Will Bilawal Bhutto be the next Prime Minister of Pakistan?

[Mamoon]

Bilawal is certainly a very promising candidate. He is educated, well-mannered, tolerant, articulate and knows how to get his points across with getting personal. A proper statesman who is nothing like his father.

However, it is too early for him now - his time will come. The future of Pakistan politics is Maryam vs Bilawal, who are both massive improvements on their fathers.

In the short run, I feel that Shehbaz Sharif is the most suitable candidate for PM-ship. He is dedicated and experienced.

 

[Loralai]

I do like Bilawal but his party is a dead horse and needs a serious clean out if it wishes to remain relevant.

Also we cannot escape the fact that he has not been democraticallly elected the head of the PPP.

 

[Bewal Express]

I do like Bilawal but his party is a dead horse and needs a serious clean out if it wishes to remain relevant.

Also we cannot escape the fact that he has not been democraticallly elected the head of the PPP.

So obviously your liberalism is quite happy with corrupt dynasties. Why else would you even talk about Billo? What has Billo achieved in his life?

 

[UP]

Bilawal needs to sort out his language and accent to be taken seriously.

 

[ManFan]

If he becomes PM than I will have to label Pakistan a “lost cause”.

People supporting him in this thread are so used to ghulami that they can’t see beyond its scope.

 

[Syed1]

If he becomes PM than I will have to label Pakistan a “lost cause”.

People supporting him in this thread are so used to ghulami that they can’t see beyond its scope.

No no all that matters is that he is articulate and well-mannered. Doesn't matter that he has been born with a golden spoon in his mouth, hasn't worked a day in his life and barely even speaks Urdu.

 

[ManFan]

No no all that matters is that he is articulate and well-mannered. Doesn't matter that he has been born with a golden spoon in his mouth, hasn't worked a day in his life and barely even speaks Urdu.

Articulation and good manners is like saying, “What Would the British Do?”

 

[Loralai]

So obviously your liberalism is quite happy with corrupt dynasties. Why else would you even talk about Billo? What has Billo achieved in his life?

When did I say I was happy with corrupt dynasties? All I have said is that I like Bilawal as he is mature, sensible and educated. I also said we can't ignore the fact he isn't elected democratically to lead his party, which should be a cause of concern for all interested in our politics.

Nothing wrong with talking about Bilawal. He comes across as intelligent and level headed - clearly his Oxford education was worthwhile.

Language and accent are minor issues - we should pay attention to what he says rather than how he is saying it. Remember Quaid-e-Azam himself was not fluent in Urdu.

 

[ManFan]

When did I say I was happy with corrupt dynasties? All I have said is that I like Bilawal as he is mature, sensible and educated. I also said we can't ignore the fact he isn't elected democratically to lead his party, which should be a cause of concern for all interested in our politics.

Nothing wrong with talking about Bilawal. He comes across as intelligent and level headed - clearly his Oxford education was worthwhile.

Language and accent are minor issues - we should pay attention to what he says rather than how he is saying it. Remember Quaid-e-Azam himself was not fluent in Urdu.

Quaid-e-Azam was also the youngest person to be called to the Bar at nineteen.

Apples and oranges that comparison.

Even though most Pakistanis did not understand him, they at least respected and were willing to lay down their lives for him.

Integrity is a quality that cannot be taught.

 

[Bewal Express]

When did I say I was happy with corrupt dynasties? All I have said is that I like Bilawal as he is mature, sensible and educated. I also said we can't ignore the fact he isn't elected democratically to lead his party, which should be a cause of concern for all interested in our politics.

Nothing wrong with talking about Bilawal. He comes across as intelligent and level headed - clearly his Oxford education was worthwhile.

Language and accent are minor issues - we should pay attention to what he says rather than how he is saying it. Remember Quaid-e-Azam himself was not fluent in Urdu.

