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Will you take the vaccine for Covid-19?

Will you take the vaccine for Covid-19?


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Still waiting for the microchips, involvement of 5G and finding of “insert the name of your choice of rich western dude here” as the evil master mind behind the pandemic.

We are talking about the vaccines, not those other things.I personally never spoke about 5G or a person causing the pandemic
But when the vaccines came out I believed they didnt prevent transmission the way it was claimed it did. Nor were there no side effects as was initially claimed
You may have forgotten but I still remember how merely someone mentioning someone took Pfizer or Moderna and then got a stroke or adverse reaction saw either the post blocked on twitter or FB taking down the post or the post hidden by a large warning about it being "fact checked".
 
What helped me to become curious and skeptic was that during the pandemic in the one city with the most draconian vaccine system in the entire world

And the hillarious thing was they initially funded the Chinese vaccine and people taking Pfizer were initially not recognized as being "safe'
Soon enough they did a U turn and accepted Pfizer as well
I have some friends who live how media tells them to live and they have taken 2 doses of sinopharm followed by 2 doses of Pfizer followed by 2 pfizer boosters

And one of them caught covid 3 or 4 times and still believes his 6 doses is saving his life. Though we have people with 2 doses living the same way
 
We are talking about the vaccines, not those other things.I personally never spoke about 5G or a person causing the pandemic
But when the vaccines came out I believed they didnt prevent transmission the way it was claimed it did. Nor were there no side effects as was initially claimed
You may have forgotten but I still remember how merely someone mentioning someone took Pfizer or Moderna and then got a stroke or adverse reaction saw either the post blocked on twitter or FB taking down the post or the post hidden by a large warning about it being "fact checked".

My post was in response to something else.

Look, no medical science is absolute, that’s the basis of allopathic medicine. It has side effects. Even Aspiring which is a very very common pain relief drug, used by millions if not billions has caused deaths because it has the potential to weaken your stomach lining and cause GI bleed. Point is there is risk with everything but we cannot deny the fact that drugs and vaccines save lives. I can only speak to the COVID vaccines here in the US, Pfizer and Moderna. I know they saved a lot of lives. If they did not totally prevent the disease, they definitely softened the blow A LOT and made it easy for the compromised to survive.

The draconian laws and weird mandates I don’t agree with. Those were unnecessary after the vaccines came out. If you want to protect yourself take the jab, DONE. No need to impose it on others, they should be smart enough to know what’s good for them, especially those people with compromised family members.
 
The death of a doctor after his Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab was due to "unintended complications of the vaccine", an inquest has ruled.

Stephen Wright, an NHS psychologist in south-east London, died 10 days after his first dose in January 2021, senior coroner Andrew Harris found.

Dr Wright, 32, suffered a blood clot to the brain after receiving the vaccine.

His wife Charlotte has been trying to get the "natural causes" wording on her husband's death certificate changed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65321937

Unbelievable he was down as natural causes and his wife had to fight to get this changed!
 
The truth is coming out, and with it the lies being exposed.

More vindication by the day for those who refused to take the vaccine!

What vindication, may I ask? That out of 50 million there were reports of 1300 deaths? Let me do the hard part for you here. Thats 0.0026% chance of death. Whereas COVID mortality rate was 12.9% prior to the vaccination.
 
The truth is coming out, and with it the lies being exposed.

More vindication by the day for those who refused to take the vaccine!

I remember(not sure if mentioned in this thread) more than a year ago, various nations suspended or were worried about the Aztrazenca vaccine but UK continued.

What is very worrying is the Dr's death was put down as natural causes, the wife had to battle hard to pursue the truth. As this poor victim was a Dr, the hospital took it upon themselves to investigate and called the wife in to inform her her husband died as a result of the vaccine causing a bloodclot. The poor chap has two kids he left behind.

Im no fan of GB news but mainstream wont give her a interview. Here she is .


As mentioned on here months ago, natural immunity is far superiour than any vaccine. Covid now is seen as nothing more serious than the flu can be.
 
I remember(not sure if mentioned in this thread) more than a year ago, various nations suspended or were worried about the Aztrazenca vaccine but UK continued.

