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COAS General Asim Munir open to forgiving Imran Khan if apology offered

Major said:
MPs did remove him, but they kept stalling it, and he acted on Imran's advice.

Lol you and me dont decide the case, we have a supreme court sitting to do that.
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I've said a couple of times now that Imran is not accountable for how the Speaker acts, no matter what advice the former gives out. That's politics 101. Speaker is the one to be held accountable. You've totally ignored that point and mumbled something about Supreme Court agreeing with you.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't your SC notorious for siding with everything the Pak army does. They've legitimised every military coup in your country's 70 year history. It doesn't look like a very independent court to me.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Yup, I concur.

When Pakistan won the CT17 final, RizT20Champ’s mama was still wiping his nose.

He turned double digits and joined PP since.

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Not sure why you are having a go at me and dragging my family into it. That was actually Mrs. Technics wiping but not my nose when we won T20 WC 2009.

Dimmy will rot in jail. Burn.
 
IAJ said:
What constitution? The constitution your masters keep breaking. And you are calling IK hypocrite? What an irony.

Allah SWT jabb bhi kissi kou hidayat day, who are you to judge IK? 80-90 % of the population is with IK, that's what matters most.
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My master? You are confusing me with Dimmy tards. I recognise no human master. 80-90 percent nonsense again. If 90% of 200+ million were with him, he would not still be rotting in jail. Apart from a few jobless uncles in Alum Rock no one cares about him.
 
Bewal Express said:
I stopped engaging with you because you are an RSS troll

So when are we going to see the CCTV in court. Where is it. you claimed they were stand alone machines. And it this point you tap out and run off
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The only Hindvata troll is you. I owned you time and again and you had no answer and you started this gimmick after I owned you in the thread of MN's achievements and UK remittances. Does it ring a bell?

The CCTVs were sabotaged by your heroes. This is well documented.
 
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LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ
  1. My Government is not Pakistan
  2. My citizenship is not Pakistan
  3. My ethnicity is not Pakistan
  4. Please convince me as an independent Muslim that Imran Khan broke the law and provide evidence.
Thanks
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Dear brother and AI,

I don't much care about your nationality no offense. The burden of proof is on you here. IK is in jail, convicted by our courts/patriots and was kicked out of office by the local population. If you believe all that is wrong, provide evidence. I will wait.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Why did you run away to UK? Come back home, MN has new schemes for the underprivileged - Mrs. Technics can be her house help or something.
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Insecure pleb.

I wasn't refering to you by name but you've proven you will jump when you hear a whistle. Woof woof.

Bore off Cult troll.
 
Expose them all, these cult shills have infiltrated all walks of life, just like Zionists. They add nothing to the discussion other than what they are paid to say by their Swatsika masters.

It's so obvious who they are.

😎
 
PTI cult brigade really needs to be stopped and I am glad people are seeing through them now. Treasonous comments and views echoing those from across the border need to be stamped out.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
The only Hindvata troll is you. I owned you time and again and you had no answer and you started this gimmick after I owned you in the thread of MN's achievements and UK remittances. Does it ring a bell?

The CCTVs were sabotaged by your heroes. This is well documented.
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So you believe the CCTV was sabotaged🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😍😂😂😂😂
 
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PTI supporters are badly caught between criticizing Munir for locking up Imran and praising him for humiliating India. They don’t know where to hide.
 
Mamoon said:
PTI supporters are badly caught between criticizing Munir for locking up Imran and praising him for humiliating India. They don’t know where to hide.
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Sadly I am not sure anyone is praising the patriots from PTI side. They are echoing Indian posters. See the posts of Technics, Bewal and others straight out of the Indian poster Devdal handbook.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Dear brother and AI,

I don't much care about your nationality no offense. The burden of proof is on you here. IK is in jail, convicted by our courts/patriots and was kicked out of office by the local population. If you believe all that is wrong, provide evidence. I will wait.
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Dear Brother,

The burden of proof is indeed on the claimer.
  1. I am claiming that Imran Khan is not corrupt
  2. I have provided post upon post of evidence to proof that he is not corrupt.

Versus:
  1. You are claiming that Imran Khan is corrupt
  2. Where is your evidence?
Thanks
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother,

The burden of proof is indeed on the claimer.
  1. I am claiming that Imran Khan is not corrupt
  2. I have provided post upon post of evidence to proof that he is not corrupt.

Versus:
  1. You are claiming that Imran Khan is corrupt
  2. Where is your evidence?
Thanks
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Dear Brother and AI,

The status quo is that Imran is in jail as a result of his wrong doing. Convicted by the Court of Law in Pakistan and disowned by the people as evidenced by the elections. This is the status quo. If you are saying the Court made a mistake, please provide evidence.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Dear Brother and AI,

The status quo is that Imran is in jail as a result of his wrong doing. Convicted by the Court of Law in Pakistan and disowned by the people as evidenced by the elections. This is the status quo. If you are saying the Court made a mistake, please provide evidence.
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Dear Brother,

Nelson Mandela was in Jail for 27 years, doesn't mean he was guilty!
  1. You asked me to provide evidence of 'non-corruption" of Imran Khan and I have, case by case, incident by incident. I already have answered and in detail.
  2. Please provide evidence of corruption of Imran Khan
Thanks for your time.
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother,

