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Would Gundappa Vishwanath ever make it to a World Test XI?

Harsh Thakor

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For sheer artistry and batting prowess arguably few batsmen were the equal of Gundappa Vishwanath. In his era Vishy took batting art to the sublime taking batting art to depths rarely attained before.He could simple caress the quickest of deliveries to the fence with the most delicate of touches.His strokes exuded the grace of a lotus blooming and the skill and creativity of a magician.His best cut shots or flicks were executed with the touches of a painter's brush.Vishy was a surgeon,architect and poet rolled into one.In 1974-75 against West Indies he topped the batting averages at 56.8.His unbeaten 97 at Madras was ranked amongst Wisden's top 6 test innings ever where he revealed cricketing genius at it's greatest height.On bad wickets he overshadowed the great Sunil Gavaskar with his unbeaten 124 at Madras in 1978-79 versus West Indies a perfect example.His He did not have the statistical figures of Gavaskar but when the chips were down he would often outscore him.India never lost a test where Vishy scored a century.To me a fifty of a hundred by Vishwanath would make a greater impact on a test match than that of Sunny,even if Sunny was overall clearly the greater batsmen.Against pure pace Vishy would overshadow Gavaskar ,particularly on a bouncy track.Arguably his 75 v West Indies at Edgbaston in the 1975 Prudential world cup was the best ever innings played against that great pace quartet.Vishy had a big hand in India's record run chase of 406 runs at Port of Spain in 1975-76 scoring 112.In 1976 at Wellington he scored two 70's showing judgement rarely seen on seaming tops in overcast conditions.I can also never forget the role Vishy played in saving the Delhi test v England in 1981-82,tests at Old Trafford and the Oval in 1982 and in India winning the 1980-81 Melbourne test.Sadly Vishy did not play English 1st class cricket,Rest of the world Australia unofficial tests,WSC supertests or many ODI's.An overall test average of 41.93 hardly did justice to Vishy's true abilty.In the modern era he may well have averaged around 50 and been an all-time O.D.I.player.

What may have gone against Vishy being classed with the greats like Viv Richards was that he often threw his wicket away and did not attain the level of concentration of Gavaskar.On his day it was difficult envisaging even Viv surpass the creative genius of Vishy.However he fell into patches of inconsistency like against pakistan at home in 1979-80.Away from home he never emulated Sunil Gavaskar's mammoth 221 at the Oval , Viv Richard's 291 at the Oval ,Zaheer Abbas's 274 at Edgbaston or even Majid Khan's 167 at Georgetown.

How did Vishy compare with his contemporary stylist,Zaheer Abbas?Unlike Zaheer Abbas Vishy never scored a double hundred away who acheived the landmark twice in England and twice at home.Nor did he have as good an agregate or average facing the likes of Dennis Lillee as Zaheer Abbas in 1976-77.Vishy averaged over 50 against a depleted Aussie attack in 1977-78.Still his 114 at Melbourne ressurecting India from the grave was a classic.In a crisis I feel he was better than Zaheer Abbas and against genuine pace or on fast wicket.Vishy had a considerably better record against West Indies.Overall Zaheer fared better in England and Australia.Conclusively thus Zaheer was by a whisker a better candidate for selection in a world xi.

Clive Lloyd had a considerably better record against top quality Australian pace on 3 tours in 1975-76,1979-80 and 1981-82.He was considerably more consistent towards the end of his career.Still,till 1981-82 Vishy averaged marginally more than Clive at around 44.For many parts of his career Vishy 's test average was marginally ahead of Lloyd's,which eventually climbed to 46.67.Lloyd had the advantage of playing for a team of world -beaters.What would win the place for Lloyd finally was his great role as a skipper.



To me from 1974-76 , before the advent of Viv Richards in prime ,Vishy may just have scraped into the world test xi in place of Zaheer Abbas against hostile pace.Clive Lloyd would have been his major competitor in 1975 and 79.In 1976- 80 he would have been edged out by Viv Richards and the Chappel brothers or Clive Lloyd.In Australia in 1972 it could have been a neck to neck tussle with Zaheer Abbas for a pace in a world xi.
 
It would be a travesty if Vishy didn't make it to a world test 11.

He was one of the best middle order sloggers the game has ever seen.

Not a swashbuckling smasher of the ball like his famous brother-in-law but more of a steady blocker. Rahul Dravid was very much inspired by him.
 
