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World Cricketers' Association calls for a more equitable revenue distribution and a revamp of the ICC's governance model

HitWicket said:
They were very vocal critics of those changes. Notably the majority of the changes made at the time were reversed in some way (either fully or partially) a short while later.
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what major changes were introduced in 2023?
 
HitWicket said:
I can't find any public comments from the time, given their report I think it's safe to assume they didn't agree with it.
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and couldn't do f'all to stop it

guessing their say in the votes thro' their positions on sub-committees of the CEC was as useful as used toilet paper

BTW, glad you woke up and joined the thread.
 
HitWicket said:
They were very vocal critics of those changes. Notably the majority of the changes made at the time were reversed in some way (either fully or partially) a short while later.
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I'm guess it was all WCA/FICA and nothing to do with Shashank Manohar and Indian supreme court handicapping the BCCI
 
Sanjog Gupta, part of the panel who put together this report, has just been appointed ICC CEO.
 
These Cricketers Associations are a waste of time. They don't get anywhere. I remember the one headed by Tim May. He tried for years but could not get anywhere or accomplish much. Not sure if that organization is still active.
 
Was WCA able to do anything for BCB in the WC issue? or simply a lame moral support like PCB?
 
Dissolve ICC. Launch a new cricketing governing body. Exclude India or limit their influence. :inti
 
sweep_shot said:
Dissolve ICC. Launch a new cricketing governing body. Exclude India or limit their influence. :inti
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Hitman said:
Yea, because PCB and BCB are unhappy with ICC. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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No point in dissolving the ICC. The one that replaces it will do the same.

The goal should be to have a strong governing body. Where there is less chances for one board's influence. As with everything in the real world, $$$$$ is the main sticking point. $$$$$ is what runs things. That needs to be addressed.

One of the ways to do that would be to reverse the current revenue model. Sort of a subscription model. Where the member boards contribute equally to the ICC for it's annual budget.

Not sure that will work though. Given that the ICC and the boards have tasted the current model and seem to like it very much. Likely there will be no push back. The PCB and BCB seem to attempt at a change. But they do not have much traction or support from the rest. Things will continue as is.
 
rpant_gabba said:
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Any updates on this?
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I am going to take a wild guess and say, nothing has changed!

Everyone from the ICC on down have savored BCCI $$. No way any of them want anything to change.

Sure the PCB and BCB have now forged a new path. This could be considered a change. Let's wait and see where this leads to.
 
U$ofA said:
I am going to take a wild guess and say, nothing has changed!

Everyone from the ICC on down have savored BCCI $$. No way any of them want anything to change.

Sure the PCB and BCB have now forged a new path. This could be considered a change. Let's wait and see where this leads to.
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But, but... they have the CEO in their pocket... they are in key committees... blah blah blah

@HitWicket tell him bro.
 
BCCI have already arranged fixtures against Afghanistan (June 2026), Ireland (June 2026), England (July 2026), Sri Lanka (August 2026), Zimbabwe (September 2026), Afghanistan (September 2026), West Indies (October 2026), New Zealand (November 2026), Sri Lanka (December 2026) & Australia (Jan-Feb 2027).

There is a remote chance of India playing Pakistan in Asian Games in Japan in September 2026.

After keeping all the teams & their cricket boards happy, BCCI will keep its 40% share as they generate 80-85% of the total ICC revenue.
 
U$ofA said:
I am going to take a wild guess and say, nothing has changed!

Everyone from the ICC on down have savored BCCI $$. No way any of them want anything to change.

Sure the PCB and BCB have now forged a new path. This could be considered a change. Let's wait and see where this leads to.
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Bangladesh are going to leave this camp soon and get back to BCCICC camp or be neutral. This will be a betrayal to the brotherly mulq of Pakistani
 
The only way things will change is if Pakistan cricket becomes economically strong enough to force the changes needed through. They need to be a net contributor to ICC and not a board which relies on ICC funding to function.
 
rpant_gabba said:
But, but... they have the CEO in their pocket... they are in key committees... blah blah blah

@HitWicket tell him bro.
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Putting aside the bit where you seem to have decided to put words in my mouth again, the fact you seem happy the BCCI have been shutting down any ideas that favour world cricket because it would benefit other nations and practically leave them unaffected says it all. You're not interested in global cricket, you're just another overly nationalistic zealot.
 