Nelson Mandela was in Jail for 27 years, doesn't mean he was guilty!
  1. You asked me to provide evidence of 'non-corruption" of Imran Khan and I have, case by case, incident by incident. I already have answered and in detail.
  2. Please provide evidence of corruption of Imran Khan
Thanks for your time.
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Was Mandela in jail for corruption and subverting Constitution? Don't obfuscate. By your own admission you have no connection to Pakistan so if you say you don't trust our Courts that is your choice, but don't pass it off as fact. If you have evidence to challenge status quo let us see it. If there is clear evidence of IK's innocence as you claim he should be out soon I guess?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Was Mandela in jail for corruption and subverting Constitution? Don't obfuscate. By your own admission you have no connection to Pakistan so if you say you don't trust our Courts that is your choice, but don't pass it off as fact. If you have evidence to challenge status quo let us see it. If there is clear evidence of IK's innocence as you claim he should be out soon I guess?
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ
  1. Here is your post stating that Imran Khan is guilty of Treason and you repeat here
  2. Nelson Mandela was accused of Treason in 1956, overturned in 1961
  3. He was arrested again in 1964 and tried known as Rivona Trial and found guilty of Sabotage, Treason and Conspiracy to overthrow the Government and then falsely spent 27 years in Jail
Now that we have settled Nelson Mandela, lets get back to the topic.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan

Thanks
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ
  1. My Government is not Pakistan
  2. My citizenship is not Pakistan
  3. My ethnicity is not Pakistan
  4. Please convince me as an independent Muslim that Imran Khan broke the law and provide evidence.
Thanks
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Brother, with due respect, I must request that you refrain from involving yourself in our internal affairs. I regret to inform you that you are not a party to this matter. It may be more constructive for you to concentrate on addressing the issues within Afghanistan.
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ
  1. Here is your post stating that Imran Khan is guilty of Treason and you repeat here
  2. Nelson Mandela was accused of Treason in 1956, overturned in 1961
  3. He was arrested again in 1964 and tried known as Rivona Trial and found guilty of Sabotage, Treason and Conspiracy to overthrow the Government and then falsely spent 27 years in Jail
Now that we have settled Nelson Mandela, lets get back to the topic.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan

Thanks
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Dear Brother/AI,

I have said our Courts have found him guilty. If you have solid evidence to the contrary, surely you can help in releasing IK? Or, does that not interest you?
 
emranabbas said:
Brother, with due respect, I must request that you refrain from involving yourself in our internal affairs. I regret to inform you that you are not a party to this matter. It may be more constructive for you to concentrate on addressing the issues within Afghanistan.
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Does Afghanistan have ChatGPT?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Dear Brother/AI,

I have said our Courts have found him guilty. If you have solid evidence to the contrary, surely you can help in releasing IK? Or, does that not interest you?
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ,
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
emranabbas said:
Brother, with due respect, I must request that you refrain from involving yourself in our internal affairs. I regret to inform you that you are not a party to this matter. It may be more constructive for you to concentrate on addressing the issues within Afghanistan.
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Dear Brothers,

It is good to have a principle as long as you are willing to obey it yourself.
  1. Since you are residents of Pakistan
  2. You have no right to involve yourself in any other discussions such as India, USA, UK, Afghanistan or anybody else.
Please agree that you will follow your own principle and we will go from there.


Thanks

RizwanT20Champ said:
Does Afghanistan have ChatGPT?
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

I do not know. I have complied with your request
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan

Thanks
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Hindvata youthiya troll, talk respectfully or stay in Alum Rock
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Beghairat. You are an RSS troll. For you to even claim that the CCTV was stolen makes our millitary look incompetent. For you to claim these are stand alone machines shows what rabbit hole you have been brought up in. It doesnt take much for idiots to show their idiocy.🤣🤣🤣
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ,
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan


Dear Brothers,

It is good to have a principle as long as you are willing to obey it yourself.
  1. Since you are residents of Pakistan
  2. You have no right to involve yourself in any other discussions such as India, USA, UK, Afghanistan or anybody else.
Please agree that you will follow your own principle and we will go from there.


Thanks



Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

I do not know. I have complied with your request
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan

Thanks
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Bro, I am not going to go around in circles.

Status quo: Courts have evidence and they have convicted the criminal who is rotting in jail.
AI James: He is innocent because I said so

Please provide your evidence to the Court and have IK released. If you manage to do this we can agree that I was wrong about IK.

Thanks and warm regards.
 
Bewal Express said:
Beghairat. You are an RSS troll. For you to even claim that the CCTV was stolen makes our millitary look incompetent. For you to claim these are stand alone machines shows what rabbit hole you have been brought up in. It doesnt take much for idiots to show their idiocy.🤣🤣🤣
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What standalone machines? I never said anything about standalone machines Hindvata youthiya beghairat (see I can do it too uncle).
 
Mamoon said:
PTI supporters are badly caught between criticizing Munir for locking up Imran and praising him for humiliating India. They don’t know where to hide.
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Of course you’re confused when someone has morals and principles. It’s known as a moral quandary or battling with your conscience.

I bet if someone coloured it in crayon you’d still struggle to understand the concept.
 
Boyka said:
Of course you’re confused when someone has morals and principles. It’s known as a moral quandary or battling with your conscience.

