Will there be condemnation of Theresa May for joining forces with terrorist sympathisers?

[Markhor]

As the dust settles on a dramatic election result - its time to look to the future and it appears the Conservatives being short of a majority will be propped up by the Democratic Unionist Party of Northern Ireland.

Now let's give folks a bit of background on the DUP. They were founded by Ian Paisley who TWICE rejected a peace deal to end the bloodshed in Northern Ireland in 1973 (Sunningdale) and 1998 (Belfast). Ian Paisley was the man who shouted "NEVER NEVER NEVER" to any deals with the nationalists. He only saw sense very late on in life in 2007 for the sake of his ego, and after the deaths of thousands of people that he could've avoided.

The DUP itself has strong historical links with Loyalist paramilitaries, namely the UVF, UDA and Ulster Resistance, the latter founded by people who ended up becoming prominent DUP politicians. The party’s former leader Peter Robinson, for example, was an active member of the terror group. Ulster Resistance has urged its activists to support the DUP, a call the party has refused to dissociate themselves from.

Since the start of the year senior representatives of the DUP have met with known members of the UDA across the Six Counties. They have visited organisations and buildings under its influence, including its Belfast headquarters, have leased constituency offices from its affiliates and have jointly attended demonstrations with its leaders.

Only last week the UDA shot dead a man in County Down in front of his 3 year old son ! Yet Arlene Forster, the leader of the DUP, met with the UDA's chief 48 hours after !

Loyalist Communities Council, a front for the banned terrorists of the UDA, the UVF and the Red Hand Commando, publicly endorsed the DUP at this election !

Now my question is this. After the media badgered Jeremy Corbyn about his supposed sympathies with the IRA - do they have the integrity and intellectual honesty to similarly condemn Theresa May for hanging onto power with the support of these terrorist sympathisers in the DUP ?

 

[Robert]

It's a very good point. McGuinness renounced violence and voted for power sharing. The DUP voted against it.

 

[Markhor]

To give you some figures:

The UDA killed 260 people during the Troubles, 80% of whom civilians. The UVF and Red Hand Commando killed 485 people, 85% were civilians.

The DUP has condemned the activity of Loyalist paramilitaries, yet it has done nothing to get the UDA to disband.

The DUP is also a party that appointed a climate change denier in Sammy Wilson as environment minister, are homophobic and oppose abortion so a woman must proceed with a pregnancy EVEN in the case of rape or incest, or a fatal foetal disability. The only exception is if doctors consider a woman’s life to be in serious danger.

Having an unlawful termination carries the same legal weight as murder, meaning women in Northern Ireland can face life in prison if they go ahead with the procedure. These are the people who Theresa May is doing a deal with.

 

[Markhor]

Here's an analogy [MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION] might appreciate.

This is like doing a deal with the white version of JUI-F. Infact the DUP only recently were embroiled in an energy-related scandal !

 

[Adil_94]

nope because the loyalist violence was committed in support of the British establishment. So it will be brushed under the carpet.

 

[Nostalgic]

Here's an analogy [MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION] might appreciate.

This is like doing a deal with the white version of JUI-F. Infact the DUP only recently were embroiled in an energy-related scandal !

Except that JUI-F weasel their way into every government. I don't know if the DUP have ever been part of any government outside of NI before this.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

nope because the loyalist violence was committed in support of the British establishment. So it will be brushed under the carpet.

Exactly, the dog on the street knows the British Government assisted them in carrying out atrocities.

 

[Nostalgic]

One thing I was surprised to read was that the DUP don't want a hard border with Ireland. I would've thought, with their loyalist pedigree, they would be the first ones to call for it. But that's one demand of theirs that is at odds with their otherwise anti-EU policy.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

One thing I was surprised to read was that the DUP don't want a hard border with Ireland. I would've thought, with their loyalist pedigree, they would be the first ones to call for it. But that's one demand of theirs that is at odds with their otherwise anti-EU policy.

Because they rely hugely on Irish shoppers crossing the border for money. Not to mention a hard border would harm NI and its economy far more than it would ours.

 

[Nostalgic]

Because they rely hugely on Irish shoppers crossing the border for money. Not to mention a hard border would harm NI and its economy far more than it would ours.

I suppose not having the hard border also means they get to keep a bit of a lid on Republican sentiment in NI. No border means people on both sides are free to come and go as they please, perhaps even pretend it is the same country.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

I suppose not having the hard border also means they get to keep a bit of a lid on Republican sentiment in NI. No border means people on both sides are free to come and go as they please, perhaps even pretend it is the same country.

