Will the BCB send its team to Pakistan?

[cricketjoshila]

I thought I will see majority posts from BD fans. Seems like cricketjoshila is all BD fans combined in one, specially when it comes to anti-Pakistan agenda.

On topic: if BD women team, SL Men team can visit, there should be no excuse. Pakistan is indeed safe, and as per the latest safety index for cities released, it is safer than Mumbai, Delhi, Melbourne, and several European cities. Why not visit and enjoy the hospitality. Stop being dictated by BCCI all the time BCB, man up and tour.

Its not about BD.

Its about,

How pakistani posters think,

1. That if SL tour, BD has no reason to refuse.

2. That since bcb is a smaller board, pcb can arm twist them and treat them with less respect.

3. That BCB takes dictation from bcci.

 

[aloo paratha]

Its not about BD.

Its about,

How pakistani posters think,

1. That if SL tour, BD has no reason to refuse.

2. That since bcb is a smaller board, pcb can arm twist them and treat them with less respect.

3. That BCB takes dictation from bcci.

They don't have any reason to refuse. Nobody does. ICC has declared Pakistan safe for cricket, all data shows Pakistan is MUCH safer now than it was in 2009. When somebody refuses it is based off a false perception, not because there is actually a security threat.

It's just rich coming from a board which is based in a country which itself isn't even close to being a utopia, who just recently sent their women's team and under 16 teams.

 

[ahmedzee]

Its not about BD.

Its about,

How pakistani posters think,

1. That if SL tour, BD has no reason to refuse.

2. That since bcb is a smaller board, pcb can arm twist them and treat them with less respect.

3. That BCB takes dictation from bcci.

All I hear is excuses coming out of BCB side, and all I hear from you is your hate for Pakistan and not missing out an opportunity to ridicule anything Pakistan. I have seen this hate for a while, but then that's ok, keep it coming.

As for Pakistan not being safe, here is a link on the safest and most dangerous cities of the world:
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/region_rankings.jsp?title=2019-mid&region=142

It was discussed in other thread as well.

Basically a city like Islamabad is safer than cities like:
Ahmedabad
Mumbai
Surat
Hyderabad
Pune
Chandigarh
Chennai
Bangalore
Kolkata


Imagine # of games that takes place in those cities. I don't see any Pakistani on this forum yapping about how unsafe it is to hold games there. Now don't come up and tell me that oh your link sucks or it is not an accredited organization to do such a survey, etc.

 

[ZaudStorm]

All I hear is excuses coming out of BCB side, and all I hear from you is your hate for Pakistan and not missing out an opportunity to ridicule anything Pakistan. I have seen this hate for a while, but then that's ok, keep it coming.

As for Pakistan not being safe, here is a link on the safest and most dangerous cities of the world:
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/region_rankings.jsp?title=2019-mid®ion=142

It was discussed in other thread as well.

Basically a city like Islamabad is safer than cities like:
Ahmedabad
Mumbai
Surat
Hyderabad
Pune
Chandigarh
Chennai
Bangalore
Kolkata


Imagine # of games that takes place in those cities. I don't see any Pakistani on this forum yapping about how unsafe it is to hold games there. Now don't come up and tell me that oh your link sucks or it is not an accredited organization to do such a survey, etc.

How about you guys wait for the SL tour to get over then see BCB's final decision before crying out loud? If everything sails smooth then I'm sure BCB will have no issues with touring. And Jesus please stop dragging BBCI into this, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BCB's DECISIONS. The obsession with India needs to stop.

 

[ZaudStorm]

It's just rich coming from a board which is based in a country which itself isn't even close to being a utopia, who just recently sent their women's team and under 16 teams.

Keeping this attitude up isn't gonna help anything, and it's our choice if we want to tour or not and one can't be forced against their will. If the SL tour goes well then most likely we'll be coming.

 

[ahmedzee]

How about you guys wait for the SL tour to get over then see BCB's final decision before crying out loud? If everything sails smooth then I'm sure BCB will have no issues with touring. And Jesus please stop dragging BBCI into this, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BCB's DECISIONS. The obsession with India needs to stop.

Before this SL tour, there have been several tours as well, including World XI. With passing day, Pakistan is getting safer. Unfortunately, this is only in Men's Cricket only. Women team, and other sports team keep coming to Pakistan and have been int he last 5 years. I advise others to take off the cricket goggles from their eyes and actually see it as a sporting event, considering other sports events in the country as well. After seeing that, it is appalling a team would refuse to play in Pakistan.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

I honestly think for the good of the game, subcontinent teams should play each other home and away. One sport we are all decent at and why deprive public of entertaiment I just do not understand. Small sport as it is.

 

[aloo paratha]

Keeping this attitude up isn't gonna help anything, and it's our choice if we want to tour or not and one can't be forced against their will. If the SL tour goes well then most likely we'll be coming.

Nobody is forcing anybody. At the end of the day if you decide not to come we, nor anybody else can really do anything about it.

