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Will Hasan Ali fail again against India or will he have his revenge?

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In the first match against India Hasan Ali went for 70 runs in 10 overs (ER of 7) with only 1 wicket. Indian batsmen score 3 6s and 7 4s against him; they did not score that many 6s against any other seamer in that match. They targeted him as the weak link in Pakistan bowling.

Then he improved miles against South Africa and in 8 overs only give 24 runs (ER of 3) and get 3 wickets. Only allow 1 4s and no 6s.

Then he shined again against Sri Lanka and in 10 overs only give 43 runs (ER of 4.3) and get 3 wickets. Allow 4 4s and no 6s.

Then he shined again against England and in 10 overs only give 35 runs (ER of 3.5) and get 3 wickets. Allow 2 4s and no 6s.

So he has only failed against India. Only Indian batsmen were able to hit 6s against him. Will he fail again against them or will he have his revenge? What will be his bowling figures in final?
 
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He was bowling well against India until the death overs. Was very unlucky not to get Yuvi with a lovely yorker which he inside edged for four. When dropped catches and close calls like that don't go your way, quality batsmen will cash in.
 
Last 3 matches has been great for him... but thing is Cricket is Won as a Team.. solitary individual brilliance doesn't win matches most of the time.
 
If the law of averages catch up to him then he will have another bad game against India.
 
I predict this game he will be among the best bowling figures, with a low economy rate (under 6 runs per over) and 2-3 wickets.
 
Boi said:
He was bowling well against India until the death overs. Was very unlucky not to get Yuvi with a lovely yorker which he inside edged for four. When dropped catches and close calls like that don't go your way, quality batsmen will cash in.
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Basically this.
He had 6 overs 21 runs. His 7th over was good but he bowled a great yorker which got inside edged for 4.
7 over for 30 runs.
He can do that again with a couple of wickets this time! InshaAllah
 
srh said:
If the law of averages catch up to him then he will have another bad game against India.
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Interesting how the law of averages isnt applicable to Indian batsmen but they are applicable to the Pakistani bowlers. The talk from India and Indian fans on social media, besides a few well-headed ones, firmly puts Pakistan as underdogs for this match.
 
Hasan Ali bowled good than his figures suggest but Indian batsmen were too good.
 
Indian batsmen are smart and definitely not arrogant. They play him cautiously, don't give away their wickets and end his figures with 0-50 or something like that.
 
There is no effect. He had was 30-0 in 7 overs last time too. Just a bad game and it will surely motivate him to go even harder this time around.
 
He's someone who likes taking wickets, not only containing. Two 5 wicket hauls in only 20 games is the proof of it. And he hasn't taken one in a few matches now even though he's looked like it every time, therefore, a good bunch of wickets are due. Maybe it'll be in the final where it matter most.
 
I think getting a game early with india in the tournament will ease a lot of nerves of these youngsters who were playing against india for the first time. The second match they will be more calm and will be not get fazed by the big occassion.
 
True. But the mark of a champion is the way they fight back. And no one can deny that Hasan Ali has placed his team in the final.
 
A lot had to do with Wahab Riaz going for 10 an over. It just cranks up the pressure on everyone else, and gives the batsman a lot more confidence to hit out.

The man is and was a virus for the cricket. Has been for years.

I fully expect a much better performance from Hasan Ali now.
 
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He should forget about the last couple of games and look forward for bigger contribution than before. He seems to be a hard working guy and should do well against Ind. I am hoping for him to get the big fish(kohli).
 
Our batsmen vl respect him in first spell by not trying any extravagant/loose shots nd vl slowly up the ante in his 2nd nd absolutely smash in 3rd spell nd may give a wkt or two at the end..his figures will be spell1 - 5 ovrs 20/0...spell2 - 3 overs 21/0..spell3 - 2 overs 22/0 or 28/1 nd overall 10 overs 65-75 for a wkt or two
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
Our batsmen vl respect him in first spell by not trying any extravagant/loose shots nd vl slowly up the ante in his 2nd nd absolutely smash in 3rd spell nd may give a wkt or two at the end..his figures will be spell1 - 5 ovrs 20/0...spell2 - 3 overs 21/0..spell3 - 2 overs 22/0 or 28/1 nd overall 10 overs 65-75 for a wkt or two
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what a prediction..do more and sleep well..
 
ManFan said:
True. But the mark of a champion is the way they fight back. And no one can deny that Hasan Ali has placed his team in the final.
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somebody who has analyzed all those three games would tell that there are a lot of other things went for Pakistan. things like used pitches, toss, opponents ability under pressure, nothing to lose situation for Pakistan, etc.
 