Lol trust me they don't and never will consider republican sentiments when making decisions (See Irish Language Act).

They realise a hard border would be catastrophic and the electorate would blame them for it, nothing else.

Besides, Unionist votes as a total of NI for the first time ever fell below 50% in this election, tick tock......

 

[Nostalgic]

Lol trust me they don't and never will consider republican sentiments when making decisions (See Irish Language Act).

They realise a hard border would be catastrophic and the electorate would blame them for it, nothing else.

Besides, Unionist votes as a total of NI for the first time ever fell below 50% in this election, tick tock......

No wonder Adams said they would get a referendum anyhow. That's smart. Play the long game, wait for the demographics to be in your favor.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

No wonder Adams said they would get a referendum anyhow. That's smart. Play the long game, wait for the demographics to be in your favor.

They already are. Census surveys indicate that Catholics will have a higher population than Protestants by 2021 I believe?? Gap has already narrowed significantly.

While this bodes very well for Nationalist parties (Catholics almost universally vote Nationalist, Protestant for Unionist) its n guarantee of any unification as Catholics tend to vote for the UK to remain. Until its economically viable and better for everyone to be in a UI, the vote will always fail IMO. However if Nationalist parties get into power as they should do in future, they may set the ball rolling.

Census data also shows that Catholics vastly outperform Protestants when it comes to education, with many more finding their way to third level and degrees than their protestant counterparts.

Of course its not as simple as a catholic vs protestant issue, but all the census data shows the trends heading only one direction. Throw in the historic assembly election in March (which doesn't use the awful FPTP system like Westminster does) where SF took only 1 seat less than the DUP and this is turning out to be a great year for SF in particular. Two elections in 3 months, both returning best ever results.

 

[Nostalgic]

They already are. Census surveys indicate that Catholics will have a higher population than Protestants by 2021 I believe?? Gap has already narrowed significantly.

While this bodes very well for Nationalist parties (Catholics almost universally vote Nationalist, Protestant for Unionist) its n guarantee of any unification as Catholics tend to vote for the UK to remain. Until its economically viable and better for everyone to be in a UI, the vote will always fail IMO. However if Nationalist parties get into power as they should do in future, they may set the ball rolling.

Census data also shows that Catholics vastly outperform Protestants when it comes to education, with many more finding their way to third level and degrees than their protestant counterparts.

Of course its not as simple as a catholic vs protestant issue, but all the census data shows the trends heading only one direction. Throw in the historic assembly election in March (which doesn't use the awful FPTP system like Westminster does) where SF took only 1 seat less than the DUP and this is turning out to be a great year for SF in particular. Two elections in 3 months, both returning best ever results.

Fascinating. What's the public sentiment in the Republic of Ireland towards unification?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Fascinating. What's the public sentiment in the Republic of Ireland towards unification?

Mixed. Lots want it naturally, lots don't due to the fear of a return to terrorism and the misguided belief it'd cost billions when in fact an all island economy would bring huge benefits. Most on both sides view the North as a complete basket case of sectarianism and hate, and want nothing to do with it.

Last thing Ireland would need in their view is to attract the negative headlines Belfast does year in year out.

 

[Nostalgic]

Mixed. Lots want it naturally, lots don't due to the fear of a return to terrorism and the misguided belief it'd cost billions when in fact an all island economy would bring huge benefits. Most on both sides view the North as a complete basket case of sectarianism and hate, and want nothing to do with it.

Last thing Ireland would need in their view is to attract the negative headlines Belfast does year in year out.

That's very pragmatic of the Irish public. I can't ever imagine a segment of our population not wanting a union with Kashmir over mere economic or security concerns.

 

[the Great Khan]

no they are good christian white unionist soldiers not terrorists. Only Muslims (or catholics) are terrorists.

 

[JaDed]

Did Britain sponsor it?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Did Britain sponsor it?

Essentially yes. Collusion between Government and Loyalist paramilitaries is widely accepted to have happened

 

[JaDed]

Essentially yes. Collusion between Government and Loyalist paramilitaries is widely accepted to have happened

Expected,there is always a different angle to British policies and past.

 

[KingKhanWC]

 

[Yossarian]

I suppose not having the hard border also means they get to keep a bit of a lid on Republican sentiment in NI. No border means people on both sides are free to come and go as they please, perhaps even pretend it is the same country.