What is very worrying is the Dr's death was put down as natural causes, the wife had to battle hard to pursue the truth. As this poor victim was a Dr, the hospital took it upon themselves to investigate and called the wife in to inform her her husband died as a result of the vaccine causing a bloodclot. The poor chap has two kids he left behind.

Im no fan of GB news but mainstream wont give her a interview. Here she is .


As mentioned on here months ago, natural immunity is far superiour than any vaccine. Covid now is seen as nothing more serious than the flu can be.

You have been peddling these lies grounded in lack of education for years now and you keep repeating the same old tired conspiracy theory talking points.

Natural immunity varies from person to person and someone in the best of shapes humanly possible might be able to claim the vaccine will not do him/her any good. But for the 99% of the rest of the population, vaccine induced immunity is far far better than natural immunity.

These are not just some talking points, they are medical facts, which can be validate from any credible source.

Next time use a credible source to back such ridiculous claims.
 
You have been peddling these lies grounded in lack of education for years now and you keep repeating the same old tired conspiracy theory talking points.

Natural immunity varies from person to person and someone in the best of shapes humanly possible might be able to claim the vaccine will not do him/her any good. But for the 99% of the rest of the population, vaccine induced immunity is far far better than natural immunity.

These are not just some talking points, they are medical facts, which can be validate from any credible source.

Next time use a credible source to back such ridiculous claims.

lol. Have some shame.

A Dr has died as a result of the vaccine, no condolences or respect for his family, just the usual nonsense. Natural immunity is over 28X more effective. This rubbish about individual only applies to those who have certain serious sicknesses.

No sane human should ever take your advice after you foolishly told people to stay away from family, not knowing the vaccine was never tested to stop transmission.
 
I remember(not sure if mentioned in this thread) more than a year ago, various nations suspended or were worried about the Aztrazenca vaccine but UK continued.

What is very worrying is the Dr's death was put down as natural causes, the wife had to battle hard to pursue the truth. As this poor victim was a Dr, the hospital took it upon themselves to investigate and called the wife in to inform her her husband died as a result of the vaccine causing a bloodclot. The poor chap has two kids he left behind.

Im no fan of GB news but mainstream wont give her a interview. Here she is .


As mentioned on here months ago, natural immunity is far superiour than any vaccine. Covid now is seen as nothing more serious than the flu can be.

Natural immunity was always the winner.

We now know, through the Whatsapp leaks, that the Government forced the MSM to push a Covid scare story, to provide immunity to Vaccine manufacturers from prosecution, vaccines were fast tracked, and that the number of deaths was sensationalised.

Now more people are dying of flu than Covid, and the vaccines are causing long term health issues.

Above all, the attempted cover ups and incorrect causes of death, are now being exposed.

We (people like you and I) said all along that this was all an exaggerated hoax, but sadly we were outnumbered by people who lapped up the lies because they lack self critical thinking. Well, their 'cboice' to stick with MSM.

Oh the best part, the Governments now agree the Virus came from a lab!
 
lol. Have some shame.

A Dr has died as a result of the vaccine, no condolences or respect for his family, just the usual nonsense. Natural immunity is over 28X more effective. This rubbish about individual only applies to those who have certain serious sicknesses.

No sane human should ever take your advice after you foolishly told people to stay away from family, not knowing the vaccine was never tested to stop transmission.

As usually nothing but uneducated rhetoric regurgitated like a minion of the conspiracy theorist websites.

People really should learn to do basic mathematics such as calculating percentage of mortality based on control population and people dying, due to disease and vaccination, its simple basic education and does not require a degree in medical sciences or technoliogy before they come to such debates. Most links shared by conspiracy theorists actually have those numbers listed there themselves. I am using numbers taken from the sources you anti vaxxers shared. So clearly the question is who is really shamless here?

I am sorry but nobody here who claims he has never been vaccinated or even taken paracetamol, and likes to talk about conspiracy theories is ever going to convince me using pseudo science. You have no respect or no credibility in my eyes. Take that to the bank and cash it! :)
 
Natural immunity was always the winner.