I bet if someone coloured it in crayon you’d still struggle to understand the concept.
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PTI social benefit dependent thugs like @Bewal Express abuse patriots and use the same language for them as Indians do....don't defend it.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Bro, I am not going to go around in circles.

Status quo: Courts have evidence and they have convicted the criminal who is rotting in jail.
AI James: He is innocent because I said so

Please provide your evidence to the Court and have IK released. If you manage to do this we can agree that I was wrong about IK.

Thanks and warm regards.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

So you don't have any evidence of Imran Khan's corruption at all.
As far as Pakistani court system is concerned:
  1. March 18, 1978: Courts in Pakistan tried Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and awarded him the Death Penalty
  2. March 06, 2024: Courts in Pakistan stated that Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was not given a "Fair Trial"
May Allah Ta'ala bless you, your family and your loved ones (Ameen).

I appreciate you taking the time to engage on the topic.
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brothers,

It is good to have a principle as long as you are willing to obey it yourself.
  1. Since you are residents of Pakistan
  2. You have no right to involve yourself in any other discussions such as India, USA, UK, Afghanistan or anybody else.
Please agree that you will follow your own principle and we will go from there.


Thanks
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Brothers, this seems less like a discussion about Imran Khan and more like a defense of him. There is an important difference between open conversation and creating repeated threads on an issue that doesn’t directly concern you, unless, of course, you feel a connection through shared Pashtun identity. May I ask, would the same level of concern be shown if it were another politician who was not Pashtun?
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

So you don't have any evidence of Imran Khan's corruption at all.
As far as Pakistani court system is concerned:
  1. March 18, 1978: Courts in Pakistan tried Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and awarded him the Death Penalty
  2. March 06, 2024: Courts in Pakistan stated that Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was not given a "Fair Trial"
May Allah Ta'ala bless you, your family and your loved ones (Ameen).

I appreciate you taking the time to engage on the topic.
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Not sure why you are talking about ZAB or Mandela or whoever. Talk about IK. if you have evidence send it to the Court.
 
emranabbas said:
Brothers, this seems less like a discussion about Imran Khan and more like a defense of him. There is an important difference between open conversation and creating repeated threads on an issue that doesn’t directly concern you, unless, of course, you feel a connection through shared Pashtun identity. May I ask, would the same level of concern be shown if it were another politician who was not Pashtun?
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I am sure he has a poster of Pashteen
 
Bewal Express said:
BTW the cases have been going for 3 years. Can you show me when they claimed this as a defense in court. Come on gorm. Its no wonder you took a year to come up with such a crock of turd.
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beghairat, prove your lies first. Where did I claim they were stolen or said anything about standalone machines? Youthiya hindvata
 
emranabbas said:
Brothers, this seems less like a discussion about Imran Khan and more like a defense of him. There is an important difference between open conversation and creating repeated threads on an issue that doesn’t directly concern you, unless, of course, you feel a connection through shared Pashtun identity. May I ask, would the same level of concern be shown if it were another politician who was not Pashtun?
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The love is not for Pakistan but for IK. For IK/PTI cultists this is a pattern we see often. I sometimes wonder just how much Reham knew more but preferred to keep silent.
 
Bewal Express said:
Come on gorm. You called our millitary useless by saying they allowed the CCTV to be stolen like some shop. I am a critic but only an RSS troll would think that.
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Where did I say they were stolen, Rotherham groomer? You are a liar just like your IK. May he keep burning in prison haha!
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

So you don't have any evidence of Imran Khan's corruption at all.
As far as Pakistani court system is concerned:
  1. March 18, 1978: Courts in Pakistan tried Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and awarded him the Death Penalty
  2. March 06, 2024: Courts in Pakistan stated that Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was not given a "Fair Trial"
May Allah Ta'ala bless you, your family and your loved ones (Ameen).

I appreciate you taking the time to engage on the topic.
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Brother, I have already shared with you the court findings and the reasons why Imran Khan was sentenced, but you chose to ignore them. You may also ask your friend ChatGPT, and it will present you with the same court findings and the evidence that was submitted in court. better do your homework
 
emranabbas said:
Brother, I have already shared with you the court findings and the reasons why Imran Khan was sentenced, but you chose to ignore them. You may also ask your friend ChatGPT, and it will present you with the same court findings and the evidence that was submitted in court. better do your homework
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Maybe ChatGPT doesn't work properly in Afghanistan.
 
emranabbas said:
Brothers, this seems less like a discussion about Imran Khan and more like a defense of him. There is an important difference between open conversation and creating repeated threads on an issue that doesn’t directly concern you, unless, of course, you feel a connection through shared Pashtun identity. May I ask, would the same level of concern be shown if it were another politician who was not Pashtun?
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Dear Brother @emranabbas

Islam has nothing to do with someone being Pushtun or not. Here is the post yesterday about @RizwanT20Champ. Here is @Major appreciation.

I am not showing it "for appreciation", I am showing you that as "Muslims" we should speak the truth.

Yes.

Thanks

RizwanT20Champ said:
Not sure why you are talking about ZAB or Mandela or whoever. Talk about IK. if you have evidence send it to the Court.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

Agreed.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
Thanks

emranabbas said:
Brother, I have already shared with you the court findings and the reasons why Imran Khan was sentenced, but you chose to ignore them. You may also ask your friend ChatGPT, and it will present you with the same court findings and the evidence that was submitted in court. better do your homework
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Dear Brother @emranabbas

You have not, you have superficially quoted news coverage.
Pick an issue and I trust you to be an upright, honest Muslim and lets engage in detail on a topic of your choice. I have not insulted you, not disrespected you, lets engage on a topic of your choice and have a discussion.

