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Would any other team have stepped-up for Pakistan in the way they have done for Bangladesh?

Honourable thing to do.

Answer is NO. No other team would have done this for Pakistan.

Pakistan has surprised us all today by this honourable stand which might hurt them in the short run.

But in long term, we will all remember this as an act of courage and honour.
 
I’m more interested in the official reason that Pakistan will give to the ICC for boycotting the game.

Assuming that a reason will be asked for; I think it will.

Courage, honour and pride aren’t reasons justifiable in a structured, rules based setting. Neither is ‘support for a brotherly country’.

Popcorn time!
 
Funny thing is at some point an India friendly govt will come in Bangladesh and everything will be back to normal for them.
It has literally been the same thing since the 90s. BNP comes in, Bangladesh become pro-Pak. Awami League comes in, Bangladesh becomes pro-India. On top of that, Bangladesh has little to no value for Pakistan from a strategic POV.
 
Not only will Pakistan starting with a loss but their NRR will also be affected while India's NRR will not.

Clause 16.10.7 states that in the event of a forfeit, "the net run rate of the defaulting team shall be affected in that the full 20 overs of the defaulting team's innings in such forfeited match shall be taken into account in calculating the average runs per over of the defaulting team over the course of the relevant portion of the competition."
 
It has literally been the same thing since the 90s. BNP comes in, Bangladesh become pro-Pak. Awami League comes in, Bangladesh becomes pro-India. On top of that, Bangladesh has little to no value for Pakistan from a strategic POV.

I believe Pakistan-Bangladesh thing has more of a religious angle than a strategic angle.

Religious folks in both countries feel unity due to the shared religion.

Again, it is only important for the religious folks who represent the majority in both countries. Not applicable to liberals/seculars I guess.
 
I believe Pakistan-Bangladesh thing has more of a religious angle than a strategic angle.

Religious folks in both countries feel unity due to the shared religion.

Again, it is only important for the religious folks who represent the majority in both countries. Not applicable to liberals/seculars I guess.
Such a thing does not exist. In the international system states make decisions based on national and strategic interests. In the Middle East numerous Arab states have been openly colluding with Israel as it has conducted a genocide of the Palestinian people. Pakistan is only doing this to stick it to India. But it's no different from Pakistan thinking they had a friendly government in Kabul with the Taliban being in power.
 
Noble intentions but loss of points and potentially a knockout blow even before the start of the tournament.

Would any other team have taken a stand for Pakistan in the same way?
It's not done out of noble intentions but out of prevailing political alignments in last 2-3 years. It's just plain politics. If Pakistan was such a morality first nation, it would not have been sitting on Gaza peace board with Trump.
 
No way ICC letting Pak into the WC after the stunt they pulled. Now since Pak and BD both aren't playing this world cup they should arrange a bilateral and play against each other. Hell, may be invite Myanmar and North Korea and organize a World Cup for pariahs, would be the first of its kind.
 
It was more of Messing up Indias event rather than supporting Bangladesh actually . Cause India has done dirty to Pakistan before so it had to come back somehow for India . Good step
 
Noble intentions but loss of points and potentially a knockout blow even before the start of the tournament.

Would any other team have taken a stand for Pakistan in the same way?
If this is a matter nobal intention then why did the PCB not Boycott the ICC Under-19 team's match against India, which was taking place at the time when the Pakistan government announced this decision?
:kp
 
Such a thing does not exist. In the international system states make decisions based on national and strategic interests. In the Middle East numerous Arab states have been openly colluding with Israel as it has conducted a genocide of the Palestinian people. Pakistan is only doing this to stick it to India. But it's no different from Pakistan thinking they had a friendly government in Kabul with the Taliban being in power.

At people level, concept of ummah exists. People feel the brotherhood.

At state level, it may not exist because rulers are corrupt.

Anyway, this is important to religious Muslims only. If you are not religious, you may not understand it fully.
 
It was more of Messing up Indias event rather than supporting Bangladesh actually . Cause India has done dirty to Pakistan before so it had to come back somehow for India . Good step

Yes. I believe this is the case.

I doubt Pakistan would boycott just for Bangladesh. I believe recent Balochistan attack has something to do with it.
 
Nope. India & Pakistan isn't a cricket rivalry right now. It's a political dushmani.
Right, very hostile env for cricket. India set a bad precedent by not shaking hands. Should have had just avoided Faheem Ashraf and shaken hands with others. Good PCB found the spine that BCCI didn't have in Asia Cup. There will be consequences of courses but this fixture of India and Pak has become too much common and boring.
 
