Will Pakistan replicate its recent success against stronger teams?

[mominsaigol]

Their is no doubt that Pakistan is finally dominating a minnow side. While Bangladesh isnt anything special, Pakistani fans had forgotten the feeling of truly dominating a minnow side.

Gone are the days where the likes of Babar would score 44 of 43 against USA on a Dallas Road, Rizwan would freqently score 16 of 26 in a power play and Chacha would freqently botch Super overs against Zimbabwe and USA.

Pakistan t20 side was so poor that at one point beating Canada with extreme difficulty in a t20 match was seen as a plus point.

However Pakistan is finally starting to dominate and maul minnow teams without any significant effort.

But the question is, can they replicate it against the Big 5? (INDIA, SA, AU, NZ, ENG)

 

[Devadwal]

Its not first Time pakistan has dominated minnows or second string team .

Before 2023 Asia Cup Or world Cup ,They had dominated second string team or minnows and eventually reached Top ranks in odi cricket but badly exposed in Asia Cup and World Cup 2023 .

Same thing happened before champions trophy 2025 , when they won three consecutive series including Two away series against Second string australia, And South Africa team. But they again exposed in champions Trophy 2025 .

Let's see how they will perform in next year World T20 or Asia cup 2025( Unlikely to happen) !!

 

[mominsaigol]

Its not first Time pakistan has dominated minnows or second string team .

Before 2023 Asia Cup Or world Cup ,They had dominated second string team or minnows and eventually reached Top ranks in odi cricket but badly exposed in Asia Cup and World Cup 2023 .

Same thing happened before champions trophy 2025 , when they won three consecutive series including Two away series against Second string australia, And South Africa team. But they again exposed in champions Trophy 2025 .

Let's see how they will perform in next year World T20 or Asia cup 2025( Unlikely to happen) !!

Ofcourse you're the first to comment on my thread

 

[Greenstorm]

Yes they will.

 

[Fanboy375]

Babar would score 44 of 43

My Bobzi ka king has average of 1 vs Zim in test.Pray for him

 

[Farhan The Man]

Depends on who those "stronger" teams are.

Stronger in relation to pakistan; or stronger overall. There's minimal overlap between these two groups.

Simply put, there are hardly any teams weaker than pakistan.

 

[mominsaigol]

Depends on who those "stronger" teams are.

Stronger in relation to pakistan; or stronger overall. There's minimal overlap between these two groups.

Simply put, there are hardly any teams weaker than pakistan.

Well Bangladesh, Afghanistan(despite their recent success), Zimbabwe, Ireland, USA, Canada, Sri Lanka, west indies etc etc is defo weaker.

And pakistan can beat South Africa and England in odi and t20 on a few given days.

Australia, India and New Zealand is out of pakistan's league.

Its just the reason pakistan was struggling against the weaker teams was due to their insistence of playing with rubbish players.

2024 t20 wc was not the best playing 15 that pakistan could have sent infact it was ampung the worst.

That squad wasted fakhar and saim due to the courtesy of Babar and rizwan, had 3 keepers in one squad with usman khan being avg and azam Khan being a disgrace and rizwan being another failure.

Then shadab, Chacha are hilarious additions followed by the fact that Babar wasnt willing to play abrar in the lineup.

Bowling was bang avg with a non existent spin lineup and Rauf whos useless in any conditons excluding Australia, out of form shaheen and a has been Amir.

The current team is alot stronger as it has 3 solid opening options with farhan being I the form of his life, solid middle order prospects in hasan nawaz and Agha, and haris whos doing a stellar job at no 3. Bowling is also decent.

Main issue is no 6 and no 7, which is still on the weaker side.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Problem is, you can't read too much into this series against Bangladesh .

Having said that, I think Shaheen walks into this T20 side currently, ahead of both Rauf and Naseem

 

[Mamoon]

Are we supposed to forget that they have already been hammered like no tomorrow in New Zealand?

 

[cricketmania22]

Getting excited after dominating a Bangladesh C team who recently lost to UAE is unfortunately desperation of the highest order. And even if this Bangladesh had held onto their chances, results could have been different. Except for Hassan Nawaz no one has shown the level of play and skills we see from the players of top teams. This team will crumble against any decent team let alone a full strength top team.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Are we supposed to forget that they have already been hammered like no tomorrow in New Zealand?

