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The Army Establishment and PML N and PPP institute fake murder, corruption charges against him and history repeats itself?
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Funny, 80s and 90s born pakistans hate bhutto saab because of the fake history they were taught and due to social media.
Ever since imran comapred himself to bhutto saab, these fpto fans are praising bhutto saab and even comparing imran to him....
It only proves that pti fans have no political ideology. They just pick up things as they move along
Bhutto saab made a constitution, plz dont even compare imran to him.
Bhutto saab issue wasnt usa, it was zia. If the issue was only to usa than zia would had not killed him as usa would had intervened
Funny, 80s and 90s born pakistans hate bhutto saab because of the fake history they were taught and due to social media.
Ever since imran comapred himself to bhutto saab, these fpto fans are praising bhutto saab and even comparing imran to him....
It only proves that pti fans have no political ideology. They just pick up things as they move along
Bhutto saab made a constitution, plz dont even compare imran to him.
Bhutto saab issue wasnt usa, it was zia. If the issue was only to usa than zia would had not killed him as usa would had intervened
I would like to tell you a few stories about ZAB and his lot but that would give away my background.
But for now read this
https://tribune.com.pk/article/7562...en-bhutto-divided-pakistan-into-east-and-west
and understand what a vile person he was and what he did to Pakistan.
You will then be right. Imran is nothing like Bhutto.
No chance. IK didn't murder anyone.
No one will ever suffer the end bestowed on Bhutto - hanged with ignominy and impunity.
He fully deserved to be hanged like an animal.
Henry Kissinger threatened Bhutto in no uncertain terms when the later refused to roll back on Pakistan's nuclear program i.e. "We will make a horrible example out of you". Then next we know, Bhutto called early elections, won a majority, the Pakistan National Alliance created unrest all over the country and the Pak Army took charge
You do know that the person who bhutto supposedly murder, that person never died.....
Never died? You mean like OBL?
Resorting to conspiracy theories now. Who'd have though it!
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IK is a bigger fish than Bhutto with more cult following nobody can dare handle hin like the deceased
Like i said, before coming here posting stuff like deserved to be hanged like an animal its better to do research.
The person he supposedly killed, that person never died.
Stop repeating yourself, doesn't make your claim any more true.
Present the evidence otherwise no one cares about your tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
Yes my bad, shouldn't compare Bhutto's death to animals, it would be an insult to animals.
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If you are truly interested, you can google the fir for which Bhutto saab was booked. You can read the name of the person he WAS SUPPOSE to kill, and how that person who was suppose to be killed was never killed.
Henry Kissinger threatened Bhutto in no uncertain terms when the later refused to roll back on Pakistan's nuclear program i.e. "We will make a horrible example out of you". Then next we know, Bhutto called early elections, won a majority, the Pakistan National Alliance created unrest all over the country and the Pak Army took charge
Every election in Pakistan has involved some degree of rigging, but the 1977 election by all accounts was quite blatant with Bhutto seeking a two-thirds majority.
The sad thing about Bhutto's trial is that he wasn't held accountable for the offences he did commit. He was intolerant of dissent with his paramilitary, the FSF, used to intimidate political opponents. He cracked down on the media with a series of ordinances.
As for East Pakistan, I admit I've been unfair on Bhutto regarding his role. I thought he deliberately stalled on Yahya's behalf and refused Mujib's rightful mandate based on what people have said.
However after reading Ayesha Jalal's Struggle for Pakistan, he was between a rock and a hard place. Mujib's Six Points was very difficult for any West Pakistani to accept, much less a Sindhi like Bhutto, especially having won many army constituencies in 1970. The bigger villain was Yahya, hellbent on military action against the Bengalis and cut the negotiations off. Bhutto's fiery language however didn't help.
I would like to tell you a few stories about ZAB and his lot but that would give away my background.
But for now read this
https://tribune.com.pk/article/7562...en-bhutto-divided-pakistan-into-east-and-west
and understand what a vile person he was and what he did to Pakistan.
You will then be right. Imran is nothing like Bhutto.
Every election in Pakistan has involved some degree of rigging, but the 1977 election by all accounts was quite blatant with Bhutto seeking a two-thirds majority.
The sad thing about Bhutto's trial is that he wasn't held accountable for the offences he did commit. He was intolerant of dissent with his paramilitary, the FSF, used to intimidate political opponents. He cracked down on the media with a series of ordinances.
As for East Pakistan, I admit I've been unfair on Bhutto regarding his role. I thought he deliberately stalled on Yahya's behalf and refused Mujib's rightful mandate based on what people have said.
However after reading Ayesha Jalal's Struggle for Pakistan, he was between a rock and a hard place. Mujib's Six Points was very difficult for any West Pakistani to accept, much less a Sindhi like Bhutto, especially having won many army constituencies in 1970. The bigger villain was Yahya, hellbent on military action against the Bengalis and cut the negotiations off. Bhutto's fiery language however didn't help.