HitWicket said:
Putting aside the bit where you seem to have decided to put words in my mouth again, the fact you seem happy the BCCI have been shutting down any ideas that favour world cricket because it would benefit other nations and practically leave them unaffected says it all. You're not interested in global cricket, you're just another overly nationalistic zealot.
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Prove that communist way of working in cricket will actually improve world cricket. In the past, when unearned money has been thrown at boards, it's only resulted in corruption and players not being treated fairly. None of those cricket teams improved.

If we only distribute the money equally and ignore the supply and demand, earth will become like heaven - is a very childish thinking not rooted in reality.

That's not how money and finances have worked ever in any field.
 
U$ofA said:
Sure the PCB and BCB have now forged a new path. This could be considered a change. Let's wait and see where this leads to.
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That was only under the previous government. The new government is trying to fix things with india and considering the global climate, they really do need India.
 
Sachin fan said:
Prove that communist way of working in cricket will actually improve world cricket. In the past, when unearned money has been thrown at boards, it's only resulted in corruption and players not being treated fairly. None of those cricket teams improved.

If we only distribute the money equally and ignore the supply and demand, earth will become like heaven - is a very childish thinking not rooted in reality.

That's not how money and finances have worked ever in any field.
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Right! Money must be earned. Obviously a support is needed too and one can argue about it how much support each board needs. But to divide money equally is childish.
 
Current cricketing status quo is very discriminatory.

We need to go back to pre-BCCICC days or have something new. Current system is stupid. :inti
 
Sachin fan said:
Prove that communist way of working in cricket will actually improve world cricket. In the past, when unearned money has been thrown at boards, it's only resulted in corruption and players not being treated fairly. None of those cricket teams improved.

If we only distribute the money equally and ignore the supply and demand, earth will become like heaven - is a very childish thinking not rooted in reality.

That's not how money and finances have worked ever in any field.
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The WCA proposals never involved money being distributed equally.
 
sweep_shot said:
Current cricketing status quo is very discriminatory.

We need to go back to pre-BCCICC days or have something new. Current system is stupid.
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Current status quo only benefits India.

Cricket is meant to be a global sport and not about one particular country. :inti
 
Other countries need to protect their distribution rights more. Even for bilaterals for that matter.

A sizable chunk of Pakistani population watches Pakistani cricket using Indian dishes(especially spread across major cities and border areas). Another sizable chunk using illegal streams. This figure hits high when PCB wants to sell their bilateral tournament rights. How would they get fair market value when a huge chunk watches through illegal methods. Even if 2m to 3m use indian dish TV, the blowback is huge in terms of how PCB monetizes their tv rights

Fix those first and you'll see the Pakistani TV rights increase in value and then have a bigger space in the bargaining table because Pakistan does really generate that revenue.
 
Sachin fan said:
Prove that communist way of working in cricket will actually improve world cricket. In the past, when unearned money has been thrown at boards, it's only resulted in corruption and players not being treated fairly. None of those cricket teams improved.

If we only distribute the money equally and ignore the supply and demand, earth will become like heaven - is a very childish thinking not rooted in reality.

That's not how money and finances have worked ever in any field.
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Pakistan is earning more than what they were earning 20 years back. If they really want to earn more , monetize the Pakistan market fully , get better at cricket and be a net contributor to the icc instead of having to rely on icc revenue.

Pretty sure none of the major boards will have a problem when they find that pcb is pulling it's weight and their tv audience is generating money.
 
Sachin fan said:
Ok, replace the world equally in my post, with the word more. The point still stands
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How exactly do you expect associates to develop things to improve their own revenue sources on $150k of funding a month (just about enough to give a full squad of players a reasonable livable wage in many countries) and no structure in place to actually give them the regular fixtures that will allow them to develop better revenue streams themselves.
 
Sachin fan said:
Prove that communist way of working in cricket will actually improve world cricket. In the past, when unearned money has been thrown at boards, it's only resulted in corruption and players not being treated fairly. None of those cricket teams improved.

If we only distribute the money equally and ignore the supply and demand, earth will become like heaven - is a very childish thinking not rooted in reality.

That's not how money and finances have worked ever in any field.
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Spot on. Free money never works out well. In any situation. When you don't earn your money, you never realize the value of it.

