Will the BCB send its team to Pakistan?

[MenInG]

The Bangladesh Cricket Board will come to the decision whether to send their men’s team to Pakistan based on reports from the concerned ministry and security agencies.

According to the International Cricket Council Future Tour Program, Pakistan will host Bangladesh for two Test matches and three T20Is, starting in January this year.

A BCB security team will travel to Pakistan soon to understand the arrangements that the home nation will undertake.

With the Sri Lanka team currently touring Pakistan, prospects of Bangladesh visiting the country have gathered some pace.

However, there is a backup plan too.

It is understood that there is always the option of Pakistan hosting Bangladesh in the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan’s makeshift home venue.

“We have a commitment with them [Pakistan Cricket Board] as per the ICC FTP. Pakistan will host Bangladesh for two Tests and three T20Is. They have some neutral venues in Dubai and a few others that are treated as their home venues,” said BCB CEO Nizamuddin Chowdhury to reporters at Mirpur Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium in Dhaka Sunday.

“We have to follow some protocols for our team traveling abroad and security is one of the chief agendas. We have been working on this with the concerned ministry, and also the High Commissions. We will come t[SUP]o a decision based on their reports,” the BCB high-up explained.

In the schedule, the BCB also has Bangladesh women’s team tour of Pakistan in late October.

Nizamuddin informed that assessments of security arrangements for both the men’s and women’s team will be done jointly.

The Bangladesh eves are scheduled to travel to Pakistan for three T20Is and two ODIs.

The women’s team are likely to leave for Pakistan on October 23.

“The process [of assessing security arrangements in Pakistan] has already started. We have already contacted Bangladesh High Commission [in Pakistan] and they have provided us a report,” said Nizamuddin.

“We have sent that report to the concerned ministry, and they are working on it. We are expecting an inspection team to travel to Pakistan soon. Sri Lanka are already on tour of Pakistan, and we want our inspection team to be present there while the tour is on. That way the team will get to witness the on-ground security arrangements that are taken,” the BCB official explained.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2019/09/29/bcb-mulls-sending-tigers-to-pakistan

 

[Rana]

They should.

 

[MenInG]

Seems that plan B already there to host them in UAE.

 

[Rayyman]

They'll get destroyed just like they did in the WC.

 

[MMHS]

This is quite touchy issue and I am not sure how it'll be perceived in PP. Personally, I think BD should travel to PAK, obviously subject to security assessments. It's a part of Test Championship tournament, therefore the series must go and PAK has the right to host it at home.

In reality, I don't think it'll happen. There are political differences, but that's not the big deal - BD Govt. and Cricket administration are quite positive for a normal cricket tie (with PAK - I know it because I have good contacts in BCB Board); but there are two issues now - first one as I said many times, a standard is set, and every time a BD tour is planned to PAK, that trip will need to pass the legal merit. I see a problem there. The way SLCB sent a skeleton of a squad, I am sure BCB won't do that for their own good - if BD sends even a slightly compromised squad and that team gets hammered in PAK, it'll create riot in BD. Shakib has skipped several tours in past, but if BCB leaves it (touring to PAK) on players and then result goes south (regardless of who is playing - you don't need logic to create a political issue), BCB and it's office bearer won't survive the back lash.

Second issue is self created by PCB - Papon (Nazmul Hasan) took it almost personally when PCB withdrew the last planned tour at 11th hour (I heard Papon personally called PCB Office, not sure though). As ACB Chairman, he has to be politically correct, but I am damn sure that guy won't allow it to happen so easily. And, there are several other senior members of BCB board didn't forget that - some of them are very close to PAK Cricket and former players, but ego is something that doesn't follow head. There are two issues here as well - first, PCB has to compensate (some what) for that cancelled tour. Second - PAK has to host BD in UAE, the issue again here is the reason (not hosting BD in UAE) PCB gives - financial viability, though they are hosting WIN, SRL, NZ there.

I think, best way to move forward is to arrange the Test Championship in UAE, followed by a PAK tour to BD (may be even as a revenue sharing model).... and then followed by, subject to security assessments, a return trip by BD to PAK. At current state, actually no team is obliged to tour any other country, rather it's the unofficial "power" that settles issues - AUS toured IND 3 times in its' first 50 years - 1958, 1969, 1978; same AUS is happy to tour IND every year twice, if they are invited!!!! Similarly, PCB can't force any country to tour PAK, or play even bilateral series in neutral venue, and they are not in the bargaining lead, on top of that with a poor attitude - they'll have to play smart here. PAK's calendar is beyond pathetic in next few years - team needs to play as much as possible, otherwise most of the young PAK players will be lost to T20 leagues .... and dirty cricket. I liked the recent domestic reforms, but what it comes with is a hefty bill for PCB - this is not the time to show attitude, rather they should follow money trail, otherwise things will be forced back to squire.

 

[DRsohail]

This is quite touchy issue and I am not sure how it'll be perceived in PP. Personally, I think BD should travel to PAK, obviously subject to security assessments. It's a part of Test Championship tournament, therefore the series must go and PAK has the right to host it at home.

In reality, I don't think it'll happen. There are political differences, but that's not the big deal - BD Govt. and Cricket administration are quite positive for a normal cricket tie (with PAK - I know it because I have good contacts in BCB Board); but there are two issues now - first one as I said many times, a standard is set, and every time a BD tour is planned to PAK, that trip will need to pass the legal merit. I see a problem there. The way SLCB sent a skeleton of a squad, I am sure BCB won't do that for their own good - if BD sends even a slightly compromised squad and that team gets hammered in PAK, it'll create riot in BD. Shakib has skipped several tours in past, but if BCB leaves it (touring to PAK) on players and then result goes south (regardless of who is playing - you don't need logic to create a political issue), BCB and it's office bearer won't survive the back lash.