 

[KingT]

How about you guys wait for the SL tour to get over then see BCB's final decision before crying out loud? If everything sails smooth then I'm sure BCB will have no issues with touring. And Jesus please stop dragging BBCI into this, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BCB's DECISIONS. The obsession with India needs to stop.

So you can send your women's and u16 team but not your men's team??

Do you consider their lives as inferior to the players in your men's team?

 

[Executioner]

So you can send your women's and u16 team but not your men's team??

Do you consider their lives as inferior to the players in your men's team?

For the millionth time I am sick of hearing this logic.

There is a term called "high-profile". The bigger fish attracts more interests. Srilankan Cricket Team was a "high profile" team. And while the value of each life is the same to themselves and their own families, we have much greater connection to the national team and thus we don't want them to take risk naturally.

It's not a case of a lack of humanity, it's just how we are. Should Bangladesh tour Pakistan? Yes if the board and players feel it's safe. A counter-logic would be are the lives of Australian cricketers more valuable than Bangladesh cricketers yet Australia has'tt toured in two decades. Yet you people are hell-bent over hosting us and not Aus in Pakistan.

 

[Professor]

For the millionth time I am sick of hearing this logic.

There is a term called "high-profile". The bigger fish attracts more interests. Srilankan Cricket Team was a "high profile" team. And while the value of each life is the same to themselves and their own families, we have much greater connection to the national team and thus we don't want them to take risk naturally.

It's not a case of a lack of humanity, it's just how we are. Should Bangladesh tour Pakistan? Yes if the board and players feel it's safe. A counter-logic would be are the lives of Australian cricketers more valuable than Bangladesh cricketers yet Australia has'tt toured in two decades. Yet you people are hell-bent over hosting us and not Aus in Pakistan.

I don’t get this logic, do you think an attack on the women’s team wouldnt have made the news? If the women’s team was attacked then that would have been the end of international cricket in Pakistan forever imo and would have made global news. If anything the women team would be more likely to be attacked because they probably had less security but an attack would have made the same amount of impact.

 

[NoBallZombie]

I don’t get this logic, do you think an attack on the women’s team wouldnt have made the news? If the women’s team was attacked then that would have been the end of international cricket in Pakistan forever imo and would have made global news. If anything the women team would be more likely to be attacked because they probably had less security but an attack would have made the same amount of impact.

Exactly this!

I am not sure why men are "high profile" targets and women arent? Also if any sportsperson (not only a cricketer) were hurt in the last decade due to security situations, Srilanka would not have toured either. ANY sport person is a "high profile" target, infact ANY foreigner getting attacked in Pakistan is going to send tremors in the international community. Plus I dont think anyone harbors any ill will against the Bangladeshi brothers (at least I have not heard anyone mention anything negative about Bangladesh in Pakistan) certainly not to the extent of what I hear Bengladeshi politicians talking about. There is clearly more danger to a Pakistani team to visit Bangladesh then vice versa because of all the Anti-pakistan sentiment. So other posters who think BCCI does not have any influence on this matter, I would like to say one thing "an enemy of an enemy is considered a friend" and judging by how BCCI officials have clearly stated in the past, they would go to all extents to isolate Pakistan.

 

[ZaudStorm]

Plus I dont think anyone harbors any ill will against the Bangladeshi brothers (at least I have not heard anyone mention anything negative about Bangladesh in Pakistan) certainly not to the extent of what I hear Bengladeshi politicians talking about. There is clearly more danger to a Pakistani team to visit Bangladesh then vice versa because of all the Anti-pakistan sentiment.

The first statement is hard to believe since I've experienced first hand racism from Pakistanis, also open up Saj's tweet on BCB touring Pakistan and see the replies. One would clearly see how strong the racism is. And as for Pakistan visiting Bangladesh, if there's any anti-Pakistan sentiment then it's either from a bitter experience or from one of Hasina's brainwashed kids who believes in her blindly. We'd welcome the Pakistani team with open arms if they came. I harbor no ill feelings towards my friendly Pakistani mates but my bitter experiences have definitely changed things.

 

[moghul]

In an related news, Dhaka has the worst crime rate among South Asian cities and Islamabad, closely followed by Lahore are the best.

Most of the cricket centers in South Africa and Port of Spain in WI are among the cities with worst crime rate in the world but regularly host international cricket matches..

 

[Mainul]

Its not about BD.

Its about,

How pakistani posters think,

1. That if SL tour, BD has no reason to refuse.

2. That since bcb is a smaller board, pcb can arm twist them and treat them with less respect.

3. That BCB takes dictation from bcci.

That's the point here.
BCB is an independant board who takes decision taking account of merits and demerits like cricket boards of SENA countries and India.

 

[minamino]

In an related news, Dhaka has the worst crime rate among South Asian cities and Islamabad, closely followed by Lahore are the best.

Most of the cricket centers in South Africa and Port of Spain in WI are among the cities with worst crime rate in the world but regularly host international cricket matches..

Crime rate is different from terrorism though.