We now know, through the Whatsapp leaks, that the Government forced the MSM to push a Covid scare story, to provide immunity to Vaccine manufacturers from prosecution, vaccines were fast tracked, and that the number of deaths was sensationalised.

Now more people are dying of flu than Covid, and the vaccines are causing long term health issues.

Above all, the attempted cover ups and incorrect causes of death, are now being exposed.

We (people like you and I) said all along that this was all an exaggerated hoax, but sadly we were outnumbered by people who lapped up the lies because they lack self critical thinking. Well, their 'cboice' to stick with MSM.

Oh the best part, the Governments now agree the Virus came from a lab!

A lot was hidden, some of it so disgusting it was for political reasons. New report.

What they will hide is the US funded gain of function.

Imo the US spread it from Wuhan but it got out of control.



CIA analysts kept quiet about COVID lab leaks because they didn't want to agree with Trump, his former Director of National Intelligence says in bombshell testimony claiming Biden administration is scared of damaging relationship with China

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ab-leaks-not-agree-Trump-former-DNI-says.html

Also the fear put out caused distress, stress and worry, along with lockdowns it caused peoples immune systems to weaken.

Its a shame so many are like sheep whether its Covid, Ukraine, LBGT etc. Their God is MSM and the western ideology.
 
As usually nothing but uneducated rhetoric regurgitated like a minion of the conspiracy theorist websites.

People really should learn to do basic mathematics such as calculating percentage of mortality based on control population and people dying, due to disease and vaccination, its simple basic education and does not require a degree in medical sciences or technoliogy before they come to such debates. Most links shared by conspiracy theorists actually have those numbers listed there themselves. I am using numbers taken from the sources you anti vaxxers shared. So clearly the question is who is really shamless here?

I am sorry but nobody here who claims he has never been vaccinated or even taken paracetamol, and likes to talk about conspiracy theories is ever going to convince me using pseudo science. You have no respect or no credibility in my eyes. Take that to the bank and cash it! :)

More trash. Address the points.

Let me make it easier.

1. Have people died because of vaccines?

2. Have been suffered vaccine damage?

3. Is Natural immunity upto 28 x better protection than the vaccine?

4. Was it kept hidden the vaccine doesnt stop tramission?

5. Is Covid a lab made virus?
 
A lot was hidden, some of it so disgusting it was for political reasons. New report.

What they will hide is the US funded gain of function.

Imo the US spread it from Wuhan but it got out of control.





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ab-leaks-not-agree-Trump-former-DNI-says.html

Also the fear put out caused distress, stress and worry, along with lockdowns it caused peoples immune systems to weaken.

Its a shame so many are like sheep whether its Covid, Ukraine, LBGT etc. Their God is MSM and the western ideology.

So the CIA felt it was worth killing innocent people (not the first time) instead of agreeing with Trump.

Trump vindicated too!

The masters of Liberalism afraid of Trump. :)))

Trump 2024!
 
More trash. Address the points.

Let me make it easier.

1. Have people died because of vaccines?

2. Have been suffered vaccine damage?

3. Is Natural immunity upto 28 x better protection than the vaccine?

4. Was it kept hidden the vaccine doesnt stop tramission?

5. Is Covid a lab made virus?

This is not how you debate, show me evidence from credible sources. Until such time these are just baseless claims. You shared some media above and I already disproved your point there. Sharing such stuff is one thing, making intelligent arguments out of it is another. Let us see if you can do it. Try again.
 
This is not how you debate, show me evidence from credible sources. Until such time these are just baseless claims. You shared some media above and I already disproved your point there. Sharing such stuff is one thing, making intelligent arguments out of it is another. Let us see if you can do it. Try again.

lol. You will find them in the thread.

Never mind, each to their own. Eid Mubarak to you and you family, may you all stay safe and well.
 
So the CIA felt it was worth killing innocent people (not the first time) instead of agreeing with Trump.

Trump vindicated too!

The masters of Liberalism afraid of Trump. :)))

Trump 2024!

Trump is a threat to the CIA,Deep State, he called them out in his latest speech. Trump is a showman and a businessman but not a complete tool of the elite,.

Trump did make the odd gaff but overall he pointed to other medicines, which we now know work well. There was never a need for any vaccine, it was created for profit, which has also been proven.
 