Lets show our religion and our manners which our Parents have taught us.

Thanks for your time.

RizwanT20Champ said:
The love is not for Pakistan but for IK. For IK/PTI cultists this is a pattern we see often. I sometimes wonder just how much Reham knew more but preferred to keep silent.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

Dozens of threads which have nothing to do Imran Khan and here is specifically on the defense of Pakistan and here are other topics:

IMMY69

Post in thread 'What’s the Most Beautiful Place You’ve Ever Visited—And Why?'

Technics 1210 said:
Our last international holiday was in 2019. Since then we’ve been on a UK ‘staycation’ every year, sometimes even twice a year.

We bought a brand new Nissan X-Trail (7 seater) in 2020, loaded it up with a Bose sound system, all the extras.

Only radio station allowed is Talksport.

Only choons allowed (driver’s playlist) - 99% of the time its me.

Phones switched off.

I spy with my litte eye!

My favourite parts are when I drive without the sat nav and trying to explain to the fam there was a time when we used AtoZ, wrote down our route, and if we got stuck we headed straight to the...
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LordJames

Thread 'How to reform Pakistan Army?'

For over 70 years Pakistan Army has ruled Pakistan like their personal fiefdom and sucked the people of Pakistan dry and separated them from their hard earned money.

Releasing Imran Khan (or XYZ) won't make any difference to Pakistan unless and until there are meaningful reforms in the structure of Pakistan Army to prevent ruling by a single person. It doesn't matter whether the COAS is a saint or sinner this position holds too much power. His powers need to be curbed without compromising the fighting strength of Pakistan Army as it is vital for the defense of Pakistan.

In my opinion...​
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LordJames

Thread 'Questions from Muslims about Islam & Life Thread'

There are several threads on questions from non-Muslims, this thread is from Muslim perspective about queries and curiosities.

I don't know many people on this forum but if non-Muslims post in this thread, I will report it as this thread is not be polluted.
  • Like
  • Sad
  • Haha

Etc etc etc

I appreciate you taking the time to ask.

RizwanT20Champ said:
Maybe ChatGPT doesn't work properly in Afghanistan.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

I don't know the connection between you claiming "Corruption of Imran Khan" and ChatGpt in Afghanistan but if this issue is stopping you from discussing Imran Khan let me know and I can research and find the answer for you so you can then discuss Imran Khan.

Thanks
 
I have never supported any political party and have advocated for the separation between Government and Armed Forces. However seeing the lies and the utter levels of delusion from PTI supporters I am going to say it is good we have PDM now. They are not without fault but much much better at making a naya Pakistan than the sham promised by IK. It is also essentially that culprits are brought to justice as in the case of IK so interference is fine in my view.
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @emranabbas

Islam has nothing to do with someone being Pushtun or not. Here is the post yesterday about @RizwanT20Champ. Here is @Major appreciation.

I am not showing it "for appreciation", I am showing you that as "Muslims" we should speak the truth.

Yes.

Thanks



Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

Agreed.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
Thanks



Dear Brother @emranabbas

You have not, you have superficially quoted news coverage.
Pick an issue and I trust you to be an upright, honest Muslim and lets engage in detail on a topic of your choice. I have not insulted you, not disrespected you, lets engage on a topic of your choice and have a discussion.

Lets show our religion and our manners which our Parents have taught us.

Thanks for your time.



Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

Dozens of threads which have nothing to do Imran Khan and here is specifically on the defense of Pakistan and here are other topics:

IMMY69

Post in thread 'What’s the Most Beautiful Place You’ve Ever Visited—And Why?'

Technics 1210 said:
Our last international holiday was in 2019. Since then we’ve been on a UK ‘staycation’ every year, sometimes even twice a year.

We bought a brand new Nissan X-Trail (7 seater) in 2020, loaded it up with a Bose sound system, all the extras.

Only radio station allowed is Talksport.

Only choons allowed (driver’s playlist) - 99% of the time its me.

Phones switched off.

I spy with my litte eye!

My favourite parts are when I drive without the sat nav and trying to explain to the fam there was a time when we used AtoZ, wrote down our route, and if we got stuck we headed straight to the...
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LordJames

Thread 'How to reform Pakistan Army?'

For over 70 years Pakistan Army has ruled Pakistan like their personal fiefdom and sucked the people of Pakistan dry and separated them from their hard earned money.

Releasing Imran Khan (or XYZ) won't make any difference to Pakistan unless and until there are meaningful reforms in the structure of Pakistan Army to prevent ruling by a single person. It doesn't matter whether the COAS is a saint or sinner this position holds too much power. His powers need to be curbed without compromising the fighting strength of Pakistan Army as it is vital for the defense of Pakistan.

In my opinion...​
  • Like

LordJames

Thread 'Questions from Muslims about Islam & Life Thread'

There are several threads on questions from non-Muslims, this thread is from Muslim perspective about queries and curiosities.

