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Someone rightly said, Pakistan has no talent. When your domestic performers perform like school kids against B teams then there’s some serious problem.

Sharjeel + Babar as openers is surely better than Rizwan + Babar as you can’t have two accumulators opening in a T20I match

Malik is still better than your Talat, Iftikhar and Khushdil combined and also a better fielder and a bowlet

Wahab is million times better than as [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] says the stone thrower

The best option for Pak to compete is

Sharjeel
Babar *
Hafeez
Haider
Malik
Rizwan/ Azam +
Faheem
Imad
Wahab
Shadab
Shaheen

Also this deepens the batting line up with Shadab at #10
 
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We will definitely see Wahab before the World T20, Malik potentially as he is good against spin. I genuinely hope we don’t see that fixer play. With Rizwan doing well as an opener , it shouldn’t happen.
 
Malik would provide a lot of steadiness and stability like he always has. He’s been working on a secret bowling technique that will put the teesra to shame, we could be in for a pleasant surprise.
 
Oh please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One more loss in the team with Wahab Malik and Sharjeel, and our next thread would be to bring back Shehzad and the Akmal brothers.
 
Chacha ifti, Khushdil and Talat have all had ample opportunities to send Malik away for good but alas, he'll be back for India.

He'll probably be fine anyway, he's decent against spin and can't do worse than any of his supposed replacements. Asif and Azam could stake a claim but Malik is 50 times fitter than both of them even at his age so it's not looking good.

For similar reasons we'll see Wahab return unless Hasnain goes on a mad one.

Sharjeel i doubt will come back. Rizwan the opener may have ended his international career.
 
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For guys who’re against it, I am just being realistic.

Iftikhar, Talat, Khushdil and Rauf has had many opportunities to claim their place, but it looks as if they themselves want to go back to the domestic low level cricket. You can’t help much in that case
 
Iftikhar has been playing only because Misbah loves him as a son. No idea why this guy has been in games for 2-3 years straight. People were just as confused at his selection when he debuted as they are now.

He probably saved Misbah’s life, so this is him repaying the debt. (No seriously, he played when Misbah was captain, then never heard from, and now Misbah is in the set up so ifti is back too)
 
I think sharjeel defo as rizwan should actually come one down in my opinion..fakhar has been tried so its sharjeels turn i guess..with hafeez back i think shoaib shudnt be bak and we have enuff not to bring wahab back
 
We were told by fake bowling experts that Wahab has finally learned to swing the new ball at the age of 40, so perhaps we should give him a go because the tape ball hack is clearly not up to the task.
 
Mamoon said:
We were told by fake bowling experts that Wahab has finally learned to swing the new ball at the age of 40, so perhaps we should give him a go because the tape ball hack is clearly not up to the task.
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Wahab is an absolutely dreadful bowler. Just terrible. He has never learned to improve himself. In ODI's, a underrated bowler like Nathan Bracken bowling a 130 kph is a million times preferable to Wahab's "pace".

Pace only matters when you have other attributes (like swing, accuracy etc, aka Dale Steyn) to compliment it. Pure pace means nothing.

Wahab has no business ever playing any international cricket. He never did.
 
hk031992 said:
Wahab is an absolutely dreadful bowler. Just terrible. He has never learned to improve himself. In ODI's, a underrated bowler like Nathan Bracken bowling a 130 kph is a million times preferable to Wahab's "pace".

Pace only matters when you have other attributes (like swing, accuracy etc, aka Dale Steyn) to compliment it. Pure pace means nothing.

Wahab has no business ever playing any international cricket. He never did.
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I totally agree, but I just want to see if the fake bowling experts are onto something.
 
Wahab and Malik are past it now, I rightly called for Wahab's inclusion in the last World cup and he showed he was still one of our best limited overs pace options. But age is catching up with him and he no longer holds the same menace. Malik was over the hill four years ago, don't even know why we are talking about him.

Sharjeel was our best opener three years ago, no idea what he is like now, or whether we should be prepared to overlook his fixing history. But that aside, he's far better technically than Fakhar who will be the other option.
 
Suleiman said:
Iftikhar has been playing only because Misbah loves him as a son. No idea why this guy has been in games for 2-3 years straight. People were just as confused at his selection when he debuted as they are now.

He probably saved Misbah’s life, so this is him repaying the debt. (No seriously, he played when Misbah was captain, then never heard from, and now Misbah is in the set up so ifti is back too)
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According to some people he is almost same as of Misbah?
 