Except that, due to the way trade tariffs work, if there is no hard border between the Republic (ie EU) and NI, then there has to be Customs and Immigration checks between NI and the rest of the UK.

Otherwise, for example, say the UK has lower tariffs with the USA or India or Australia than those countries have with the EU, then, in theory, goods from these countries could be shipped to NI (or other parts of the UK and then to NI) with the lower tariffs paid, transported to the Republic, and then shipped to the rest of the EU, thereby bypassing the EU's higher tariffs - in fact the Republic of Ireland/EU not getting any tariff income whatsoever.

Similar examples could be made for getting goods from the UK to the Republic/rest of the EU, and vice versa, thereby circumventing any trade tariffs after Brexit between the EU and the UK.

Similar also as regards immigration between the UK and the EU.

 

[s28]

There is a petition (300,000+ and counting) against Tory Coalition of Chaos with terrorist connected DUP

https://www.change.org/p/may-out-no-coalition-with-the-d-u-p

 

[Varun]

There is a petition (300,000+ and counting) against Tory Coalition of Chaos with terrorist connected DUP

https://www.change.org/p/may-out-no-coalition-with-the-d-u-p

Here we go again.

Have any of these petitions ever worked out for you?
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]

 

[Junaids]

Mixed. Lots want it naturally, lots don't due to the fear of a return to terrorism and the misguided belief it'd cost billions when in fact an all island economy would bring huge benefits. Most on both sides view the North as a complete basket case of sectarianism and hate, and want nothing to do with it.

Last thing Ireland would need in their view is to attract the negative headlines Belfast does year in year out.

Trust me, many of us from the UK feel nothing but shame and disgrace for the partition of Ireland.

We treated the Irish disgracefully for centuries - not that we in northern England were exactly spoiled - and our behaviour in the Irish War of Independence was just shameful.

I watched the Brendan O'Carroll episode of "Who Do You Think You Are?", which was about the murder of his grandfather by us in 1920, and I don't think I've ever felt so ashamed in my entire life.

 

[James]

This should definitely be condemned.

I have signed the above petition on the basis that we would be better off re-running the General Election in August, so either the Conservatives or Labour can forge a proper majority.

But it doesn't matter either way, because this arrangement will not last long.

The Scottish Conservatives and their brilliant spearhead Ruth Davidson are already rebelling against it - she would make a better PM than Theresa, frankly - and what's more, the Good Friday Agreement potentially illegitimises this new Coalition anyway.

 

[Slog]

Here we go again.

Have any of these petitions ever worked out for you?
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]

hahaha ofcourse they did. Dont you know Netanyahu's life was never the same and no Europenan country allows him in now? Same with Modi and all the others

There should be a petition to end all petitions

 

[GBK_Fan]

This should definitely be condemned.

I have signed the above petition on the basis that we would be better off re-running the General Election in August, so either the Conservatives or Labour can forge a proper majority.

But it doesn't matter either way, because this arrangement will not last long.

The Scottish Conservatives and their brilliant spearhead Ruth Davidson are already rebelling against it - she would make a better PM than Theresa, frankly - and what's more, the Good Friday Agreement potentially illegitimises this new Coalition anyway[\b].

Are you sure about that? I had a quick read through its summary and it does not stop the DUP from joining the coalition. It does seem to have conflicts with her proposed anti terror laws

 

[James]

Not sure either. Just heard some chatter & rumour.

 

[Markhor]

Are you sure about that? I had a quick read through its summary and it does not stop the DUP from joining the coalition. It does seem to have conflicts with her proposed anti terror laws

It has been British policy since 1991, and was affirmed in the 1998 Belfast Agreement, to be impartial in the dispute in Northern Ireland and to be mediators between Unionists and Nationalists. John Major when his government was on the ropes in the 1990s battling for a majority refused to countenance a deal with the DUP because of that reason.

The British Government's impartiality is severely compromised if its in hock to one party in that conflict, a party that STILL maintains links with Loyalist paramilitaries which makes May's attacks on Corbyn's past links to the IRA all the more hypocritical.

Sinn Fein already previously said the Westminster Government cannot act as an honest broker which jeopardises the negotiations to re-form the powersharing Executive.

