back to Pakistan. It hurts me to see him in the Pakistani team. He is that bad.
 
I don't know how he will do in Melbourne and how the pitch will play but Sharjeel would have been out for under 10 both innings in this match
 
I think we need a hitter at top who can give a good start

Drop Babar
And bring azhar to 1 down

Sharjeel
Sami
Azhar
Younis
Misbah
Shafiq
Sarfraz
Amir
Yasir
Wahab
Rahat
 
Drop your best bat for an hit or miss player? Lol

It's like India dropping a young kohli for a t20 hitter.
 
Any chance we are going to see Asghar in the next match? It will be a completely left-field decision and will weaken our batting a bit (if we drop a batsman to play Asghar) but think about the amount of pressure Yasir and Asghar can impose when bowling in tandem. Also Australia would never have seen Asghar and he is far too good a bowler to be faced when going in blind. Australia aren't all that competent against spin either, give him and Yasir an attacking field and I'm sure we will dismiss them for under 200.
 
Any chance we are going to see Asghar in the next match? It will be a completely left-field decision and will weaken our batting a bit (if we drop a batsman to play Asghar) but think about the amount of pressure Yasir and Asghar can impose when bowling in tandem. Also Australia would never have seen Asghar and he is far too good a bowler to be faced when going in blind. Australia aren't all that competent against spin either, give him and Yasir an attacking field and I'm sure we will dismiss them for under 200.

How are you expecting Asghar and Yasir to work wonders in conditions which are totally not suited to their bowling

There's a reason why bigger and better spinners than Asghr and even Yasir have a poor record in Auztralia
 
It will be a stupid thing to do.

I am not impressed by Sarjeel's batting.He don't have an assuring presence on the crease.He never seemed to me as a test material.And his place in ODI side is not cemented yet.I was really surprised to see him in test squad.Pakistani selectors are clueless as always.Even if Sharjeel gets a hundred in his debut test , my opinion won't change.He won't last long in tests.Pakistan should persist with Sami and Babar.These 2 are the future backbone of Pakistani batting.
 
No. Starc will be licking his lips when he sees Sharjeel
 
I hope not. He needs all the experience there is. This tour has the potential to be his most challenging and formative tour.
 
No. Starc will be licking his lips when he sees Sharjeel

Actually Hazelwood would be licking his lips more.

Starc's natural length is just back of the length and Sharjeel relishes in anything that is even slightly short. Hazelwood on the other hand pitches it right up and Sharjeel will knick off in no time.
 
Any chance we are going to see Asghar in the next match? It will be a completely left-field decision and will weaken our batting a bit (if we drop a batsman to play Asghar) but think about the amount of pressure Yasir and Asghar can impose when bowling in tandem. Also Australia would never have seen Asghar and he is far too good a bowler to be faced when going in blind. Australia aren't all that competent against spin either, give him and Yasir an attacking field and I'm sure we will dismiss them for under 200.


Bhai 5 out of the top 7 is left handers, so why would you want to pick a left arm spinner? :danish
 
Misbah won't change his team. Sami has done a remarkable job considering the number of games he has played and the difficult conditions in which he has survived and scored runs.

It would be extremely stupid to even think of dropping Babar for Sharjeel. Babar is one youngster Pakistan need to persist with even if he fails continuously initially.
 
He might. He might also score a 60(50) and get Pakistan off to a great start.

he is not doing that consistently in ODIs too... he will be one series wonder maximum, he has to improve a lot on his off side game especially...
 
he is not doing that consistently in ODIs too... he will be one series wonder maximum, he has to improve a lot on his off side game especially...

That's a big 'if'.

A one series wonder is all we need right now. Sharjeel doesn't have much potential in tests but he's the perfect batsman for this series, just like Irfan would have been the perfect bowler.

Any chance we are going to see Asghar in the next match? It will be a completely left-field decision and will weaken our batting a bit (if we drop a batsman to play Asghar) but think about the amount of pressure Yasir and Asghar can impose when bowling in tandem. Also Australia would never have seen Asghar and he is far too good a bowler to be faced when going in blind. Australia aren't all that competent against spin either, give him and Yasir an attacking field and I'm sure we will dismiss them for under 200.

It should depend on whether we bat first and if the pitch is expected to break down. But yeah, if Asghar is a decent lower-order bat, he can be an option.
 
The two players who should be dropped are Younis and Misbah.

Personally I think that Misbah should do what Mike Denness did in Australia, and drop himself.
 
Why in the world would you drop Babar Azam? The ones advocating for him being dropped have no idea how to develop a young batsman.

People want to see Sharjeel at the top because they aren't entertained enough by Sami/Azhar. Sami just made a 90 in NZ. He plays out the new ball and protects the middle order. This is not LOI cricket.
 
A one series wonder is all we need right now. Sharjeel doesn't have much potential in tests but he's the perfect batsman for this series, just like Irfan would have been the perfect bowler.



It should depend on whether we bat first and if the pitch is expected to break down. But yeah, if Asghar is a decent lower-order bat, he can be an option.

Why in this series more than others do we need a batsman who will get out cheaply?
 