Babar , Rizwan and co. were hammered similarly in NZ last year

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Pakistan should do better than how they did recently.

New guys are more positive and confident.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It will take time and fans should be patient. I think we are a few years away from being consistent in short formats.

There will be times when this side is 80 all out. Fans must not demand knee jerk reactions when these times come.

In recent times Pakistan became a bottom t20 side. Next stage is mid ranked and able to compete while winning against the top sides occasionally.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar , Rizwan and co. were hammered similarly in NZ last year

So there is no reason for doing bhangra if these intent merchants are not going to help Pakistan beat the best teams in the world. Results matter, intent doesn’t.

Pakistan have 15 formidable T20Is in the next 12 months and I will reserve the bhangra until then.

It appears that some fans want to give this lot the Nobel prize for beating Bangladesh B.

 

[Rana]

Babar , Rizwan and co. were hammered similarly in NZ last year

But that’s what we are supposed to forget

 

[Justcrazy]

Well , whether they do or not only time will say , but at least they are trying to build a team that is required to play modern day cricket. You need to change things , there is no point in losing and still continuing with same formulas.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I hope these guys can be more competitive, but beating a stronger team with some over-hyped guys in the team, could be too much to ask for... Time will tell.

 

[Boyka]

The bowling remains a weakness for Pakistan not the batsmen.

Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf get hit for 10 and 11 way too often. Will never win games if this remains the case.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I wouldn't even call this a succes. Pakistan just won 2 matches against Bangladesh at home of T20Is and they are very capable of losing tonight's game.

If Pakistan cannot replicate the success they had in ODIs in Australia and South Africa. Then you can be damn sure that this win vs Bangladesh means nothing. Nothing.

 

[Kianig89]

Let's wait for some tough opposition, it was all halwa

 

[ElRaja]

honestly it doesnt matter, pakistan were so bad they were losing to the usa, bangladesh was clearly a better team, to beat them 3-0 is a great achievement considering how bad pakistan were. they wont become world beaters in a month, please give them at least two major tournaments to judge.

 

[Rana]

We needed Bang to get 200 so then we could say Pakistan scored 200+ 3 games in a row and really rub it in!

 

[Devadwal]

We needed Bang to get 200 so then we could say Pakistan scored 200+ 3 games in a row and really rub it in!

Don't worry you'll get chance to score 200+ Total in World T20 2026 more than thrice. This thread will be bump at that point

 

[Rana]

Don't worry you'll get chance to score 200+ Total in World T20 2026 more than thrice. This thread will be bump at that point

It’s June and the torment continues for you Devdas

 

[kingusama92]

Lots of good parts in the batting lineup.

The bowling lineup needs to be reworked and that's going to take time. Yes, winning against this Bangladesh team isn't the biggest achievement but they're rebuilding the team and it shows they're trending in the right direction.

Finally they're starting to move away from the torture of Rizwan and Babar in this format.

 

[Devadwal]

It’s June and the torment continues for you Devdas

Ouuch kya hua, hurt ho gye such puch liya to.

 

[LordJames]

Their is no doubt that Pakistan is finally dominating a minnow side. While Bangladesh isnt anything special, Pakistani fans had forgotten the feeling of truly dominating a minnow side.

Gone are the days where the likes of Babar would score 44 of 43 against USA on a Dallas Road, Rizwan would freqently score 16 of 26 in a power play and Chacha would freqently botch Super overs against Zimbabwe and USA.

Pakistan t20 side was so poor that at one point beating Canada with extreme difficulty in a t20 match was seen as a plus point.

However Pakistan is finally starting to dominate and maul minnow teams without any significant effort.

But the question is, can they replicate it against the Big 5? (INDIA, SA, AU, NZ, ENG)

The seeds are there, T20 is a batters game and the top order need to bat aggressively no matter what and against all opposition which means that there may be days where they will be dismissed for under a 100, both the players and the fans need to not lose heart on those days.

This was a weak(ish) Bangladesh side but the template has been set.

 

[moghul]

Its really a sad state of affairs for Pakistan cricket that after 8 years these two , Hasan Ali and Faheem Ashraf, are still playing for Pakistan . When was the last time these two ever performed against a decent team . They have been a failure in the past and not the future of Pakistan . This was the perfect occasion to give chances to some new players.