 

[GBK_Fan]

I voted Tory this election in an overwhelmingly Labour constituency. I believe the Tories shot themselves in the foot with this election call and Theresa May was utterly disastrous during the campaign.
I don't agree with the DUP tie up. I don't believe the DUP should be anywhere near power with the warped medieval ideology. However I still don't believe that Corbyn is the right choice either. He had no policies for the industry and doesn't have the confidence of large corporations who are under increasing pressure post Brexit. His us vs them attitude and pursuit of populist policies will ruin the economy. If the elections do happen again I will vote Tory again.

 

[GBK_Fan]

It has been British policy since 1991, and was affirmed in the 1998 Belfast Agreement, to be impartial in the dispute in Northern Ireland and to be mediators between Unionists and Nationalists. John Major when his government was on the ropes in the 1990s battling for a majority refused to countenance a deal with the DUP because of that reason.

The British Government's impartiality is severely compromised if its in hock to one party in that conflict, a party that STILL maintains links with Loyalist paramilitaries which makes May's attacks on Corbyn's past links to the IRA all the more hypocritical.

Sinn Fein already previously said the Westminster Government cannot act as an honest broker which jeopardises the negotiations to re-form the powersharing Executive.

Agree. It's an abhorrent move, exposing the power hungry Tories. There is however nothing stopping them from doing it. I hope none of the crazy DUP policies on LGBT and abortion become mainstream

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Agree. It's an abhorrent move, exposing the power hungry Tories. There is however nothing stopping them from doing it. I hope none of the crazy DUP policies on LGBT and abortion become mainstream

I hope they do, and they already have. Mainland UK has been so ignorant of the NI situation and those in power over there its shocking. Time they saw the ugly truth.

 

[s28]

This should definitely be condemned.

I have signed the above petition on the basis that we would be better off re-running the General Election in August, so either the Conservatives or Labour can forge a proper majority.

But it doesn't matter either way, because this arrangement will not last long.

The Scottish Conservatives and their brilliant spearhead Ruth Davidson are already rebelling against it - she would make a better PM than Theresa, frankly - and what's more, the Good Friday Agreement potentially illegitimises this new Coalition anyway.

Having a Scottish PM for UK is doubtful now due to EVEL. People made same point when Owen Smith (Welsh) stood for Leader of Labour.

 

[Robert]

It has been British policy since 1991, and was affirmed in the 1998 Belfast Agreement, to be impartial in the dispute in Northern Ireland and to be mediators between Unionists and Nationalists.

Yet Gordon Brown was forced to rely on them to get his 42-day detention without trial bill through, after Labour MPs rebelled.

May has got to walk a narrow ledge here. There is no Tory-DUP Coalition, no DUP cabinet ministers, so you could argue that she is impartial. But SF will keep a watchful eye on developments.

 

[Yossarian]

Yet Gordon Brown was forced to rely on them to get his 42-day detention without trial bill through, after Labour MPs rebelled.

May has got to walk a narrow ledge here. There is no Tory-DUP Coalition, no DUP cabinet ministers, so you could argue that she is impartial. But SF will keep a watchful eye on developments.

Hoping a rival Party will vote in support of a particular Bill in Parliament, a Bill that the Party in question is itself in favour of, is vastly different to the Government and that Party having thrashed out an agreement that the Government then relies upon to stay in power and relies upon to pass it's legislation on an ongoing basis.

The two situations are in no way comparable.

 

[Robert]

Hoping a rival Party will vote in support of a particular Bill in Parliament, a Bill that the Party in question is itself in favour of, is vastly different to the Government and that Party having thrashed out an agreement that the Government then relies upon to stay in power and relies upon to pass it's legislation on an ongoing basis.

The two situations are in no way comparable.

Brown needed something from them and they gained something from him. It's just the same. Let's not kid ourselves that there is any moral high ground in politics when push comes to shove. Real life isn't The West Wing.

 

[Markhor]

hahaha ofcourse they did. Dont you know Netanyahu's life was never the same and no Europenan country allows him in now? Same with Modi and all the others

There should be a petition to end all petitions

Here we go again.

Have any of these petitions ever worked out for you?
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]

Seems the Trump state visit one worked.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-state-visit-to-britain-put-on-hold

Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming.

The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time.

The call was made in recent weeks, according to a Downing Street adviser who was in the room. The statement surprised May, according to those present. The conversation in part explains why there has been little public discussion about a visit.

 

[Slog]

Seems the Trump state visit one worked.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-state-visit-to-britain-put-on-hold

Ironically s28 never shared a trump one

 

[Markhor]

The deal STILL hasn't been finalised !