Sure there are boards that need monetary help. And they should get it. But there should be an end game to it. No $$$ given perpetually. I would say 5-7 years max. That too with stringent monitoring and result oriented.

I would not include the perennially corrupt and incompetent boards CWI, SLC, Zim. In the above list. I think they have been given enough $$$ and time to right their course.

Few of the assosiates can be given the opportunity and see where there get to.
 
HitWicket said:
How exactly do you expect associates to develop things to improve their own revenue sources on $150k of funding a month (just about enough to give a full squad of players a reasonable livable wage in many countries) and no structure in place to actually give them the regular fixtures that will allow them to develop better revenue streams themselves.
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I agree, to a certain extent. They should be supported. But with a preset end date/game. No $$ in perpetuity. And with strict oversight. The boards must be transparent. Set a timline and pre-requisite to produce results. There must be consquences and responsibilities.
 
HitWicket said:
How exactly do you expect associates to develop things to improve their own revenue sources on $150k of funding a month (just about enough to give a full squad of players a reasonable livable wage in many countries) and no structure in place to actually give them the regular fixtures that will allow them to develop better revenue streams themselves.
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Same way India developed without any external funding
 
Given that there is possibility of WCA goals with BCCI involved,

Will WCA push for a international cricket organization w/o BCCi?
 
A possible model could be where the 500+ professional cricketers work together, redistributing their income and do a collaborative negotiation with ICC where they all get a standard minimum salary while the likes of Cummins thro in their full cricketing income in to the pot, including endorsement revenue

Bit like how the cast of Friends worked together


If not, it’s just lip service
 
rpant_gabba said:
Same way India developed without any external funding
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You're kidding right? The BCCI were happy taking an equal handout to other boards for years whilst contributing very little to that revenue. Suddenly their contribution to that revenue increases and they decide their handout should increase and other boards shouldn't be given the same opportunity.
 
HitWicket said:
You're kidding right? The BCCI were happy taking an equal handout to other boards for years whilst contributing very little to that revenue.
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Really? when exactly was india taking handouts while contributing very little? bring the source.

the 1st. WC outside England happened becos India was willing to increase the prize money to new levels which Prudential was not willing to

Bring your source.
 

When India hosted the Reliance World Cup in 1987 for the first time away from England, the total prize money stood at $160,000 with the winners receiving approximately $53,000 and the runners-up $21,000. Today, a group stage win earns teams almost the same money as the World Cup winners of the past.
West Indies, who won the first World Cup in 1975, received $9,000 while the runners-up $4,500 and the semifinalists $2,250 each. The prize money more than doubled in the next edition in 1979 when West Indies won for the second time, defeating hosts England by 92 runs. That effort got them $21,000 while England were content with $8,500.
When India stopped West Indies from winning their third straight title, the Kapil Devils were awarded $31,000. Though the winners’ prize money doubled again to £20,000 in 1983, the weak pound translated to a lesser amount then.
 
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rpant_gabba said:

When India hosted the Reliance World Cup in 1987 for the first time away from England, the total prize money stood at $160,000 with the winners receiving approximately $53,000 and the runners-up $21,000. Today, a group stage win earns teams almost the same money as the World Cup winners of the past.
West Indies, who won the first World Cup in 1975, received $9,000 while the runners-up $4,500 and the semifinalists $2,250 each. The prize money more than doubled in the next edition in 1979 when West Indies won for the second time, defeating hosts England by 92 runs. That effort got them $21,000 while England were content with $8,500.
When India stopped West Indies from winning their third straight title, the Kapil Devils were awarded $31,000. Though the winners’ prize money doubled again to £20,000 in 1983, the weak pound translated to a lesser amount then.
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Not sure why you're going on about prize money in a conversation about excess revenue distribution. From that very first world cup until 2014 the excess revenue was distributed equally between participating teams/later ICC full members with the exception of a small fee to cover hosting costs. India benefited from this equal handout even at times when they weren't the largest revenue generator.
 