Im glad that you have read ayesha jalals book that lead to you changing your opinion.
Many people when they critisize bhutto saab ignore the 6 points.
But [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] do you actually accept that he wanted to kill ahmad kasuri? If he did so, atleast they would not had missed.
An interesting point i would add about the FSF. It was a paramilitary force whose job was to protect the PM. This made sure that the army would not try to over throw civiliam govt.
The FSF was equivalent to USA special service.
Ever since FSF was removed, the protection to pm is given by 111 brigade of army. This is the same brigade that is involved in millitary coups, thus there loyalties will always lie towards the COAS.
Another interesting point, fSF was the only govt institute that was disbanded
The Army Establishment and PML N and PPP institute fake murder, corruption charges against him and history repeats itself?
I would like to tell you a few stories about ZAB and his lot but that would give away my background.
But for now read this
https://tribune.com.pk/article/7562...en-bhutto-divided-pakistan-into-east-and-west
and understand what a vile person he was and what he did to Pakistan.
You will then be right. Imran is nothing like Bhutto.
I would like to tell you a few stories about ZAB and his lot but that would give away my background.
But for now read this
https://tribune.com.pk/article/7562...en-bhutto-divided-pakistan-into-east-and-west
and understand what a vile person he was and what he did to Pakistan.
You will then be right. Imran is nothing like Bhutto.
Perhaps it all began when Muhammad Ali Jinnah, despite the hostility of the students of Dhaka University he was addressing, insisted that “Urdu and only Urdu” would be the state language of Pakistan. This was strange, since the Quaid himself could only speak broken Urdu and that too with great difficulty. I strongly suspect Jinnah wanted Urdu as the national language because he was under pressure from the feudal lords of West Pakistan to do so. The only other reason would be that he did not know that the vast majority of people in East Pakistan didn’t speak Urdu or even understood it, which seems highly unlikely.
Bhutto is the same guy whose thirst for power led to split of East Pakistan and formation of Bangladesh.
I wouldn't draw equivalence between FSF and US Secret Service. The Secret Service don't intimidate political opponents and journalists. The FSF overstepped its boundaries under Bhutto who, like many Sindhi feudal lords, didn't take kindly to dissent.
About the Kasuri case and how the coup was orchestrated - I recommend this interview with Lt Gen Faiz Chishti who was arguably its architect:
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Bhutto was not PM or President at the time. Regardless of what he might have said, the person in charge was the dictator Yahya Khan. He should get more blame than Bhutto.
1. Why do some posters make fun of broken Urdu of Bilawal Bhutto? Would they have made fund of Jinnah also for speaking broken Urdu?
2. It seems that first blunder and discrimnination was caused by Jinnah himself who forced Urdu on East Pakistanis despite himself being poor at it.
Of course, Yahya Khan is to be blamed too. But Bhutto is the one who endorsed the military veto and wanted power over West Pakistan.
Funny, 80s and 90s born pakistans hate bhutto saab because of the fake history they were taught and due to social media.
Ever since imran comapred himself to bhutto saab, these fpto fans are praising bhutto saab and even comparing imran to him....
It only proves that pti fans have no political ideology. They just pick up things as they move along
Bhutto saab made a constitution, plz dont even compare imran to him.
Bhutto saab issue wasnt usa, it was zia. If the issue was only to usa than zia would had not killed him as usa would had intervened
Bilawal Zardari speaks Urdu with a western accent. Its embarrassing.
Jinnah I am assuming could speak fluent Gujrati. So if he spoke with an accent that's one thing, he could speak at least one local language fluently. To give another example in Pakistan a lot of Punjabis speak with a Punjabi accent, people don't make fun of them because that is not their mother tongue.
Bilawal cant speak Sindhi. And I doubt he even knows one word of Balochi (Zardari is a Baloch tribe). The only language he can speak fluently is English.
Bengali was later made an official language of Pakistan. Even Jinnah's tomb has Bengali on it.
Thus began the process of poisoning relations between the two parts of the country. The Bengali speakers launched a movement to have their language recognised as the state language along with Urdu. After many deaths, they succeeded to have their demand accepted in 1956.
Got the first point.
About 2nd point, it was made official language much later.
They had to fight for their language to be accepted. First tone of discrimination and process of poisoning of relations (as mentioned in the article) was already set by Jinnah where it was made clear that they will be forced to follow west Pakistan and will have to fight for even obvious demands.
I wasn't aware of this part and discriminatory decision of Jinnah.
Henry Kissinger threatened Bhutto in no uncertain terms when the later refused to roll back on Pakistan's nuclear program i.e. "We will make a horrible example out of you". Then next we know, Bhutto called early elections, won a majority, the Pakistan National Alliance created unrest all over the country and the Pak Army took charge