Second issue is self created by PCB - Papon (Nazmul Hasan) took it almost personally when PCB withdrew the last planned tour at 11th hour (I heard Papon personally called PCB Office, not sure though). As ACB Chairman, he has to be politically correct, but I am damn sure that guy won't allow it to happen so easily. And, there are several other senior members of BCB board didn't forget that - some of them are very close to PAK Cricket and former players, but ego is something that doesn't follow head. There are two issues here as well - first, PCB has to compensate (some what) for that cancelled tour. Second - PAK has to host BD in UAE, the issue again here is the reason (not hosting BD in UAE) PCB gives - financial viability, though they are hosting WIN, SRL, NZ there.

I think, best way to move forward is to arrange the Test Championship in UAE, followed by a PAK tour to BD (may be even as a revenue sharing model).... and then followed by, subject to security assessments, a return trip by BD to PAK. At current state, actually no team is obliged to tour any other country, rather it's the unofficial "power" that settles issues - AUS toured IND 3 times in its' first 50 years - 1958, 1969, 1978; same AUS is happy to tour IND every year twice, if they are invited!!!! Similarly, PCB can't force any country to tour PAK, or play even bilateral series in neutral venue, and they are not in the bargaining lead, on top of that with a poor attitude - they'll have to play smart here. PAK's calendar is beyond pathetic in next few years - team needs to play as much as possible, otherwise most of the young PAK players will be lost to T20 leagues .... and dirty cricket. I liked the recent domestic reforms, but what it comes with is a hefty bill for PCB - this is not the time to show attitude, rather they should follow money trail, otherwise things will be forced back to squire.

Going by new PCB set up I al sure there will be positive news and positive development bw the two booards

 

[Hasan123]

They will only go if they feel it’s safe. We have no right to tell other humans where is safe or not. We may think Pakistan is safe, but clearly the rest of the world doesn’t.

I hope if they don’t go, we respect their decision.

My personal opinion is that they won’t go.

 

[sweep_shot]

I personally feel that Bangladeshis can easily tour Pakistan. Situation is not that bad currently.

However, relation between BCB and PCB is not great currently. Hence, I don't see BD going there.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

In reality, I don't think it'll happen. There are political differences, but that's not the big deal - BD Govt. and Cricket administration are quite positive for a normal cricket tie (with PAK - I know it because I have good contacts in BCB Board);

Since when? BCB may have an OK relationship with PCB (even that is 50-50 given the # of cancelled series by both boards in recent past), but to say the diplomatic relationship between the two countries is frosty would be an understatement.

With SL sending their A team, I think BCB should offer to make a compromise with PCB. They should send their full strength-squad to Pakistan for the T20 series (subject to adequate security plans) and then have the Test series in the UAE. If the PCB is totally unwilling, BCB should offer to pay all the costs of the Test series in UAE so PCB can get to break even (even though teams like WI, NZ, SL probably lose PCB money also).

BCB are already losing a Test series vs Australia, they really shouldn't forfeit another series unless the PCB is wholly unwilling to cooperate.

 

[King-Misbah]

No! It is so evident from the behaviour of their PM, her hatred towards Pakistan and her relationship with India.

 

[MMHS]

Since when? BCB may have an OK relationship with PCB (even that is 50-50 given the # of cancelled series by both boards in recent past), but to say the diplomatic relationship between the two countries is frosty would be an understatement.

With SL sending their A team, I think BCB should offer to make a compromise with PCB. They should send their full strength-squad to Pakistan for the T20 series (subject to adequate security plans) and then have the Test series in the UAE. If the PCB is totally unwilling, BCB should offer to pay all the costs of the Test series in UAE so PCB can get to break even (even though teams like WI, NZ, SL probably lose PCB money also).

BCB are already losing a Test series vs Australia, they really shouldn't forfeit another series unless the PCB is wholly unwilling to cooperate.

BCB sent the A squad to play in PAK last year and I believe the U16 team is on way. Couple of years back, just before PCB cancelling the tour, the development squad was scheduled to tour PAK. Sending a National team has some other obligations beyond BCB's control, but BCB didn't block BD players in PSL, play in PAK for PSL or for World XI.

It'll be a tough route back for PAK - and PCB has to change it's SOP (Standard Operating Process) first, other wise the wait will be prolonged only. SAF managed to keep their cricket intact after 20 years of complete isolation - I don't have that confidence on PCB .... another few years, PAK will become a country of T20 mercenaries.

 

[Professor]

Most of BD top stars have played in Pakistan during the PSL. So I would think the players would not have a issue with touring if the board/government allows it.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Theyll make an excuse again on behalf of the BCCI

 

[saeed5646]

Seems like repeat of 2012 all over again.A random person in bd will filed petition in court and bd will with draw series once again.

Also due to political situation between 2 countries series might be cancelled once again

 

[Executioner]

I still think this tour is unlikely. I have the feeling that this tour will be arranged in the UAE.

But in 3-4 years time Bangladesh will definitely tour Pakistan.

 

[MMHS]

I still think this tour is unlikely. I have the feeling that this tour will be arranged in the UAE.

But in 3-4 years time Bangladesh will definitely tour Pakistan.

This Series won't be cancelled - it's worth of 120 points. PCB will arrange it .... in UAE

 

[saeed5646]

This Series won't be cancelled - it's worth of 120 points. PCB will arrange it .... in UAE

Indeed who will want to missed out on golden 120 points .

Just 6 point difference between bd and Afghanistan in test ranking .oh boy 2020 is coming fast for bd than Pakistan.

 

[sweep_shot]

Indeed who will want to missed out on golden 120 points .

Just 6 point difference between bd and Afghanistan in test ranking .oh boy 2020 is coming fast for bd than Pakistan.

Series is scheduled to take place in 4 months.

With the form BD is in, I will not be surprised if Pakistan win by an innings in both Tests.

 

[MMHS]

Indeed who will want to missed out on golden 120 points .����

Just 6 point difference between bd and Afghanistan in test ranking .oh boy 2020 is coming fast for bd than Pakistan. ��

Indeed, I am also waiting for that Series. In ICC Test Championship, our 6 opponents are AUS, ENG, IND, SRL, PAK & WI. Can't miss the chance of playing the bottom two teams - WIN will play in BD and they ended 0-2 last time; so I also don't want to miss the talent of Pakistan.