DRsohail said:
what a prediction..do more and sleep well..
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nothing bizzare about that prediction. it can very much happen. and it happened in india's last game. here we are talking about hasan ali not wasim akram. he went for over 100 runs in a game sometime recently.
 
thehub said:
nothing bizzare about that prediction. it can very much happen. and it happened in india's last game. here we are talking about hasan ali not wasim akram. he went for over 100 runs in a game sometime recently.
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When?
 
Blitz said:
A lot had to do with Wahab Riaz going for 10 an over. It just cranks up the pressure on everyone else, and gives the batsman a lot more confidence to hit out.

The man is and was a virus for the cricket. Has been for years.

I fully expect a much better performance from Hasan Ali now.
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This. Bowlers feed off each other's performances. Hassan got a lot of wickets when Amir was bowling a great over before him putting pressure on the batsmen. With no Wahab and hopefully less Imad bowling (surely sarfaraz cannot be that daft again to bowl Imad so much and so early again) iA they'll have a much better rhythm for their attack.
 
Boi said:
He was bowling well against India until the death overs. Was very unlucky not to get Yuvi with a lovely yorker which he inside edged for four. When dropped catches and close calls like that don't go your way, quality batsmen will cash in.
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Abdullah said:
Basically this.
He had 6 overs 21 runs. His 7th over was good but he bowled a great yorker which got inside edged for 4.
7 over for 30 runs.
He can do that again with a couple of wickets this time! InshaAllah
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Finally. Getting tired of listening to all the experts repeatedly say be bowled poorly against India. They seem to have forgotten that he actually bowled well in his first seven overs, and only bowled three bad overs.
 
DRsohail said:
but i see a different hassan ali..then kohli went on zero against srilanka,,..
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Hassan has been a revelation, but Junaid, Amir and Raees have allowed him to bowl with a lot more freedom. Wahab's rubbish bowling and mentally weak character really brought the whole team down this year on numerous occasions. These four would trust each other to play their role, while I doubt Wahab trusts himself to deliver on a matchday.
 
Ellipsism said:
He's gotten Root and Smith out a couple of times. Isn't that good enough for you?
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Kohli is the real deal. I was half joking though but really, if he performs well in the final as well I'll start believing he's the real deal. Even if he doesn't perform well, I obviously wont right him off. The talent is there but I've seen it all before: Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal, Nasir Jamshed. Talented players that never quite make it - that or he could be a real find like Mohammad Amir
 
I fully expect Hasan Ali to come good and live up to the hype.

I had my eye on him ever since he dropped that Yuvraj catch to see if it effected his confidence level in anyway. It didn't. Hence he comes across as a strong minded individual.
 
I fully expect Hasan Ali to come good and live up to the hype.

I had my eye on him ever since he dropped that Yuvraj catch to see if it effected his confidence level in anyway. It didn't. Hence he comes across as a strong minded individual.
 
Sirris said:
I fully expect Hasan Ali to come good and live up to the hype.

I had my eye on him ever since he dropped that Yuvraj catch to see if it effected his confidence level in anyway. It didn't. Hence he comes across as a strong minded individual.
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You can tell from his celebration he's a very strong minded individual.
 
Indian batsmen play the ball on merit until they get a feel of it. They play normal cricket by rotating strike, taking singles. Most of the time you won't even know Kohli is batting. Before you know he would be 45 of 45. With 20 runs to get BD bowled a rank long hop. Kohli played even that ball on the ground by rolling the wrist. They will make feel good about yourself as bowlers before exploding. You just hope all 3 of them make mistakes .
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Indian batsmen play the ball on merit until they get a feel of it. They play normal cricket by rotating strike, taking singles. Most of the time you won't even know Kohli is batting. Before you know he would be 45 of 45. With 20 runs to get BD bowled a rank long hop. Kohli played even that ball on the ground by rolling the wrist. They will make feel good about yourself as bowlers before exploding. You just hope all 3 of them make mistakes .
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The way you put it, is it not blasphemous to even think of them making a mistake?
 
There is a mental edge that seems to be with India every time they play Pakistan. They play with ease, we play with tension.

I fully believe this will be the case again, but to come this far should be lauded and Hasan Ali has been the revelation of the tourney. I expect him to play poorly due to that, but no one should hang their head in shame.
 
I don't mind how many runs he get as long as he takes crucial wickets. Even last time he would end up with wickets if he didn't drop that catch which took off the pressure from indian batsmen and they cashed in.
 
He was quite good in that game in his first 6 overs he went for 25 runs.
I expect babbar sher to knock Indian batsman with fast nippy deliveries. Expect him to pick up 2 wkts atleast for 40-45 runs.Yeah boy go and destroy Indian batting lineup
 
hasan was pretty mediocre on flat pitch vs india

would be interesting to see him on flat track again against india
 
If Hasan is having a mediocre day, then you can bet your bottom dollar that Pakistan isn't going to win. Some players lift the entire team with their performance. Hasan is that type of player.


