Would Babar Azam be a Top 3 Pick in a Global T20 Draft?

[unemployedgm]

I like Babar Azam. After a very long time Pakistan have one very good batsman. But I’m a little tired of ppl putting too much stock in the player rankings.

If there was a Global T20 Draft, would Babar Azam be picked ahead of Johnny Bairstow, Jason Roy, David Warner, Aaron Finch, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Quinton de Kock and on and on...

The rankings reward run compilation not impact. That’s what Babar does.

 

[sweep_shot]

T20 is a power game.

I think Sharjeel has better value than Babar in T20 format.

Also, I would pick Eoin Morgan, Jos Butler, and Ben Stokes first.

 

[BreadPakoda]

No. Even David Malan, who is ICC rank 1, won't be a top 3 pick.

 

[unemployedgm]

No. Even David Malan, who is ICC rank 1, won't be a top 3 pick.

That’s my point. The rankings are a joke.

 

[Geil]

I think Babar provides foundation consistently which needs to be built into match winning inning by some other batsmen consistently who could score at a higher strike rate like maybe what Hafeez did against Eng

Babar is still young, he should be aiming for more development in his batting and learn to become closer to the likes of Warner, Rohit, Kohli who can score runs at higher strike rates after building the foundation in first 10 overs

Babar is still has lot to develop in his game to be named besides the modern day greats like Warner,Rohit,AB de Villiers and Kohli in LOI"s

right now I think babar"s game in LOI looks very similar to a Amla , Williamson or root maybe who all score runs consistently but dont have the game like a Warner,Rohit,AB de Villiers and Kohli have, who has the ability to score runs at higher strike rates once they are in

Right now he is certainly(debatable) to be a candidate in that Global T20 draft but certainly not a top 3 pick

 

[ahmadharis1]

Probably not...

Players I'd take before Babar Azam in no particular order:

Virat Kohli
Rohit Sharma
Jos Buttler
David Warner
Glenn Maxwell
Jason Roy

I could probably go on...

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Not yet, not top 3 pick for sure.

 

[Buffet]

I like Babar Azam. After a very long time Pakistan have one very good batsman. But I’m a little tired of ppl putting too much stock in the player rankings.

If there was a Global T20 Draft, would Babar Azam be picked ahead of Johnny Bairstow, Jason Roy, David Warner, Aaron Finch, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Quinton de Kock and on and on...

The rankings reward run compilation not impact. That’s what Babar does.

T-20 rankings are least reliable.

On other hands, if some one comes up in the top 5 consistently in ODI or Test then you have a pretty good chance that player is among the top 5.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Unfortunately, no. Because he's not a match winner.


Top 3 picks would be:-

1. Virat Kohli - Biggest superstar in the game,clutch player, match winner,

2. Ben Stokes - Most valuable player in the game right now

3. Hafeez 3.0 - The most dominant batsman in the game right now

 

[jiduguravindra]

Unfortunately, no. Because he's not a match winner.


Top 3 picks would be:-

1. Virat Kohli - Biggest superstar in the game,clutch player, match winner,

2. Ben Stokes - Most valuable player in the game right now

3. Hafeez 3.0 - The most dominant batsman in the game right now

Really surprised how hafeez is scoring runs in t20 format consistently and that too with higher SR.
Definitely i will take hafeez ahead of babar at the moment.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Really surprised how hafeez is scoring runs in t20 format consistently and that too with higher SR.
Definitely i will take hafeez ahead of babar at the moment.

Hafeez 3.0 in last two years is legit god mode and whoever doesn't respect or acknowledge that is suffering from hate and insecurity. Sorry to anyone if it hurts but it's true.

 

[Red Devil]

That’s my point. The rankings are a joke.

Rankings reflect performance, not ability or reputation.

 

[Ted123]

Not at all. Run scoring alone is never enough to win games in T20.

 

[shah_1]

Russell

Bumrah

Virat Kohli

 

[unemployedgm]

Rankings reflect performance, not ability or reputation.

The algorithm used for the rankings rewards runs scored.

 

[Hasan123]

No he wouldn't be in the top 3.

 

[gazza619]

No, Babar holds a T20 innings together and is not a power hitter

 

[IMMY69]

Does it help that when he comes into bat I really want to watch him play??
His the elegance of his strokes, those exquisite cover drives and lovely flicks to the boundary...

Or is only about smashing it over the boundary rope?

 

[Mamoon]

No.

Babar has benefited from playing alongside pathetic batsmen.

 

[Indiafan]

Rankings reflect performance, not ability or reputation.

They reward runs scored while t20 is all about strike rate and impact. We need a different ranking for t20s

 

[Mamoon]

They reward runs scored while t20 is all about strike rate and impact. We need a different ranking for t20s

Strike rate and impact have to do with runs scored as well.

A batsman who averages 20 at a strike rate of 200+ will not have great impact on the game, especially if he is a top-order batsman.

The best T20 players in the world have high strike rate and score runs consistently.

 

[Mamoon]

If Babar was playing for England, India or Australia, he wouldn’t have had been able to make an impact.