 

[moghul]

Lots of good parts in the batting lineup.

The bowling lineup needs to be reworked and that's going to take time. Yes, winning against this Bangladesh team isn't the biggest achievement but they're rebuilding the team and it shows they're trending in the right direction.

Finally they're starting to move away from the torture of Rizwan and Babar in this format.

Moving away from Rizwan and Babar but moving back to even worst players like Faheem Ashraf and Hasan Ali.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

It’s good to see we have 4 power hitters in the top 6 who on their day can score big fifties at 200s/r+ and can change the course of the match , now it’s time to find good T20 bowlers and seal the deal.

 

[Greenstorm]

Its really a sad state of affairs for Pakistan cricket that after 8 years these two , Hasan Ali and Faheem Ashraf, are still playing for Pakistan . When was the last time these two ever performed against a decent team . They have been a failure in the past and not the future of Pakistan . This was the perfect occasion to give chances to some new players.

Hassan Ali looks in good rhythm but his skills are more suited to longer formats. He should be kept away from T20Is.

Hesson indicated today that he favours 3 specialist bowlers along with allrounder so we are stuck with Faheem. Real travesty here is that Hesson thinks Faheem is an allrounder ! Faheem and Shadab will cost us important games against top oppositions specially if we rely on their bowling.

 

[mominsaigol]

Hassan Ali looks in good rhythm but his skills are more suited to longer formats. He should be kept away from T20Is.

Hesson indicated today that he favours 3 specialist bowlers along with allrounder so we are stuck with Faheem. Real travesty here is that Hesson thinks Faheem is an allrounder ! Faheem and Shadab will cost us important games against top oppositions specially if we rely on their bowling.

Who would you replace them with? I agree with you BTW, just curious to know who do you think should replace shadab and faheem?

 

[Greenstorm]

Who would you replace them with? I agree with you BTW, just curious to know who do you think should replace shadab and faheem?

Hassan Ali's replacement is easy. Shaheen, Naseem, Harris, Wasim jr, Abbas are all better options in T20Is. I don't mind Hassan Ali sharing the workload in next few T20Is but he shouldn't be in the WC squad.

Faheem's selection is senseless because he is poor against spin (next WC is in Asia) and his 130 kph bowling is trash. Hesson today said that he prefers 'allrounders' because it makes batting long which gives freedom to top and middle order. He should realize that our fast bowlers can provide as much with bat as Faheem at number 8 but an Abbas Afridi or Naseem at 8 ensures 4 solid overs.

In case of Shadab, only one of him and Khushdil should play. This was my lineup before this Bangladesh series and I am sticking with it;

1. Saim
2. Farhan
3. Fakhar
4. Salman
5. Hassan
6. Khushdil/Shadab
7. Harris
8. Abbas
9. Hassan (Shaheen and Naseem rested till important series and WC)
10. Wasim jr
11. Sufyan

 

[Marooned]

For the 1st time, I see a batting with the potential to overcome our chronic disease of low SR in t20s. This has always been our core issue and it finally seems we are addressing the right problem.

We fans have a huge responsibility to be patient though. We've seen growth in a short period of time but rebuilding takes time.

 

[Marooned]

Hassan Ali looks in good rhythm but his skills are more suited to longer formats. He should be kept away from T20Is.

Hesson indicated today that he favours 3 specialist bowlers along with allrounder so we are stuck with Faheem. Real travesty here is that Hesson thinks Faheem is an allrounder ! Faheem and Shadab will cost us important games against top oppositions specially if we rely on their bowling.

Shadab as an AR has never been the issue.
Him as a Frontline/lone spinner has been an issue and we shouldn't go back to that.

As an AR he is the best we have. Plays at good sr and isn't a hack.

 

[cricfan432]

Already did against Nz, other pitches were not t20 pitches and will perform in asian conditions.

 

[kingusama92]

Moving away from Rizwan and Babar but moving back to even worst players like Faheem Ashraf and Hasan Ali.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Faheem either.

I would just lean on Abbas Afridi and groom him into that role. Or at least find someone else.

Hasan Ali seems more like them trying to take advantage of his good form and seeing how far it takes him. The guy will have competition all around him for that spot.

