Greenstorm
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Mushkil hai. This team lacks jazba.
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Can the team management take tough decisions. I would also make Sarfaraz step down as he is just not worth a spot in the team
Can the team management take tough decisions. I would also make Sarfaraz step down as he is just not worth a spot in the team
Even one washout will mean Pakistan are out
Basically we have to win all 4
And make sure we win big in atleast 2 games then we might have some chance
https://www.cricketworldcup.com/bracket-challenge
Use this link to see the scenarios there are lot of options but important is to win all remaining 4 games
Why would anyone want to see this pathetic team in the Semis?
They need to go back to Pakistan and take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.
Nervous times ahead for fans.
Do we stand a chance ?
Or All is Lost
Any Experts wanna answer?
Why would anyone want to see this pathetic team in the Semis?
They need to go back to Pakistan and take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.
Here we go boys game by game
This is what needs to happen.
West Indies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 - Bang
England vs Afghanistan, Match 24 - Eng
New Zealand vs South Africa, Match 25 - SA
Australia vs Bangladesh, Match 26 - Aus
England vs Sri Lanka, Match 27 - Eng
India vs Afghanistan, Match 28 - Ind
West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
Pakistan vs South Africa, Match 30 - Pak
Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Match 31 - Bang
England vs Australia, Match 32 - Eng
New Zealand vs Pakistan, Match 33 - Pak
West Indies vs India, Match 34 - Ind
Sri Lanka vs South Africa, Match 35 - SA
Pakistan vs Afghanistan, Match 36 - Pak
New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 - NZ
England vs India, Match 38 - Doesn’t matter
Sri Lanka vs West Indies, Match 39 - WI
Bangladesh vs India, Match 40 - India
England vs New Zealand, Match 41 - Eng
Afghanistan vs West Indies, Match 42 - WI
Pakistan vs Bangladesh, Match 43 - Pak
Sri Lanka vs India, Match 44 - Ind
Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 - SA
Bang 9 points
Windies 9 points
SA- 9 points
Aus- 10 points
NZ- 9 points
Pak 11 points
The most implausible results out of the above look like our games!!!!
The main games I feel are the NZ and Aus games, as we need them to NOT get to 11 points.
We are fans so we have to pray/hope/believe
@mehndi
[MENTION=136383]MSaad[/MENTION]
[MENTION=51324]aqeelPK[/MENTION]
Here we go boys game by game
This is what needs to happen.
West Indies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 - Bang
England vs Afghanistan, Match 24 - Eng
New Zealand vs South Africa, Match 25 - SA
Australia vs Bangladesh, Match 26 - Aus
England vs Sri Lanka, Match 27 - Eng
India vs Afghanistan, Match 28 - Ind
West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
Pakistan vs South Africa, Match 30 - Pak
Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Match 31 - Bang
England vs Australia, Match 32 - Eng
New Zealand vs Pakistan, Match 33 - Pak
West Indies vs India, Match 34 - Ind
Sri Lanka vs South Africa, Match 35 - SA
Pakistan vs Afghanistan, Match 36 - Pak
New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 - NZ
England vs India, Match 38 - Doesn’t matter
Sri Lanka vs West Indies, Match 39 - WI
Bangladesh vs India, Match 40 - India
England vs New Zealand, Match 41 - Eng
Afghanistan vs West Indies, Match 42 - WI
Pakistan vs Bangladesh, Match 43 - Pak
Sri Lanka vs India, Match 44 - Ind
Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 - SA
Bang 9 points
Windies 9 points
SA- 9 points
Aus- 10 points
NZ- 9 points
Pak 11 points
The most implausible results out of the above look like our games!!!!
The main games I feel are the NZ and Aus games, as we need them to NOT get to 11 points.
We are fans so we have to pray/hope/believe
@mehndi
[MENTION=136383]MSaad[/MENTION]
[MENTION=51324]aqeelPK[/MENTION]
See post Number 24tomorrow we need west indies win
west indies have no chance vs new Zealand
and we have to hope somehow SA Beats New Zealand
Do you want Pakistan to qualify?
Off Course- did you want pak to qualify after being dismissed for 72 and winning 1 game out of 5 in 92?
Can not see NZ losing 4/5. LolThanks mate pak reached semi final in my attempt.
Ideally nz should lose from aus england pak and wi
Why would anyone want NZ to miss out, and this rubbish and unprofessional team to qualify?
3 losses, 1 win and 1 Washout out of 5 matches.
Yet, team will somehow win the remaining 4 matches and reach the semis when NZ loses all 4 matches.
Yeah and pigs will fly.
Here we go boys game by game
This is what needs to happen.