It was more of Messing up Indias event rather than supporting Bangladesh actually . Cause India has done dirty to Pakistan before so it had to come back somehow for India . Good step
This would be backfire for Pakistan, just like they banned Pakistani players from participating in the IPL in 2009.

Pakistan's only leverage in the ICC was limited to the India vs Pakistan match, but after this decision, if they had any influence, it has also ended.

Jay Shah is ICC chairman for 6 year. Just saying

:klopp :kp
 
It is because Muslim rulers are corrupt and selfish.

Common people cannot make decisions. They are not in charge.

People protested for Gaza. People donated for Gaza. People even attempted to reach Gaza.
Which comes back to my point that average people have no real decision-making power when it comes to major decisions affecting the future of their state.
 
This would be backfire for Pakistan, just like they banned Pakistani players from participating in the IPL in 2009.

Pakistan's only leverage in the ICC was limited to the India vs Pakistan match, but after this decision, if they had any influence, it has also ended.

Jay Shah is ICC chairman for 6 year. Just saying

:klopp :kp
Let it be . Let cricket end in Pakistan . It’s better than playing under unfair organization. What’s the point to play this game when you have certain board who will bully other nations and get things to work on their own favour. Always creates an unfavorable environment somehow or other .
 
Let it be . Let cricket end in Pakistan . It’s better than playing under unfair organization. What’s the point to play this game when you have certain board who will bully other nations and get things to work on their own favour. Always creates an unfavorable environment somehow or other .
Ok than leave the ICC forever, problem solved. Case closed. :klopp :kp
 
Who cares what other teams have done?

Does the actions of others define our stance?

Indians couldn't even stand up and boycott for their own public, you think we need lessons from others on what to do and how?
Isn't this is case here ? :klopp :kp
 
PCB has risked their solvency, a financial blitzrek by the ICC, BCCI for Bangladesh

I am not entirely sure this was for BD. :inti

I believe there was a recent terror attack in Balochistan. That probably played a factor.

Seems like Pakistan is trying to sabotage India/BCCICC by boycotting the money making game.

Pakistan can still go to Super Eight despite the boycott. 3 minnows in the group.
 
PCB has risked their solvency, a financial blitzrek by the ICC, BCCI for Bangladesh
In other words, slit wrist for an ex jo 50 saal pehle muh pe thuk ke bhag gyi thi.

Seriously guys this is Kamikazi by PCB, we all know they aren't exactly the brightest out there but this is a horrendous decision even by their standards, could potentially end Pak cricket.
 
Very dumb move by PCB. I already mentioned it would be very dumb to boycott match against India . Pakistan has basically done the dirty work for India. There was so much pressure on India to not play matches against Pakistan. India was the one not shaking hands and all pressure was on them. Pak was playing in SL as well. Foolish PCB done the India a favor and also lose points. During Asia cup i mentioned PCB would be better suited to make decisions using chatgpt lol and it's true again.
 
Honourable thing to do.

Answer is NO. No other team would have done this for Pakistan.

Pakistan has surprised us all today by this honourable stand which might hurt them in the short run.

But in long term, we will all remember this as an act of courage and honour.

Honour would have been facing the Enemy state in a game of sport and battling hard irrespective of win or loss .

Russia America , European countries have played each other in Olympics , Football World cups , swim events etc irrespective of the kind of hatred versus them .

Clearly , it's a question of opinions
 
In other words, slit wrist for an ex jo 50 saal pehle muh pe thuk ke bhag gyi thi.

Seriously guys this is Kamikazi by PCB, we all know they aren't exactly the brightest out there but this is a horrendous decision even by their standards, could potentially end Pak cricket.

End to nahi ... They r playing the cup , so sanctions won't be hard.

But yes India Pak brings a lot of money and trp , legally and illegally. Jay shah will definitely whip u know what of Pcb monetarily atleast to recover some of that .

Today ur u19 team committed hara kiri after a great start . And we took revenge of the previous loss.
 
Right, very hostile env for cricket. India set a bad precedent by not shaking hands. Should have had just avoided Faheem Ashraf and shaken hands with others. Good PCB found the spine that BCCI didn't have in Asia Cup. There will be consequences of courses but this fixture of India and Pak has become too much common and boring.

That's coz one team is Very mighty , and the other doesn't even try , while also umpiring has become much accurate thanks to DRS . So everyone knows who will whip whom ...
 