Babar_Azam_fan said:
Someone rightly said, Pakistan has no talent. When your domestic performers perform like school kids against B teams then there’s some serious problem.

Sharjeel + Babar as openers is surely better than Rizwan + Babar as you can’t have two accumulators opening in a T20I match

Malik is still better than your Talat, Iftikhar and Khushdil combined and also a better fielder and a bowlet

Wahab is million times better than as [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] says the stone thrower

The best option for Pak to compete is

Sharjeel
Babar *
Hafeez
Haider
Malik
Rizwan/ Azam +
Faheem
Imad
Wahab
Shadab
Shaheen

Also this deepens the batting line up with Shadab at #10
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Wahab won't make a return as far as I'm concerned. Especially if the likes of Hasnain or Hasan get an opportunity today and make the most of it.

There isn't much separating Wahab from Haris, neither can be trusted with the new ball and both concede too many runs to offer any control. Both give at least 2 boundary balls per over, so there's that aspect as well. Both are literal scatterguns, you set a field for a yorker and they bowl a short ball.

If we don't take Malik to the WC, we will get destroyed. He is probably one of the best players of spin in Pakistan, and in a world cup in India, it would be very unwise to leave him out. He can also bowl an over or two of spin if needed, so there's that element as well. He occupies a position at 5 where none of our youngsters have yet to put up a convincing performance.

Sharjeel's comeback will depend on how he does in the PSL. If he can make this PSL a blinder of a season, score flashy 50s and quick fire knocks in the powerplay, he'll make the squad for sure.

Azam Khan is another person who is likely to make the team if he does well in the PSL due to the dearth of a finishing batsman.

Heck, if Afridi does well in the PSL, we might as well take him as a finisher seeing as nobody else has done the job convincingly since he left.

Rizwan was very fluent in the powerplay yesterday, and if he keeps scoring runs quickly in the powerplay, he'd take that spot for himself.

Realistically, if we have a 15 man squad for the WC, the only names I can guarantee who will travel are:

Babar Azam (c), Shadab Khan (vc), Imad Wasim, Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Mohammad Rizwan (wk).

Only 7 names out of 15 are guaranteed so far IMO, and that's just poor stuff really.

Assuming that Azam Khan and Sharjeel do well in the PSL, that comes out to be 9.

Let's also assume that two of Mohammad Hasnain, Haris Rauf, Wahab Riaz, and Hasan Ali do well in the PSL, so their names get there as well, making it 11.

Now you have about 4 slots left, so you need an all-rounder, two batsmen, and a bowler.

Two of Danish Aziz, Zeeshan Malik, Asif Ali, Haider Ali do well and make the squad, making it 13 names.

A spare spinner from Zahid Mahmood, Usman Qadir, or Zafar Gohar is taken as well.

The all-rounder can be an open pick, it's not necessary to have one, so some other person who performed would be taken with the squad.

Note that this is just what I can come up with in the short-run, assuming that the PSL is the ideal benchmark for picking the team. Obviously if one or two of these players fails after the PSL, they will get dropped too.
 
Shame on the fans supporting Sharjeel Khan.

No wonder why Pakistan is the king of spot fixing and corruption.
 
How many more times are we going to even entertain the thought of that human beach ball playing in the side?
 
I think it will happen we will definatley have 1 of the 3 i will even strecht and say 2 of the 3..
.but wont be shocked if all three find a way in the sqaud for the world cup
 
Going back to Malik and Wahab will never be the right answer. No matter the circumstances.
 
Talat, Iftikhar, Khushdil and Asif all had the opportunities to block Malik’s return but unfortunately 4 combined couldn’t do it. The Dead man from the 90s will defeat his 7th death and be back
 
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Let's hope not, if we do then the team can't progress. These guys are perennial failures and offer nothing. After this series we know the likes of Khushdil, Chacha and Asif are not international quality. Next cab of the rank will be Azam,lets see how he goes and with him we need to try one more young batter.
 
Wahab may have learnt to swing the ball in to the right handers, but as i have mentioned in the other thread; for the first time I saw him down on pace and motivation.

He isnt going to bowl with the new ball, in the national side, because Shaheen will have that role, so the declining pace may be a deciding factor for his career.
Let's hope that was a rhythm problem.
 
Hasan123 said:
We will definitely see Wahab before the World T20, Malik potentially as he is good against spin. I genuinely hope we don’t see that fixer play. With Rizwan doing well as an opener , it shouldn’t happen.
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It is your wishful thinking that Wahab & Malik have never been involved in any type of fixing.
 