Also, only 4 points gap between PAK & WIN, just above BD-AFG in ranking table - oh boy, after 75 years of cricket .... after the AUS series it might go to 10+ gap provided that PAK wins 2-0 in Australia, therefore you are absolutely spot on, 2020 is coming fast for BD than PAK, who still has a little task left in 2019.

 

[MMHS]

Series is scheduled to take place in 4 months.

With the form BD is in, I will not be surprised if Pakistan win by an innings in both Tests.

Won't - you can come back to me later. If BD wins both toss - PAK won't win the Series.

 

[sweep_shot]

Won't - you can come back to me later. If BD wins both toss - PAK won't win the Series.

I hope so. But, recent performance doesn't instill any confidence.

Our Test form is completely gone.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Won't - you can come back to me later. If BD wins both toss - PAK won't win the Series.

With the way Pakistan's test team is currently your right. But if Misbah makes good selections and tactics and selects players like Gohar, Abid, Sami Aslam, Fawad Alam etc. And drops duds Azhar and Shafiq then we can win 2-0.

 

[saeed5646]

Indeed, I am also waiting for that Series. In ICC Test Championship, our 6 opponents are AUS, ENG, IND, SRL, PAK & WI. Can't miss the chance of playing the bottom two teams - WIN will play in BD and they ended 0-2 last time; so I also don't want to miss the talent of Pakistan.

Also, only 4 points gap between PAK & WIN, just above BD-AFG in ranking table - oh boy, after 75 years of cricket .... after the AUS series it might go to 10+ gap provided that PAK wins 2-0 in Australia, therefore you are absolutely spot on, 2020 is coming fast for BD than PAK, who still has a little task left in 2019.

I won't mind one bit playing against bd who are losing a test at home to newbie like Afghanistan actually i am more worried about Afghanistan then bd these days .

Westindies is exciting test side i like them they have rich history in cricket so won't mind one bit if they replace Pakistan in test ranking it won't be that shameful than newbie over taking bd in 2 format . Pakistan players like minnow bashing so cannot wait to see your trundle are bashed to oblivion

 

[MMHS]

I won't mind one bit playing against bd who are losing a test at home to newbie like Afghanistan actually i am more worried about Afghanistan then bd these days .

Westindies is exciting test side i like them they have rich history in cricket so won't mind one bit if they replace Pakistan in test ranking it won't be that shameful than newbie over taking bd in 2 format . Pakistan players like minnow bashing so cannot wait to see your trundle are bashed to oblivion

I am exactly saying the same - we'll play PAK in Test series, in UAE ... and PCB will arrange it. Happy

 

[MMHS]

With the way Pakistan's test team is currently your right. But if Misbah makes good selections and tactics and selects players like Gohar, Abid, Sami Aslam, Fawad Alam etc. And drops duds Azhar and Shafiq then we can win 2-0.

It depends on toss to be honest - PAK won't bat well against our finger spinners in UAE on 2nd & 4th innings. This guy Patel came and won a Test for Kiwis, not sure if he is alive (no offence, just joking) since then - PAK batters will face 4 finger spinners on UAE tracks.

If we bat first, batting won't be a big issue for sure - PAK's spin attack is no where near what Afghans produced on Chittagong dust bowl. So finger crossed ....

 

[m.awais]

Well... If PCB insists on having the test series in Pakistan and BCB refuses to tour than in that case which country will lose the points? Pak or Bangladesh?

 

[MMHS]

Well... If PCB insists on having the test series in Pakistan and BCB refuses to tour than in that case which country will lose the points? Pak or Bangladesh?

Second worst case - points will be shared. Worst case is that ICC will ask PCB to arrange the series outside PAK or forfeit the points (not necessarily full points'll be awarded to BD).

This is where credibility comes - last time, when PAK's credibility was questioned as WC hosts, ICC did their best to facilitate - found a team for PCB to host at home and prove their credibility. Result, we had seen in live telecast (I from mainland Europe with very little cricket interest, so certainly good chunk of world's 7 billion people did watch it as well).

NO WAY, ICC will force any International team, to visit PAK in foreseeable future - neither will penalize them either, and this can go for long, long, long, really long time.

PCB has to do it the tough way, and ALONE - convincing countries to visit PAK, start can be forcing PSL players to play in PAK. So far, in both fields they have shown their incompetence, you can say double standards - burnt bridges with boards that could have been interested to tour PAK for mutual benefits and allowed PSL "stars" selectively choose game (s) to avoid travelling PAK. What do you think - PCB is arranging a small part of their PSL in two cities, flying players from UAE back & forth ..... and ICC will force (penalize) it's other members to travel same country for 4 weeks tour?

 

[m.awais]

In my opinion, Pakistan would offer Bangladesh to play T20s in Pakistan and Test series in UAE. Most probably, Bangladesh will accept it as they won't be staying in Pakistan for longer period of time and on the other hand PCB would be able to generate much more revenue as compared to Test series.

 

[MenInG]

Second worst case - points will be shared. Worst case is that ICC will ask PCB to arrange the series outside PAK or forfeit the points (not necessarily full points'll be awarded to BD).

This is where credibility comes - last time, when PAK's credibility was questioned as WC hosts, ICC did their best to facilitate - found a team for PCB to host at home and prove their credibility. Result, we had seen in live telecast (I from mainland Europe with very little cricket interest, so certainly good chunk of world's 7 billion people did watch it as well).

NO WAY, ICC will force any International team, to visit PAK in foreseeable future - neither will penalize them either, and this can go for long, long, long, really long time.

PCB has to do it the tough way, and ALONE - convincing countries to visit PAK, start can be forcing PSL players to play in PAK. So far, in both fields they have shown their incompetence, you can say double standards - burnt bridges with boards that could have been interested to tour PAK for mutual benefits and allowed PSL "stars" selectively choose game (s) to avoid travelling PAK. What do you think - PCB is arranging a small part of their PSL in two cities, flying players from UAE back & forth ..... and ICC will force (penalize) it's other members to travel same country for 4 weeks tour?