 

[NoBallZombie]

The first statement is hard to believe since I've experienced first hand racism from Pakistanis, also open up Saj's tweet on BCB touring Pakistan and see the replies. One would clearly see how strong the racism is. And as for Pakistan visiting Bangladesh, if there's any anti-Pakistan sentiment then it's either from a bitter experience or from one of Hasina's brainwashed kids who believes in her blindly. We'd welcome the Pakistani team with open arms if they came. I harbor no ill feelings towards my friendly Pakistani mates but my bitter experiences have definitely changed things.

As a Pakistani, I can say confidently that there are no ill feelings here. Of course there are some idiots everywhere but the general public does not share their sentiments.

 

[Danyaalr01]

3 major South African cities are in top 10 for worst crime rate. Dhaka is pretty bad too.

 

[ZaudStorm]

As a Pakistani, I can say confidently that there are no ill feelings here. Of course there are some idiots everywhere but the general public does not share their sentiments.

Same applies here. Hope it's all true and the bad seeds are only a minority.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They don't have any reason to refuse. Nobody does. ICC has declared Pakistan safe for cricket, all data shows Pakistan is MUCH safer now than it was in 2009. When somebody refuses it is based off a false perception, not because there is actually a security threat.

It's just rich coming from a board which is based in a country which itself isn't even close to being a utopia, who just recently sent their women's team and under 16 teams.

If ICC will force all teams to tour pakistan, then thats ok. Doesnot look like ICC cannor will do it.

Womens and u16 teams are not a big target. I hope you get what i mean.

 

[cricketjoshila]

All I hear is excuses coming out of BCB side, and all I hear from you is your hate for Pakistan and not missing out an opportunity to ridicule anything Pakistan. I have seen this hate for a while, but then that's ok, keep it coming.

As for Pakistan not being safe, here is a link on the safest and most dangerous cities of the world:
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/region_rankings.jsp?title=2019-mid&region=142

It was discussed in other thread as well.

Basically a city like Islamabad is safer than cities like:
Ahmedabad
Mumbai
Surat
Hyderabad
Pune
Chandigarh
Chennai
Bangalore
Kolkata


Imagine # of games that takes place in those cities. I don't see any Pakistani on this forum yapping about how unsafe it is to hold games there. Now don't come up and tell me that oh your link sucks or it is not an accredited organization to do such a survey, etc.

Tell that to the countries which refuse to tour pakistan. They obviously dont give much credence to some random serbian website.

Teams after teams have refused to tour pakistan, Bcb is doing what Aus NZ Eng SA and other teams did. Why single them out?

 

[Shafi]

PCB and its begging attitude really makes me angry. We have British accent professional person like Wasim Khan as MD but still desperate to play with India and Bangladesh.
Why beg other boards if they don't want to play? Have some self pride and try to live with dignity. Pakistan cricket is no like Taiwan or Nigeria.

 

[ZaudStorm]

We have British accent professional person like Wasim Khan as MD but still desperate to play with India and Bangladesh.

This line right here explains the problem of you guys. Y'all think you're superior to the rest of the subcontinent by emulating white peeps, which is nothing but sheer delusion and makes the rest of us laugh.

 

[Shafi]

This line right here explains the problem of you guys. Y'all think you're superior to the rest of the subcontinent by emulating white peeps, which is nothing but sheer delusion and makes the rest of us laugh.

I am not saying we are superiors. I am criticizing PCB for their begging attitude and try to force others to play with us. PCB should follow the example of S Africa. They were isolated from cricket for a long time but didn't beg to anyone. Later they became strong team and others were touring them. PCB is loosing money playing on UAE so they should wait for the situation to improve.

Under Hasina regime BCB will always find excuse not to play with us. And I am not emulating white people but praise their pride not to act like beggars from the street. Wasim Khan even though lived their but didn't learn anything about dignity and self respect.

Also will you people like if Nepal cricket team find same excuse not to travel BD? BD is far superior than Nepal in cricket in every aspect. But if BCB head acts like beggar even you people will be annoyed.

 

[Abdullah719]

PCB and its begging attitude really makes me angry. We have British accent professional person like Wasim Khan as MD but still desperate to play with India and Bangladesh.
Why beg other boards if they don't want to play? Have some self pride and try to live with dignity. Pakistan cricket is no like Taiwan or Nigeria.

The series is part of the FTP. What do you propose PCB should do?

 

[Shafi]

The series is part of the FTP. What do you propose PCB should do?

PCB should wait for BCB's decision rather than begging.

 

[Abdullah719]

PCB should wait for BCB's decision rather than begging.

Who is begging? The daily statements about this are coming from BCB, not PCB.

 

[ahmedzee]

Tell that to the countries which refuse to tour pakistan. They obviously dont give much credence to some random serbian website.

Teams after teams have refused to tour pakistan, Bcb is doing what Aus NZ Eng SA and other teams did. Why single them out?

I literally predicted that from you. We can give NY times or Time magazine sources and it would be trashed as well.

Reality is, whether you like it or hate it (it is definitely hate it), that Pakistan is safe for any sporting events. It is one of the safest places to host cricket in Asia right now. Tourist can come, watch the game and have a warm welcome from locals.