How is Billo mature- when did he ever utter a single word against father or auntie, or the mafia state that is Sindh. What is intelligent about letting his family steal billions from the weakest in society. If his Oxford is worthwhile than what is a bad education. Your pathetic sycophancy of this corrupt, pathetic family is bizarre and embarrassing.

 

[Bewal Express]

Quaid-e-Azam was also the youngest person to be called to the Bar at nineteen.

Apples and oranges that comparison.

Even though most Pakistanis did not understand him, they at least respected and were willing to lay down their lives for him.

Integrity is a quality that cannot be taught.

[MENTION=142317]Loralai[/MENTION] liberalism is devoted to sucking upto the corrupt and evil people.

 

[Loralai]

How is Billo mature- when did he ever utter a single word against father or auntie, or the mafia state that is Sindh. What is intelligent about letting his family steal billions from the weakest in society. If his Oxford is worthwhile than what is a bad education. Your pathetic sycophancy of this corrupt, pathetic family is bizarre and embarrassing.

He has conducted himself maturely in the interviews he has held with the international press. His recent interview in BBC Hardtalk was impressive - much moreso than Imrans.

He should not be blamed for the actions of his father or aunt. He was not in control of their behaviour and therefore it is unfair to judge him for the way they have behaved.

We must learn to take a rational and liberal approach to dealing with political situations in Pakistan instead of frying ourselves in bitterness.

 

[enkidu_]

He has conducted himself maturely in the interviews he has held with the international press. His recent interview in BBC Hardtalk was impressive - much moreso than Imrans.

He should not be blamed for the actions of his father or aunt. He was not in control of their behaviour and therefore it is unfair to judge him for the way they have behaved.

We must learn to take a rational and liberal approach to dealing with political situations in Pakistan instead of frying ourselves in bitterness.

He should not be blamed for the actions of his father or aunt, but they are the reason he's into politics to begin with, and that the next lines of Bhutto's-Zardari's will be as well.

I hope you also take a "rational" and "liberal" approach to why Pak politics is an extension of feudalism with its dynastic politics, and Bilawal/Maryam, even if they speak good English or get a good make up for their BBC itw, ideally shouldn't have more reasons to be there than millions of others (the ones looted by their families, as well).

 

[Loralai]

What I find most interesting about this thread is that certain posters who have exhibited such strong disgust for Bilawal, but have, in other threads, remained silent when the time has come to condemn like the likes of Khadim Hussain Rizvi, Aurangzeb Farooqi, ASWJ, Ramzan Mengal, AAT, Mian Mithoo, Fazlur Rehman Khalil etc.

I wonder who is a more urgent and serious threat to Pakistan - Bilawal or violent fanatics preaching openly and participating in elections.

 

[ManFan]

What I find most interesting about this thread is that certain posters who have exhibited such strong disgust for Bilawal, but have, in other threads, remained silent when the time has come to condemn like the likes of Khadim Hussain Rizvi, Aurangzeb Farooqi, ASWJ, Ramzan Mengal, AAT, Mian Mithoo, Fazlur Rehman Khalil etc.

I wonder who is a more urgent and serious threat to Pakistan - Bilawal or violent fanatics preaching openly and participating in elections.

Doesn’t matter the party, a leech is a leech.

The reason why I support PTI is they do not have a history of sucking this country’s blood dry.

At least yet.

 

[Loralai]

I hope you also take a "rational" and "liberal" approach to why Pak politics is an extension of feudalism with its dynastic politics, and Bilawal/Maryam, even if they speak good English or get a good make up for their BBC itw, ideally shouldn't have more reasons to be there than millions of others (the ones looted by their families, as well).

I don't disagree with you. I am not a fan of dynasty politics. And I have stated previously the fact that Bilawal is not democratically elected head of PPP (in fact this party has never had such a thing) is totally unacceptable.

However, he has not fared as badly as many would have liked him to in his limited career so far and that is something that should be accepted.

I do hope he takes steps to change this and make PPP leadership fully accountable, but I don't expect this to happen any time soon - it will take time for him to detach himself from the dirty politics of his father and aunt.