He is also such a lovable character. Humble yet aggressive and with an "at you" attitude. He has all the ingredients to be a superstar.


This team has atleast three of four potential superstars, namely Fakhar, Babar, Amir, Shadab and Hasan.
 
I wouldn't say he failed in the first match either I would just say he needed a bit of time to get in the groove of things.

He is going to demolish the Indian line-up this time!
 
Macho Mann said:
hasan was pretty mediocre on flat pitch vs india

would be interesting to see him on flat track again against india
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Yeah I know right like he got to bowl on absolute minefields that were making the bowl talk and walk for him! :)))

Hey you know what thanks to your comment I guess it makes sense why England's whole bowling line-up couldn't pick up as many wickets as Hasan ali! You know it was a green wicket after all which pakistan scored 215/2 at 5.5 rpo.
 
QalandarFan said:
Yeah I know right like he got to bowl on absolute minefields that were making the bowl talk and walk for him! :)))

Hey you know what thanks to your comment I guess it makes sense why England's whole bowling line-up couldn't pick up as many wickets as Hasan ali! You know it was a green wicket after all which pakistan scored 215/2 at 5.5 rpo.
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okay before any emotional outbusrt, i do consider hasan ali as one of the best fast bowlers, so if you are a hasan ali fan or fanatic maybe, let me be clear i think he is an amazing bowler on pitches which offer something to a fast bowler

any seam, pacer can flop on a flat pitch aside styn, starc etc, i do think that hasan lacks a consistent good line bowling, which may trouble him on flat tracks
 
srh said:
If the law of averages catch up to him then he will have another bad game against India.
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Hahahahahaha! :))) :)))

Yes yes, sorry it took me a while to gather myself together from your hilarious joke.

If we are gonna talk about law of averages then every Pakistani batsman will do well and every Indian batsman in the top 4 is gonna fail. What kind of logic is this!

I'll just take this one as a joke. :))) I still can't control myself from laughing when reading that! :)))
 
Macho Mann said:
okay before any emotional outbusrt, i do consider hasan ali as one of the best fast bowlers, so if you are a hasan ali fan or fanatic maybe, let me be clear i think he is an amazing bowler on pitches which offer something to a fast bowler

any seam, pacer can flop on a flat pitch aside styn, starc etc, i do think that hasan lacks a consistent good line bowling, which may trouble him on flat tracks
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Key word there is - think. :)

I'm not even going to begin to argue with you about Hassan's bowling because I've done to much of that on the Babar Azam thread.
 
QalandarFan said:
Yeah as if you are a terrible bowler is you have one bad match. Yep making total sense now.
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i have only seen hasan ali in CT never seen him before, so my opinions are only based on four matches pak played in CT and in one match vs india only, there was flat track
 
Macho Mann said:
i have only seen hasan ali in CT never seen him before, so my opinions are only based on four matches pak played in CT and in one match vs india only, there was flat track
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Well in the recently concluded third test his debut test he picked up 3 wickets against West Indies when the wicket was doing absloutley nothing.

He also averaged 25 in Australia against Australia on absolute flat pitches. He picked up 12 wickets in 5 matches. With one 5-fee. Australia also scored 300+ twice in that series.

Then I'm UAE he averages 27 which are terrible pitches that are absloutley dead.

So can't say he doesn't perform on flat pitches because Australia probably has the flattest pitches in the world right now they are absloute roads and he was bowling to Australian batsman as well.
 
mak36 said:
Finally. Getting tired of listening to all the experts repeatedly say be bowled poorly against India. They seem to have forgotten that he actually bowled well in his first seven overs, and only bowled three bad overs.
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But he was allowed to bowl good early overs rather than he bowling well, how many opportunities did he create in those early overs, because i don't recall any, india had a simple gameplan go to the 40th over with not more than 2-3 wickets lost and then go bang bang and that is what happened, you bowl well when you create chances for your team, bowling economically because the other team isn't taking risks isn't good bowling.
 
Macho Mann said:
i have only seen hasan ali in CT never seen him before, so my opinions are only based on four matches pak played in CT and in one match vs india only, there was flat track
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And then you form a conclusion, excellent logic.
 
Syed1 said:
If Hasan is having a mediocre day, then you can bet your bottom dollar that Pakistan isn't going to win. Some players lift the entire team with their performance. Hasan is that type of player.


He is also such a lovable character. Humble yet aggressive and with an "at you" attitude. He has all the ingredients to be a superstar.