 

[Abid Z]

Some real dross posted on this thread. Obviously any sane cricket board would love to see security arrangements in practice before committing to a tour. Let’s get the Sri Lanka tour underway before jumping to conclusions and believing in conspiracy theories.

Obviously the one advantage that hosting in Pakistan has Is that tours can be organised at relatively short notice. I realise the window for psl is fast approaching but late January is still a possibility.

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan and Bangladesh might feature in a day-night Test during the latter’s tour to the neighbouring nation in January next year for the two-match series of the ICC World Test Championship.

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) CEO Wasim Khan said that they had sent a proposed itinerary of the series to its Bangladesh counterpart (BCB), suggesting that one of the two Tests be played as a day-night affair in Karachi.

The BCB officials, on their part, have said that they will be able to give confirmation for the tour in a week’s time after seeking clearance from their government.

PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani has made it clear that Pakistan doesn’t want to play its home series at any neutral venues in future.

“If any team has any objection to playing in Pakistan they have to give us a valid reason for this. We now intend to play all our home series in Pakistan,” Mani had said.

Wasim Khan said that the PCB is confident Bangladesh will send its team for the two Tests and three T20 Internationals.

“We have also invited South Africa, Afghanistan and Ireland to tour Pakistan and we might host one of them sometime after the PSL in March,” he said.

Pakistan has never hosted a day-night Test match as no five-day game was held in the country since the last 10 years after terrorists attacked the Sri Lankan team in Lahore in March 2009, leaving six Pakistani policemen and one civilian driver dead.

Pakistan is hosting its first Test in a decade from Wednesday in Rawalpindi against Sri Lanka.

Wasim said day-night Tests were a practical step towards reviving the longer format of the game and Pakistan would also now like to play at least one Test of a series with the pink ball at home.

Wasim also made it clear that the disbanded Cricket Committee would be appointed afresh with an independent Chairman by January.

Former Pakistan captain Wasim Akram, who was a member of the defunct cricket committee which recommended the sacking of Mickey Arthur and his team of coaches after the World Cup, is said to be a strong candidate to be appointed as head of the new panel.

“The PCB Chairman and CEO will sit down soon with Wasim and discuss the situation with him. They will also take his feedback on which other former players should be inducted on the cricket committee," a reliable source in the PCB said.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...c-world-test-championship/article30275044.ece

 

[Shafi]

@Looks like our is in big mess and Wasim Khan is trying to fix his mistake by bring new people in the committee which is good but still surve no purpose if we have useless coaches.

 

[Abdullah719]

BCB: Cricketers will not be forced to go on Pakistan tour

Cricketers will not be forced to go to Pakistan if the Bangladesh national cricket team’s tour of the country slated for January-February next year gets the go ahead, Bangladesh Cricket Board President Nazmul Hasan has said.

The BCB is currently waiting for security clearance for the tour, where Bangladesh is scheduled to play three T20Is and two Tests against hosts Pakistan.

“We cannot force our players to go to Pakistan. If any player does not want to go, he will not go there. We will not pressurize anyone. The board will not pressurize any player to go to Pakistan. I do not think it is time to talk about the replacement team yet. It will depend on the situation,’’ BCB President Nazmul told the media at Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium Saturday.

“We have asked the government to let us know if we get the clearance to send the national team to Pakistan. Two of our teams visited Pakistan before: One was the women’s team and other was the boy’s team [Bangladesh U16]. We are yet to get the security clearance for the national team, but if you ask me about security, it should be the same whether it is the under-12 or the national team. We are assuming that we will get the security clearance, but we are yet to receive it. When we will receive it in our hand, we can inform about our decision,” the BCB chief added.

“After security clearance, it will be the up to the cricketers. We want to hear who wants to go or who does not. There are lots of matters, including the board. After getting the clearance, we will sit to discuss these things. We hope that we can make a final decision within the next four to five days,’’ Nazmul further said.

The Pakistan Cricket Board has invited the BCB for a day-night Test match in Karachi. As it stands, the BCB is considering a split series, with the T20I series in Pakistan and the Test series at a neutral venue.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/...ers-will-not-be-forced-to-go-on-pakistan-tour

 

[Lonewarrior]

BCB wont send the team. forget the tour. and safety isnt the issue here. and dont need to talk to BD posters in disrespectful way , so move on ....
invite some other teams ....

 

[aloo paratha]

If BCB are still reluctant, PCB should consider hosting the T20s in Pakistan in January then hosting the tests in May to give Bangladesh more time and assurance.

 

[emranabbas]

BCB just waiting on GOI as soon as it's all ok with GOI BCB will send it's team
Untill then just be patient.

 

[Bewal Express]

They aren't. BD is desperate to stay relevant with their new found friends and stick 2 fingers at the old rulers.

 

[KingT]

If BCB are still reluctant, PCB should consider hosting the T20s in Pakistan in January then hosting the tests in May to give Bangladesh more time and assurance.

It's not even about the security.
They're just following the orders of their masters.
Once their masters give them the go signal, they'll come to Pakistan

 

[Mesozoic]

BCB is ready to play a T20 series in Pakistan.