 

[DeadBall]

When did I say I was happy with corrupt dynasties? All I have said is that I like Bilawal as he is mature, sensible and educated. I also said we can't ignore the fact he isn't elected democratically to lead his party, which should be a cause of concern for all interested in our politics.

Nothing wrong with talking about Bilawal. He comes across as intelligent and level headed - clearly his Oxford education was worthwhile.

Language and accent are minor issues - we should pay attention to what he says rather than how he is saying it. Remember Quaid-e-Azam himself was not fluent in Urdu.

So should every mature, sensible and Oxford educated person run for Prime Minister? The fact of the matter is that no one would have given him a second look (many don't even now) if he was not born in that family. he has barely lived in Pakistan, has weak knowledge of the language and in his own words would rather be doing something else.

 

[Loralai]

So should every mature, sensible and Oxford educated person run for Prime Minister? The fact of the matter is that no one would have given him a second look (many don't even now) if he was not born in that family. he has barely lived in Pakistan, has weak knowledge of the language and in his own words would rather be doing something else.

I didn't say that everyone with those qualities should be running for Prime Minister. I merely said Bilawal comes across as intelligent and level headed.

I don't understand why people find his accent and Urdu so upsetting. It isn't a serious issue as long as what he is saying has merit.

Side point - I think the obsession with his Urdu is part of a darker area in our history and our policies on language - we should remember that for the majority of Pakistanis, Urdu is not their mother tongue and was only forced on them as a result of the creation of Pakistan and the decision to make Urdu (and English, which Bilawal has a perfect command of) the national language(s).

 

[Mian]

So should every mature, sensible and Oxford educated person run for Prime Minister? The fact of the matter is that no one would have given him a second look (many don't even now) if he was not born in that family. he has barely lived in Pakistan, has weak knowledge of the language and in his own words would rather be doing something else.

After Imran Khan PTI got Asad Umar to lead the party in future and the chances are really high of him leading PTI i wonder if someone from outside Bhuttos/Zardari or Sharifs will be able to lead PPP or PMLN? There is a 0 chance

 

[Syed1]

When did I say I was happy with corrupt dynasties? All I have said is that I like Bilawal as he is mature, sensible and educated. I also said we can't ignore the fact he isn't elected democratically to lead his party, which should be a cause of concern for all interested in our politics.

Nothing wrong with talking about Bilawal. He comes across as intelligent and level headed - clearly his Oxford education was worthwhile.

Language and accent are minor issues - we should pay attention to what he says rather than how he is saying it. Remember Quaid-e-Azam himself was not fluent in Urdu.

QeA must have just tossed and turned in his grave that somebody just compared him to Billoo Rani...

 

[Greenstorm]

Our so-called liberals supporting Bilawal and Nawaz, why am I not surprised.

 

[Bewal Express]

He has conducted himself maturely in the interviews he has held with the international press. His recent interview in BBC Hardtalk was impressive - much moreso than Imrans.

He should not be blamed for the actions of his father or aunt. He was not in control of their behaviour and therefore it is unfair to judge him for the way they have behaved.

We must learn to take a rational and liberal approach to dealing with political situations in Pakistan instead of frying ourselves in bitterness.

So if he isnt going to own their behaviour then why doesnt he come out and call for dad and aunties arrest. Your defence of the corrupt is like all fake liberals that defend the corrupt.

 

[Bewal Express]

I don't disagree with you. I am not a fan of dynasty politics. And I have stated previously the fact that Bilawal is not democratically elected head of PPP (in fact this party has never had such a thing) is totally unacceptable.

However, he has not fared as badly as many would have liked him to in his limited career so far and that is something that should be accepted.

I do hope he takes steps to change this and make PPP leadership fully accountable, but I don't expect this to happen any time soon - it will take time for him to detach himself from the dirty politics of his father and aunt.

I am not a fan of dynastic politics but Billo is the epitome of dynastic politics. Can you tell me about his business acumen or anything else he has done in life?

