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Will Fakhar Zaman get found out?

Fakhar have problem with short pitch which he needs to work on .
Having said that some of the experts in these thread amaze me .we deserves player like rifitullah ,ahmex shehzad
 
Irresponsible from Fakhar, giving it away. Very poor at this level
 
Better innings today. He waited for the ball and didn't go at the ball too hard which meant he could time the ball better.

Soft dismissal though.
 
He is nothing more than just a slogger. Yes he showed a bit of patience today but got out to a stupid shot. He is getting out to stupid shot every single time and is not learning from his mistakes and getting out to the same shot. We do not need this type of player in the team. Granted there is no one else to replace him at the moment. But I am sure Masood deserves a chance. Fakhar is just living of his CT innings and minnow bashing. Yes he showed a bit of patience today but got out to a stupid shot. If we were chasing 350 and he got out to a shot like that he’s just a liability. He is getting out to stupid shots every single time and he’s not learning from his mistakes and getting out to the same shot. We do not need this type of player in the team.
 
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We've been hearing for past 2 years that fakhar needs to work on his pull/hook shots.
He hasn't improved.
This is why i would have sharjeel in my team over fakhar any day of the week. Sharjeel is just a better player
 
It’s gotten to the stage where Grant Flower will need to place his head half a metre away from off stump in order to prevent Fakhar from hanging his bat and edging to slips.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
It’s gotten to the stage where Grant Flower will need to place his head half a metre away from off stump in order to prevent Fakhar from hanging his bat and edging to slips.
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He used to smoke the balls outside off. The constant threat of short ball is making him sit in the crease and hang his bat out without any forward press
 
rhony said:
He used to smoke the balls outside off. The constant threat of short ball is making him sit in the crease and hang his bat out without any forward press
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Makes you wonder what he’s been doing in the nets to overcome this weakness, it’s better to get out throwing the kitchen sink at a wide ball and getting caught at gully than to play a little dab to the keeper.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Makes you wonder what he’s been doing in the nets to overcome this weakness, it’s better to get out throwing the kitchen sink at a wide ball and getting caught at gully than to play a little dab to the keeper.
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Thats the surprising thing. I saw him smoke a few short balls to sixers too against NZ. Maybe it's more of a mental thing even though there are technical issues. He's not a pinch hitter to throw the kitchen sink. His scores are typically around 90 to 100 SR. I think his role is not to hit everything but to bat atleast 15 overs.
 
rhony said:
Thats the surprising thing. I saw him smoke a few short balls to sixers too against NZ. Maybe it's more of a mental thing even though there are technical issues. He's not a pinch hitter to throw the kitchen sink. His scores are typically around 90 to 100 SR. I think his role is not to hit everything but to bat atleast 15 overs.
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His SR is 140 in T20’s, with Pakistan playing with 3 all rounders it gives him the licence to go hard from ball 1.

What’s even more surprising is that during the power play when the fielders are inside the 30 yard circle, he’s unable to hit over the in field through the off side.

Just cutting it over gully gets you 4 runs.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
His SR is 140 in T20’s, with Pakistan playing with 3 all rounders it gives him the licence to go hard from ball 1.

What’s even more surprising is that during the power play when the fielders are inside the 30 yard circle, he’s unable to hit over the in field through the off side.

Just cutting it over gully gets you 4 runs.
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True. I was talking about ODIs. Been a tough series for him overall
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fakhar Zaman's disappointing tour of South Africa:<br><br>14<br>4<br>70<br>44<br>2<br>26<br>25<br>1<br>7<br>12<br>12<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSA</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1092082555552186368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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He is low on confidence. Rest him for some one else. A little time off can help him.
 
I don't get why they've not tried others instead of playing him match after match when he is so short of confidence.
 
He'll come back strong for the Australia series, Insha'Allah. Too good a player to not bounce back.
 
It's good for him and the aus odis too,IA he will be ready to play the short ball during the wc
 
Fakar Zaman - Looks like Imran Nazir reincarnated as left hander. Same arm swing. Feets are fixed, while stance opened and whacking towards mid on.

What a contrast to Babar Azam.

Saw highlights just now on Sony Liv of 2nd T20.