West Indies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 - Bang
England vs Afghanistan, Match 24 - Eng
New Zealand vs South Africa, Match 25 - SA
Australia vs Bangladesh, Match 26 - Aus
England vs Sri Lanka, Match 27 - Eng
India vs Afghanistan, Match 28 - Ind
West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
Pakistan vs South Africa, Match 30 - Pak
Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Match 31 - Bang
England vs Australia, Match 32 - Eng
New Zealand vs Pakistan, Match 33 - Pak
West Indies vs India, Match 34 - Ind
Sri Lanka vs South Africa, Match 35 - SA
Pakistan vs Afghanistan, Match 36 - Pak
New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 - NZ
England vs India, Match 38 - Doesn’t matter
Sri Lanka vs West Indies, Match 39 - WI
Bangladesh vs India, Match 40 - India
England vs New Zealand, Match 41 - Eng
Afghanistan vs West Indies, Match 42 - WI
Pakistan vs Bangladesh, Match 43 - Pak
Sri Lanka vs India, Match 44 - Ind
Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 - SA
Bang 9 points
Windies 9 points
SA- 9 points
Aus- 10 points
NZ- 9 points
Pak 11 points
The most implausible results out of the above look like our games!!!!
The main games I feel are the NZ and Aus games, as we need them to NOT get to 11 points.
We are fans so we have to pray/hope/believe
@mehndi
[MENTION=136383]MSaad[/MENTION]
[MENTION=51324]aqeelPK[/MENTION]
The key game is Pak vs NZ
Pakistan needs to beat SA, Afg & Bang - which given SAs fork in this competition shouldn't be an issue inshallah
NZ needs to lose to Aus & Eng - which given Aus and Engs form shouldn't be an issue inshallah
After that if Pak beats NZ both teams will end on 11 points and NRR comes into it
Our net run rate is battered. Need kiwis to lose to SA and then beat windies
Yup unfortunately for us now we have to play the NRR game to have a chance to got through.
I'm sure you know alot of this already, however, here's a summary of at least how I see things can go down inshallah.
Ok - let's get a couple of things out the way early:
Numbe 1: Yes Pakistan has played horrendous cricket so far in the world cup and they should have performed alot better and won alot more games
Number 2: The "they don't deserve to play the semi final" statement is absolutely garbage. If some how Pakistan qualify for the semi finals - then they will deserve to be there. End of.
Number 3: If fans think a poor performance here will trigger some drastic change across Pakistani cricket they are extremely deluded and I would question whether they have followed Pakistani cricket for more than 2 years or not.
Now let's get down to the nitty gritty of it.
Pakistan has already played - what should be - it's three toughest games in the competition. I think their are three teams guaranteed a semi final spot - England, Australia & India - and we have played all 3 of them and won 1 of those matches.
We were unlucky for the SL game to be rained off, however, managed to get a point & the WI game obviously resulted in no points.
What all this means is we can end up on a maximum of 11 points by winning our remaining games. Given SAs recent form, I don't think it's unrealistic for Pakistan to achieve this & yes sure I know alot of posters will disagree.
Of course it will not be easy - however, in my mind it's not imossible for us to win the remaining 4 games and end up on 11 points.
So for the sake of this analysis let's assume that Pakistan win their remaining games and end up on 11 points inshallah for.
Now the question is - apart from the 3 teams I mentioned above who I believe have guarunteed qualification spots and Pakistan - who else can end up on 11 points or more?
Afg can get a maximum of 8 points so they are out.
For Bang to get to 11 points they need to beat Aus & Ind so I think it's fair to say that is unlikely
SA need to beat Pak to get to 11 points and if that happens then it will be game over for Pakistan, so no point discussing this here.
WI need to beat NZ, SL, Afg & Bang to end up on 11 points and they need to beat India to end up on 13 points. I think 13 points is extremely unlikely - however - 11 points is possible in which case it will come down to NRR
NZ need to lose two of their remaining 5 games to end up on 11 points. Obviously in this scenario we are assuming Pak win their remaining games (including the one against NZ) so that means NZ need to lose to either Eng, Aus, SA or WI which I think is highly likely to happen.
SL need to beat three of SA, WI, Eng and Ind to end up on 11 points which I think is quite unlikely - specially given their 2 games against Eng and Ind - however still possible.
So what that means is the teams which technically can - but are unlikely to - beat Pakistan for the 4th spot are:
Sri Lanka & Bangladesh
The teams which possibly can end up on 11 points and it will come down to NRR are:
West Indies and New Zealand
Now yes I know it won't be easy. And yes I know it's frustrating to have to rely on NRR - it would be a lot easier if we managed to secure 2 points against SL or Aus.
However - you can say what you want - it isn't over yet.