Who is this guy? Why do we care about all these oldies where we can't even see them bat and bowl?

In my opinion players whose batting and bowling can be actually seen should only be rated
 
He doesn't even make it in India's Test XL. Many past Indian, Pakistani, Sri lankan and West Indian greats aren't recognized because they didn't play England, Australia, SA and NZ enough. Aussies and English tend to overrate their "greats".
 
He doesn't even make it in India's Test XL. Many past Indian, Pakistani, Sri lankan and West Indian greats aren't recognized because they didn't play England, Australia, SA and NZ enough. Aussies and English tend to overrate their "greats".

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His Talent cannot be doubted , but it would be tough to make India XI let alone Asia ....
 
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His Talent cannot be doubted , but it would be tough to make India XI let alone Asia ....
Gavaskar rates Vishy the best batsmen he ever saw in his era .2 of his centuries are amongst the wisden best 100 of all,Espinosa cri into has selected Vishy in indian xi .Vishy won more bganes than Sunny .
 
No way. Was good in India's context only. Would not make it to Top 50 batsman of the world even.
 
No way. Was good in India's context only. Would not make it to Top 50 batsman of the world even.
Read how cricket experts and ex-players rate him At his best he was as good or even better than Gavaskar.One of the best exponents of genuine pace.Posessed talent in the Lara class .Dennis Lillee rated him very highly and so did Andy Roberts.
 
Read how cricket experts and ex-players rate him At his best he was as good or even better than Gavaskar.One of the best exponents of genuine pace.Posessed talent in the Lara class .Dennis Lillee rated him very highly and so did Andy Roberts.

I have seen many videos of his innings and I would say Sunny praised him because he is his relative.
Just 6k runs in 91 tests at 41 and less than 500 runs in 25 ODI at 19. There are not many impactful innings from him, a kind which turned the match on its head but Sunny had quite a few. What to make out of that when you see far better numbers than this from his era? And as I said earlier he was a good batsman but from India's perspective only.
 
I have seen many videos of his innings and I would say Sunny praised him because he is his relative.
Just 6k runs in 91 tests at 41 and less than 500 runs in 25 ODI at 19. There are not many impactful innings from him, a kind which turned the match on its head but Sunny had quite a few. What to make out of that when you see far better numbers than this from his era? And as I said earlier he was a good batsman but from India's perspective only.

It is not just about stats see his artistry which no one possessed.He played in an era where there was no protective headgear and pace bowling was more lethal with wickets far more pace friendly.I would have backed him to average around 50 today with wickets so much flatter Played pace better then many modern day stalwarts.
 
I have seen many videos of his innings and I would say Sunny praised him because he is his relative.
Just 6k runs in 91 tests at 41 and less than 500 runs in 25 ODI at 19. There are not many impactful innings from him, a kind which turned the match on its head but Sunny had quite a few. What to make out of that when you see far better numbers than this from his era? And as I said earlier he was a good batsman but from India's perspective only.

In fact he averaged 6 runs more than Gavaskar in games won and his fifties and centuries won more matches .2 selected in wisden best 100 innings,See his average against West Indies,against whom he won 4 tests.On bad wickets experts rated Vishy even better than Gavaskar.
 
In test cricket ranked in the ZaheerAbbas class or even better.I rate him in the class of an Azhar or David Gower.Outstanding against great bowling.

Perhaps so but still wouldn't command a place in my middle order all time eleven. The others you mentioned won't be in my team either.
 
In test cricket ranked in the ZaheerAbbas class or even better.I rate him in the class of an Azhar or David Gower.Outstanding against great bowling.

Would Azhar Ali make your Current Test XI? (Would would your current test XI look like?)
 
May be between 1974/75 he'll make the XI, because Viv & Greg wasn't there established yet. Apart from that - no.

Vishi was an artist, mixture of the 2 other southern boy - Azhar & VVS. His 97* is best by any Indian batsman against "genuine" WI pace battery.
 
May be between 1974/75 he'll make the XI, because Viv & Greg wasn't there established yet. Apart from that - no.

Vishi was an artist, mixture of the 2 other southern boy - Azhar & VVS. His 97* is best by any Indian batsman against "genuine" WI pace battery.

That perhaps is an apt assessment. Even Mohammed Yousuf a Pakistani great had an outstanding couple of years which would put him in a league of great players of his era during that phase but otherwise may not find himself in world x1 of his era but nevertheless his place in annals of Pak cricket will remain that of a brilliant player.
 
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