I don't know many people on this forum but if non-Muslims post in this thread, I will report it as this thread is not be polluted.
  • Like
  • Sad
  • Haha

Etc etc etc

I appreciate you taking the time to ask.



Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

I don't know the connection between you claiming "Corruption of Imran Khan" and ChatGpt in Afghanistan but if this issue is stopping you from discussing Imran Khan let me know and I can research and find the answer for you so you can then discuss Imran Khan.

Thanks
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Send your evidence to the Courts. If worthy I am sure IK will be released. Do you accept?
 
emranabbas said:
Brother, I have already shared with you the court findings and the reasons why Imran Khan was sentenced, but you chose to ignore them. You may also ask your friend ChatGPT, and it will present you with the same court findings and the evidence that was submitted in court. better do your homework
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Did you share the fact that the Judge had Judgements against him. Can you share them here
 
Boyka said:
Of course you’re confused when someone has morals and principles. It’s known as a moral quandary or battling with your conscience.

I bet if someone coloured it in crayon you’d still struggle to understand the concept.
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The irony of PTI supporters accusing others of lacking morals and principles.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I have never supported any political party and have advocated for the separation between Government and Armed Forces. However seeing the lies and the utter levels of delusion from PTI supporters I am going to say it is good we have PDM now. They are not without fault but much much better at making a naya Pakistan than the sham promised by IK. It is also essentially that culprits are brought to justice as in the case of IK so interference is fine in my view.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

So if in your opinion there should be separation between Government and Armed Forces for the betterment of Pakistan. Are you willing to sacrifice the betterment of Pakistan for the sake of PTI supporters?

You are willing to throw away what you think is best for Pakistan for people?

Please clarify.

Thanks

RizwanT20Champ said:
Send your evidence to the Courts. If worthy I am sure IK will be released. Do you accept?
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

But we are not in a Court, we are on a forum and you said that the claimant should provide evidence.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
You and @emranabbas are requested to pick a topic and start the discussion displaying the good behavior taught to us by Islam, our Parents and society.

Pick a topic of your choice and lets discuss.

Thanks

Mamoon said:
The irony of PTI supporters accusing others of lacking morals and principles.
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Dr @Mamoon

Pick a topic of your choice and lets discuss. Please display your morals and principles.

Thanks
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Where did I say they were stolen, Rotherham groomer? You are a liar just like your IK. May he keep burning in prison haha!
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So what happened to them? 🤣🤣🤣🥰

Only an RSS troll would pretend to defend the Millitary and at the same time ridicule them. Come on gorm tell us what happened to the CCTV.
 
LordJames said:
Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

So if in your opinion there should be separation between Government and Armed Forces for the betterment of Pakistan. Are you willing to sacrifice the betterment of Pakistan for the sake of PTI supporters?

You are willing to throw away what you think is best for Pakistan for people?

Please clarify.

Thanks


Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

But we are not in a Court, we are on a forum and you said that the claimant should provide evidence.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
You and @emranabbas are requested to pick a topic and start the discussion displaying the good behavior taught to us by Islam, our Parents and society.

Pick a topic of your choice and lets discuss.

Thanks



Dr @Mamoon

Pick a topic of your choice and lets discuss. Please display your morals and principles.

Thanks
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If your evidence holds in Court of Law, then surely it should be accepted. I accept the Court's Verdict - if you don't the burden of proof is on you. If you have something quantifiable then send to to every Court in the world and news channels...

I don't want to sacrifice the betterment of Pak, but sometimes you need to make some compromises to make sure evil doesn't reign supreme. If the compromise is interference to ensure IK is kicked out from the system then so be it.
 
Bewal Express said:
So what happened to them? 🤣🤣🤣🥰

Only an RSS troll would pretend to defend the Millitary and at the same time ridicule them. Come on gorm tell us what happened to the CCTV.
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So you accept you were lying them beghairat? You claimed I said they were stolen and some nonsense about stand alone machines. Don't take your frustration out here that you could not be in the place of Bushra.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
So you accept you were lying them beghairat? You claimed I said they were stolen and some nonsense about stand alone machines. Don't take your frustration out here that you could not be in the place of Bushra.
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No you gorm. You have avoided the question for a year and then you come with some phuddu story that they dont even claim. So beghairat where is the CCTV. If it wasn't stolen and modern militaries dont have just a cameras that can be just stolen without any prior recording of them being stolen( and if that happened where is the record of that) then what happened. You are a total RSS phuddu that has no idea how these work.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
If your evidence holds in Court of Law, then surely it should be accepted. I accept the Court's Verdict - if you don't the burden of proof is on you. If you have something quantifiable then send to to every Court in the world and news channels...

I don't want to sacrifice the betterment of Pak, but sometimes you need to make some compromises to make sure evil doesn't reign supreme. If the compromise is interference to ensure IK is kicked out from the system then so be it.
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Dear @RizwanT20Champ

I am not in a Court, I am on a Forum.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
On a Forum, you asked for the Claimant to provide evidence which I have.

The Court system is not Allah and can be biased as I have shown examples of:
  1. Nelson Mandela, outside Pakistan
  2. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, inside Pakistan
You, @emranabbas and @Mamoon are requested to pick a topic of your choice and discuss the issue from the thread above displaying the professionalism, knowledge and mannerism taught to you by Islam, your Parents and your Society.

I have not disrespected any of you, not slandered any of you, not made fun of any of you and remained civil and civilized.