When will you guys realise that conspiracies are only good to diverge away from an undesired reality ?

 

[Slim]

If BCB thinks that their team has a higher profile than SRL then they are suffering from a high level of delusion.

However, theres no cure for delusion and if they dont want to visit then be it. Bangladesh will gain nothing out of this.

 

[KingT]

If BCB thinks that their team has a higher profile than SRL then they are suffering from a high level of delusion.

However, theres no cure for delusion and if they dont want to visit then be it. Bangladesh will gain nothing out of this.

Neither will we.
Bangladesh are minnows in test cricket. The big teams won't change their perception just because a minnow team visited us.

 

[Abdullah476]

Looking at the replies on Saj's latest tweet, it's obvious Pakistanis think that the BCB are nobodies.

With all with respect, I don't think they're entirely wrong

 

[Slim]

Neither will we.
Bangladesh are minnows in test cricket. The big teams won't change their perception just because a minnow team visited us.

Well, test was never in consideration in terms of competitiveness when it comes to Bangladesh. It was t20Is that i was looking forward to.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This line right here explains the problem of you guys. Y'all think you're superior to the rest of the subcontinent by emulating white peeps, which is nothing but sheer delusion and makes the rest of us laugh.

Before giving generic sweeping statements to incorrect facts atleast take the time to find out that Wasim Khan is British not Pakistani. He took a job with the PCB but that doesn't make him a "British accent professional", just British.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

PCB should wait for BCB's decision rather than begging.

When did PCB beg? They simply said its PCB's policy for Pakistan to play all their home matches at home. Since then BCB has been giving statements everyday.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If Bangladesh don't tour the games will end in forfeit and they will lose points. It's as simple as that. If they were a big board then maybe they could have pressurized the PCB to host in UAE but I don't see the PCB budging on this.

 

[Rana]

If Bangladesh don't tour the games will end in forfeit and they will lose points. It's as simple as that. If they were a big board then maybe they could have pressurized the PCB to host in UAE but I don't see the PCB budging on this.

But PCB should treat all boards the same way if they get their way with Bangladesh.

 

[Executioner]

If BCB thinks that their team has a higher profile than SRL then they are suffering from a high level of delusion.

However, theres no cure for delusion and if they dont want to visit then be it. Bangladesh will gain nothing out of this.

Woah where do you come up with the nonsense like this? Bangladesh team is sufficiently high profile team and comparable to SriLanka. I do agree Lanka's test team is much better than ours.

Anyways Indian, England, SA team were more high profile than Lanka team in 2009 no? Then why is it the case that the other teams weren't attacked but Lankan team was?

 

[cricketjoshila]

If Bangladesh don't tour the games will end in forfeit and they will lose points. It's as simple as that. If they were a big board then maybe they could have pressurized the PCB to host in UAE but I don't see the PCB budging on this.

Who told you this?

 

[Babbar]

Pakistanis treat teams with lower profile than itself with disdain but expect bigger boards to respect Pakistan. Hypocrisy!

Remember the golden rule!

 

[Executioner]

If Bangladesh is supposed to lose points if they don't tour Pakistan then shouldn't all other teams supposed to forfeit points as well? Or maybe you lads think Bangladesh lives don't matter and that we are low profile eh?

And in case you people have not forgotten, our team nearly got into a tough spot - The Christchurch terrorist attack.

The thing I hate about Pakistan Cricket Board and fans is this sense of entitlement when it comes to Bangladesh. If you are going to hate on Bangladesh cricket team for not touring, you should hate Australia 20 times more because Australia has toured before half the people on this forum has reached puberty.

 

[KingT]

Pakistanis treat teams with lower profile than itself with disdain but expect bigger boards to respect Pakistan. Hypocrisy!

Remember the golden rule!

Which board isn't a hypocrite?

 

[KingT]

If Bangladesh is supposed to lose points if they don't tour Pakistan then shouldn't all other teams supposed to forfeit points as well? Or maybe you lads think Bangladesh lives don't matter and that we are low profile eh?

And in case you people have not forgotten, our team nearly got into a tough spot - The Christchurch terrorist attack.

The thing I hate about Pakistan Cricket Board and fans is this sense of entitlement when it comes to Bangladesh. If you are going to hate on Bangladesh cricket team for not touring, you should hate Australia 20 times more because Australia has toured before half the people on this forum has reached puberty.

The fact of the matter is that you sent your women's team and u16 lads to Pakistan but are unwilling to send your men's team to Pakistan for more than 10 days.

Do the lives of the u16 and the women matter LESS than your men's??
You should be questioning yourself not us

 

[KingT]

If Bangladesh is supposed to lose points if they don't tour Pakistan then shouldn't all other teams supposed to forfeit points as well? Or maybe you lads think Bangladesh lives don't matter and that we are low profile eh?

And in case you people have not forgotten, our team nearly got into a tough spot - The Christchurch terrorist attack.

The thing I hate about Pakistan Cricket Board and fans is this sense of entitlement when it comes to Bangladesh. If you are going to hate on Bangladesh cricket team for not touring, you should hate Australia 20 times more because Australia has toured before half the people on this forum has reached puberty.