Bangladesh should not send anything but their best team - if security not good for main team, same applies to other cricketers.

 

[Green Patriot]

They will not come, i am pretty sure.

 

[Shafi]

PCB should stop act like beggar from the street and concentrate to modernise domestic set up, coaching/ training facilities and cricket tools. We can also invest money for good drainage system by buying Super Sopper instead of helicopter wings.

 

[MMHS]

Bangladesh should not send anything but their best team - if security not good for main team, same applies to other cricketers.

BCB can’t afford to send a compromised squad to PAK (or India) - the aftermath of a loss will be too much. Particularly, in PAK if they send a substandard team and that team gets hammered, few people at BCB will lose job from the backlash of Awami League leadership.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I think they should not , if none of the western countries are willing to tour pakistan then why should bangladesh's players lives are of less value.

Pakistan isnt doing anything to inspire confidence either , giving a presidential level security means that there is a threat of an attack. The day the players can visit pakistan without any presidential level security then it will be totally fine for players.

 

[MenInG]

Stick to the topic guys

 

[Savak]

I think they should not , if none of the western countries are willing to tour pakistan then why should bangladesh's players lives are of less value.

Pakistan isnt doing anything to inspire confidence either , giving a presidential level security means that there is a threat of an attack. The day the players can visit pakistan without any presidential level security then it will be totally fine for players.

I challenge any foreign player willing to visit Pakistan, roam around without requesting for security.

Talk is cheap

 

[JibranAnsari]

I challenge any foreign player willing to visit Pakistan, roam around without requesting for security.

Talk is cheap

challenge the 10 srilankan players

 

[DRsohail]

BCB can’t afford to send a compromised squad to PAK (or India) - the aftermath of a loss will be too much. Particularly, in PAK if they send a substandard team and that team gets hammered, few people at BCB will lose job from the backlash of Awami League leadership.

Bangladesh is unlikely to win even with full strength squad but yes your point is valid.

 

[MMHS]

Bangladesh is unlikely to win even with full strength squad but yes your point is valid.

Result is immaterial- full BD team can get white washed, but sat Liton opts out of the tour, his replacement scores a hundred ... and team loses - junior league goons will take Papon’s (himself an MP, with 99% popular vote) underwear.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Bangladesh's foriegn policy is to do... what India tells them.

We will beat them in the UAE, no problem.

 

[ZaudStorm]

Bangladesh's foriegn policy is to do... what India tells them.

We will beat them in the UAE, no problem.

Why do you gotta drag India into everything? And yeah about the "beating" part, that didn't go too well when you faced a weakened BD line up last time.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Why do you gotta drag India into everything? And yeah about the "beating" part, that didn't go too well when you faced a weakened BD line up last time.

Last time we faced you in London and it was an easy victory for Pakistan in the World Cup. Not sure which 'last time' you are reffering to.

Pakistan shouldnt tour Bangladesh either. See you in the UAE for another easy victory.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

Genuine question, I haven't followed this issue too much in depth. But you seem annoyed that Pakistan pulled out of BD tour at last second , I searched it up and it was in 2017 and the PCB chairman did make a fair point - we visited BD in 2011 and 2015 (2 times in a row) and there was no reciprocal tour. Isn't that fair, though? Teams generally visit once away, then home, never 3 away series in a row.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

Genuine question, I haven't followed this issue too much in depth. But you seem annoyed that Pakistan pulled out of BD tour at last second , I searched it up and it was in 2017 and the PCB chairman did make a fair point - we visited BD in 2011 and 2015 (2 times in a row) and there was no reciprocal tour. Isn't that fair, though? Teams generally visit once away, then home, never 3 away series in a row.

2015 one was PAK’s home series that PCB declined to host in UAE, so BCB hosted it on revenue share model & PCB was compensated for that. There has been several post on this. In any case, you can’t pull out of a tour at the 11th hour after agreeing the tour.

 

[ZaudStorm]

Last time we faced you in London and it was an easy victory for Pakistan in the World Cup. Not sure which 'last time' you are reffering to.

Pakistan shouldnt tour Bangladesh either. See you in the UAE for another easy victory.

The last time in the UAE of course, you couldn't chase 240 odd against a weakened BD with no Shakib and Tamim. Pakistan isn't exactly a strong side so it isn't hard to beat them. If BD are in half decent form they should be able to win the series quite easily.

 

[moghul]

Security is not an issue, BD player would be safe in Pakistan but BCCI won;t allow them , no chance.

 

[sweep_shot]

I personally would love to see Bangladesh touring Pakistan for a full series. Security is no longer a big issue.

It is all up to Nazmul Hossain Papon now. He is pretty much the dictator of Bangladesh cricket.

 

[sweep_shot]

The last time in the UAE of course, you couldn't chase 240 odd against a weakened BD with no Shakib and Tamim. Pakistan isn't exactly a strong side so it isn't hard to beat them. If BD are in half decent form they should be able to win the series quite easily.

To be fair, that BD team was high in spirit. Present BD team is low in confidence.

They need to get form back first.

 

[Mesozoic]

Security is not an issue, BD player would be safe in Pakistan but BCCI won;t allow them , no chance.

Bangladesh refuse to come citing security issues - BCCI's conspiracy.

 

[hadi123]

Hope so but it depends on the political situation between the two countries. Some Bangladeshi players also visited for the World XI series and some went to play PSL so would be great if it happens

 

[MenInG]

Bangladesh refuse to come citing security issues - BCCI's conspiracy.

You have no idea if pressure is being applied behind the scenes.

 

[Mesozoic]

You have no idea if pressure is being applied behind the scenes.

Australia have not toured Pak for two decades.

New Zealand have not toured for 15 years.

England for 14 years. And on and on and on.

Why ? Is BCCI pressurising these boards as well .

 

[sweep_shot]

BCCI has influence over BCB. It is not a secret. But, not sure if BCCI has anything to do with BD not touring Pakistan. It is possible but not proven yet.