Waiting for a polite and courteous discussion on Imran Khan from any of you. If you don't want to, that's also fine but you keep engaging, I have already made Dua for you and wish you the best of luck in life.

Thanks
 
Bewal Express said:
No you gorm. You have avoided the question for a year and then you come with some phuddu story that they dont even claim. So beghairat where is the CCTV. If it wasn't stolen and modern militaries dont have just a cameras that can be just stolen without any prior recording of them being stolen( and if that happened where is the record of that) then what happened. You are a total RSS phuddu that has no idea how these work.
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Hindvata beghairat, I exepct no more from a youthiya Rotherham groomer who keeps insulting patriots but is now cornerned after getting exposed. Learn the meaning of the word SABOTAGE. Hard for Alum Rock graduates I know. You are a clueless troll who wishes he was Bushra or Reham or Jemima.
 
LordJames said:
Dear @RizwanT20Champ

I am not in a Court, I am on a Forum.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • Please provide evidence of your claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan
On a Forum, you asked for the Claimant to provide evidence which I have.

The Court system is not Allah and can be biased as I have shown examples of:
  1. Nelson Mandela, outside Pakistan
  2. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, inside Pakistan
You, @emranabbas and @Mamoon are requested to pick a topic of your choice and discuss the issue from the thread above displaying the professionalism, knowledge and mannerism taught to you by Islam, your Parents and your Society.

I have not disrespected any of you, not slandered any of you, not made fun of any of you and remained civil and civilized.

Waiting for a polite and courteous discussion on Imran Khan from any of you. If you don't want to, that's also fine but you keep engaging, I have already made Dua for you and wish you the best of luck in life.

Thanks
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Dear AI brother,

If your evidence is detailed, please formally send it to the International Court of Justice or some such body. I am sure with 80-90% of Pak populace behind IK, it will be taken seriously and IK will be sipping juice and eating black lentils by midmonth September.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Hindvata beghairat, I exepct no more from a youthiya Rotherham groomer who keeps insulting patriots but is now cornerned after getting exposed. Learn the meaning of the word SABOTAGE. Hard for Alum Rock graduates I know. You are a clueless troll who wishes he was Bushra or Reham or Jemima.
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Go back to your RSS rabbit hole and look for another excuse. This phuddu excuse can only come from some phuddu that has no idea how security works 🤣🤣🥰. This was why I rumbled you a long time ago.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Hindvata beghairat, I exepct no more from a youthiya Rotherham groomer who keeps insulting patriots but is now cornerned after getting exposed. Learn the meaning of the word SABOTAGE. Hard for Alum Rock graduates I know. You are a clueless troll who wishes he was Bushra or Reham or Jemima.
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So where is the video of the sabotage. Are you in your RSS rabbit hole saying our Millitary are so incompetent that they can't protect their security of Millitary bases. You are digging a hole you dont know how to get out of. And at no time have they claimed this.🤣🤣🤣🥰
 
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RizwanT20Champ said:
Dear AI brother,

If your evidence is detailed, please formally send it to the International Court of Justice or some such body. I am sure with 80-90% of Pak populace behind IK, it will be taken seriously and IK will be sipping juice and eating black lentils by midmonth September.
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Dear Brother @RizwanT20Champ

Not disrespected you, not called you names, not insulted you, not made fun of you. In fact neither you or @emranabbas or @Mamoon or @Major on the topic.
  • Here is my detailed evidence case by case that Imran Khan is not Corrupt
  • No evidence of claims of "Corruption" & "Treason" of Imran Khan has been provided and no engagement on any topic has been done.
My intention is never to humiliate any of you as you are all my Brothers in Islam.

With all that, I bid you all of you the best in this world and the next.

Thanks for your time.
 
emranabbas said:
Brothers, this seems less like a discussion about Imran Khan and more like a defense of him. There is an important difference between open conversation and creating repeated threads on an issue that doesn’t directly concern you, unless, of course, you feel a connection through shared Pashtun identity. May I ask, would the same level of concern be shown if it were another politician who was not Pashtun?
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I think you are telling on yourself here, it seems you believe IK is guilty and repeat the same things about him because of his ethnicity without any real evidence or proof. I’d happily support any non Pashtun if he wasn’t tainted with any links to corruption or came from a dynastic political background. It’s a very low bar we have with Imran Khan.

It was a mistake of IK to appease the TTP and Afghans, the Punjabi establishment would always look to the US for help restoring order as they have done for decades. The Afghans cannot be trusted to rein any Talib in, this causes innocents to die in Pakistan and threatens Pakistans territorial integrity. Open borders don’t work in modern nation states sadly.
 
Boyka said:
I think you are telling on yourself here, it seems you believe IK is guilty and repeat the same things about him because of his ethnicity without any real evidence or proof. I’d happily support any non Pashtun if he wasn’t tainted with any links to corruption or came from a dynastic political background. It’s a very low bar we have with Imran Khan.

It was a mistake of IK to appease the TTP and Afghans, the Punjabi establishment would always look to the US for help restoring order as they have done for decades. The Afghans cannot be trusted to rein any Talib in, this causes innocents to die in Pakistan and threatens Pakistans territorial integrity. Open borders don’t work in modern nation states sadly.
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No, not at all am I telling myself anything, His guilt was proven in court that’s a matter of record, not my personal opinion. I get you’re struggling to accept it because you’re a hardcore supporter of his party and a fan of his that really isn't my problem. Im not really a conspiracy theory type of person.