Pretty silly I'd say if they drop Babar in the next test. I'd probably think if they think to bring in Sharjeel then it might be for Sami.
 
Finally we have a couple of openers capable of lasting more than 5 overs on a regular basis.

Let them be, as they gain more confidence in their positions, runs will come at a quicker rate.
 
Sharjeel's weakness outside the off stump would get severely exposed on a bouncy track.
 
Doesn;t make any sense , the best new batsman to emerge from Pak in last 5 years. The best batsman in the team at the moment.
 
Why in this series more than others do we need a batsman who will get out cheaply?

Because Sharjeel's strengths are cutting and pulling the ball and Australian pitches allow him to do that with abandon, provided that he can keep the fuller ones out.
 
Waqar should not be talking abt any inside team news he has.
U know something, keep quiet and discuss it when final XI is in ground on Boxing day
 
Why in the world would you drop Babar Azam? The ones advocating for him being dropped have no idea how to develop a young batsman.

People want to see Sharjeel at the top because they aren't entertained enough by Sami/Azhar. Sami just made a 90 in NZ. He plays out the new ball and protects the middle order. This is not LOI cricket.

ppl forget and underestimate the impact a newball can make...even though he protect and bat for the first 20-
25 overs to blunt the newball, still middle order struggles...Sami Azhar Babar have been saving an early collapse or the pacers running through the batting order and making 20/6 in the first 15 overs.. yet still they collapse to 60/6 in 35 overs...
 
If anything, it is YK and Misbah that are the current weak links in this team in terms of their batting. The former won't be dropped because of his first 50 after 4 Tests and the latter is the captain, both need to perform and get big scores in the next 2 matches.

Babar is the future of Pakistan batting, should not and cannot be dropped (hopefully).
 
Because Sharjeel's strengths are cutting and pulling the ball and Australian pitches allow him to do that with abandon, provided that he can keep the fuller ones out.

Provided a lot of things. In the end what matters is not what are his strengths, but whether is actually good enough. However slow I can see any of the current bats getting a century in the coming days, including Sami, but it would be very fortunate if Sharjeel could get beyond a quick 60, and he is much more likely to be walking off after a blistering 12.
 
Just cant believe we have selected a hack Sharjeel for test series in Australia even Shehzad would be a safe bet Babar Azam should play next game he deserves if any batsman needs to be dropped then i dare say its MIsbah
 
Because Sharjeel's strengths are cutting and pulling the ball and Australian pitches allow him to do that with abandon, provided that he can keep the fuller ones out.

Does Sharjeel have a technique to leave delieveries outside off stump NO!
 
Provided a lot of things. In the end what matters is not what are his strengths, but whether is actually good enough. However slow I can see any of the current bats getting a century in the coming days, including Sami, but it would be very fortunate if Sharjeel could get beyond a quick 60, and he is much more likely to be walking off after a blistering 12.

Shouldn't die wondering. We've seen what Sami can give us over the last three tests. Sharjeel should be given a game to prove his worth, especially when Pakistan have gotten some momentum on their side.
 
As much as I would love to see Sharjeel in the team, unfortunately there's no space for him. They only change I would make is bring in Sohail Khan for Rahat.
 
Babar Azam should be one of the first names on the team sheet. Captain should tell him that for atleast next 10 tests, his place at No. 3 is secured, so go play your natural game.
 
Shot selection can be improved and needs working on.

Just needs to put a bigger price on his wicket, as at times he gives it away too easily.
 
Shot selection can be improved and needs working on.

Just needs to put a bigger price on his wicket, as at times he gives it away too easily.

The struggle agains spin seems to be a family speciality. But agree that he should not be dropped.
 
No. How can you drop your best Test batsman? He is the talent of the millennium, should be persisted with.
 
Sharjeel for Sami Aslam makes sense but not with Babar.. Babar needs to be persisted with.

Knowing YK and Misbah's struggle, they can make way for Sharjeel also however that is never going to happen so its Sami Aslam who needs to go. With Azhar playing at snails pace, you need someone with him to play natural attacking cricket. We cannot survive in these conditions with so many tuk tuks. 4th innings in last test is enough evidence to suggest that attacking play is what is needed. We will anyways lose, might as well try going full guns blazing.
 
Shouldn't die wondering. We've seen what Sami can give us over the last three tests. Sharjeel should be given a game to prove his worth, especially when Pakistan have gotten some momentum on their side.

Can't give Sharjeel one game, that is just Mickey Mouse cricket administration. If you give someone
a chance they should get at least 4-5 Tests, and more if they show promise.

And yes, we have seen what Sami can give us this past year. He has been the second best Pakistani
batsman, and the best opening prospect for many years.
 
He is doing all the right things and like Azhar Ali in England in 2010, he also needs to be persisted with.
 
But he averaged 50+ in all formats for 15 seconds.

On a serious note, he deserves to play the whole series. He is still related to an Akmal and the blood will begin to show but Pakistan's batting future depends on relying on some young talent and if that means less returns initially, so be it. Persistence will pay off eventually.
 
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