 

[Robert]

To be fair [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] the DUP disavowed the Proddy paramilitaries.

 

[Markhor]

Finally, the confidence and supply agreement between the Conservatives and the DUP has been signed.

Theresa May remains in power with the assistance of the Orange Order.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

People rightfully calling out the Tories for their "Magic Money Tree" put downs recently. It seems they've magically conjured up a billion pounds to stay in power. £100,000,000 per each DUP vote. If this doesn't enlighten you about Tory priorities then little else will.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

To be fair [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] the DUP disavowed the Proddy paramilitaries.

Where?

Foster refused to condemn her meeting a UDA commander three days after the UDA murdered a man in front of his 3 year old son. And I cannot recall any condemnation ever of UVF/UDA murders from my memory.

 

[James]

A 2-year deal with an optional 3-year extension.

Won't last the 2 years IMO.

 

[Robert]

Where?

Foster refused to condemn her meeting a UDA commander three days after the UDA murdered a man in front of his 3 year old son. And I cannot recall any condemnation ever of UVF/UDA murders from my memory.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...sement-from-paramilitary-groups-35794023.html

 

[Markhor]

The alliance is already on the ropes.

Sky: The DUP is planning to vote with Labour on NHS pay and tuition fees during debates this afternoon.

 

[Robert]

Finally, the confidence and supply agreement between the Conservatives and the DUP has been signed.

Theresa May remains in power with the assistance of the Orange Order.

My Grandad Robert was a Lodge master. I still have his sash.

 

[James]

The alliance is already on the ropes.

Sky: The DUP is planning to vote with Labour on NHS pay and tuition fees during debates this afternoon.

General Election 2018 is odds on.

 

[Markhor]

One year has passed and Northern Ireland still doesn't have a functioning Government.

Westminster has no leverage over the DUP because they are the ones keeping Theresa May in office.

 

[Markhor]

For the sake of balance, even though I sympathise more with Sinn Fein in this row they didn't help themselves the other week with Barry McElduff.

For those who don't know - he's a SF MLA who tweeted a picture of a loaf of Kingsmill bread on his head.

The relevance being he tweeted it on the Anniversary of the 1976 Kingsmill massacre when 10 Protestant workers were made to get off a bus and were killed by republican militants.

He's been rightly made to resign by SF but there is no trust between the unionists and nationalists right now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

One year has passed and Northern Ireland still doesn't have a functioning Government.

Westminster has no leverage over the DUP because they are the ones keeping Theresa May in office.

Do you know how much of the £1billion has been recieved by the DUP after a year?

 

[Markhor]

Do you know how much of the £1billion has been recieved by the DUP after a year?

Only £20 million of the £1 billion from the deal has been transferred, with £30 million rolled over until the next financial year.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Only £20 million of the £1 billion from the deal has been transferred, with £30 million rolled over until the next financial year.

Thanks. I guess the DUP will not kick up any fuss as long as the alternative is Corybn. May will resign before the nect election and the UK public will probably elect Boris as the yanks did with Trump.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

For the sake of balance, even though I sympathise more with Sinn Fein in this row they didn't help themselves the other week with Barry McElduff.

For those who don't know - he's a SF MLA who tweeted a picture of a loaf of Kingsmill bread on his head.

The relevance being he tweeted it on the Anniversary of the 1976 Kingsmill massacre when 10 Protestant workers were made to get off a bus and were killed by republican militants.

He's been rightly made to resign by SF but there is no trust between the unionists and nationalists right now.

Yes I agree with you on this, they shouldve sacked him immediately.

Still, eventually the right thing was done. When have the DUP ever and I mean ever punished on eof their members for farrr more heinous events?

There will not a return to Stormont until the DUP face reality, Unionist control of the North is dead and gone, and will remain so. Until then they can enjoy their current position until the Government inevitably falls and they'll have tp face reality eventually.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

For the sake of balance, even though I sympathise more with Sinn Fein in this row they didn't help themselves the other week with Barry McElduff.

For those who don't know - he's a SF MLA who tweeted a picture of a loaf of Kingsmill bread on his head.

The relevance being he tweeted it on the Anniversary of the 1976 Kingsmill massacre when 10 Protestant workers were made to get off a bus and were killed by republican militants.

He's been rightly made to resign by SF but there is no trust between the unionists and nationalists right now.

Also, how can Nationalists ever I mean ever trust the DUP?

SF certainly have their issues, some IRA fanatics in the party and die hards who need to accept Unionism must be accommodated in any future UI that is to occur.