My theory is PCB and BCB didn't agree with something and things just became a stalemate.

 

[MenInG]

The Tigers are scheduled to play two Tests and three T20Is in February, 2020, while the Tigresses are slated to contest two ODIs and three T20Is later in October

BCB cricket operations committee chairman Akram Khan said they will come to a decision regarding the senior men’s and women’s teams’ planned tours of Pakistan within the next two weeks.

The Tigers are scheduled to play two Tests and three T20Is in February, 2020, while the Tigresses are slated to contest two ODIs and three T20Is later in October.

BCB recently said it would send a security inspection delegation to Pakistan to assess the scenario.

The international teams have been unwilling to tour the country since a militant attack on the Sri Lanka team bus in Lahore in 2009.

According to the International Cricket Council Future Tour Program, Pakistan will host Bangladesh for two Test matches and three T20Is, starting in January this year

The Lankans though were later convinced of fool-proof security by the Pakistan authorities and are currently touring the country for three ODIs and as many T20Is.

‘’You know our board president (Nazmul Hasan) has always said security is our first priority. We have that in mind. This is not just a decision of the board. We haven’t decided as to whether we will play in Dubai or Pakistan. We are discussing,’’ said Akram.

‘’This decision will be finalized in a board meeting and the green signal has to come from both sides (board and government),’’ he concluded.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/2019/10/06/decision-on-tours-of-pakistan-within-two-weeks

 

[Sher Khan]

If the government has to give green light to touring pakistan then i dont see them coming to Pakistan.

The prime minister of Bangladesh is highly anti-pakistani.

 

[MenInG]

On Sunday, the indoor facilities at Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium in Mirpur saw around 30 cricketers of different divisions attend the Beep Test. Alarmingly, majority of them were attending the test for the second time having failed the previous one.


The fitness regime set for the players by the BCB [Bangladesh Cricket Board] for the upcoming National Cricket League is being widely praised. The BCB national selection has set level 11 in Beep Test as the minimum requirement to participate in the NCL that is set to start on October 10. The condition is being expected to put competition into the ‘excitement less’ first-class cricket competition of the country.

The system has however also put a big list of famed cricketers, both old and young, into trouble as they failed to achieve enough marks in the test and they are now seeking ‘special consideration’ from the selection panel so that they are allowed to participate in the tournament this year.

On Sunday, the indoor facilities at Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium in Mirpur saw around 30 cricketers of different divisions attend the Beep Test. Alarmingly, majority of them were attending the test for the second time having failed the previous one.

Figures in shape of Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Tushar Imran, Nasir Hossain, Elias Sunny and few other known names attended the test on Sunday. Their performances were bettered from the previous time but still did not meet the required level. Top order batsman Imrul Kayes and right-arm pacer Al Amin Hossain were the only two known faces to have put some impression with result of level 12 and 12.2 respectively. For Ashraful and Razzak it was yet another failure having scored 10 and 10.1 respectively although they improved comparing to the previous test.

The situation of the renowned names failing in the fitness test has developed an argument that age and on-field performance should also be considered into the selection process. Out of favor national left-arm spinner Razzak echoed similar sentiment to the media on Sunday.

“Performance should be considered first. A performer should have a minimum consideration but it does not mean that the fitness level will be poor. There has to be a minimum level of fitness, if not, the player should not be considered for selection,” said Razzak to the reporters.

It is being widely discussed that the list of players with below par fitness has put the national selectors on a bumpy ride. In modern day cricket, fitness is considered as one of the keys to perform. Pakistan national cricket team, which is not known as the fittest of sides historically, has set a minimum level of 13 in Beep Test for selection. Meanwhile, a similar level of fitness is maintained even by the Australia regional teams. To meet the world standard the BCB selectors had taken a similar initiative but only to face a dilemma.

Member of the national selection panel Habibul Bashar admitted that some players will be considered for other factors such as ‘age and performance’.

“But it [other factors] will be considered for this season only. We will strictly follow the fitness test from next season. We have an ambition to set a minimum standard for the National League and fitness is a chief factor to have that,” said former Bangladesh skipper Bashar to Dhaka Tribune.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2019/10/07/beep-test-puts-some-players-under-peril

 

[octavian]

Australia have not toured Pak for two decades.

New Zealand have not toured for 15 years.

England for 14 years. And on and on and on.

Why ? Is BCCI pressurising these boards as well .

Comparing Bangladesh with Australia, NZ and England )

 

[sweep_shot]

Comparing Bangladesh with Australia, NZ and England )

Are you saying Bangladeshi lives are inferior to white lives?

You can call a team minnow and other names but all lives are precious.

Anyway. I would love to see BD tour Pakistan now. I don't think there is any major security issue currently.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Are you saying Bangladeshi lives are inferior to white lives?

You can call a team minnow and other names but all lives are precious.

Anyway. I would love to see BD tour Pakistan now. I don't think there is any major security issue currently.

Apologies,
maybe hes trying to say that BD team is a minnow, which i dont agree. but BCB is trying to say that Bangladeshi women lives are inferior to Bangladeshi men ?

 

[MMHS]

Apologies,
maybe hes trying to say that BD team is a minnow, which i dont agree. but BCB is trying to say that Bangladeshi women lives are inferior to Bangladeshi men ?

No, security assessments are done not like that - it’s done by professionals and they know how to do their job. It’s about “potential” of being a target of terrorist attack, for which men’s cricket team is much more lucrative than women team. I for one didn’t even know that BD ladies team travels around!!!!!

Each risk assessment has a “risk threshold” & “risk tolerance” set by professionals - BD junior teams or ladies team is below that threshold than the men’s team as per the assessment, hence they are allowed to travel; more importantly this tour won’t be blocked on legal cause because of that risk assessment. It’s not about isolating Pakistan or being instructed by BCCI, though trolls here try to console themselves in that route.

If only those buffoons running PCB could have understood what was the “risk factor” of a Srilanka team travelling to Pakistan proving PCB’s credibility as WC host ..... trolls here would have enjoyed cricket in Pakistan from long back, instead of sprouting rubbish in a blog.

