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Will this chase of 381 be greatest in history of Test cricket?

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I have a strange feeling that Pakistan will pull this off.

Wait, hear me out.

Not because they are good.

But because Shafiq and Sarfraz will play amazing innings, Azhar will chip in with a dour 50.

Babar will have one off failure, and status quo will remain as selectors will look back at Shafiq, Azhar and Sarfraz and decide they won in a great chase so they are useful for future.

Discuss.
 
No.

They will last 45-50 overs and score around 190, as usual.
 
Looks highly unlikely. Even if it happens it cant mask our poor planning and strategy.
 
Well there's definitely enough time to do it, no doubt about that. But our batsmen are not good enough. I do think we will get a decent score though. #MoralVictory
 
If Hafeez was in the team, then I would have said we have a chance given his success in Australia and South Africa, but without the Little Master , scoring 380 odd is not a walk in the park.
 
Yes I agree. Interestingly I looked out of my window today and saw a large pink animal with a snout flying past, sorry if slightly off topic.
 
If pakistan get to 81 without being 5 wickets down it will be a miracle.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Yes I agree. Interestingly I looked out of my window today and saw a large pink animal with a snout flying past, sorry if slightly off topic.
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Oh ye of little faith.

What if you saw a spoonbill...
 
Pak will score about 280 .. winning is out of question now. But some batsmen will play fearless
 
I don't care about the runs at the minute. I want them to get to the 2nd new ball, that should be the target.

We will see where we are then.
I do still think getting 20 wickets for 570 runs by our bowlers was a good effort, ( despite the mental difficulty as the lead went over 220) so it is a very battable wicket.
Shan is the absolute key here, I trust him more than Babar to go big
 
It can happen. There are 8 proper batsmen in this team.
 
Two things that aren't happening in 2019

1.) Pakistan batting line up improvement

2.) Optimistic or realistic pak fans lol



mark my words , pakistan will not even score 290
 
So if Pak were to do this, the card would have to look something like,
Shan 160
Imam 37
Azhar 63
Asad 42
 
It can be done. The fact that we're playing at Wanderers makes it a bit more likely. There have been some crazy chases here.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I'd be surprised if the test averages of those 8 'proper batsmen' backed that up.
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Averages aren’t very high which is probably why they decided to add two more batsmen in this match. It’s definitely possible if they can somehow hang in there.
 
I need to see 250/1 on the board, then we'll talk.
 
Sarfaraz and Mickey be like....


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if and if its done , it will go down as one of greatest chases in history of game if not greatest. Against steyn , rabada, Philander and co
 
Even if they do it would not be the greatest. Dead rubber and other chases like SA chasing 414, Lara vs Aus in 1999 and India vs England in Chennai would be more impressive. This is a meaningless match.
 
Teams have won live tests by chasing big. Some have done it with series in line.
 
Not many teams can win this one. May be SA itself with AB and Faf can win. Don't think other teams can win. It is a matter of one or two wickets which will be followed by dramatic collapse. From 145/3 to 190 all out. It is very much possibility. You have to get past 320 with 6 wickets in hand to dream about this win.
 
If it happens, and that is a big if, then it will be even greater than their record chase against Sri Lanka and a glimmer of hope in a test tour where they have not always been at their best.
 
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Dr_Bassim said:
I have a strange feeling that Pakistan will pull this off.

Wait, hear me out.

Not because they are good.

But because Shafiq and Sarfraz will play amazing innings, Azhar will chip in with a dour 50.

Babar will have one off failure, and status quo will remain as selectors will look back at Shafiq, Azhar and Sarfraz and decide they won in a great chase so they are useful for future.

Discuss.
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I agree. Just the way Pakistan played today, it's not even that I wouldn't be surprised. I genuinely think they will get there. The wicket is great for batting.

The biggest factor is that after Sarfraz, instead of incompetent bunnies you guys will have Shadab and Faheem who are good batsmen and bat very positively.
 
😂 Majid you forgot about the Asian Bradman Azhar who's still in the side and can inspire his troops to achieve this miracle!
 
I hope Asad/Babar do the Langer/Gilly and chase down this total.

Aussies were 121/ 5 i think at one stage.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
The pitch is better. Also the big difference is that Faheem and Shadab are genuinely good batsmen, so there are 3 guys who can bat yet to come.
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They are not chasing 280 here. It's 380. A long way to go.