 

[Bewal Express]

After Imran Khan PTI got Asad Umar to lead the party in future and the chances are really high of him leading PTI i wonder if someone from outside Bhuttos/Zardari or Sharifs will be able to lead PPP or PMLN? There is a 0 chance

The level of sycophancy of the corrupt dynasties from some on this forum is just draw dropping. When will some of these people realise that they are not on your or PK side, they are loyal to family and bank accounts.

 

[enkidu_]

I don't disagree with you. I am not a fan of dynasty politics. And I have stated previously the fact that Bilawal is not democratically elected head of PPP (in fact this party has never had such a thing) is totally unacceptable.

However, he has not fared as badly as many would have liked him to in his limited career so far and that is something that should be accepted.

I do hope he takes steps to change this and make PPP leadership fully accountable, but I don't expect this to happen any time soon - it will take time for him to detach himself from the dirty politics of his father and aunt.

Dude, what a defeatist mindset. That's like a thief who breaks into your house, and because he has stolen everything but the chairs, you're like "thank you for your mercy".

The thing is : it's not written in some religious scripture or the Constitution that the peoples of Pakistan should keep nurturing the leeches from the same families, and for generations. The fact that Bilawal smiles a lot of Maryam makes a good byriani is absolutely tangential to all of this. When you're a doctor, is your son/daughter one as well, by default, or doesn't (s)he have to study ? Politics aren't genetics.

Be a brave liberal unlike Hameed Haroon.

 

[Mian]

The level of sycophancy of the corrupt dynasties from some on this forum is just draw dropping. When will some of these people realise that they are not on your or PK side, they are loyal to family and bank accounts.

For these families Baadhshahat is equal to Democracy

 

[Loralai]

So obviously your liberalism is quite happy with corrupt dynasties. Why else would you even talk about Billo? What has Billo achieved in his life?

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] it seems you have had a change of mind regarding Bilawal, as expressed in the General Election thread. Seems like you now want him to be CM of Sindh. Interesting u-turn.

What has triggered this change of opinion?

Or are you too now happy with corrupt dynasties?

If Billo could lock up the PPP mafia in Sindh that is headed by Dad and Auntie, he may have some future. I would actually like to see Billo to take the CM job in Sindh and use that Oxford education for those masses his party has looted

 

[Bewal Express]

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] it seems you have had a change of mind regarding Bilawal, as expressed in the General Election thread. Seems like you now want him to be CM of Sindh. Interesting u-turn.

What has triggered this change of opinion?

Or are you too now happy with corrupt dynasties?

Tbh, i havent as i can never accept dynastic politics but i am a realist and his party in Sindh is a disgrace but still win. If thats not going to change, then lets see that Oxford education put to some good use. Lets see him change the conditions of the poor that have been so loyal to his family, lets see him feel their pain and fight for them against their oppressors who are his Dad, aunt and the Wadera in Sindh. If he takes the CM in Sindh and cleans up the craap, then i will have more respect for him.

 

[Loralai]

Good performance by Bilawal during recent months. He has done well in the election and come out with his reputation enhanced.

Lets see how he develops as an opposition leader in coming months.

 

[slipcatch]

Tbh, i havent as i can never accept dynastic politics but i am a realist and his party in Sindh is a disgrace but still win. If thats not going to change, then lets see that Oxford education put to some good use. Lets see him change the conditions of the poor that have been so loyal to his family, lets see him feel their pain and fight for them against their oppressors who are his Dad, aunt and the Wadera in Sindh. If he takes the CM in Sindh and cleans up the craap, then i will have more respect for him.

I’m from interior Sindh, educate those people and they will never vote for PPP, again.

And those who are getting impressed by his speech with no content are the biggest hypocrites either intentionally or they are as naive as those uneducated people if Sindh.

 

[Major]

Bilawal is certainly a very promising candidate. He is educated, well-mannered, tolerant, articulate and knows how to get his points across with getting personal. A proper statesman who is nothing like his father.