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ICC Revenue Distribution & Media Contribution (2024–2027 Cycle)

Overview:
The current 4-year ICC commercial cycle is valued at approximately $3.2 Billion

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| Cricket Board  | Est. Revenue Contrib.    | Annual Payout   | 4-Year Total TCV  |
+----------------+--------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+
| BCCI (India)   | 90% (~$2.7 - $3.0B)      | $231.00 Million | $924.00 Million   |
| ECB (England)  | 3-5% (~$100 - $150M)     | $41.33 Million  | $165.32 Million   |
| CA (Australia) | 2-4% (~$60 - $120M)      | $37.53 Million  | $150.12 Million   |
| PCB (Pakistan) | 1-2% (~$30 - $60M)       | $34.51 Million  | $138.04 Million   |
| Others (Pool)  | <1% Each                 | $16M - $28M     | $64M - $112M      |
+----------------+--------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+
 
BCCI is already subsidizing world cricket to a factor of USD 1.8b which is more than generous. And people keep demanding equal sharing. BCCI needs to develop the sport in their country as well. The talent pool is bigger (sheer population size) and hence the costs will be more.
 
HitWicket said:
Not sure why you're going on about prize money in a conversation about excess revenue distribution. From that very first world cup until 2014 the excess revenue was distributed equally between participating teams/later ICC full members with the exception of a small fee to cover hosting costs. India benefited from this equal handout even at times when they weren't the largest revenue generator.
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Equal revenue means indian cricketers will be affected. India has much more population playing cricket and needs to invest that much more amount into their grassroots program because of the sheer size of the Indian population.

I don't mind bcci contributing solely for the associate nations.

But all the other countries recieve money in excess of their tv rights.

If those countries are really serious, let them contribute to the same extent that India is subsidizing right now.
 
Pakistan has a population which is roughly 18% of India's population , you would expect that their tv rights would be 58m - 60m for their territory. Instead their tv rights are 30m. If PCB was serious about world cricket's health , they would ensure that they maximize their tv rights to the ICC and not be in a position where they have to rely on ICC funding.

But it seems it's easier to sit back and just take the ICC's revenue share.
 
sithb said:
Equal revenue means indian cricketers will be affected. India has much more population playing cricket and needs to invest that much more amount into their grassroots program because of the sheer size of the Indian population.

I don't mind bcci contributing solely for the associate nations.

But all the other countries recieve money in excess of their tv rights.

If those countries are really serious, let them contribute to the same extent that India is subsidizing right now.
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Spot on.

There are the perenially corrupt and incompetent boards like WI, SL, BD who keep taking and taking and get nowhwere. Then there are the somewhat stable boards like SA, NZ and PCB that also keep taking.

The sadest part is even the ECB and CA are takers from that pool.

How much more do all these boards want take and for how long?
 
U$ofA said:
The sadest part is even the ECB and CA are takers from that pool.
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Not too much. England might just about be getting the icc share slightly less than their equivalent rights.

I'm not certain on the Aussie tv rights deal , the numbers being quoted are different in different articles. But they just might be net positive as well (just slightly)
 
There is a difference between equal and equitable... Don't get triggered if you dont know the difference...
 
The answer is simple.

The international players association should not allow any international to play in IPL, unless BCCI agrees to share 25% revenue with all full members.

You cannot have a situation where India is making billions of dollars from international cricketers without compensating other nations for their contribution to cricket's growht there.
 
sithb said:
ICC Revenue Distribution & Media Contribution (2024–2027 Cycle)

Overview:
The current 4-year ICC commercial cycle is valued at approximately $3.2 Billion

Code: 
+----------------+--------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+
| Cricket Board  | Est. Revenue Contrib.    | Annual Payout   | 4-Year Total TCV  |
+----------------+--------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+
| BCCI (India)   | 90% (~$2.7 - $3.0B)      | $231.00 Million | $924.00 Million   |
| ECB (England)  | 3-5% (~$100 - $150M)     | $41.33 Million  | $165.32 Million   |
| CA (Australia) | 2-4% (~$60 - $120M)      | $37.53 Million  | $150.12 Million   |
| PCB (Pakistan) | 1-2% (~$30 - $60M)       | $34.51 Million  | $138.04 Million   |
| Others (Pool)  | <1% Each                 | $16M - $28M     | $64M - $112M      |
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If you look at this, PCB is the one getting ~2-3X more than what they contribute to.
Free-riding other markets which are more disciplined and successful.

The current pay-out scenario is not merit based to be honest. It doesn't reward boards which does well to maintain their finances and monetize their own markets.