Let me just add that the reason you'll not be given an opportunity to tour the UAE is because you are a similar levelled team to Sri Lanka. So you going or not going to Pakistan isn't going to matter a whole lot to us. If you go then fine, if you don't then meh no one really cares. You aren't going to be the ones who persuade the big guns.

Whereas, we have to treat the big guns with respect. We can't just forfeit tours against them because they won't tour us in the future. As I've mentioned earlier, we don't care if Bangladesh doesn't tour us as you're not going to help us anymore than Sri Lanka. So we can act more strict against you. PCB doesn't see you as a threat. It is all about power you just have to deal with it.

 

[Professor]

If Bangladesh is supposed to lose points if they don't tour Pakistan then shouldn't all other teams supposed to forfeit points as well? Or maybe you lads think Bangladesh lives don't matter and that we are low profile eh?

And in case you people have not forgotten, our team nearly got into a tough spot - The Christchurch terrorist attack.

The thing I hate about Pakistan Cricket Board and fans is this sense of entitlement when it comes to Bangladesh. If you are going to hate on Bangladesh cricket team for not touring, you should hate Australia 20 times more because Australia has toured before half the people on this forum has reached puberty.

TBH I understand what you mean, some fans on this thread are being way harsh on BD. Bangladesh has as much right to refuse to tour as any other team. But its only some fans who act that way and we have fans like that on both side.

Anyways I hope BD does get security clearance and we can see a test series soon. I would think since the Women's tour and the U-16 tour went well, the chances are that the Men's team would tour as well. But yeah I get your point we shouldn't treat Bangladesh any different than Australia or England.

 

[MenInG]

If Bangladesh is supposed to lose points if they don't tour Pakistan then shouldn't all other teams supposed to forfeit points as well? Or maybe you lads think Bangladesh lives don't matter and that we are low profile eh?

And in case you people have not forgotten, our team nearly got into a tough spot - The Christchurch terrorist attack.

The thing I hate about Pakistan Cricket Board and fans is this sense of entitlement when it comes to Bangladesh. If you are going to hate on Bangladesh cricket team for not touring, you should hate Australia 20 times more because Australia has toured before half the people on this forum has reached puberty.

Agree with you. ALL lives matter but I feel that being part of this region, Bangladesh should understand the risks involved - which in this case are pretty low as shown by the SL tour.

 

[GrandMaster]

Bangladesh should not tour Pakistan, not because of poor security but solely due to poor state of infrastructure and extremely poor planning and management from PCB.

PCB gets exactly the same amount of contribution as other test playing nation but don’t have a single stadium which is worth hosting international test matches?

 

[Slim]

Woah where do you come up with the nonsense like this? Bangladesh team is sufficiently high profile team and comparable to SriLanka. I do agree Lanka's test team is much better than ours.

Anyways Indian, England, SA team were more high profile than Lanka team in 2009 no? Then why is it the case that the other teams weren't attacked but Lankan team was?

How is Bangladesh comparable to SRL in any format for that matter? One team is a WC winner, T20I finalist, has a good test record and other has nothing to show for, what are you on about?

2009 was a decade ago, move on, mate.

 

[Slim]

If Bangladesh is supposed to lose points if they don't tour Pakistan then shouldn't all other teams supposed to forfeit points as well? Or maybe you lads think Bangladesh lives don't matter and that we are low profile eh?

And in case you people have not forgotten, our team nearly got into a tough spot - The Christchurch terrorist attack.

The thing I hate about Pakistan Cricket Board and fans is this sense of entitlement when it comes to Bangladesh. If you are going to hate on Bangladesh cricket team for not touring, you should hate Australia 20 times more because Australia has toured before half the people on this forum has reached puberty.

The fact that Sri Lanka which is a non-minnow has sent its team, the fact that your own board has sent its Women and U16 team should make you question your own comments.

Its clear as daylight that Bangla Cricket is doing this whole drama out of spite, always in India's shadow.

 

[Mesozoic]

How is Bangladesh comparable to SRL in any format for that matter? One team is a WC winner, T20I finalist, has a good test record and other has nothing to show for, what are you on about?

2009 was a decade ago, move on, mate.

What a silly logic !

West Indies are two time world cup winners but lost to Bangladesh home and away and also in the world cup. What does past achievements have to do with current form?
Sri Lanka is pretty much on par with Bangladesh at the moment. Better in Tests, and inferior in white ball cricket.

 

[Executioner]

The fact of the matter is that you sent your women's team and u16 lads to Pakistan but are unwilling to send your men's team to Pakistan for more than 10 days.

Do the lives of the u16 and the women matter LESS than your men's??
You should be questioning yourself not us

BCB is waiting for security clearance from Bangladesh Government before sending the national team. BCB has to follow its protocol.

 

[Executioner]

Let me just add that the reason you'll not be given an opportunity to tour the UAE is because you are a similar levelled team to Sri Lanka. So you going or not going to Pakistan isn't going to matter a whole lot to us. If you go then fine, if you don't then meh no one really cares. You aren't going to be the ones who persuade the big guns.