This thread is so popular with conspiracy theorists. COVID is now intermingled with Trump, CIA, one conspiracy theory or another, maybe include the Jewish messiah in here too,
Earth is flat? CIA concocted the covid virus to make money? it is man made and they injected you with DNA altering stuff in the covid vaccine to make us all mini Dajjals? BIDEN is the dajjal? or is it CHAI WALLA?
Or is it BIBI? Putin is probably not a Dajjal because we like him since he is fighting the USA? lol


Such wonderful entertainment! keep it up you guys..
 
Trump is a threat to the CIA,Deep State, he called them out in his latest speech. Trump is a showman and a businessman but not a complete tool of the elite,.

Trump did make the odd gaff but overall he pointed to other medicines, which we now know work well. There was never a need for any vaccine, it was created for profit, which has also been proven.

Yup, the scare vaccines were created for profit and control of society.

Isn't it hillarious, Liberalism is all up for choice but afraid of the truth!
 
If some educated people on this thread are to be believed, we should stop giving polio virus vaccine to Pakistani children as they have natural immunity. Such illogical rhetoric is coming from those living in the first world and have access to information. No wonder Pakistan still has polio and there is widespread opposition against vaccines.
 
Polio vaccines and all other vaccines we are used to from childhood are a different animal compared to the covid vaccines particularly the mrna ones

The way Pfizer and co. were pushed by the media was weird. Reports of people having reactions after AZ and then Pfizer were blocked on social media in the initial days as fake news. Later it transpired that indeed many people had adverse including fatal reactions to the Mrna vaccines

There are many countries where a minor % of the population received covid vaccines. People there are hardly dying of covid at a higher rate than countries with high % of vaccination.
Almost half of America is unvaccinated, are people who are unvaccinated catching covid at a higher rate than those who took it?

Also the messaging has been alarmist and hyperbolic

In the initial days the message pushed was get vaxxed to avoid catching covid, later found out as compeletely untrue

Then there were messages from MSM saying take the vax to avoid transmission, again complete ** and was called out by many people. Now we see many corporations including Google remove covid vax as a requirement to enter or work as it is known that getting vaxxed has nothing to do with transmission

Debate is allowed by western MSM on every topic including incest. But the way any debate on Pfizer was shut down showed it was all about money

And the same Pfizer funded media went after AZ in the earlier day (as it was a competitor)
 
EVERYone is entitled to an opinion on this debate.

No need to look down on others if they don't agree with you.
 
Trump did make the odd gaff but overall he pointed to other medicines, which we now know work well. There was never a need for any vaccine, it was created for profit, which has also been proven.

The liberal media mocked Ivermectin as a horse medicine, yet it was used by humans for decades and was used for covid in Japan, India etc.
 
Polio vaccines and all other vaccines we are used to from childhood are a different animal compared to the covid vaccines particularly the mrna ones

The way Pfizer and co. were pushed by the media was weird. Reports of people having reactions after AZ and then Pfizer were blocked on social media in the initial days as fake news. Later it transpired that indeed many people had adverse including fatal reactions to the Mrna vaccines

There are many countries where a minor % of the population received covid vaccines. People there are hardly dying of covid at a higher rate than countries with high % of vaccination.
Almost half of America is unvaccinated, are people who are unvaccinated catching covid at a higher rate than those who took it?

Also the messaging has been alarmist and hyperbolic

In the initial days the message pushed was get vaxxed to avoid catching covid, later found out as compeletely untrue

Then there were messages from MSM saying take the vax to avoid transmission, again complete ** and was called out by many people. Now we see many corporations including Google remove covid vax as a requirement to enter or work as it is known that getting vaxxed has nothing to do with transmission

Debate is allowed by western MSM on every topic including incest. But the way any debate on Pfizer was shut down showed it was all about money

And the same Pfizer funded media went after AZ in the earlier day (as it was a competitor)

I believe that COVID was politicized so much it ended up red hot ridiculous mess. It was an unprecedented situation, human beings had not come across before and it up-ended the entire planet.