 

[sweep_shot]

Apologies,
maybe hes trying to say that BD team is a minnow, which i dont agree. but BCB is trying to say that Bangladeshi women lives are inferior to Bangladeshi men ?

Very good question.

If women can visit, men should be able to visit too.

 

[Mainul]

Comparing Bangladesh with Australia, NZ and England )

Even Nepal is comparable to these elite cricket teams in the same way in same parameter in security issue. Every life is valuable, more than playing cricket.

 

[Cypher]

Are you saying Bangladeshi lives are inferior to white lives?

You can call a team minnow and other names but all lives are precious.

Anyway. I would love to see BD tour Pakistan now. I don't think there is any major security issue currently.

I think he's saying that Bangladesh are more likely to tour than the other countries because they hold less authority

 

[ExplicitAI]

They bailed out on us twice a few years ago when they were meant to tour us, an important life lesson is to never trust anyone. Don't get burned by the same flame twice and have no expectations. If they want to come then they will.

 

[Pakistanian]

This is quite touchy issue and I am not sure how it'll be perceived in PP. Personally, I think BD should travel to PAK, obviously subject to security assessments. It's a part of Test Championship tournament, therefore the series must go and PAK has the right to host it at home.

In reality, I don't think it'll happen. There are political differences, but that's not the big deal - BD Govt. and Cricket administration are quite positive for a normal cricket tie (with PAK - I know it because I have good contacts in BCB Board); but there are two issues now - first one as I said many times, a standard is set, and every time a BD tour is planned to PAK, that trip will need to pass the legal merit. I see a problem there. The way SLCB sent a skeleton of a squad, I am sure BCB won't do that for their own good - if BD sends even a slightly compromised squad and that team gets hammered in PAK, it'll create riot in BD. Shakib has skipped several tours in past, but if BCB leaves it (touring to PAK) on players and then result goes south (regardless of who is playing - you don't need logic to create a political issue), BCB and it's office bearer won't survive the back lash.

Second issue is self created by PCB - Papon (Nazmul Hasan) took it almost personally when PCB withdrew the last planned tour at 11th hour (I heard Papon personally called PCB Office, not sure though). As ACB Chairman, he has to be politically correct, but I am damn sure that guy won't allow it to happen so easily. And, there are several other senior members of BCB board didn't forget that - some of them are very close to PAK Cricket and former players, but ego is something that doesn't follow head. There are two issues here as well - first, PCB has to compensate (some what) for that cancelled tour. Second - PAK has to host BD in UAE, the issue again here is the reason (not hosting BD in UAE) PCB gives - financial viability, though they are hosting WIN, SRL, NZ there.

I think, best way to move forward is to arrange the Test Championship in UAE, followed by a PAK tour to BD (may be even as a revenue sharing model).... and then followed by, subject to security assessments, a return trip by BD to PAK. At current state, actually no team is obliged to tour any other country, rather it's the unofficial "power" that settles issues - AUS toured IND 3 times in its' first 50 years - 1958, 1969, 1978; same AUS is happy to tour IND every year twice, if they are invited!!!! Similarly, PCB can't force any country to tour PAK, or play even bilateral series in neutral venue, and they are not in the bargaining lead, on top of that with a poor attitude - they'll have to play smart here. PAK's calendar is beyond pathetic in next few years - team needs to play as much as possible, otherwise most of the young PAK players will be lost to T20 leagues .... and dirty cricket. I liked the recent domestic reforms, but what it comes with is a hefty bill for PCB - this is not the time to show attitude, rather they should follow money trail, otherwise things will be forced back to squire.

That's probably because Bangladesh bailed on touring Pakistan a couple times before that, I think once in protest Pakistan didn't let any Pakistani cricketer play in the BPL.

 

[MMHS]

That's probably because Bangladesh bailed on touring Pakistan a couple times before that, I think once in protest Pakistan didn't let any Pakistani cricketer play in the BPL.

Read the history first with an open mind - you should find enough clues why your cricket & its custodians are at this bankruptcy state now.

 

[Pakistanian]

Read the history first with an open mind - you should find enough clues why your cricket & its custodians are at this bankruptcy state now.

None of that is relevant to why Bangladesh bailed on touring Pakistan, don't take things personally.

 

[MMHS]

None of that is relevant to why Bangladesh bailed on touring Pakistan, don't take things personally.

Nothing personal here - I don’t manage BCB’s office. But, you guys have been fooled many times by the stooges holding PCB office, last one was the case against BCCI. I am just not ready to accept that someone should release frustration thinking of a soft target ....

In the history of cricket management, show me a 2nd example that the host paid the tourist board part of revenue as they are hosting what was supposed to be a reverse fixture. And, some tools here tried to earn some mileage for that - as if BCB & BD fans were striving for the show of PAK Talunt - that’s the attitude problem at every level, which was the root cause of PCB’s cancellation of 2017 series at 12th hour; get over it - things might start to improve.

PAK players were not banned for BPL - rather PCB showed attitude to issue NOC to their players, believing own fantasy of BPL’s selling point (PAK players), like some here in PP as well (as I say - PP is a fair reflection of PCB also). So, BCB just showed the size of PCB’s aukat..... something was shown 2nd time when your almost full National squad left national T20 tournament halfway for BPL despite PCB’s prior objection .... and your captain carried drinks at BPL!!!!

Bangladesh should be your best friend, at least in cricket - you don’t need to be a genius to figure out why. Why it’s not, isn’t a mystery for me at least.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

We've survived without BCCI money for years, we dont need appeasement from the BCB of all places. Either they come or not.

 

[Danyaalr01]

I think they should not , if none of the western countries are willing to tour pakistan then why should bangladesh's players lives are of less value.

Pakistan isnt doing anything to inspire confidence either , giving a presidential level security means that there is a threat of an attack. The day the players can visit pakistan without any presidential level security then it will be totally fine for players.

People still don't understand. Sri Lanka would only tour if they got such security. If it were Pakistan's choice the security would be much less, but to get people to tour they have to have such security. They don't have any other option.

