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Simple question - Now then the dust is settling over the the joke that we called no confidence motion, I have a simple question; Will the disgruntled PTI MNAs that were paraded on national television as bakras during eid time will they resign now?

Will these members who hate Imran Khan so much leave his party ticket and then win from their constituency again?

There have been many videos where they claimed that they would resign after NCM is done as their vote has "worth". The irony is the entire nation not only knows the "worth" of their but also of their character.

Follow up question to the above - If for any reason they don't want to resign because they know no way they are going to win again from another party ticket. Then can PTI de-seat them given their allegiance has been shifted and frankly well documented now.
 
Simple question - Now then the dust is settling over the the joke that we called no confidence motion, I have a simple question; Will the disgruntled PTI MNAs that were paraded on national television as bakras during eid time will they resign now?

Will these members who hate Imran Khan so much leave his party ticket and then win from their constituency again?

There have been many videos where they claimed that they would resign after NCM is done as their vote has "worth". The irony is the entire nation not only knows the "worth" of their but also of their character.

Follow up question to the above - If for any reason they don't want to resign because they know no way they are going to win again from another party ticket. Then can PTI de-seat them given their allegiance has been shifted and frankly well documented now.

Simple Answer = No!

Why would someone with no backbone resign now and face the wrath of their voters for their shameless acts?
 
Fawad Chaudhry has said in a latest press conference that if the ruling party does not withdraw Shahbaz Sharifs name from the PM nomination then pti will resign from the national assembly.
 
Simple Answer = No!

Why would someone with no backbone resign now and face the wrath of their voters for their shameless acts?

Whilst I agree with you its unfortunate that we live in current world where these shameless people can continue to hold PTI ticket and seat in NA but they cannot stand behind their leader.

No suo moto from SC / no ECP / no any other judiciary. No one will step in this matter but they all go active on Sunday or Saturday late night if IK's anticipated removal is taking longer than anticipated.

Shame all over.
 
Fawad Chaudhry has said in a latest press conference that if the ruling party does not withdraw Shahbaz Sharifs name from the PM nomination then pti will resign from the national assembly.

Resignations would be mistake if ECP would not trigger general elections. Given how ECP came out of their way to say they need 7 months of prep before elections shows where they stand. So if general elections cannot be triggered then certainly resignations would be a mistake.
 
PTI NA members to resign tomorrow. This will be a horrible move if the ECP holds bi-elections instead of general elections.
 
Do we know the names of these disgruntled MNAs, and also what happened to the Article 65A (hope I am getting the number right) where if you vote against your own party and then you are disqualified?
 
Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan approached the Supreme Court on Thursday seeking a lifetime ban from contesting elections for defecting lawmakers.

The petition, a copy of which is available with Dawn.com, named the Election Commission of Pakistan, speaker of the National Assembly, Federation of Pakistan through the secretary cabinet division, and secretary of the ministry of law and justice as respondents.

It was submitted in the apex court by PTI lawyer Babar Awan earlier today, and has requested the formation of a full court comprising all judges of the Supreme Court to "hear and decide this intricate question of interpretation of Article 63-A of the Constitution".

In his petition, the former prime minister argued that defection, also commonly called floor crossing, was against Article 63-A of the Constitution which states that a parliamentarian can be disqualified on grounds of defection if he "votes or abstains from voting in the House contrary to any direction issued by the parliamentary party to which he belongs, in relation to election of the prime minister or chief minister; or a vote of confidence or a vote of no-confidence; or a money bill or a Constitution (amendment) bill".


"All members of the National or Provincial Assembly at the very first session of the house, take an oath, as stated in the third schedule of the Constitution," he pointed out. "The oath of members clearly states that they will abide by the Constitution, thus while deviating from the party policy, a member in reality is defecting from the Constitution and is violating his oath to office."

The petition maintained that a National or Provincial Assembly seat in a parliamentary democracy was synonymous to trust place in a member by the political party that brought him/her to the house.