That's coz one team is Very mighty , and the other doesn't even try , while also umpiring has become much accurate thanks to DRS . So everyone knows who will whip whom ...
Yeah but BCCI should have boycotted Asia Cup as most fans wanted to boycott. If we decided to play, then play in spirit and shake hands with players.
 
I’m more interested in the official reason that Pakistan will give to the ICC for boycotting the game.

Assuming that a reason will be asked for; I think it will.

Courage, honour and pride aren’t reasons justifiable in a structured, rules based setting. Neither is ‘support for a brotherly country’.

Popcorn time!

India is a certified state sponsor of terrorism in Pakistan and that’s more than an adequate reason to shun them.

No other reason required.
 
Any sane person would realize that this has very little to do with Bangladesh and more to do damage to India's image as a host. Which Indians don't seem to realize and lol'ing away and Pak took advantage of this BD issue and piggy backed their way of doing this. In the future, Pak will surely suffer but doing it this early is quite stupid too.

Should have played their matches and made sure they qualified before pulling this stunt.
 
Not only will Pakistan starting with a loss but their NRR will also be affected while India's NRR will not.

Clause 16.10.7 states that in the event of a forfeit, "the net run rate of the defaulting team shall be affected in that the full 20 overs of the defaulting team's innings in such forfeited match shall be taken into account in calculating the average runs per over of the defaulting team over the course of the relevant portion of the competition."
Run rate didn't matter...... Pakistan spin attack will eat Namibia, netherland and USA alive.........its not 2024
 
Very dumb move by PCB. I already mentioned it would be very dumb to boycott match against India . Pakistan has basically done the dirty work for India. There was so much pressure on India to not play matches against Pakistan. India was the one not shaking hands and all pressure was on them. Pak was playing in SL as well. Foolish PCB done the India a favor and also lose points. During Asia cup i mentioned PCB would be better suited to make decisions using chatgpt lol and it's true again.
Bore off. India couldn't win a rigged WC in India 2023. Take your lost points where the sun don't shine.
 
End to nahi ... They r playing the cup , so sanctions won't be hard.

But yes India Pak brings a lot of money and trp , legally and illegally. Jay shah will definitely whip u know what of Pcb monetarily atleast to recover some of that .

Today ur u19 team committed hara kiri after a great start . And we took revenge of the previous loss.
The cult are coming out the wood works on Suicidal Sunday.

Identify them, expose them, and nail the the cult to the crucifix.
 
Noble intentions but loss of points and potentially a knockout blow even before the start of the tournament.

Would any other team have taken a stand for Pakistan in the same way?
Nope, nobody would have done this for Pakistan. Yet again this is another case in point where we are getting influenced to bear the brunt (or lead the charge or some other cliche phrase) of someone else's battle. BD, Afghanistan etc will dance to some fake merry tune of South Asian muslim brotherhood but will promptly stab Pakistan in the back and forget our efforts for them if the situation is reversed or if they stand to gain anything by stabbing us in the back.

If Pakistan wants to take a stance against the despicable BCCI then fine, I do support that. BUT I will never support Pakistan being cast as the moral warriors for other people's battles. Enough of that BS already!
 
Let today be known as Sangahis Suicidal Sunday.

- Modi exposed as a subservient Indian to his peado masters.
- Pakistan Government say no to Saffron terrorists and unites Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Islam in the region in the next breath.
- PCB are Kingmakers of cricket revenue.
- The ICC realises BCCI exists only because of PCB.
- Big 3 is now the Big Mac special.
- Orange is the new Red of humiliation.
- INR at an all time low vs USD while USD weakness is at an all time high.

It's over for India.

Done & Dusted.
 
Give it time.

With exception of England and Australia, a new governing body will be created for cricket. It happened in Golf, Darts, and you better believe Cricket is next.
 
this isnt purely altrusitc, the pcb will always be the step child in indias icc. other smaller boards are welcome so long as they toe the line and accept whatever is given to them, however in terms of any influence anyone outside the big three is just along for the ride.
 
At people level, concept of ummah exists. People feel the brotherhood.

At state level, it may not exist because rulers are corrupt.

Anyway, this is important to religious Muslims only. If you are not religious, you may not understand it fully.
Where was the ummah when the u19 were getting trashed few hours back.
 
I believe Pakistan-Bangladesh thing has more of a religious angle than a strategic angle.

Religious folks in both countries feel unity due to the shared religion.