They can work out a formula based on % of how much they contribute to + how much the board essentially meeds to sustain. In this way, associates can get more money to sustain and improve while Boards like Pakistan which can sustain but doesn't improve can work on get things straight or else be penalized.
 
Bhaijaan said:
The international players association should not allow any international to play in IPL, unless BCCI agrees to share 25% revenue with all full members.
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Bcci pays every board for every player they take from them.

Doing what you suggest amounts to extortion. And would be counterproductive to the players themselves. The players at that time can simply announce their retirement from international cricket and then jump fully in to the IPL circuit.
 
A better opportunity would be to ask BCCI to let indian players decide on whether they want to play foreign T20 leagues. Not all of them. But enough to get better valuation based on tv rights for the other domestic T20 leagues. And most of those leagues have IPL owners as it is. Even 5-6 indian players would probably help get increased media rights.
 
sithb said:
Bcci pays every board for every player they take from them.

Doing what you suggest amounts to extortion. And would be counterproductive to the players themselves. The players at that time can simply announce their retirement from international cricket and then jump fully in to the IPL circuit.
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Its not extortion but demanding their fair share from the revenue pool.

Lets be realistic. The players and the boards agreed to certain values but now IPL is taking billions of dollars in valuations. About time they be graciously passed on to the rest of the cricketing world.
 
Theanonymousone said:
They can work out a formula based on % of how much they contribute to + how much the board essentially meeds to sustain. In this way, associates can get more money to sustain and improve while Boards like Pakistan which can sustain but doesn't improve can work on get things straight or else be penalized.
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Cricket is a dying sport with interest basically only in the subcontinent. All other countries have other major sports.

It's surviving because the revenue rights from India is enabling ICC to subsidize other boards (to various extents). The only real improvement can happen if the other subcontinent countries buck up their game and become self sufficient. Get enough revenue from bilaterals / triangulars etc so that their dependency on icc revenue decreases. Get the television rights for bilaterals etc sorted on fair market value. Ask for more percentage of revenue when bilaterals do happen with India.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Lets be realistic. The players and the boards agreed to certain values but now IPL is taking billions of dollars in valuations. About time they be graciously passed on to the rest of the cricketing world.
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BCCI can easily say that it's subsidizing to the order of 1.8b usd already (over the rights cycle). That argument won't hold good.
 
What's stopping Pakistani broadcasters from offering icc 300m usd for the rights to broadcast in Pakistan? Even if it's assumed that the market value of Pakistan is 10% that of the market value of India ? That still means that Pakistan should be expecting a 300m revenue rights contribution and not a 30-60m one. This would instantly give Pakistan self sustainability.
 
I'm really alright with the excess contribution by the Indian rights to be used more for the associates rather than the established test playing nations who should have revenue streams of their own. That means that the tv rights contribution for the other subcontinent teams should improve.

As of the moment , I don't see why Bangladesh broadcasters shouldn't be giving a 150m-200m icc bid. The population is a 10th that of India. Likewise with Srilankan TV rights. The tv rights is directly impacting what the payouts from icc are. Get a suitable bid done so that the ICC doesn't need to pay ~ $6 for every $ recieved from Pakistan for example.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Its not extortion but demanding their fair share from the revenue pool.

Lets be realistic. The players and the boards agreed to certain values but now IPL is taking billions of dollars in valuations. About time they be graciously passed on to the rest of the cricketing world.
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What is fair share?

IPL is a free market private league. There is no taxpayer money involved. So all they have to ahere to is the local laws. Outside of that, no one is entitled to even a penny.

Not the ICC, not the boards or the players.

Now, the IPL on its own is paying the boards I believe 10% (i may worng on the %) of each players contract. That is for the time, effort and $$$ spent on those players to bring them through their local cricketing system. That is generous, magnanimous and a wonderfull gesture on the part of IPL.

I am sure any other demand made to the IPL will fall flat. Just because someone is making $$$$$, does entitle others to a piece of that.
 
U$ofA said:
What is fair share?

IPL is a free market private league. There is no taxpayer money involved. So all they have to ahere to is the local laws. Outside of that, no one is entitled to even a penny.

Not the ICC, not the boards or the players.

Now, the IPL on its own is paying the boards I believe 10% (i may worng on the %) of each players contract. That is for the time, effort and $$$ spent on those players to bring them through their local cricketing system. That is generous, magnanimous and a wonderfull gesture on the part of IPL.