But what of the DUP? Unapologetic in support for British forces actions in the conflict, tho this day canvassing with UDA members as Arlene Foster did in the last election wit Dee Stitt, they never agreed to the GFA in the first place and constantly renege on previous agreements and continuous insults towards Ireland (Sammy Wilson hilariously calling our Taoiseach a "nutcase" last week and good old Flegory Campbell, a viler individual you would not meet, regularly insulting the Irish language and just this day blaming the raising of paramilitary flags on the eve of Bloody Sunday on Nationalists in the Bogside!)

Not to mention the general incompetence of the party.

its absolutely impossible to build trust with people who's very ideology has and always will be based on oppressing the "enemy".

The only political party in NI with a clean slate and sense is Alliance but one glacne at the abuse Naomi Long puts up says all there is to know about tribalism in the North im afraid.

 

[Markhor]

STILL no powersharing agreement and no Government in Northern ireland. Its been 13 months ! Are we living in a banana republic ?

The reason is clear. One side refuses to honour its commitments from the St Andrews agreement. They refuse to allow an Irish Language Act or funding for Troubles-era "legacy inquests" because Ulster Unionism hasn't changed. Bigotry is embedded in their identity - don't treat Catholics as equal citizens, don't even acknowledge Irish culture or heritage, the same old Protestant colonial mentality that caused this century old conflict.

Why are these people incapable of compromise ? They said no to Sunningdale in 1972, no to the Anglo-Irish Agreement of 1985 and no to the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.

Ideally, with a Westminster government that had a majority and a leader with backbone - these people would not be given a PENNY until they make concessions. However, it is the Orange sash that keeps Theresa May in power.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

http://www.irishnews.com/news/north...-collapse-of-talks-1270698/?param=ds441rif44T

So the DUP consulted two terrorist groups, the UDA and UVF, the former being those who shot dead a man in front of his three year old son last year in Bangor. Both being active drug dealers to this day too.

Lovely.

 

[s28]

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[s28]

Somebody is holding the British Prime Minister hostage against her will. Please if you know anything of her whereabouts get in touch with the authorities !!!

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[Markhor]

Well this coalition is going to the dogs. The DUP refused to support Conservative legislation for the SECOND day running due to their opposition to May's Brexit proposals.

This meant the Government was forced to accept Labour and SNP amendments to its finance bill.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Well this coalition is going to the dogs. The DUP refused to support Conservative legislation for the SECOND day running due to their opposition to May's Brexit proposals.

This meant the Government was forced to accept Labour and SNP amendments to its finance bill.

The DUP now have the distinction of collapsing two separate Governments in two separate locations within 2 years.

Its actually sensational to watch Unionism implode before my eyes. Every single NI business body, Manufacturing NI, the Ulster Farmers Council (staunchly Unionist) has backed May's deal, DUP reply?

Call them puppets )

Theyre so out of their depth and its amazing to watch them get shown up. THIS is what Nationalism in NI has had to live with for decades.

Apparently they've gotten Boris Johnson and other as of yet unnamed guests for their annual conference next week. Watch this space......

 

[Donal Cozzie]

DUP backed Brexit not having a bloody clue what it entailed, not even expecting a win, just wanted to shout some bluster about the great Empire and foreigners for a few weeks and have some fun.

They won, not having a bulls notion what would happen as a consequence, got a golden ticket to the UK Government and rather than face reality, buried heads in the sand, insulted Ireland, the EU,Remainers hell now they're even at the TORIES throats, the Conservative and UNIONIST party )

Now, they've alienated moderate Unionists, Unionist businesspeople, Unionist farmers. Unionist youth, the mainland UK who they are LOYAL to, the EU, absolutely everything.

And come the hour which has been coming for months now, when the consequences of their bluster approach, the alienation of their own electorate, outright hostility at the majority in NI who voted Remain, the overwhelming majority who place a semi functioning statelet over eating flegs for dinner, when that approaches, and offers one final, final chance at leadership, at political nuance, at general human decency to the DUP before they, their ideology, and their "precious Union" go over a cliff edge, they will have one final chance at a reply.

NO SURRENDER!! ) )

 

[Markhor]

To purposefully misquote Churchill - never has so much been spent for such little in return.

What has this Conservative-DUP alliance produced for May ?

 

[Technics 1210]

What has this Conservative-DUP alliance produced for May ?

Blood Money at the tune of £2 Billion.