Really Really impressed by Babar Azam. Good cricketing shots. Played balls on merit. Especially the cover drives and shots on the rise. Pleasure and privilege to watch some of his shots.

Never expected that, a Pakistani batsmen having exemplary shot selection and fluent play.

Hope he loses form before World cup esp before India match. He is only threat in this whole line up of batters.
 
Fakhar will never get dropped. His CT 100 and 200 vs Zimbabwe have hurt Pak cricket.
Has failed in all the matches on this tour but still Shan masood wasnt goven a chance. And then we complain why Pakistan doesnt improve.
 
One thing which no one notices is the way his bat turns in his hand when he plays a shot. Every ball hits the inside of the bat. The batting coach is clueless.
 
Teams have closed his scoring zones. He has too many weaknesses and poor guy is fighting every game. The fluency is missing. The leg stump line, Short ball, righty bowlers angling across him, leftie bowlers angling into him are all his weaknesses. He is getting out trying to defend and also while hitting out. He plays across the line a lot which makes him vulnerable when balls are straight onto the wickets. He needs a break to atleast sort some of these issues before the Aussie series.
 
He manages to hit a few fours and sixes, but he is always one mishit away from getting dismissed. Opponents have worked out his weakness.
 
Fakhar has won more matches for Pakistan than whatever alternatives you provide have, or ever will. Let that sink in
 
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Usman Chadda said:
Only on PP would you hear rubbish like 'Fakhar's CT 100 have hurt Pakistan'.

Fakhar has won more matches for Pakistan than whatever alternatives you provide have, or ever will. Let that sink in
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Regarding CT final, that win covered up many weaknesses of Pakistan team, and Pakistan continues to live with them. India, after that defeat, totally overhauled their bowling attack. So, while Indians learnt some lessons, Pakistan used this win to paper over their weaknesses.
 
Saj said:
I don't get why they've not tried others instead of playing him match after match when he is so short of confidence.
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Because Pakistan CT has the habit of playing one match wonders over and over again and make careers out of them :afridi :uakmal
 
He simply has lost his mind, can't think anymore, simply bashing each and every ball blindly.
 
saeedhk said:
One thing which no one notices is the way his bat turns in his hand when he plays a shot. Every ball hits the inside of the bat. The batting coach is clueless.
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This is one of the technical flaws that I have been harping on about.

Bat twisting
Head position wrong
Too much bottom hand
Not playing straight a lot of the time
Getting onto the front foot too early resulting in short balls causing him problems.

I'm no batting coach and if I can spot this then why can't Flower.
 
Saj said:
This is one of the technical flaws that I have been harping on about.

Bat twisting
Head position wrong
Too much bottom hand
Not playing straight a lot of the time
Getting onto the front foot too early resulting in short balls causing him problems.

I'm no batting coach and if I can spot this then why can't Flower.
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Batting is about instinct and clarity of thought. There is no doubt that he's under more pressure than ever in his career because his top order comrades Imam and Babar are easily outperforming him. The way SA has exploited his weaknesses game after game has added to the pressure. He's already 28 and Im not sure if batting coaches can change anything drastically at this age.

Head position wrong, too much bottom hand, not playing straight are all because of his desperation to hit the ball hard and score. He's trying to hit his way out of troubles. Getting onto the front foot too early is because he wants to maximize his scoring options - cream the length balls through the offside as he used to earlier.
 
Saj said:
This is one of the technical flaws that I have been harping on about.

Bat twisting
Head position wrong
Too much bottom hand
Not playing straight a lot of the time
Getting onto the front foot too early resulting in short balls causing him problems.

I'm no batting coach and if I can spot this then why can't Flower.
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Thank god there is someone else who sees this. Cuz fans and the batting coach can’t seem to notice this problem. They think he’s lacking confidence which is why he isnt scoring. But his technique is the main issue.
 