Pakistan lost it when Pakistani pacers couldn't bowl out SA cheaply after having them at 93/5.

93/5 to 300+.

200+ runs were added by the last 5 wickets.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
The pitch is better. Also the big difference is that Faheem and Shadab are genuinely good batsmen, so there are 3 guys who can bat yet to come.
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In what world is faheem a genuinely good bat? His batting is tailender level. I'd back Hasan Ali to score more runs than him.
 
Pak is already 3 down. 310-320 and you had a minor chance. I have a feeling Pak will get to 240/4 or something like that and then collapse in 2nd session.

Hope i am proven wrong. Pak does deserve to win a test this series, hopefully it is tomorrow!
 
aloo paratha said:
In what world is faheem a genuinely good bat? His batting is tailender level. I'd back Hasan Ali to score more runs than him.
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Faheem is probably equal to Fakhar with the bat minus the temperament and batting intelligence.
 
Buffet said:
They are not chasing 280 here. It's 380. A long way to go.

Pakistan lost it when Pakistani pacers couldn't bowl out SA cheaply after having them at 93/5.

93/5 to 300+.

200+ runs were added by the last 5 wickets.
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one can argue pitch have ease out after intail burst from pakistan bowling .there is hope for us
 
saeed5646 said:
one can argue pitch have ease out after intail burst from pakistan bowling .there is hope for us
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It did ease out, but allowing 200+ form the last 5 was poor effort from Pakistan. I think game was lost there.
 
It is still a long way off. We need a 2 hour counterattack from Asad and sarfaraz which brings the target below 100 and then shadab can prove his worth knocking off the last hundred with Babar. One thing is clear Babar needs that big knock off 140*
We can dream about all of these things if Babar and Asad can get restarted tomorrow
 
Buffet said:
It did ease out, but allowing 200+ form the last 5 was poor effort from Pakistan. I think game was lost there.
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yes basically this, Pakistan cornered them but let them escape I think at that stage Pakistan lacked a bowler like steyn who can bowl a rapid burst, not saying sarfraz captaincy was of any help. i think shadab was under bowled on this pitch.
 
[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION] IDK whats with you but you are cursed when it comes to Pakistan cricket. Now i am sure that we are going to lose the match.
 
Slim said:
[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION] IDK whats with you but you are cursed when it comes to Pakistan cricket. Now i am sure that we are going to lose the match.
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Before he opened this thread, it was 90% in favor of Pakistan.
 
Buffet said:
It did ease out, but allowing 200+ form the last 5 was poor effort from Pakistan. I think game was lost there.
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You can’t expect the bowlers to keep digging you out of holes consistently. The batting has made this a one-sided series, while the bowlers have tried their best to make it competitive.

I think the bowlers just ran out of steam and the pitch also got much better for batting.
 
amax said:
yes basically this, Pakistan cornered them but let them escape I think at that stage Pakistan lacked a bowler like steyn who can bowl a rapid burst, not saying sarfraz captaincy was of any help. i think shadab was under bowled on this pitch.
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SA batting line up is actually very poor right now. You are right, Pakistan lacked one bowler like Steyn who could bowl rapidly. None of the pacers put extra effort otherwise Pakistan actually bowled reasonably well.
 
A successful chase with Babar's failure and trust in azahr, sarfraz and Shafiq is doomed to begin with. Azhar has already gone to the pavilion without scoring a helping 50. All relies on babar and Shafiq's partnership now. We can't expect more than 40ish runs from sarfraz and that's would be in a best case scenario, while our tail has been the worst I have seen over the years. Though with the inclusion of Shadab there might be some resistance this time around.
 
Usman Chadda said:
You can’t expect the bowlers to keep digging you out of holes consistently. The batting has made this a one-sided series, while the bowlers have tried their best to make it competitive.

I think the bowlers just ran out of steam and the pitch also got much better for batting.
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I think you are going soft on bowlers. Batting or bowling , both can be praised or criticized independently. Not many tests are won in SA if you allow lower 5 to add 200+ runs.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Pak is already 3 down. 310-320 and you had a minor chance. I have a feeling Pak will get to 240/4 or something like that and then collapse in 2nd session.