Whereas, we have to treat the big guns with respect. We can't just forfeit tours against them because they won't tour us in the future. As I've mentioned earlier, we don't care if Bangladesh doesn't tour us as you're not going to help us anymore than Sri Lanka. So we can act more strict against you. PCB doesn't see you as a threat. It is all about power you just have to deal with it.

I agree with what you said. This of course doesn't give Pakistan any bargaining rights. PCB cannot force Bangladesh to forfeit points for not touring while at the same time let Australia England India go to the UAE.

I would like us to tour Pakistan, but not because we are seen as a guinea pig.

 

[Executioner]

Agree with you. ALL lives matter but I feel that being part of this region, Bangladesh should understand the risks involved - which in this case are pretty low as shown by the SL tour.

That is upto our security team and government to decide. I am sure the players and board members are fine with it.

How is Bangladesh comparable to SRL in any format for that matter? One team is a WC winner, T20I finalist, has a good test record and other has nothing to show for, what are you on about?

2009 was a decade ago, move on, mate.

2 times WC winner West Indies struggled against us, lost to us by 7 wickets and 7 overs remaining in a match where chased down 330. Is everything about history?

 

[Executioner]

The fact that Sri Lanka which is a non-minnow has sent its team, the fact that your own board has sent its Women and U16 team should make you question your own comments.

Its clear as daylight that Bangla Cricket is doing this whole drama out of spite, always in India's shadow.

BCB is financially well off and doesn't need to listen to everything BCCI says. BCCI could have easily forced BD to not send players to PSL and not let Pakistan players in BPL. They would also have complained already by now given that both teams are on talks

 

[ZaudStorm]

The fact that Sri Lanka which is a non-minnow has sent its team, the fact that your own board has sent its Women and U16 team should make you question your own comments.

Its clear as daylight that Bangla Cricket is doing this whole drama out of spite, always in India's shadow.

This attitude is the reason Bangladeshis dislike your lot, and wants the team not to tour Pakistan. Grow up and understand that every board follows a strict protocol. BCB will send the team as soon as everything is green lit. This obsession with India is getting seriously unhealthy now for you guys.

 

[saeed5646]

BCB is financially well off and doesn't need to listen to everything BCCI says. BCCI could have easily forced BD to not send players to PSL and not let Pakistan players in BPL. They would also have complained already by now given that both teams are on talks

Lol wake up Pakistani players are not dependent on bpl .There are dozen of league now adays

 

[Harpoon]

BCB has sent women team and U16 teams already and we should be thankful for their support and help!!
I also see no reason why BCB wouldn't send the men's team. Unless haseena herself stops it.
Let's get ready to welcome Bangladesh team just like we welcomed the sri Lankan team. With love and open arms.

 

[ahsan17]

IMO we need to stop being condescending towards BD team and their supporters. I do have a few problems with BCB though. My main gripe with BCB was when they promised a tour to Pakistan in exchange for a vote and then didn't deliver on that promise. That is not BD team problem and nor their supporters' problem. BCB paid PCB and that is behind us now. Pakistan was also not safe at the time, compared to 2019. I also genuinely think BCCI has strong influence over BCB.

I also don't see any logical reason for BD to refuse the tour. Pakistan is now actually safer than when teams used to regularly tour Pakistan. If BD refuses tour, it will likely be either for political reasons or due to BCCI influence over BCB.

 

[GrandMaster]

IMO we need to stop being condescending towards BD team and their supporters. I do have a few problems with BCB though. My main gripe with BCB was when they promised a tour to Pakistan in exchange for a vote and then didn't deliver on that promise. That is not BD team problem and nor their supporters' problem. BCB paid PCB and that is behind us now. Pakistan was also not safe at the time, compared to 2019. I also genuinely think BCCI has strong influence over BCB.

I also don't see any logical reason for BD to refuse the tour. Pakistan is now actually safer than when teams used to regularly tour Pakistan. If BD refuses tour, it will likely be either for political reasons or due to BCCI influence over BCB.

Stop being so obsessed with BCCI. FYI - BCCI has strong influence on SLC rather than BCB.

 

[BDfanforever]

How is Bangladesh comparable to SRL in any format for that matter? One team is a WC winner, T20I finalist, has a good test record and other has nothing to show for, what are you on about?

2009 was a decade ago, move on, mate.

BD is is not comparable to SRL by it's cricketing ability or history. However, BCB is 5x richer than SRL board and is top 5 richest board. They won't simply tour because PCB wants to be a bully.

The onus was on PCB to convince BCB and other boards to tour them.

Has PCB worked towards strengthening the relationship with BCB? No.
Has PCB ever invited BCB to UAE? No.

I am not saying BCB is not guilty in this matter, but I do not believe PCB has done enough to convince BCB to tour them yet.

 

[daytrader]

This attitude is the reason Bangladeshis dislike your lot, and wants the team not to tour Pakistan. Grow up and understand that every board follows a strict protocol. BCB will send the team as soon as everything is green lit. This obsession with India is getting seriously unhealthy now for you guys.