He would be playing behind Roy/Buttler, Sharma/Rahul/Kohli and Warner/Finch. He wouldn’t have the opportunities to make a mark.

 

[Mesozoic]

Virat Kohli
Rohit Sharma
KL Rahul
Quinton De Kock
David Warner
Aoron Finch
Steven Smith
Jason Roy
Jos Buttler
Jonny Bairstow
Kane Williamson
Andre Russell (for his batting alone)

Arguably

Glenn Maxwell
Martin Guptill
Evin Lewis
Chris Lynn
David Malan

All the above will get picked ahead of Babar. He's a great player for Pakistani standards and is remarkably consistent but more often than not, his knocks will lack impact. Heck even Hafeez 3.0 is more impactful than Babar.

 

[Abdullah719]

He won’t.

Someday in his career, I think he will. But not close just yet.

 

[Indiafan]

Strike rate and impact have to do with runs scored as well.

A batsman who averages 20 at a strike rate of 200+ will not have great impact on the game, especially if he is a top-order batsman.

The best T20 players in the world have high strike rate and score runs consistently.

Yes but current rankings is only runs scored and do not consider strike rate at all

 

[Titan24]

Yes but current rankings is only runs scored and do not consider strike rate at all

Its cant be just runs. As per ICC’s website

“ The MRF Tyres ICC Player Rankings is a table where international cricket players performances are ranked using a points based system which is worked out by doing a series of calculations leading to a sophisticated moving average. Players are rated on a scale of 0 to 1000 points. If a player’s performance is improving on his past record, his points increase; if his performance is declining his points will go down. The value of each player’s performance within a match is calculated using an algorithm, a series of calculations (all pre-programmed) based on various circumstances in the match. There is no human intervention in this calculation process, and no subjective assessment is made. There are slightly different factors for each of the different formats of the game.”

https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/about

 

[Titan24]

He wont make the top 3 players but some of the names being put on here as better than Babar even have lower SR then him. As an example Williamson averages 32 with SR of 125 and Steve Smith averages 27 with SR of 131 while Babar averages 50 at SR of 128, so not exactly sure how some of the names being talked about here are better.

 

[Mueez]

Think Babar is getting a lots of unnecessary criticism which is being reflected on his performances of recent times.

Cut the guy some slack - he is Pakistan’s best bat.

I just hope he is able to get through this and doesn’t put too much pressure on his SR.

 

[The Viper]

He wouldn’t tbh, That’s not to say he is not a very good T20 player, but his style of play is not the aggressive type, which the likes of Warner, Buttler etc are.

 

[Red Devil]

Its cant be just runs. As per ICC’s website

“ The MRF Tyres ICC Player Rankings is a table where international cricket players performances are ranked using a points based system which is worked out by doing a series of calculations leading to a sophisticated moving average. Players are rated on a scale of 0 to 1000 points. If a player’s performance is improving on his past record, his points increase; if his performance is declining his points will go down. The value of each player’s performance within a match is calculated using an algorithm, a series of calculations (all pre-programmed) based on various circumstances in the match. There is no human intervention in this calculation process, and no subjective assessment is made. There are slightly different factors for each of the different formats of the game.”

https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/about

Lol imagine thinking the rankings are only based on runs when the number 1 batsman in the world has scored only 682 total runs in his entire career.

 

[Indiafan]

Lol imagine thinking the rankings are only based on runs when the number 1 batsman in the world has scored only 682 total runs in his entire career.

Its based on runs as a moving average, with recency bias and quality of opposition considered. So if you improve on your previous average and continue to do so, your rankings increase. So a player who scored 4 50s in a row will get arguably more ratings than someone who scores 3 100s with a 0 in between as the later points will go down in between

 

[hashimafzal]

If Babar was playing for England, India or Australia, he wouldn’t have had been able to make an impact.

He would be playing behind Roy/Buttler, Sharma/Rahul/Kohli and Warner/Finch. He wouldn’t have the opportunities to make a mark.

How do you know?

 

[Mamoon]

How do you know?

Because it is obvious. No one in his right mind would pick Babar to open in T20Is ahead of Warner, Finch, Roy, Bairstow, Rohit and Rahul.

 

[hashimafzal]

Because it is obvious. No one in his right mind would pick Babar to open in T20Is ahead of Warner, Finch, Roy, Bairstow, Rohit and Rahul.

You assume that with that sort of competition around, Babar would end up being the exact same player he is today?

 

[Mamoon]

You assume that with that sort of competition around, Babar would end up being the exact same player he is today?

He would actually be worse, because he wouldn’t have the luxury to open the innings at bat at his own pace.

In England or Australia, he would be coming in after Roy, Bairstow, Warner, Finch would give explosive starts and he will have to go for big shots from the first ball.

In India, he wouldn’t even be in the T20I team because they wouldn’t want a touch player like him to bat at 4 after Rohit, Rahul and Kohli.

Playing for a small team like Pakistan is different to playing for the top teams. They have greater demands.