If Malik performs in the PSL, then why not?

Excellent against spin, live wire in the field, bowls handy offspin and to top it all off, he loves bashing the Indians.

He has a stellar record against india for a reason because of his ability against spin.
 
Barragan said:
If Malik performs in the PSL, then why not?

Excellent against spin, live wire in the field, bowls handy offspin and to top it all off, he loves bashing the Indians.

He has a stellar record against india for a reason because of his ability against spin.
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His offspin isn't handy that handy any more. Also I have noticed that he is reluctant to bowl unless the captain forces him, however I would take him to India for his batting and fielding alone.
 
No chance for Wahab.

HUGE liability if taken along to a World Cup where margins for error are incredibly narrow
 
Barragan said:
If Malik performs in the PSL, then why not?

Excellent against spin, live wire in the field, bowls handy offspin and to top it all off, he loves bashing the Indians.

He has a stellar record against india for a reason because of his ability against spin.
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Are you sure you have the right player? Malik's average and S/R are both lower against India compared to his overall.

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https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...=3;opposition=6;template=results;type=batting

If a team scores at a S/R of 103.79, it will lose 9 out of 10 games.
 
Sharjeel is back, and there have already been reports of Babar wanting Malik in the squad.

I wouldn't be surprised if all three are on the flight to India.
 
Babar_Azam_fan said:
Sharjeel is back, and there have already been reports of Babar wanting Malik in the squad.

I wouldn't be surprised if all three are on the flight to India.
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Will be a disaster if they take Malik. Babar for a young captain, still seems to be going with the ttf mantra of ‘experience’.
 
Mohammad Wasim has mentioned Malik will only find his way into the team once he's made the improvements made of him. Personally I hope Pakistan have officially moved on from Malik and Wahab once and for all.
 
Sharjeel will make it to the WC squad
Malik has half a chance and wahab has no chance
 
Sharjeel has bought himself some more time following a string of some unreal ball striking in the PSL.

I don't want to see Shoaib Malik and Wahab but we all know Misbah's eyes light up when he sees old meat.
 
Rizwan +
Babar *
Fakhar
Hafeez
Malik
Imad
Faheem
Nawaz
Hassan
Shadab/ Usman/ Rauf
Shaheen
 
The way things our going at the moment a lot depends on PSL this year. With all the middle order failing we only see Hafeez as lone survivor in the team. Malik at 6 followed by faheem imad shadab hassan is good enough to hit out at the end. With Babar and rizwan at the top we can allow this formula and guide Haider into the play.

I would still open with Fakhar in the World Cup still and keep Sharjeel as back up. So they both know to fire and stay alert.

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar
Hafeez
Malik
Umar Akmal
Shadab
Imad
Wahab
Amir
Shaheen

Will win the world cup
 
The answer to OP's question is an obvious yes. I can already hear misbah saying

"For big tournaments you need experience and that's what Malik, Sohail Tanvir and Wahab Riaz provide"

*facepalm*
 
Maher96 said:
The way things our going at the moment a lot depends on PSL this year. With all the middle order failing we only see Hafeez as lone survivor in the team. Malik at 6 followed by faheem imad shadab hassan is good enough to hit out at the end. With Babar and rizwan at the top we can allow this formula and guide Haider into the play.

I would still open with Fakhar in the World Cup still and keep Sharjeel as back up. So they both know to fire and stay alert.

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar
Hafeez
Malik
Umar Akmal
Shadab
Imad
Wahab
Amir
Shaheen

Will win the world cup
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You missed Kamran Akmal and Salman Butt bro..
 
Don't know about Wahab, but if Danish, Asif, and Haider keep failing they way they are, it's probably only a matter of time before the cries to bring Malik back grow louder. Don't know Mohammad Wasim's opinion on him, but I have a feeling he'll try Azam Khan before just giving in and recalling Malik.
 
Line and Length said:
Don't know about Wahab, but if Danish, Asif, and Haider keep failing they way they are, it's probably only a matter of time before the cries to bring Malik back grow louder. Don't know Mohammad Wasim's opinion on him, but I have a feeling he'll try Azam Khan before just giving in and recalling Malik.
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I have heard malik only wants to bat at the 4 position
 
He is still Pak's best player of spin. But the thing is in wt20, instead of Ahmad Danial, Haris Rauf, Dhani, Sohail, Musa, Fahim, Hasnain etc there are going to be the boult, ferguson, starc, cummins etc he will have to negotiate with atleast in the group stage. And in our pool, Australia(Zampa, Agar, Swepson), NZ(Santner), WI(fabian allen) aren't amongst the best spinners of t20is maybe except zampa(fakhar can really dominate the leggies well)

But I still think he would be an upgrade over Asif, Iftikhar, Khushdil etc. For some reason, I still rate Talat and think he will come good in a few years hopefully if he works with the right people with the right work ethic.
 