Again, it is only important for the religious folks who represent the majority in both countries. Not applicable to liberals/seculars I guess.
PCB and BCB are not representatives of ‘Muslim Ummah’. These orgs are run by bigoted frauds. I am not going to stand behind these guys. Please keep politics/ religious identity etc. out of sports.
 
PCB and BCB are not representatives of ‘Muslim Ummah’. These orgs are run by bigoted frauds. I am not going to stand behind these guys. Please keep politics/ religious identity etc. out of sports.

I wasn't referring to PCB and BCB. I was saying in general. :inti

It was a response to another comment. Context was different.
 
Effectively Mustafizur has screwed PCB
Not really. Cricket is secondary now, there is lot of geopolitics things happening, and obviously Pak wouldnt want to sit idle, so they cashed in as well. Besides, the group game against IND is pretty meaningless, as it wouldnt impact Pak/IND much.
 
PCB and BCB are not representatives of ‘Muslim Ummah’. These orgs are run by bigoted frauds. I am not going to stand behind these guys. Please keep politics/ religious identity etc. out of sports.
But BCCI is a representative of Hindutva India with Jay Shah at the helm, right?
 
Only people with lazy thinking are linking this to Bangladesh and Mustafizur.

Unsurprising from Indians..

Surprising from Pakistanis who should know better and have access to uncensored media.
 
Don't let a single Indian/Sanghi disciple tell you not to mix politics/religion with cricket (sport). These tossers were doing exactly that when the readies were flowing.

Now their source of income is under threat, these Saffron sponsors are crying wolf.

Make them an example. This is the duty of humanity.
 
Only people with lazy thinking are linking this to Bangladesh and Mustafizur.

Unsurprising from Indians..

Surprising from Pakistanis who should know better and have access to uncensored media.

This.

This boycott is due to recent Balochistan attack (which killed 31 Pakistani civilians). Baloch terrorists are financed/supported by India.

The boycott has not much to do with Bangladesh I believe. :inti

 
What if one or more of the games get rained out?
What if Netherlands need a win in last game to qualifies for super -8 along with india and india deliberately lost against Netherlands ( which I don't think they) to kickout Pakistan from the World T20 and it will be last game from group A.
#JustSaying

:klopp :kp
 
This.

This boycott is due to recent Balochistan attack (which killed 31 Pakistani civilians). Baloch terrorists are financed/supported by India.

The boycott has not much to do with Bangladesh I believe. :inti


@obaid, I think the boycott has to do with this incident. Major terror attack from India-backed Baloch terrorists.
 
Noble intentions but loss of points and potentially a knockout blow even before the start of the tournament.

Would any other team have taken a stand for Pakistan in the same way?
So what?.It is not the end of the world.It is just a game.
 
Pakistan has often stood alone and not because others don’t know the truth, but because saying it out loud has consequences.
 
Honourable thing to do.

Answer is NO. No other team would have done this for Pakistan.

Pakistan has surprised us all today by this honourable stand which might hurt them in the short run.

But in long term, we will all remember this as an act of courage and honour.

You must be using extremely strong Super Glue to keep the mask in place 😆
 
No, no one will

Bangladesh didn't in the past and neither will Bangladesh do the same in the future!

Nothing to do with Pakistan and it should have been kept that way
 
Pakistan is not doing it for Bangladesh. They want to stick it to India, and to do so they dont want to do it alone.

So when Bangladesh became Indias enemy, Pakistan acted smart and basically applied the enemy of enemy is my friend logic.

Point is to create awareness and pressure of Indias shenanigans. Icc is a mess with India influence and that needs to be fixed.
 
Pakistan is not doing it for Bangladesh. They want to stick it to India, and to do so they dont want to do it alone.

So when Bangladesh became Indias enemy, Pakistan acted smart and basically applied the enemy of enemy is my friend logic.

Point is to create awareness and pressure of Indias shenanigans. Icc is a mess with India influence and that needs to be fixed.

Yup. Exactly.

I don't think any country would sacrifice for another country. It is all about mutual objectives.

As I have mentioned before, I think it has to do with recent India-backed BLA terror attack (which killed 48 Pakistanis).
 
Why should a country get away with having EVERYTHING their own way all of the time in the name of sport? And it's not even like it's hidden but every other cricket playing country just ignores it because of money.

Even down to refusing players of a certain nationality from participating in their league. That is the most horrific display of open racism that no one has the balls to call out.

Someone had to take a stand.

And I'm proud that we have.

It's just a game.
 
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