I also get that you’d like to involve yourself in Pakistan’s politics, but as an Afghan, this isn’t really your place. It’s best left to Pakistanis to debate and deal with our own justice system flaws and all.

Thanks
 
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No, not at all am I telling myself anything, His guilt was proven in court that’s a matter of record, not my personal opinion. I get you’re struggling to accept it because you’re a hardcore supporter of his party and a fan of his that really isn't my problem. Im not really a conspiracy theory type of person.

I also get that you’d like to involve yourself in Pakistan’s politics, but as an Afghan, this isn’t really your place. It’s best left to Pakistanis to debate and deal with our own justice system flaws and all.

What we don’t appreciate an outsider especially those who are stuck right up inside indias backside pointing fingers at our internal matters.

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You believe the court systems and the political structure in Pakistan is fair. You are at best ignorant or at worst deluded beyond reason.

What are you taking about, I’m an Afghan? I think you are the one with the problem here. Are you a Punjabi or Mirpuri? Is that why you’re constantly defending Asim Munir and co? See how easy it is to play this game?

We need to look beyond sectarian divisions before we can achieve anything as a nation.
 
Boyka said:
You believe the court systems and the political structure in Pakistan is fair. You are at best ignorant or at worst deluded beyond reason.
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So basically, when something goes in Imran Khan’s favour, it’s considered fair, but the moment it doesn’t, suddenly it’s unfair? Got it

Boyka said:
What are you taking about, I’m an Afghan? I think you are the one with the problem here. Are you a Punjabi or Mirpuri? Is that why you’re constantly defending Asim Munir and co? See how easy it is to play this game?

We need to look beyond sectarian divisions before we can achieve anything as a nation.
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Oh bhai, I was in the middle of a conversation with someone from Afghanistan. If it doesn’t concern you at all, then why are you in with your irrelevant chatter? And, as usual, when it comes to replying back, you immediately start throwing your toys out of the pram like a child having a tantrum.

do you even have the ability to read and properly understand English, or is comprehension a problem for you?
 
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emranabbas said:
So basically, when something goes in Imran Khan’s favour, it’s considered fair, but the moment it doesn’t, suddenly it’s unfair? Got it



Oh bhai, I was in the middle of a conversation with someone from Afghanistan. If it doesn’t concern you at all, then why are you butting in with your irrelevant chatter? And, as usual, when it comes to replying back, you immediately start throwing your toys out of the pram like a child having a tantrum.

do you even have the ability to read and properly understand English, or is comprehension a problem for you?
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You quoted me after I responded to one of your posts you muppet. Stay off the naswar 🤣🤣. I’m Pakistani, does it have to do with me or what, make your mind up. It concerns me because I’m Pakistani and Pashtun.

Your posting style reminds me of @uppercut and @straighttalk. Scrambled brains
 
Boyka said:
You quoted me after I responded to one of your posts you muppet. Stay off the naswar 🤣🤣. I’m Pakistani, does it have to do with me or what, make your mind up. It concerns me because I’m Pakistani and Pashtun.

Your posting style reminds me of @uppercut and @straighttalk. Scrambled brains
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Dear @Boyka @The Bald Eagle @Bewal Express

I have a Pakistani friend whose father is a retired General. I’ve known him for 15 years—a true patriot with multiple postgraduate degrees and a family. We often defended Pakistan together on different forums during the War on Terror, and more. He always said he would never leave Pakistan.

He appears on TV shows but his heart is not in it, anymore. He is not an Imran Khan or PTI supporter but loves his country.

But last year, he called me to discuss options for migrating from Pakistan—and it broke my heart. 🥹 Not many things get to me but his phone call bothered me a lot!
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I have other Pakistani friends from high-ranking military families whose identities I won’t share. None of them support any politician or party—they just want the corruption and looting to end.

Everyone knows Pakistan is not in the right state.

It takes a truly dishonest person to claim otherwise—either someone doing it for money, or someone whose soul is so darkened that no light can reach it.

I have friends loyal to Maulana Fazlur-Rahman. Despite their bravado, they know deep down that the country is off track and that Maulana Fazlur-Rahman cannot fix it—the only real option is Imran Khan.

These are practicing Muslims who ignore Imran Khan’s efforts in denouncing Islamophobia and defending the honor of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him). They also know that Islamic rulings, like a woman’s testimony on her menstrual cycle and Iddat, cannot be overturned—but they remain silent. I urge them to fear Allah and at least stay quiet instead of harming their Akhirat for Maulana Fazlur-Rahman. Many have listened and kept quiet, knowing they have no Islamic evidence or substance to justify their positions.

Many in Pakistan will be psychologically impacted due to their hypocrisy and their mental health will be compromised. As for Trolls, it is extremely dangerous to their mental Health and wellbing because they know that they are lying and being dishonest and these people will impact their families and their relationships.
​
 
LordJames said:
Dear @Boyka @The Bald Eagle @Bewal Express

I have a Pakistani friend whose father is a retired General. I’ve known him for 15 years—a true patriot with multiple postgraduate degrees and a family. We often defended Pakistan together on different forums during the War on Terror, and more. He always said he would never leave Pakistan.