However, it is too early for him now - his time will come. The future of Pakistan politics is Maryam vs Bilawal, who are both massive improvements on their fathers.

In the short run, I feel that Shehbaz Sharif is the most suitable candidate for PM-ship. He is dedicated and experienced.

but you have to admit one thing.

Just with one speech all the PTI fans seem to be threaten by him. Even though Imran has become PM, but this thread and twitter shows how pti fans have gone crazy.

Funny how just few days ago bilawal was a mummy daddy burger bacha, now he is corrupt and he shold be found guilty for his father's corruption, who enjoys nro because of mushy.



Man one speech could do this much damage.

 

[Syed1]

but you have to admit one thing.

Just with one speech all the PTI fans seem to be threaten by him. Even though Imran has become PM, but this thread and twitter shows how pti fans have gone crazy.

Funny how just few days ago bilawal was a mummy daddy burger bacha, now he is corrupt and he shold be found guilty for his father's corruption, who enjoys nro because of mushy.



Man one speech could do this much damage.

Damage

 

[Abdullah719]

Damage

If you want to see real damage, look at the state of Sindh under PPP )

 

[Bewal Express]

but you have to admit one thing.

Just with one speech all the PTI fans seem to be threaten by him. Even though Imran has become PM, but this thread and twitter shows how pti fans have gone crazy.

Funny how just few days ago bilawal was a mummy daddy burger bacha, now he is corrupt and he shold be found guilty for his father's corruption, who enjoys nro because of mushy.



Man one speech could do this much damage.

The real reason for my anger is that idiots have short memories as to the terrible government of the PPP and their continued theft in Sindh, which you conveniently ignore and which he could actually do something about. Why dont you call for him to takeover the Sindh govt and make a difference or is that job of controlling his own family mafia too much for him.

 

[Bewal Express]

If you want to see real damage, look at the state of Sindh under PPP )

Thats not a problem, Billo speaks good English and his family only steal from worthless poor people whose lives are worthless. Billo for PM

 

[Bewal Express]

I’m from interior Sindh, educate those people and they will never vote for PPP, again.

And those who are getting impressed by his speech with no content are the biggest hypocrites either intentionally or they are as naive as those uneducated people if Sindh.

As i have just said the only "educated people" that support this mafia are people who believe that the victims of the PPP are worthless craap who dont deserve respect or any sort of decent govt.

 

[moghul]

Bilawal is certainly a very promising candidate. He is educated, well-mannered, tolerant, articulate and knows how to get his points across with getting personal. A proper statesman who is nothing like his father.

However, it is too early for him now - his time will come. The future of Pakistan politics is Maryam vs Bilawal, who are both massive improvements on their fathers.

In the short run, I feel that Shehbaz Sharif is the most suitable candidate for PM-ship. He is dedicated and experienced.

Well educated ? he is high school drop out. Can you tell me what exactly is his education, qualification ?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

but you have to admit one thing.

Just with one speech all the PTI fans seem to be threaten by him. Even though Imran has become PM, but this thread and twitter shows how pti fans have gone crazy.

Funny how just few days ago bilawal was a mummy daddy burger bacha, now he is corrupt and he shold be found guilty for his father's corruption, who enjoys nro because of mushy.



Man one speech could do this much damage.

Bilawal is 30 years old, what's his source of income?

 

[Abdullah719]

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[WebGuru]

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67 year old IK's fitness is still better thn this 30 year old billo #JustSaying

 

[whyamir]

Bilawal is certainly a very promising candidate. He is educated, well-mannered, tolerant, articulate and knows how to get his points across with getting personal. A proper statesman who is nothing like his father.

However, it is too early for him now - his time will come. The future of Pakistan politics is Maryam vs Bilawal, who are both massive improvements on their fathers.

In the short run, I feel that Shehbaz Sharif is the most suitable candidate for PM-ship. He is dedicated and experienced.

Lmao