I am sure any other demand made to the IPL will fall flat. Just because someone is making $$$$$, does entitle others to a piece of that.
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It's 20% of their auction value.
 
sithb said:
I'm really alright with the excess contribution by the Indian rights to be used more for the associates rather than the established test playing nations who should have revenue streams of their own. That means that the tv rights contribution for the other subcontinent teams should improve.

As of the moment , I don't see why Bangladesh broadcasters shouldn't be giving a 150m-200m icc bid. The population is a 10th that of India. Likewise with Srilankan TV rights. The tv rights is directly impacting what the payouts from icc are. Get a suitable bid done so that the ICC doesn't need to pay ~ $6 for every $ recieved from Pakistan for example.
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Agree 100%. Why should the fully established boards get anything. They have been around a long time. Engough time has passed for them to be fully self sufficient. They all be generating their own revenues to not just sustain, but thrive.

Associates should be supported. Not WI, SL, BD, Zim. Or even SA, NZ, PCB. Do not even bring up ECB and CA!
 
U$ofA said:
What is fair share?

IPL is a free market private league. There is no taxpayer money involved. So all they have to ahere to is the local laws. Outside of that, no one is entitled to even a penny.

Not the ICC, not the boards or the players.

Now, the IPL on its own is paying the boards I believe 10% (i may worng on the %) of each players contract. That is for the time, effort and $$$ spent on those players to bring them through their local cricketing system. That is generous, magnanimous and a wonderfull gesture on the part of IPL.

I am sure any other demand made to the IPL will fall flat. Just because someone is making $$$$$, does entitle others to a piece of that.
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IPL wouldn't be havig such valuations if not for international players.

We are simply asking for our fair share. Or we can pull the plug on IPL and make another league richer instead.
 
U$ofA said:
Agree 100%. Why should the fully established boards get anything. They have been around a long time. Engough time has passed for them to be fully self sufficient. They all be generating their own revenues to not just sustain, but thrive.

Associates should be supported. Not WI, SL, BD, Zim. Or even SA, NZ, PCB. Do not even bring up ECB and CA!
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I can see usecases where countries with less population like NZ , WI , Zim need some added support.

But Pakistan's icc rights for 2023-2027 are 30m. A country with that population should be getting much bigger tv rights to the ICC. It's what 17% of India's population ? They really need to fix their broadcasters.

www.dawn.com

‘PTV acquires ICC media rights for 2025-27 cycle at $13.5m’

LAHORE: Pakistan Television (PTV) has secured the media rights for the International Cricket Council’s (ICC)...
www.dawn.com
 
Bhaijaan said:
IPL wouldn't be havig such valuations if not for international players.

We are simply asking for our fair share. Or we can pull the plug on IPL and make another league richer instead.
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The international players and their boards are compensated. That is all they are entitled to. That is their fair share. As per what contracts that they signed.

Just like the IPL, others are free to start a league and lure players to them. No issues there. Free market/market forces should triumph.
 
Bhaijaan said:
We are simply asking for our fair share. Or we can pull the plug on IPL and make another league richer instead.
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What's fair ? Pakistan isn't contributing anything with respect to tv rights to be demanding anything. Get a proper broadcaster to pick up your ICC rights for 200m or more and then Pakistan cricket board can have some say in how they want cricket to be organised.

Keep getting low contracts like PTV (government owned I think) done and your stuck at the times in the 1980s when indian matches had to be broadcast over DD ( indian govt owned broadcaster) who wouldn't give fair value either.
 
sithb said:
I can see usecases where countries with less population like NZ , WI , Zim need some added support.

But Pakistan's icc rights for 2023-2027 are 30m. A country with that population should be getting much bigger tv rights to the ICC. It's what 17% of India's population ? They really need to fix their broadcasters.

www.dawn.com

‘PTV acquires ICC media rights for 2025-27 cycle at $13.5m’

LAHORE: Pakistan Television (PTV) has secured the media rights for the International Cricket Council’s (ICC)...
www.dawn.com
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Disagree. They have been around long enough to make a determination of what needs to be done to thrive. No $$ should go to them. Especailly WI and Zim, which would be just a money pit.
 
sithb said:
What's fair ? Pakistan isn't contributing anything with respect to tv rights to be demanding anything. Get a proper broadcaster to pick up your ICC rights for 200m or more and then Pakistan cricket board can have some say in how they want cricket to be organised.