"In circumstances where a bar has been imposed, for instance in matter of vote or no confidence against the Prime Minister or the Chief Minister, it can be said that any act of defection or floor crossing would amount to breach of trust imposed upon the member by the political party and in that case a defecting member cannot at all claim himself to be Sadiq or Amin as stated in Article 63(1)(d) of the Constitution," the petition said.

Floor crossing, Khan explained, also carries along with itself moral implication and therefore erodes the trust the nation has put into the legislative organ of the state and its members.

He added that it further usurps the mandate of the people, exposes the system to uncountable humiliation before the international community and sabotages national security enabling foreign enemies to use parliamentarians as a "tool to dislodge a democratically elected government".

Consequently, the PTI chairman contended that a defector parliamentarian cannot "claim a vested right to have his vote counted and given equal weightage" and demanded that such tainted votes should be excluded from the vote count.

He called on the apex court to ensure that a lawmaker was first required to resign from his existing seat in the assembly instead of committing defection as provided in Article 63-A of the Constitution.

The petition asserts that the "true spirit of the Constitution inserting anti-defection provision" was to treat the vote of defecting members as a 'challenged or disputed vote' "liable to be excluded from final counts till the determination of the issue of defection of the voting member in the manner provided in Article 63-A of the Constitution".

It further stated that the court had observed in many cases that defection or floor crossing was nothing short of cancer and destroyed the spirit of democratic governance, and prayed the court to declare that "any sort of defection would amount to imposing a lifetime ban on contesting elections"

Dissident MNAs
The petition also mentioned the "recent floor crossing and defection of PTI MNAs during the process of no confidence move against the former prime minister".

"Some of the defecting members have publicly admitted to defection in their interviews to the media in a daring manner feeling pride in their act and further committed to stay engaged in this immoral trade while gaining colossal amounts in cash and kind without any possibility of loss of membership of Parliament for life," it said.

The petitioner added that videos shown by the media were neither denied nor were rebuttals issued by the members in question and it had badly damaged the faith of masses on the system.

Before the no-trust motion against Imran Khan was tabled, several PTI lawmakers, who had been 'in hiding' at the Sindh House in Islamabad, revealed themselves — proving true the opposition's claims of having "won over" members of the ruling coalition.

A number of TV channels that sent their teams into Sindh House to verify the claims were faced with nearly a dozen PTI members, who claimed that they had developed differences with the Imran Khan-led government and were going to vote in "accordance with their conscience".

Presidential reference on Article 63-A
Before its ouster, the Imran-led government had filed a presidential reference for the interpretation of Article 63-A, asking the top court about the "legal status of the vote of party members when they are clearly involved in horse-trading and change their loyalties in exchange for money".

The presidential reference was filed under Article 186 which is related to the advisory jurisdiction of the SC.

In the reference, President Dr Arif Alvi also asked the apex court whether a member who "engages in constitutionally prohibited and morally reprehensible act of defection" could claim the right to have his vote counted and given equal weightage or if there was a constitutional restriction to exclude such "tainted" votes.

He also asked the court to elaborate whether a parliamentarian, who had been declared to have committed defection, would be disqualified for life. It cautioned that unless horse-trading is eliminated, "a truly democratic polity shall forever remain an unfilled distant dream and ambition".

"Owing to the weak interpretation of Article 63-A entailing no prolonged disqualification, such members first enrich themselves and then come back to remain available to the highest bidder in the next round perpetuating this cancer."

DAWN
 
I think anyone who defects from a party that were initially voted in for, must be automatically be required to fight for their seat.

If their principles are so strong, then they need to fight for them.
 
Playing devils advocate- dont send any notification to these traitors because the damage is done- they have been promised tickets by the PPP and the Nooras but they have already given tickets given to previous candidates. Kill 2 birds with one stone. They will get hammered and IK wins the seat
 
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