I remember when it hit the USA and people starting falling like flies, nobody wanted to believe it here or in other countries and they all became suspicious that USA was upto something big and nasty. This set the tone for whatever was to follow, the vaccines, the lockdowns, the mask mandates, etc. There has been this theme of distrust, subterfuge, etc throughout the whole thing. Then those who politicize it, politicized it and those who fall for it hook line and sinker, fell for it hook line and sinker.


All you had to do was use some common sense and look deeper:

1. The pandemic did happen, it was real and not some false propaganda spread by the west (we know this now)

2. So far it has NOT been proven it is caused by a man-made virus. What we have is conjecture at best.

3. BUT.... in continuation of #2, if it was indeed a lab leak or a man-made virus, it came from China, so there is no reason to doubt that the vaccine makers in the west created the virus for profit. Therefore, there is no need to suspect any ulterior motives here of vaccine makers, other than perhaps they choose to make profits off it like any other business.

4. ALSO.... if it IS indeed man-made, there is without doubt more of a need to protect yourself with a vaccine because your natural immunity wont protect you against it that well. Because a lab manufactured genetically engineered virus will be designed to bypass your standard immunity systems.

5. The messaging around vaccines and masks was totally garbled by the experts and that created a massive distrust of the authorities. I find it highly doubtful there were any malicious motives behind it. The medical and scientific community faced an unprecedented situation and their conclusions and recommendations were driven by the data provided which changed continuously. So they were left fumbling and struggling while justifying their previous stance if it was proven incorrect by the new stats. This created an air of suspicion and the political factions around the world used them to launch attacks against the ruling parties/sitting governments. IN some cases, it worked in reverse where the sitting government attacked the scientific and medical community (as in the case of the USA), BECAUSE they did not want the alarming messages being sent out scaring the people into complete and total lockdowns (because that would hurt the economy, and it actually did hurt the economy)

I believe the idea of lockdowns was to flatten the curve and in absence of the vaccine, it was needed. However, the lockdowns needed to go away after the vaccine was available. But the conspiracy theorizing sections of the world had a rollicking time through this whole thing. They started rattling out conspiracy theories one after another about how the vaccine does everything from killing you to altering your DNA to inserting a microchip in your bodies to ..... whatever. Unfortunately, no science is asbolute, and like any drug, it has side effects. Some of those ended in fatalities but the percentage of those fatalities is much much much smaller than the mortality rate of COVID, so if you just play the odds, taking the vaccine was the only viable option.

Refusing to take the vaccine is like refusing to drive a car because it has the potential to be in a traffic accident that can result in death. The mRNA nature of the vaccine has also created distrust, but if you truly want to believe the medical and scientific researc around hte world has an agenda and they are just out to get you, then unfortunately, I really cannot say anything in their defense. It is just an outright over reaction and height of suspicion. We rely on them for everything else such as basic vaccines and drugs for us and our children, minor and major surgeries use drugs from big Pharma all the time, we use painkillers, antacids, etc on a regular basis so it made no sense when people start suspecting the same people of some nefarious motives through the covid vaccine.

Anyhow, like others, this is just my opinion and view. Take it with a grain of salt, but I hope I shed some light on the reasons why people developed all the suspicions and why much of those suspicions have no grounding in reality.
 
and nobody would be talking about its side effects

The WHO is finalising a 'pandemic treaty' with the governments of the world. WHO wont take control but after this, its suggestions will be followed by most who sign up for this. I think May is the date for finalisation.

'Disease X' has never been known or said of in history. They are trying to create vaccines who a virus/disease which they are not aware of. On top of this, the vaccines in the UK, although in a separate area are being created within/next to the UK's biological weapons site.
 
So the CIA felt it was worth killing innocent people (not the first time) instead of agreeing with Trump.

Trump vindicated too!

The masters of Liberalism afraid of Trump. :)))

Trump 2024!
Trump 2024 indeed!

Mid-40s here. Didn't take the vaccine. Nor practiced social distancing. Nor masks. Nothing happened.

Feel really sorry for the ones who lost jobs maintaining their dignified stance.

But I do make it a point to look down on the ones who voluntarily vaccinated. Like sheep to the slaughterhouse.
 
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