Keep getting low contracts like PTV (government owned I think) done and your stuck at the times in the 1980s when indian matches had to be broadcast over DD ( indian govt owned broadcaster) who wouldn't give fair value either.
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It indicates either Pakistan’s consumer market is so poor that Ad revenues are very low or the blatant corruption in bids leading to low revenue monetization.

Pakistan is a cricket obsessed nation at-least going by the interest shown in Pakpassion but somehow their market is not yet monetized properly.

There is a huge difference in percapita income of India vs Pakistan but that doenst justify the vast difference.

PSL, their marquee league is what 4-5% of IPL?? I think its got to do with PCB management. Complacency, incompetence and Corruption - all of these combined in their administration.

They do have interesting players to be honest when they breakout on international scenario but grossly mismanaged. Same with commercialization of its sport.
 
This is like contributing 30m , getting 134m as payout and still saying it's unfair when the Indian rights are for 3 billion , the bcci get 0.92 billion back only.

Instead Contribute 200m through a broadcaser , negotiate for 300m icc payout and then the board can be sustainable.
 
And the players will retire from internationals if the boards attempt to stop them from playing IPL or any T20 leagues for that matter.
 
U$ofA said:
Disagree. They have been around long enough to make a determination of what needs to be done to thrive. No $$ should go to them. Especailly WI and Zim, which would be just a money pit.
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Money should go into more European nations like Netherlands, Ireland etc along with Asian nations like Nepal which showed some good promise.

If the boards itself are corrupt like WI and Zim, no one can help.

I do think BCCI should allow Indian players to play in other leagues. They would help with eyeballs and easily top the bids across BBL and SA20 leagues.

If Virat plays The Hundred, he would easily be one of the highest paid, if not the highest in that league. And him with only playing one format now, its not much of a deal for his workload.
 
U$ofA said:
Disagree. They have been around long enough to make a determination of what needs to be done to thrive. No $$ should go to them. Especailly WI and Zim, which would be just a money pit.
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Too less population in NZ/WI/Zim for the sport to be sustainable without icc revenues backing them up.

The subcontinent countries in the other hand need to buck up their investment in the game , both w.r.t interest in the game , building better players and ensuring much better monetization
 
Bhaijaan said:
The answer is simple.

The international players association should not allow any international to play in IPL, unless BCCI agrees to share 25% revenue with all full members.

You cannot have a situation where India is making billions of dollars from international cricketers without compensating other nations for their contribution to cricket's growht there.
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Got it! So the international PLAYERS association should stop working for the benefit of the players (who are making millions through the IPL) and begin working for the individual boards. Brilliant!
 
BouncerGuy said:
There is a difference between equal and equitable... Don't get triggered if you dont know the difference...
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You have still not shown how giving handouts helps boards and develops cricket in those counties.

In the last it had the opposite effect with corrupt boards.
 
Theanonymousone said:
Money should go into more European nations like Netherlands, Ireland etc along with Asian nations like Nepal which showed some good promise.

If the boards itself are corrupt like WI and Zim, no one can help.

I do think BCCI should allow Indian players to play in other leagues. They would help with eyeballs and easily top the bids across BBL and SA20 leagues.

If Virat plays The Hundred, he would easily be one of the highest paid, if not the highest in that league. And him with only playing one format now, its not much of a deal for his workload.
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Virat gets more from instagram posts than the hundred could afford to pay him. He wouldn't want to go that route
 
Theanonymousone said:
It indicates either Pakistan’s consumer market is so poor that Ad revenues are very low or the blatant corruption in bids leading to low revenue monetization.

Pakistan is a cricket obsessed nation at-least going by the interest shown in Pakpassion but somehow their market is not yet monetized properly.
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Can be a combination of all factors. BCCI shifted to private broadcasters in the 90s itself. PCB is still giving the government broadcasters the bids.
 
Sachin fan said:
Virat gets more from instagram posts than the hundred could afford to pay him. He wouldn't want to go that route
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It's not just for money. It can be just to have fun. He's anyway settled in London now and semi retired. Playing the hundred shouldn't be too much of a difference for him.
 
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