OK so if attitude and dislike are the reasons, then say that and accept whatever the outcome. Don't behind the excuse that it's not safe

 

[King_Kohli]

BD is is not comparable to SRL by it's cricketing ability or history. However, BCB is 5x richer than SRL board and is top 5 richest board. They won't simply tour because PCB wants to be a bully.

The onus was on PCB to convince BCB and other boards to tour them.

Has PCB worked towards strengthening the relationship with BCB? No.
Has PCB ever invited BCB to UAE? No.

I am not saying BCB is not guilty in this matter, but I do not believe PCB has done enough to convince BCB to tour them yet.

wow
I am curious to know how they achieved this position

 

[emranabbas]

OK so if attitude and dislike are the reasons, then say that and accept whatever the outcome. Don't behind the excuse that it's not safe

BCB stance is going to be same as BCCI
BCCI are probably bullying BCB by saying if you tour Pakistan we won't play with you.

There is no win situation for BCB

Same situation for Afghanis if they play in Pakistan they will lose facilities in India.

BCCI has both boards on a lock down

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Hopefully we will secure a roster of SA and England very soon. We don't need minnows like BD to play politics with cricket just for a tour.

 

[Abdullah719]

Wasim Khan at a presser today:

We are in correspondence with Bangladesh. They are happy to play T20Is in Pakistan but are reluctant to play 2 Tests in Pakistan. I've written to BCB and I've been very strong in my response and asked them for the reason why. ICC have signed off on our security plans. SL will complete 2 Test matches safely here, all security provisions are in place. We have asked BCB why they don't want to come. It's not finished, doesn't mean they won't come. They are talking about playing T20Is but for us, playing Test cricket in another country isn't an option now.

 

[hur rizvi]

No point in playing T20s if they don’t visit Pakistan

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aamir Sohail "Bangladesh should come to Pakistan & I would remind them of what we did for them to help them attain international & Test status. Pakistan really helped in Bangladesh’s journey towards international cricket and they should not forget it" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1209406755295432705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MenInG]

Despite the tough stance adopted by the PCB on Bangladesh’s unwillingness to play Test cricket in Pakistan, the BCB has reiterated that as things stood, it could only give the go-ahead to a T20I series in the country. In what could be seen as a slight softening of position on the Tests, though, chief executive Nizamuddin Chowdhury said that Bangladesh would decide on the longer series after the T20I tour.

Speaking to a few reporters in Dhaka on Tuesday, Chowdhury said that while the BCB understood the sentiments of the PCB, it needed to take into account the views of the Bangladeshi players and the team management.

“Pakistan will definitely try for the full return of international cricket to their country. We have to take into account the views of our players and members of our team management, who are foreigners,” Chowdhury said. “The match environment is also important to us. Relevant stakeholders’ view is also important, regarding a longer tour to Pakistan.

“Our primary proposal is to play three T20Is in a shorter period so that players and team management can do a proper assessment of the situation there.”

That is not too different from what Sri Lanka did recently. The original schedule was for two Tests in Pakistan in October, but with major Sri Lankan players reluctant to make the trip, only limited-overs internationals were played, and once that tour was conducted without incident, Sri Lanka agreed to tour in December for a two-Test series with their first-choice players.

http://sportsalert.org/2019/12/24/t...er-that-bcb-chief-executive-on-pakistan-tour/

 

[Amjid Javed]

So bangladeshs womens and junior teams have toured, but senior team need goverment clearance?

laughable! Ireland or Afghanistan should replace them in test championship.

 

[ZamanFan]

Rofl what a loser country Bangladesh is.

Still Bcb dumb chief is ranting. When the ploy of treat us the 9th ranked team as top 5 ranked nation failed , now it wants Pakistan to treat them like 6th ranked friend Sri Lanka whose board chief who stood with Pcb even when its players refused. Did not give any ambiguous statements ans fulfilled what he committedunlike Bangladesh that has been a beneficiary of Pakistan isolation and backsyabbed Pakistan before also not realizing how Pakistan supported this ungrateful nation when no one wanted to tour them even Indian cricketers. Pakistani stars like Imran Khan and Wasim, Waqar went their and took part in their domestic leaguez.

PCB should ask Zimbabwe or Ireland for a tour comprising 3 T20s. This is the actual value of their cricket team that has lost their only star Shakib. There will be deserted stands in T20s. There is no confirmation Bangladesh will return to tour after playing t20s they can make another excuse later on. This is the kind of history we have with them unlike Sri lanka. Have never seen Sl board chief giving statements to cricbuzz like indian anti pak media outlets regarding Pakistan tour. Pakistan board should ahow Bangladesh they are not even friend like Sri Lanka to us.

Invite Ireland or other associate country like Nepal for T20 and tell bcb to either play test or take the dispute to icc as wtc is their tournament.

 

[aloo paratha]

T20s in January and tests in April/May is what's probably gonna happen. Not really a problem as Pakistanis are banned from IPL and no Bangladesh player is good enough for IPL.