QalandarFan said:
Ok so he has played two "Top Teams" since the CT. New Zealand, and South Africa. He has struggled against SA. But in the 7 matches he played against NZL his stats are as follow:

Matches - 7 (5 of them In NZL)
Runs - 304
Ave - 51
SR - 86
50's - 4

Yeah but one tough series in SA and we should drop him for good because the almighty and all knowing poster of PP knew he was going to fail and his technique was never good enough. All his performances at the Intl level have been flukes so let's dust them under the carpet, and drop him forever. :facepalm:
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I agree Fakhar has been and is a very good ODI bat BUT he needs to unclutter his mind. I think he should be dropped from the test side and possibly never play test cricket. In terms of LOs cricket, he should spend some time away from the game, get back to basics and rebuild his confidence because right now, he looks lost and fragile.
 
Unable to make those scores that we need!

Another disappointment 17 off 17 - should have been much more.
 
He was never skilful to begin with. Most of his big scores have been against minnows or when he has been dropped on single digits.

A mediocre player who has been hyped to the moon.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fakhar Zaman on his day is a match-winner. But his scores on this tour have been:<br><br>17<br>14<br>4<br>70<br>44<br>2<br>26<br>25<br>1<br>7<br>12<br>12<br><br>Why keep picking him and destroying his confidence when other players have not been given even one chance<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1093209785699311616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The mentality of hit out, or get out. No point having a brain if you can't use it. This is what I was afraid of when he first started. But he improved his game by nudging the ball around and opening up the off-side.

Unfortunately, like many in the squad, he's regressed.
 
It's the theory of let's keep picking him and hope he might come off in one of these innings.
 
The more he plays, the more he looks like the definition of a hack who struck lucky a few times early in his career. The difference in class between him and Babar in the opening spell was embarrassing. He's been worked out, and I think he will be a liability in the WC if he's chosen.
 
Sherlock said:
The mentality of hit out, or get out. No point having a brain if you can't use it. This is what I was afraid of when he first started. But he improved his game by nudging the ball around and opening up the off-side.

Unfortunately, like many in the squad, he's regressed.
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We keep going after players but what is Grant Flower doing for all these years ? He gets away with it every time.
 
Greenstorm said:
We keep going after players but what is Grant Flower doing for all these years ? He gets away with it every time.
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Look at the other side of the coin. Why aren't you crediting Grant Flower for Babar's rise? Maybe thats why he's in the team
 
Greenstorm said:
We keep going after players but what is Grant Flower doing for all these years ? He gets away with it every time.
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You can only blame Grant and co so much. He was present when Fakhar started and then improved from his limited game. You can't just blame Grant now that he's doing badly.

I get the majority of our batsmen have been poor, but you gotta lay the blame towards to the players too. You think Grant told Fakhar him to play like an amateur throughout this tour?

The newer players that have come into the side have been far for open to learning than what the tried and tested failures have been.
 
Btw, the shot he got out to in the 3rd T20, oh my God.

That was the textbook definition of a batsmen struggling to realise his own game well enough to succeed. Instead he thinks T20s is only about boundaries and cheers in the crowd.

Pathetic.
 
Can't see him doing well at the WC. Our only hope is gone really. Babar alone can't win us the WC.
 
Until he sorts out his technical issues, he will always be a one or two good innings out of ten player.
 
I think it's his own downfall contributing to his slide rather than being found out. He's been getting out to a lot of air shots recently and just needs to be more patient as he still has the ability to score runs quickly.

He doesn't need to try and blast the ball out of the ground every other stroke. Look at Babar in the T20's, he was hitting at 150 SR but playing proper cricket shots. Of course, not every player is like Babar but Fakhar just needs to manage his game better and then he'll be able to last longer.
 
Kroll said:
I think it's his own downfall contributing to his slide rather than being found out. He's been getting out to a lot of air shots recently and just needs to be more patient as he still has the ability to score runs quickly.

He doesn't need to try and blast the ball out of the ground every other stroke. Look at Babar in the T20's, he was hitting at 150 SR but playing proper cricket shots. Of course, not every player is like Babar but Fakhar just needs to manage his game better and then he'll be able to last longer.
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I am not convinced on his technique in general. He seems to drag the ball to onside from off stump, not sure if that is due to his high backlift, but shots which should go through mid off end up going either straight or to mid on. Also, one of his key attributes was his ability to hit the short ball, but he has been horrendous in this tour. Far too many are being missed or edged because the change in pace confuses him.
 