 

[MenInG]

Bangladesh iconic all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan went to play the 2019 edition of the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) via New York’s UNICEF programme after playing back-to-back series and tournament on home territory. His CPL team Barbados Tridents progresses to the final where they will lock horns with Guyana Amazon Warriors for the coveted title today (Sunday). As a result, his NOC period has been extended for two days.

Now he will come back home from the West Indies on October 14 or 15. After being arrived in Dhaka, he needs to take some rest. So, he probably could not play the next round of the ongoing edition of the National Cricket League (NCL), which will begin from October 17.

Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) director and its Cricket Operations Committee Chairman Akram Khan stated this to the media at his BCB office of the Sher-e-Bangla National cricket Stadium (SBNCS) in Mirpur yesterday. “His (Shakib Al Hasan) NOC was for last match. As his team moves to the final, he phoned me and talked with me regarding the matter. We have extended his NOC for the next two days,” said Akram Khan. “But he is scheduled to reach here in Bangladesh towards October 13-14. But there is a matter of rest for him because he has been playing in CPL after playing Test against Afghanistan and Tri-nation series on home turf,” Akram told media.

“He could not play the second round of the NCL. But he will be available in the training camp for the India tour, the camp which will begin on October 25,” he added. Akran said they are giving priority to head coach Russell Craig Domingo’s opinion to take the final decision regarding the team selection and formation.

“It fully depends on coach. We’re now following the suggestion of the coach. The coach allows two rounds of the games in NCL for those who will play Test and Twenty20 in India series. We made compulsory for the national players to play the initial two rounds of games of the NCL,” he said.

“Actually it will be done what the coach will say. The final decision will be taken after consulting with the coach,” he also said.

The BCB director reiterated they will start working on Pakistan tour after getting the green signal from the government.

He also said a security team from the government will soon tour in Pakistan where no BCB representative will be included.

“Our CEO is now abroad. After his coming, the decision will be discussed. I earlier told it will be needed from both sides' agreement to reach a final decision,” he said.

“A security team from the government level will go in Pakistan. There is no one from the board. It will be only for the government people. We will just work on the basis of their report,” he added.

“We’ve prepared the schedule. We fixed the schedule for the BPL for so long when we will do it. Then we have Pakistan tour that has also been fixed for us. There is nothing of changing for schedule or date here.”

“We can understand it clearly. We have seen it in past. Actually we have nothing to do here. We will think what is good for us. We have no need to see what others are doing. Even, we have no gain for us from it. We will do what will be better for us. It is important what our honourable board president repeatedly told that security is our top priority. And we give top priority on it.”

“There is a matter of security. Our development is very important whether it is women’s team or age-group team though there is also security matter.”

http://www.theindependentbd.com/post/219255

 

[octavian]

Read the history first with an open mind - you should find enough clues why your cricket & its custodians are at this bankruptcy state now.

That's another blatant lie. PCB is not in bankruptcy state. Its doing better than most boards including BCB.

Your judgement is clouded not only in the financial matters but also in the other matters.

 

[warcry]

either bangladesh tour pakistan or no tour. no cricket is a better alternative than having a tour in the uae, that place and those conditions are ruining our team.

 

[MenInG]

KARACHI: A couple of series in Pakistan involving Bangladesh women and BD’s junior men’s U-16 outfit are scheduled to commence in the last week of this month but reports say that the visitors are keen to assess the security arrangements prior to the tours.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), on the one hand, is upbeat about the two series and has already announced the training camp for women cricketers in Muridke.

“As of now, both Bangladesh outfits are coming as per schedule and we are gearing up for the series accordingly. The PCB is in constant touch with our Bangladesh counterparts in this regard,” the PCB spokesperson told this correspondent.

On the other hand, the spokesperson of the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB), Jalal Yunus was of the opinion that the above mentioned trips were still subject to security clearance for which the assessment team would visit Pakistan very soon.

“The security assessment team will reach Pakistan in a few days and on the basis of their report a final call with regards to the tour will be made,” Jalal Yunus said

Bangladesh women team is scheduled to reach Lahore on October 23 to feature in three T20I matches and two ODIs in Lahore. The series starts with the opening T20I at the Gaddafi Stadium on October 26.

“Government’s nod is essential for the Pakistan tour. The time is running out but there will be no delay in the itinerary if the trips go on”, the BCB spokesman added

Regarding the senior men’s team trip to Pakistan in January, the BCB spokesperson said it will be pondered upon in due course of time.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1511066/bd-security-assessment-team-to-visit-pakistan

 

[Sir-fraz]

BCB to send security team to Pakistan

Bangladesh Cricket Board president Nazmul Hasan informed that the security team had to push back the visit for unavoidable reasons and that they had written to BCB about the delay


Bangladesh is likely to send a four-member intelligence team to Pakistan Thursday in order to assess the security arrangements that will be in place during the scheduled tours of both the national men’s and women’s teams and the U-17 side.

Bangladesh Cricket Board president Nazmul Hasan informed that the security team had to push back the visit for unavoidable reasons and that they had written to BCB about the delay.

“We did not have any discussion on this [in the just concluded International Cricket Council meeting in Dubai]. An intelligence team will travel to Pakistan to assess the security and based on the report we will take a decision,” said Nazmul to the media Tuesday following his return from the ICC meeting.

"We were informed that the team will travel to Pakistan [Thursday]. The decision is not fully in our hand. Security is top-most priority for us and it has to be placed properly for us to reach a positive decision.

“All of our teams are equal when it comes to having proper security let it be the women’s team or U-17 side. We can only send a team following security clearance. We are prepared to send a team to Pakistan, but only after clearance from the government,” he added.

Bangladesh women’s team along with the U-17 side are slated to travel to Pakistan next week before the men’s team’s scheduled tour in January next year.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/2019/10/16/bcb-to-send-security-team-to-pakistan

 

[MenInG]

The Bangladesh Cricket Board's (BCB) security delegation will arrive in Karachi today (Thursday) to review security arrangements in Karachi, Lahore and twin cities of Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

As per reports, the security delegation would review security arrangements in Karachi on Friday and Lahore on Saturday. It is pertinent to inform that the Bangladesh women's cricket team and Under-16 cricket team are due to visit Pakistan in the last week of October.