Well from recent results it seems like both Malik and Wahab are guaranteed spots in the team, or at least they should be guaranteed spots now.

The PCB, if they had any sense, would review their squads for the tours of England and West Indies (if possible) and make some necessary changes.

Wahab will make it in before the WC as he is arguably the greatest fast bowler in PSL history, and has has started bowling with some sense now. He is also showing that he can be useful as a slogger down the order if necessary.

Malik will come, and frankly, he is needed in the middle order. Against spin, he has been excellent, and his performances are good enough for a spot on the team.

Sohaib Maqsood is also necessary, he has done really well in the PSL.

Haider is a wasted slot, so I'd drop him from the tour. Sharjeel is also a waste of space given his fitness, so I'd drop him as well.

I'd also drop Hafeez, he's not doing well right now.

Babar and Rizwan is the perfect opening combination. Put Fakhar at 3 and just let him go after the ball, with Malik at 4. Maqsood can come at 5 and then fill the 6+7 slot with two guys who can slap a chunk off the ball. Wahab, Shaheen, and Hasan should be our pacers, but we have another void in our spin department which hasn't been fixed.
 
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

Rizwan
Sharjeel
Babar
Sohaib M
Hafeez
Iftikhar Ahmed
Imad
Nawaz
Hassan Ali
Amir
Shaheen

-Batting till 10.
-4 spinners.
-Amir/Shaheen new ball and death
-Hasan 1st change and death

Back-up:
Spin: Usman Q, Zahid M, Shadab
Pace: Wahab, Rauf, and Dahani
Batting: Fakhar Zaman and Malik.
All rounder: Faheem
 
Whoever gets selected, I have a feeling this T20 squad would probably be one of the most unlikable squads ever. Malik, Hafeez, Ifti, Wahab, Safraz and the list goes on and on. There is going to be nothing exciting because in this format Babar plays with his own style and Shaheen is perhaps the only one people would want to see and that too if he is on song and is able to bowl with pace.
 
Sharjeel , Maqsood, Malik, Asif Ali, Chacha Iftikar and Wahab all should be back.
 
I think we can keep coming back to this thread for the next 5 years. Theirs no talent to fill the void so I guess where just stuck with seniors from here out.
 
Can Wahab Riaz be ignored for the World Cup? Done really well in PSL.
 
Wahab earned his spot back. He deserves to be there.

He has become a very good new ball bowler.
 
What has Sharjeel done to earn a place in the side?

I can see Malik and Wahab back, and as much as it pains me to say it, including these oldies might be the right decision given the utter rubbish we've been playing recently.
 
Wahab should definitely be there for world t20. He has been amazing in bowling even in batting he has done well and his fielding has always been top notch.Wahab is very much needed.
Shoaib Malik has also done well and he is obviously much better than all the guys who have been tried in middle order.
Sharjeel the hack is not needed.He is good for nothing.He should never play an international match ever again.
 
It amazes me how Wahab continues to fool people. Every year, he bowls well in PSL, we are told he has “improved”, and then he returns to international cricket and continues to be deeply mediocre.

Shaheen, Hassan and Amir, yes Amir, are all better options as far as pace bowlers are concerned. There is no room for Wahab in the playing XI.

Sharjeel is a joke of a player who is not good enough to play for an associate team. He is not even half the player that someone like Zazai is. In addition, his fitness is comical.

He should never represent Pakistan again.

As far as Malik is concerned, the reality is that he still walks into our middle-order and is our best player of spin, such is the lack of talent in Pakistan.

I would rather have him face the likes of Jadeja and Chahal on Indian pitches than some hyped up young batsman with zero talent and skill.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
The bold question is that do we leave out Shaheen given his form has declined?
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Shaheen really isn't that good. No other top team in the world would take him over any of the pacers they have. However, by our standards we have nobody to replace him.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
How has his form declined? He is the third highest wicket-taker in the tournament.
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Ask yourself this on these conditions will he be able to trouble the Indian batsmen? He got smashed before by them. He's good against other teams but would get smashed by India.
 
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