 

[Barragan]

I think this team will do really well in Asian conditions, especially on spinning tracks

Majority of the batsmen are excellent players of spin like Nawaz, Salman, Fakhar, Shadab, Farhan and even Saim

Also, you have 4/5 spin options and they'll be very handy on spinning tracks - I would have Pakistan as favorites on turning pitches

My only concern is the specialist spinner slot - Abrar did well in the 2nd game, but Shadab and co. picked up wkts in the 1st game and he went wicketless, whilst in the 3rd T20 he had a higher economy than all the spin options

Basically, I'd rather play Fakhar at 3 and move everyone down a notch with Haris at 4 whilst Nawaz/Salman rotate between 5 and 6 or bring in another power hitter to bat down the order like an Asif Ali for a few balls

 

[Rana]

I think this team will do really well in Asian conditions, especially on spinning tracks

Majority of the batsmen are excellent players of spin like Nawaz, Salman, Fakhar, Shadab, Farhan and even Saim

Also, you have 4/5 spin options and they'll be very handy on spinning tracks - I would have Pakistan as favorites on turning pitches

My only concern is the specialist spinner slot - Abrar did well in the 2nd game, but Shadab and co. picked up wkts in the 1st game and he went wicketless, whilst in the 3rd T20 he had a higher economy than all the spin options

Basically, I'd rather play Fakhar at 3 and move everyone down a notch with Haris at 4 whilst Nawaz/Salman rotate between 5 and 6 or bring in another power hitter to bat down the order like an Asif Ali for a few balls

You need to have spinners of Afghanistan level to really dent Pakistan to rubbish totals.

Pakistan if they play Abrar and Sufyan will make life extremely difficult for SENA teams on dust bowls.

 

[Barragan]

Problem is, you can't read too much into this series against Bangladesh .

Having said that, I think Shaheen walks into this T20 side currently, ahead of both Rauf and Naseem

Yes, if any from the trio of Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen is coming back into the team, then it's definitely Shaheen the strongest candidate

Naseem and Rauf are easily replaceable with Shaheen and Wasim jnr

 

[Bhaijaan]

You have to absolutely STOP playing these bottom feeder teams on a frequent basis. Its not good for the players development at all and will only result in emergence of lazy minnow bashing low technique muscular tullebaaz batters and overconfident bowlers.

I know people say PCB doesnt have many options and its true to an extent but might as well play first class cricket during that time.
You have wrecked your cricket playing low level teams.

 

[Rana]

Abrar has improved his fielding a bit so he plays as a number 11

As for Sufyan and Usman Tariq… I wouldn’t even trust them to field in a club team. They are ATROCIOUS Fielders. You can’t pick 2 out of these 3 as they will cost you games with drop catches at crucial stages. All 3 are good bowlers no doubt.

Usman Tariq’s drop of Naeem was costly in the final of the PSL.

Out of the 3, Sufyan has the most potential with the bat and can be good at picking up quick runs at the back end. Abrar and Usman have zero batting technique

 

[mominsaigol]

You have to absolutely STOP playing these bottom feeder teams on a frequent basis. Its not good for the players development at all and will only result in emergence of lazy minnow bashing low technique muscular tullebaaz batters and overconfident bowlers.

I know people say PCB doesnt have many options and its true to an extent but might as well play first class cricket during that time.
You have wrecked your cricket playing low level teams.

News flash, their aren't any high level teams to begin with smh.

India is an exception obviously but England is down in the dumps atm in whiteball and in test their HTB's, they'll get mauled by Australia coming ashes.

Australia has officially entered into a transition phase. They will be comparatively weak on odi and t20 for a while now. They will bounce back due to their system and structure but they won't be a major threat for a while now.

Although aus is still strongish.

South Africa at its absolute best has lost to pakistan in icc events on many occasions before. A series between these 2 will be interesting however and sa no doubt is a better test side and is still > pakistan in a normal scenario.

As for the rest, Afghanistan purple patch phase is over now. It lasted a while but Australia ended it in t20. They'll cause pakistan problems on spin wickets but otherwise they won't be an issue.

Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, WI and sri lanka aren't threats. WI is a semi threat in t20 due to batting but their bowling is comical.

And yes while wi can bowl pakistan put for 103 as anything is possible with PK, 9 out of 10 times pakistan will win.