This team has atleast three of four potential superstars, namely Fakhar, Babar, Amir, Shadab and Hasan.
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And Fakhar. Both Hasan and Fakhar needs to have a good day for Pakistan to have a chance. Pakistan is a heavy underdog for this match.
 
depends on the pitch. If it's a flat road then he will not have much of an impact. but if it is slow or has any reverse swing then India will be in trouble. Junaid and Hasan can be wicket taking if ball does reverse.
 
jagatk said:
But he was allowed to bowl good early overs rather than he bowling well, how many opportunities did he create in those early overs, because i don't recall any, india had a simple gameplan go to the 40th over with not more than 2-3 wickets lost and then go bang bang and that is what happened, you bowl well when you create chances for your team, bowling economically because the other team isn't taking risks isn't good bowling.
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Don't accept this at all. Yes India had a gameplan, but even before the 40th over they were still putting the bad balls away (Wahab Riaz's bowling is a case in point). So Hasan Ali wasn't "allowed" to bowl good early overs- rather he bowled good early overs and the batsmen played him accordingly.

In any case, we shall see what happens on Sunday. If his bowling in his last few performances is anything to go by, we are in for a cracker!
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Indian batsmen play the ball on merit until they get a feel of it. They play normal cricket by rotating strike, taking singles. Most of the time you won't even know Kohli is batting. Before you know he would be 45 of 45. With 20 runs to get BD bowled a rank long hop. Kohli played even that ball on the ground by rolling the wrist. They will make feel good about yourself as bowlers before exploding. You just hope all 3 of them make mistakes .
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Good observation! Nice post
 
mak36 said:
Don't accept this at all. Yes India had a gameplan, but even before the 40th over they were still putting the bad balls away (Wahab Riaz's bowling is a case in point). So Hasan Ali wasn't "allowed" to bowl good early overs- rather he bowled good early overs and the batsmen played him accordingly.

In any case, we shall see what happens on Sunday. If his bowling in his last few performances is anything to go by, we are in for a cracker!
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As i said you bowl well when you create chances, i don't recall ali ever troubling indian batsman. Unlike that kid spinner you have who actually bowled well, heck even wahab had a catch dropped of him, ali on the other hand had a bit of luck with him with him bowling his early overs just before and after rain breaks.
 
srh said:
In the first match against India Hasan Ali went for 70 runs in 10 overs (ER of 7) with only 1 wicket. Indian batsmen score 3 6s and 7 4s against him; they did not score that many 6s against any other seamer in that match. They targeted him as the weak link in Pakistan bowling.

Then he improved miles against South Africa and in 8 overs only give 24 runs (ER of 3) and get 3 wickets. Only allow 1 4s and no 6s.

Then he shined again against Sri Lanka and in 10 overs only give 43 runs (ER of 4.3) and get 3 wickets. Allow 4 4s and no 6s.

Then he shined again against England and in 10 overs only give 35 runs (ER of 3.5) and get 3 wickets. Allow 2 4s and no 6s.

So he has only failed against India. Only Indian batsmen were able to hit 6s against him. Will he fail again against them or will he have his revenge? What will be his bowling figures in final?
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Hasan Ali was actually good against India. First 6 overs were very cheap. Yuvraj and Kohli going crazy in last few overs is a situation no bowler in the world can handle. I watched, even when he was getting hit, 4/6 of his deliveries were perfect yorkers.
 
jagatk said:
As i said you bowl well when you create chances, i don't recall ali ever troubling indian batsman. Unlike that kid spinner you have who actually bowled well, heck even wahab had a catch dropped of him, ali on the other hand had a bit of luck with him with him bowling his early overs just before and after rain breaks.
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His economy rate in the first seven overs would suggest otherwise. In any case, today is the day! Let's see what happens.
 
Didn't have much to do against India thanks to Amir :)
 
Same people who are supporting him now were the ones calling him overhyped after his debut series.

Always backed him to come good.
 
For some reason, over the last couple of months it doesn't look like he's running in with 100% intensity or bowling at the same pace as he used to :(
 
He is a very good bowler but we need to be realistic - His 2017 form was a purple patch which is now over. He was bowling like an ATG ODI bowler which he is not. However, he is comfortably our best bowler.
 
He will get his revenge.

Our batsmen got lucky that Hasan was trundling today.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a very good bowler but we need to be realistic - His 2017 form was a purple patch which is now over. He was bowling like an ATG ODI bowler which he is not. However, he is comfortably our best bowler.
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That is a very fair assessment IMO
 
babajee said:
I'm not questioning his fitness.
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So are you questioning his intent in an Indo-Pak match? I don't think so.No Pakistani bowler would prefer to do that against their arch rival.Its mostly due to his fitness which was poor in England also.
 
So Hasan goes for runs and he becomes a bad bowler. After the fluke new term is purple patch. I mean sometimes people do paralysis of analysis but on PP certain posters are consistent:salute
 
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