He appears on TV shows but his heart is not in it, anymore. He is not an Imran Khan or PTI supporter but loves his country.

But last year, he called me to discuss options for migrating from Pakistan—and it broke my heart. 🥹 Not many things get to me but his phone call bothered me a lot!
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I have other Pakistani friends from high-ranking military families whose identities I won’t share. None of them support any politician or party—they just want the corruption and looting to end.

Everyone knows Pakistan is not in the right state.

It takes a truly dishonest person to claim otherwise—either someone doing it for money, or someone whose soul is so darkened that no light can reach it.

I have friends loyal to Maulana Fazlur-Rahman. Despite their bravado, they know deep down that the country is off track and that Maulana Fazlur-Rahman cannot fix it—the only real option is Imran Khan.

These are practicing Muslims who ignore Imran Khan’s efforts in denouncing Islamophobia and defending the honor of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him). They also know that Islamic rulings, like a woman’s testimony on her menstrual cycle and Iddat, cannot be overturned—but they remain silent. I urge them to fear Allah and at least stay quiet instead of harming their Akhirat for Maulana Fazlur-Rahman. Many have listened and kept quiet, knowing they have no Islamic evidence or substance to justify their positions.

Many in Pakistan will be psychologically impacted due to their hypocrisy and their mental health will be compromised. As for Trolls, it is extremely dangerous to their mental Health and wellbing because they know that they are lying and being dishonest and these people will impact their families and their relationships.
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No one can tell me that Munir and Junta are patriots. A patriot puts his country 1st and loves the people of his country. These criminals have allowed 2 trillion to be stolen, they have murdered fellow countrymen, they have tortured including women and children. They have destroyed the constitution so much the CJP Justice is scared to give a verdict on illegal decisions and as you will see tomorrow the beghairat will once again run and send a criminal decision by the LHC back to the same people
PK is in deep peril, the debt had doubled in 3 years, the economy has crashed and poverty is close to 50%
The Generals see PK as their private entity and cannot let go. Things will get worse until they go back to the barracks
 
emranabbas said:
The real clowns are you PTI supporters, crying and whining over a grown man who’s sitting behind bars. Do you even see how absurd and laughable you look, acting like it’s some tragedy? It’s almost comical watching you lose your minds over some buddah sitting behind bars for stealing.
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Dear @emranabbas

If someone is behind bars without a reason does age matter? As a Muslim, should we ignore issues based on age?

Thanks
 
emranabbas said:
Brother, you come across as a respected person with standards, and I value our conversations. We will definitely continue them, but let me first deal with these low-level changaars, and then we can get back to our civilized discussion.
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lol
Hilarious

Have you considered a career in standup comedy?
 
Mamoon said:
The irony of PTI supporters accusing others of lacking morals and principles.
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my favourite line from PTI fans is after every 6 months, they right something, yes Imran mad a mistake by doing so and so (during the last 6 months), but he will come back strong or this and that. Only for Imran do some more dumb stuff and for these guys to admitting he was wrong and again hoping for a miracle in the next 6 months
 
Bewal Express said:
You gorm, we have a right to select our leaders. We have a man your phuddu Generals are begging to stay quiet and begging him to ask for mercy . This is in contrast to your leader that left his party in jail as he ran off to Jeddah. That's why he won a 180 seats and is loved by 80% of PKs. Your clowns couldn't even their own seats. NS couldn't beat a cancer sufferer in jail.

Tell my why the Junta has said that crooked Nani and Ss stole 2 trillion? The forum is yours
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You keep playing the same old recor, making claims but never backing them up with real evidence, only relying on news reports and YouTube videos. You must have a pretty sad life to have been doing this for the past six months continuously . Speak when you have proper proof; until then, just sit back down.
 
emranabbas said:
Brother, you come across as a respected person with standards, and I value our conversations. We will definitely continue them, but let me first deal with these low-level changaars, and then we can get back to our civilized discussion.
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Dear @emranabbas

Your name "Abbas" is the name of the uncle Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him).

What result will you get out of "urine" and "feces" discussions online? Will anyone get hurt, will it impact them? How will "urine" and "feces" subdue someone in an argument?

Don't destroy the legacy of someone whose name your Parents gave you.

Thanks

Major said:
my favourite line from PTI fans is after every 6 months, they right something, yes Imran mad a mistake by doing so and so (during the last 6 months), but he will come back strong or this and that. Only for Imran do some more dumb stuff and for these guys to admitting he was wrong and again hoping for a miracle in the next 6 months
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Dear Major,

Imran Khan made many mistakes and made many wrong judgement calls because he is human and all humans make mistakes. But Imran Khan is not Corrupt, there is a difference between bad judgement calls, bad decisions and outright corruption.

You and I (and all of us) make mistakes its in our nature but it doesn't make us criminals.

You are highly intelligent person and you know that.

Thanks
 
Why is it that we living in Pakistan are happy with who we elected, and the ones who cant vote and are overseas are so frustrated.

Anyways, that Technic guy has already self admitted that you guys are a cult as you only care about the leader and nothing else.

And as for the baap jibes by the PTI supporters. I wouldnt be doing that knowing you guys had Aamir Liaqut, Faisal Vawda and Shebaz Gill as your MNAs.
 
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