Babar, Rizwan, Imam, Abdullah, and other kachara like azam Khan turned this side into an embrassignly weak side.

With the right players pakistan is a solid mid card team which it always was.

No point comparing pakistan to india and NZ who are obviously top 2 in whiteball and to Australia, England and India who are top 3 in Test.

Pakistan was a mid card team capable of causing upsets but it became a minnow under Babar and misbah. Let pakistan fans enjoy sone semblance.

You've forgotten that at one point pakistan was struggling against usa, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe etc etc in all formats

 

[Barragan]

You need to have spinners of Afghanistan level to really dent Pakistan to rubbish totals.

Pakistan if they play Abrar and Sufyan will make life extremely difficult for SENA teams on dust bowls.

Even then I think these guys will handle the Afg spinners as well

Rashid is not the same level of bowler, whilst Nabi, Mujeeb and Noor have been dealt with in the PSL effectively

Don't know about that Ghazafar guy though

 

[Usman Chadda]

We beat up a pathetic team which just lost a series to the UAE.

Not much to look into here, besides the fact that stat-padding is being gradually removed from our cricketing culture.

These boys will struggle against better teams still, game awareness is still lacking.

 

[Bhaijaan]

News flash, their aren't any high level teams to begin with smh.

India is an exception obviously but England is down in the dumps atm in whiteball and in test their HTB's, they'll get mauled by Australia coming ashes.

Australia has officially entered into a transition phase. They will be comparatively weak on odi and t20 for a while now. They will bounce back due to their system and structure but they won't be a major threat for a while now.

Although aus is still strongish.

South Africa at its absolute best has lost to pakistan in icc events on many occasions before. A series between these 2 will be interesting however and sa no doubt is a better test side and is still > pakistan in a normal scenario.

As for the rest, Afghanistan purple patch phase is over now. It lasted a while but Australia ended it in t20. They'll cause pakistan problems on spin wickets but otherwise they won't be an issue.

Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, WI and sri lanka aren't threats. WI is a semi threat in t20 due to batting but their bowling is comical.

And yes while wi can bowl pakistan put for 103 as anything is possible with PK, 9 out of 10 times pakistan will win.

Babar, Rizwan, Imam, Abdullah, and other kachara like azam Khan turned this side into an embrassignly weak side.

With the right players pakistan is a solid mid card team which it always was.

No point comparing pakistan to india and NZ who are obviously top 2 in whiteball and to Australia, England and India who are top 3 in Test.

Pakistan was a mid card team capable of causing upsets but it became a minnow under Babar and misbah. Let pakistan fans enjoy sone semblance.

You've forgotten that at one point pakistan was struggling against usa, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe etc etc in all formats

What has been concerning for me is that you have negotiated shorter test series with most of the big teams. You started playing 4 test series in England, that got reduced to 3 i think, and in Australia and South Africa it got shortened to 2 from 3 previously.

That's not good for player development. Play as much T20s but not at the cost of test cricket.
And transition or whatever, the traditional 5-6 top cricket nations (including Pakistan) possess superior skill set and confidence compared to Zimbabwe, Bangla etc

 

[mominsaigol]

What has been concerning for me is that you have negotiated shorter test series with most of the big teams. You started playing 4 test series in England, that got reduced to 3 i think, and in Australia and South Africa it got shortened to 2 from 3 previously.

That's not good for player development. Play as much T20s but not at the cost of test cricket.
And transition or whatever, the traditional 5-6 top cricket nations (including Pakistan) possess superior skill set and confidence compared to Zimbabwe, Bangla etc

Pakistan is trying to copy South Africa and cheese their way into wtc final.

Wtc is a fantastic format but South Africa discovered a loophole which is why Indians started hating on it.

The idea of sides not playing evenly is fine, as wtc is based of win-loss ratio but sides can cheese their way into a final by playing g easier sides.

England, India and Australia do not have this luxury as fandoms from each country will want a 5 match test series to be scheduled between these sides annually or every 2 years.

But SA can exploit it to their hearts desire, and now Pakistan is trying to copy it.

Wtc needs to be more balanced when it comes to match cards. The first 2 wtc cycles were fine as is.

But the 3rd one was a classic SA Cheese.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan is trying to copy South Africa and cheese their way into wtc final.