We have seen enough of Fakhar to reach a conclusive conclusion - he is a hack with an ugly technique who needs a lot of luck to fire against good attacks.

It is up to the selectors and the management to decide if they can afford to carry a player like him who will fail 8/10 times against good opposition, but will most probably win the game for his team on those two occasions where his flukey batting will work.

I personally think that the next coach will have less patience for his ugly slogging than Mickey, who sees him as a rebound for losing Sharjeel.
 
Back on the tracks of UAE and he looks comfortable.

Still some awful shots when he is trying to hit the ball too hard.
 
Saj said:
Back on the tracks of UAE and he looks comfortable.

Still some awful shots when he is trying to hit the ball too hard.
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Even Shadab was bowling on his legs. Thats a spinner!!
 
rhony said:
Even Shadab was bowling on his legs. Thats a spinner!!
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At the start of this thread, it was like UAE pitches are not cut out for him and he can only play on fast SENA pitches. Looks like it has reversed now.
 
WengerOut said:
At the start of this thread, it was like UAE pitches are not cut out for him and he can only play on fast SENA pitches. Looks like it has reversed now.
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Still maintain decent record in sena countries.he just struggle with bounce of sa wicket .in other country he have very good record
Vs Nz in nz he averges 50 in odis
Vs sa in sa he averages 33 in odis
In eng he averages 63
 
saeed5646 said:
Still maintain decent record in sena countries.he just struggle with bounce of sa wicket .in other country he have very good record
Vs Nz in nz he averges 50 in odis
Vs sa in sa he averages 33 in odis
In eng he averages 63
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My point was more about the change in opinions about him.
 
saeed5646 said:
Still maintain decent record in sena countries.he just struggle with bounce of sa wicket .in other country he have very good record
Vs Nz in nz he averges 50 in odis
Vs sa in sa he averages 33 in odis
In eng he averages 63
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Raina comes to mind. He was not the same player after teams found out about his inability to play short balls. Fakhar is similar
 
183 runs in 7 innings at the PSL. An average of 26.14.

Teams have worked him out. Today the KK bowlers just angled the ball into him and he was clueless.

Aamir Sohail on tv was saying that Grant Flower has made no diference for Fakhar and that he really needs to work on his leg-side play off the back foot.
 
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His weaknesses are obvious but i still back him to score runs in the wc,he will fight it out
 
Some very disappointing performances by Fakhar during PSL - maybe the pressure of being captain?
 
Fakhar is here to stay as he scored 100 in CT final and 200 vs Zimbabwe. He is a slightly better version of Ahmad Shehzad. He will go missing against top teams but dominate minnows.
 
He's seems so eager to hit boundaries and avoid rotating the strike. That's the downfall of many a batsmen.

His days a numbered I feel, actually he should've been dropped by now if Pakistan had any semblance of knowing to have backup openers and testing more players.
 
saeedhk said:
Fakhar is here to stay as he scored 100 in CT final and 200 vs Zimbabwe. He is a slightly better version of Ahmad Shehzad. He will go missing against top teams but dominate minnows.
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There are no Zim-type minnows in the WC.
 
Fakhar has been found out. Just get Shan masood to open with Imam if he succeeds then keep him. If he doesn't suceeed, keep fakhar.
All this talk about fakhar being aggressive is not applicable anymore. He isn't being fast anymore. The guy goes at a strike rate of 90.
 
What a selfless player he is .He is vital for our chances in worldcup and yesterday he was tested with extreme pace which he handled it quite well .if he bats smartly he will score more often than not.People were too quickly to write him off
 
He is a champion.

Always knew he will come good on the English pitches.
 
Nasser Hussain did a good piece of analysis on Fakhar's batting yesterday.

The clips they showed highlighted how he is now trying to get more over to the off side rather than staying leg side.
 
Fakhar Zaman concerned

I think he has been found, hes a sitting duck it seems.

Just like Imaad, bowl short and you have a chance....
 
Fakhar is a complete liability if the pitches and grounds were old school ODI where 250 was a par score.

On these featherbed true batting surfaces, he is a gem.

Pakistan team management just needs to understand that difference.
 
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