Hope i am proven wrong. Pak does deserve to win a test this series, hopefully it is tomorrow!
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It's ironic that Pakistan have become so bad that even Indian fans want Pakistan to win and secure some sort of respect.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
At this rate of scoring, there will be around 80 runs left when the new ball is available. It will be a factor, but if things go wrong for SA it might be late.
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All they have to do is having an in-out field to stifle the flow. This is not ODI. If you want to stifle the scoring you can do. It is the case in SA always since the days of 90s. They always have attacing field set. That is why we have seen so many counter-attacking innings since the days of Kapil dev launching against Donald when India was reeling at 31/5 to get a 100. Then Azharuddin/Tendulkar capetown classic. Sehwag/Tendulkar counterattack on Sehwag/s debut test. Azhar Mahmood 128. More recently pandya 93. You will see so many gaps always all the time. Because they always hope their bowlers can get one ball right.
 
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Buffet said:
I think you are going soft on bowlers. Batting or bowling , both can be praised or criticized independently. Not many tests are won in SA if you allow lower 5 to add 200+ runs.
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No doubt. Shaheen was missed here. He's the guy who could have produced a wicket taking delivery out of nowhere or perhaps bounce out Amla and De Kock.

Some poor captaincy involved as well. Shadab was not brought in until Amla was removed.
 
If the top batsmen stay post 47-48 overs in the 2nd innings on the crease that will be a miracle and moral victory. The top 5 have'nt batted for 40 overs all thruout the series.
 
Buffet said:
I think you are going soft on bowlers. Batting or bowling , both can be praised or criticized independently. Not many tests are won in SA if you allow lower 5 to add 200+ runs.
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Not many tests can be won anywhere if your batting line-up doesn’t cross 200 in four out of five innings on a tour. The bowlers have tried their best, but unfortunately they are the only ones playing for Pakistan out there.
 
No reason why Pakistan shouldn't chase this. They should remember that this is a dead rubber and play their shots as they will be under no pressure to prove anything. PAK bat upto 8. Just play some aggressive shots and score at 6 RPO and hope that Saffers grass a few like they did last innings. You are playing a team that is quite vulnerable under pressure. Unless Steyn bowls his heart out, PAK should win this or atleast go down in a blaze of glory instead of tuk tuking to an inevitable defeat. Can't survive on these pitches when the ball starts jagging around.
 
Miracle at Jo'Burg!!! Just play the same way tomorrow. Attack, Attack and attack. I really sense something special here. Babar century most probably
 
I love being optimistic and Insha Allah we will win but:
A massive problem for our batsmen is that they fail to convert 50s into 100s. Asad, babar, sarfraz, Shan, imam all have got 50s yet they throw it away once they get to 50 and once they throw it away a collapse starts. This has basically been the story of the series. A partnership builds and once both the batsmen get to 50 they throw it away and within the next hour we are bowled out.
If we want to win both babar and shafiq need to get 100s. There is literally no other way that we will win because I have no trust on sarfraz, shadab and the hack faheem.
 
rhony said:
Miracle at Jo'Burg!!! Just play the same way tomorrow. Attack, Attack and attack. I really sense something special here. Babar century most probably
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You do realise this attacking mindset is more likely to induce a collapse than anything else. I agree we should look to score but play sensible. Don't chase really wide ones and don't do what faheem did in the first innings.
 
Right now I would say there is a 10% chance of a Pakistan win because recently we have been extremely poor in chases. I can't imagine this batting line-up chasing 381 against SA in SA against Steyn, Rabada, Philander and Olivier.
 
Minnowbasher said:
You do realise this attacking mindset is more likely to induce a collapse than anything else. I agree we should look to score but play sensible. Don't chase really wide ones and don't do what faheem did in the first innings.
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What sensible? They are going great and should continue. Win or die trying. Can't wait for day 4.
 
Don't think many of us are actually expecting a Pakistan win but excited for tomorrow's play regardless. I just hope these two stay there as long as possible, they just can't give their wickets away, put value on your wicket, if you get out to a great ball, fair enough, important that our batsmen put away the bad balls and give respect to the good ones, there is no time pressure at all, it's only Day 4 tomorrow so we can afford to take it slowly.

My prediction after today's play is 283 all out
 
A few bouncers and the lower order will fall like flies there's more chance of Hafeez becoming blessed in all facets than 381 being chased here.
 
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