Wtc is a fantastic format but South Africa discovered a loophole which is why Indians started hating on it.

The idea of sides not playing evenly is fine, as wtc is based of win-loss ratio but sides can cheese their way into a final by playing g easier sides.

England, India and Australia do not have this luxury as fandoms from each country will want a 5 match test series to be scheduled between these sides annually or every 2 years.

But SA can exploit it to their hearts desire, and now Pakistan is trying to copy it.

Wtc needs to be more balanced when it comes to match cards. The first 2 wtc cycles were fine as is.

But the 3rd one was a classic SA Cheese.

I respect WTC for the fact that it give a value to test cricket and the final is well followed test match event. Its a good advertisement for test cricket.
The test #1 rank and keeping it for a long duration means a lot more. But whoever wins WTC final, test cricket is a winner and for that i am grateful as a fan.

From my POV as an Bharatiya fan, i want just IPL, test cricket, ICC tournaments.

 

[mominsaigol]

I respect WTC for the fact that it give a value to test cricket and the final is well followed test match event. Its a good advertisement for test cricket.
The test #1 rank and keeping it for a long duration means a lot more. But whoever wins WTC final, test cricket is a winner and for that i am grateful as a fan.

From my POV as an Bharatiya fan, i want just IPL, test cricket, ICC tournaments.

No true cricket fan hates wtc. Only blind Indians do since its a format that doesnt tickle their fancy.

But despite the criticism, South Africa did cheese their way in.

 

[mominsaigol]

One thing that needs to happen in all formats for Pakistan.

1) Farhan needs to replace Abdullah Shafique irrespective of the format. Be it odi, test or t20.

2) Muhammad Haris needs to replace Rizwan in odi and t20

3) Hasan Nawaz needs to play t20 and odi for pk

 

[Mesozoic]

But SA can exploit it to their hearts desire, and now Pakistan is trying to copy it.

South Africa were only able to exploit it because they actually have some top quality Test cricketers in their ranks. They were pretty clinical in winning the games they were supposed to win and are rightfully in the final.

On the other hand, Pakistan finsihed rock bottom in the previous edition. No amount of copying is going to take them into the top 4 let alone to a final.

 

[mominsaigol]

South Africa were only able to exploit it because they actually have some top quality Test cricketers in their ranks. They were pretty clinical in winning the games they were supposed to win and are rightfully in the final.

On the other hand, Pakistan finsihed rock bottom in the previous edition. No amount of copying is going to take them into the top 4 let alone to a final.

I said their trying to copy it. Not that they will succeed at it.

Learn to read properly.

A for apple
B for ball
C for cat
D for meso being a dumb dumb

 

[SportsWarrior]

this is the problem playing with really poor team like BD. BD just lost a series to UAE for God's sake. they are as poor as they come. Now any success against this incompetent team will not be something you can build on. I will wait for an year to see how well these new crop of players do. I honestly don't have much trust in any of them, except may be Ayub. All others are look pretty ordinary. may be i will be proved wrong

 

[Concerned]

If the line up includes Shadab, Kushdil and Faheem from 5/6 onwards then no.

 

[pakistani pride]

Hassan Ali looks in good rhythm but his skills are more suited to longer formats. He should be kept away from T20Is.

Hesson indicated today that he favours 3 specialist bowlers along with allrounder so we are stuck with Faheem. Real travesty here is that Hesson thinks Faheem is an allrounder ! Faheem and Shadab will cost us important games against top oppositions specially if we rely on their bowling.

If Hesson thinks that Shadab and Faheem are allrounders, there is already a problem, a huge problem. Both are not International material in bowling. Faheem is the prime example of a bits and pieces player.

 

[Greenstorm]

If Hesson thinks that Shadab and Faheem are allrounders, there is already a problem, a huge problem. Both are not International material in bowling. Faheem is the prime example of a bits and pieces player.

Foreign catches for some reason always favour 'allrounders' no matter their quality. Mickey Arthur kept playing Imad and Faheem in ODIs and seems like Hesson also wants an 'allrounders' at 7 and 8.

This obsession with zabardasti k allrounders will cost us.
Atleast invest in younger options like Arafat Minhas, Shahid Aziz etc if you want to go down that route.