Pakistan will have to play out their skin to not just win the remaining 4 games but also get their NRR above WIs and/or NZs but it can be done.
You throw in the uncertainty regarding the rain and that could go in Pakistan's favour or against us depending on what game(s) get rained off.
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They don't need NRR, check the above the post.
Here we go boys game by game
This is what needs to happen.
West Indies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 - Bang
England vs Afghanistan, Match 24 - Eng
New Zealand vs South Africa, Match 25 - SA
Australia vs Bangladesh, Match 26 - Aus
England vs Sri Lanka, Match 27 - Eng
India vs Afghanistan, Match 28 - Ind
West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
Pakistan vs South Africa, Match 30 - Pak
Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Match 31 - Bang
England vs Australia, Match 32 - Eng
New Zealand vs Pakistan, Match 33 - Pak
West Indies vs India, Match 34 - Ind
Sri Lanka vs South Africa, Match 35 - SA
Pakistan vs Afghanistan, Match 36 - Pak
New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 - NZ
England vs India, Match 38 - Doesn’t matter
Sri Lanka vs West Indies, Match 39 - WI
Bangladesh vs India, Match 40 - India
England vs New Zealand, Match 41 - Eng
Afghanistan vs West Indies, Match 42 - WI
Pakistan vs Bangladesh, Match 43 - Pak
Sri Lanka vs India, Match 44 - Ind
Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 - SA
Bang 9 points
Windies 9 points
SA- 9 points
Aus- 10 points
NZ- 9 points
Pak 11 points
The most implausible results out of the above look like our games!!!!
The main games I feel are the NZ and Aus games, as we need them to NOT get to 11 points.
We are fans so we have to pray/hope/believe
@mehndi
[MENTION=136383]MSaad[/MENTION]
[MENTION=51324]aqeelPK[/MENTION]
In the above post their are a number of results which we are unlikely to see such as:
> Bang beating WI - I know Bang have had the better of WI in recent times, however, in the WC WI have really shown up and seem to have a dangerous attack
> SA beating NZ - on current form this seems unlikely
> WI beating NZ - WI have been good but thing they may struggle to topple NZ
> NZ beating Aus - looking unlikely on current form
> SA beating Aus - looking unlikely on current form
I think even 1 of the above results occurring is improbable. Expecting ALL the above to occur is extremely unlikely.
In the situation I proposed the most unlikely thing is probably Pak winning all 4 remaining games, however, that is what they need to do now to get through. Meanwhile the other results is what you would expect to see
There was a mistake in that regarding South Africa only, we don't need NRR according to that and those results which you are talking about.
South Africa will finish at 7 points beating Afghanistan and New Zealand, lose to Australia.
Why did you make up other results by yourself?
Australia is beating South Africa
West Indies is beating Bangladesh
Australia is beating New Zealand
New Zealand is beating West Indies
These results are meant to happen anyway.
West Indies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 - Bang
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West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
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West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
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New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 - NZ
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Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 - SA
Here we go boys game by game
This is what needs to happen.
West Indies vs Bangladesh, Match 23 - Bang
England vs Afghanistan, Match 24 - Eng
New Zealand vs South Africa, Match 25 - SA
Australia vs Bangladesh, Match 26 - Aus
England vs Sri Lanka, Match 27 - Eng
India vs Afghanistan, Match 28 - Ind
West Indies vs New Zealand, Match 29 - WI
Pakistan vs South Africa, Match 30 - Pak
Bangladesh vs Afghanistan, Match 31 - Bang
England vs Australia, Match 32 - Eng
New Zealand vs Pakistan, Match 33 - Pak
West Indies vs India, Match 34 - Ind
Sri Lanka vs South Africa, Match 35 - SA
Pakistan vs Afghanistan, Match 36 - Pak
New Zealand vs Australia, Match 37 - NZ
England vs India, Match 38 - Doesn’t matter
Sri Lanka vs West Indies, Match 39 - WI
Bangladesh vs India, Match 40 - India
England vs New Zealand, Match 41 - Eng
Afghanistan vs West Indies, Match 42 - WI
Pakistan vs Bangladesh, Match 43 - Pak
Sri Lanka vs India, Match 44 - Ind
Australia vs South Africa, Match 45 - SA
Bang 9 points
Windies 9 points
SA- 9 points
Aus- 10 points
NZ- 9 points
Pak 11 points
The most implausible results out of the above look like our games!!!!
The main games I feel are the NZ and Aus games, as we need them to NOT get to 11 points.
We are fans so we have to pray/hope/believe
@mehndi
[MENTION=136383]MSaad[/MENTION]
[MENTION=51324]aqeelPK[/MENTION]