In addition, the delegation will also visit Islamabad and Rawalpindi, where the U-16 team plans to hold matches.

Pakistan is determined to host Bangladesh Women's and U-16 teams after a successful tour of Sri Lanka. Meanwhile, as per Bangladesh Cricket Board spokesperson Jalal Younas, the tours by both teams are subject to security clearance.

The delegation will also be briefed on the visit of the Bangladesh men's team to Pakistan, scheduled to be held next year.

According to the schedule, the Bangladesh women's team will have to arrive in Lahore on October 23 for a series of three T20Is and two ODIs.

https://www.brecorder.com/2019/10/17/531869/bcb-security-delegation-to-arrive-in-pakistan-today/

 

[MenInG]

The intelligence team’s report will also decide the future of Bangladesh national men’s and women’s team tour of Pakistan

Bangladesh U16 cricket is on stand-by to travel to Pakistan Monday evening. The age-level Bangladesh side will only travel following a security clearance from a team of Bangladeshi officials who are already in Pakistan to access security arrangements.

The intelligence team’s report will also decide the future of Bangladesh national men’s and women’s team tour of Pakistan. The women’s team is scheduled to tour this month while the men’s team is to travel to Pakistan in January next year.

“An inspection team is already in Pakistan. Bangladesh (U16) team will travel based on the report from the inspection team. We have taken our preparation [and have the team on stand-by] however, a final decision on travelling will only come after receiving the report,” said BCB chief executive officer Nizamuddin Chowdhury to the media Sunday.

Bangladesh U16 are to play two three-day matches and three one-day matches against their Pakistani counterparts. It is understood that a decision of going ahead with the tour has already been taken by BCB and that, only an ‘official declaration’ is pending.

Bangladesh U16 coach Mizanur Rahman informed that he is quite confident of his team travelling to Pakistan.

“But our main focus is on the team performing and getting positive results against Pakistan. As far as I know, the tour is happening but that is something we [the team] should not be thinking about,” said Mizanur to the media.

Mizanur informed that the U16 cricketers are not concerned over touring Pakistan, rather they are keen to play.

“I didn’t need to make them understand the playing condition that is going to be in Pakistan. I feel they are ready to play. It is good that their full focus in on the game and nothing else,” said Mizanur.

“They are not at all concerned that they will need to travel to Pakistan. I did not see that in them. Their attitude is that they want to play and perform well,” he added.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/...eam-wait-for-green-signal-for-a-pakistan-tour

 

[MenInG]

Bangladesh will be travelling to Pakistan in February next year to play two Tests and three T20Is according to the FTP. Concerns about the availability of the players and the coaching staff for the Pakistan tour have already arrived as most of the members of the coaching staff have declined to travel.

According to some sources, head coach Russell Domingo has declined to travel along with pace bowling coach Charl Langeveldt, batting consultant Neil McKenzie, fielding coach Ryan Cook and newly included physiotherapist Julian Calefato.

Spin-bowling coach Daniel Vettori, who arrived in Bangladesh on October 25 has also declined to travel.

Only the strength and conditioning coach Mario Villavarayan has agreed to visit Pakistan. Nizamuddin Chowdhury, the CEO of BCB has informed that they will make a decision regarding this after assessing the situation properly.

“We haven’t had any formal discussion in this regard as yet and when we have that we can tell you more precisely about the whole situation.”

The U16 team and the Women’s team are currently in Pakistan to play against the hosts. However, Women’s head coach Anju Jain along with her two compatriots refused to tour with the team and didn’t travel in the end. Former coach Dipu Roy Chowdhury went with the team in place of her.

Read the full story here https://www.bdcrictime.com/bangladesh-coaching-staff-decline-to-go-in-pakistan/

 

[Joseph Gomes]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bangladesh doesn't send a team, it's not like they would win a single match in the tournament anyway.

 

[Osama Shafeeqe]

ICC and Pakistan should take a stand. ICC have cleared Pakistan as safe and sent their umpires to officiate the games than it means the country is safe for cricket. If individual players refuse to see this and personally don't want too visit Pakistan because of their sense of what Pakistan is like and boards refuse to tour because their players don't want to then they should forfeit these games. It is not fair for Pakistan to not get home games in the test championship just because players don't want to visit the country. If the royal family is willing to visit Pakistan and Pakistan has had multiple international teams/players visiting successfully then there really shouldn't be any excuses not to visit.

 

[saeed5646]

Bangladesh will be travelling to Pakistan in February next year to play two Tests and three T20Is according to the FTP. Concerns about the availability of the players and the coaching staff for the Pakistan tour have already arrived as most of the members of the coaching staff have declined to travel.

According to some sources, head coach Russell Domingo has declined to travel along with pace bowling coach Charl Langeveldt, batting consultant Neil McKenzie, fielding coach Ryan Cook and newly included physiotherapist Julian Calefato.

Spin-bowling coach Daniel Vettori, who arrived in Bangladesh on October 25 has also declined to travel.

Only the strength and conditioning coach Mario Villavarayan has agreed to visit Pakistan. Nizamuddin Chowdhury, the CEO of BCB has informed that they will make a decision regarding this after assessing the situation properly.

“We haven’t had any formal discussion in this regard as yet and when we have that we can tell you more precisely about the whole situation.”

The U16 team and the Women’s team are currently in Pakistan to play against the hosts. However, Women’s head coach Anju Jain along with her two compatriots refused to tour with the team and didn’t travel in the end. Former coach Dipu Roy Chowdhury went with the team in place of her.

Read the full story here https://www.bdcrictime.com/bangladesh-coaching-staff-decline-to-go-in-pakistan/

Pretty smart people i must say they are lying a platform to cancel the trip to Pakistan.i would say pcb should move on they ain't coming especially with current pm at helm