 

[Sarmad]

Their is no doubt that Pakistan is finally dominating a minnow side. While Bangladesh isnt anything special, Pakistani fans had forgotten the feeling of truly dominating a minnow side.

Gone are the days where the likes of Babar would score 44 of 43 against USA on a Dallas Road, Rizwan would freqently score 16 of 26 in a power play and Chacha would freqently botch Super overs against Zimbabwe and USA.

Pakistan t20 side was so poor that at one point beating Canada with extreme difficulty in a t20 match was seen as a plus point.

However Pakistan is finally starting to dominate and maul minnow teams without any significant effort.

But the question is, can they replicate it against the Big 5? (INDIA, SA, AU, NZ, ENG)

I wonder why are u asking this Q. Beating a team like Ban doesn't mean pak will dominate top 5 teams similarly

 

[mominsaigol]

I wonder why are u asking this Q. Beating a team like Ban doesn't mean pak will dominate top 5 teams similarly

Jeez idk? Maybe cause I wanted to create a thread and get people talking?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You have to absolutely STOP playing these bottom feeder teams on a frequent basis. Its not good for the players development at all and will only result in emergence of lazy minnow bashing low technique muscular tullebaaz batters and overconfident bowlers.

I know people say PCB doesnt have many options and its true to an extent but might as well play first class cricket during that time.
You have wrecked your cricket playing low level teams.

It's not that simple. India don't play Pakistan, and the rest of the top teams don't play their main players in bilateral T20s. So even if you play and beat them it doesn't mean much.

I think people are looking past the fact that its Pakistan's players who have failed in high-pressure situations in ICC tournaments. Their failure has nothing to do with how many B or C teams they beat. Hypothetically speaking, top teams who don't even play their main players in these series should be at an even bigger disadvantage because of the lack of international game time. And yet they find a way to succeed in ICC tournaments.

Pak players have a mental block. You give them a few chances to rectify that mental block but after a certain point you have to move on to other players who are (hopefully) more tough mentally. The problem is reinforcing failures, not Pakistan's international cricket calendar.

 

[cricketmania22]

It was very refreshing to see aggressive approach from the team in these three T20Is, but that’s where the buck stops!
FARHAN - failed even in this series. And no I don’t count his performance in the second T20 as a success when he was given a lifeline in the first over. In the 3rd T20 he wasn’t given any lifeline and he went back in the first over. Said that, he has been putting up good numbers in domestic and had a great PSL so he should be given a clear run to show his abilities.
SAIM - he’s still no way near where the level he was before the injury. Now, I’m more sure if that was one of a thing (SAF series) or did he really improve. Jury is still out on him.
HARRIS- has zero offside game, which explains why he had such a miserable New Zealand tour. However, I’m okay with giving him more chances. I like his approach to T20s, but I don’t believe he’ll make it.
SALMAN- he’s improving but still not a T20 player.
Hassan - I like him. He could be a real threat if he keeps improving like this.
SHADAB - should be dropped
KHUSHDIL - should be dropped
FAHEEM. If used smartly, he can be a decent option. Also we don’t have that many pace bowling rounders. He isn’t a bad hitter of the ball either. Im not thrilled about him, but for now he can stay.
H-Ali- I don’t like him but he did well in PSL, so he should be given a chance to prove himself.

I really hope Naeem develops into another good option just like Hassan. He has a very strong and stable hitting base. He can have a great T20 future.

 

[cricketmania22]

It's not that simple. India don't play Pakistan, and the rest of the top teams don't play their main players in bilateral T20s. So even if you play and beat them it doesn't mean much.

I think people are looking past the fact that its Pakistan's players who have failed in high-pressure situations in ICC tournaments. Their failure has nothing to do with how many B or C teams they beat. Hypothetically speaking, top teams who don't even play their main players in these series should be at an even bigger disadvantage because of the lack of international game time. And yet they find a way to succeed in ICC tournaments.

Pak players have a mental block. You give them a few chances to rectify that mental block but after a certain point you have to move on to other players who are (hopefully) more tough mentally. The problem is reinforcing failures, not Pakistan's international cricket calendar.

Pakistani batsmen always had a mental block baring a few. Inzi, yousuf, YK, Sal Malik, mostly crumbled in ICC tourneys.