Would it be sensible for Multan Sultans to appoint Michael Bracewell as their captain for PSL 10?

[mominsaigol]

I have already exposed agenda based people's and their supporters

Now everyone can seen my signature to understand the reality of delusional fan's

Still waiting

 

[Local.Dada]

Time to bring back the 7 step analysis on popular demand for who should captain between Rizwan vs Bracewell for Multan.

1. Grasp on local language and communication- Rizwan can communicate in Pashto and Urdu and has basic command on English. Bracewell speaks only English and that too in a thick Nzl accent.
2. Comfort with leadership- local players will get intimidated by a white guy. You need a big brother type player.
3. Team combo- I am assuming PSL has a cap of overseas Players like IPL. Bracewell being a spinner and overseas player might not get a chance in every game.
4. Utility- Rizwan’s spin keeping is more valuable than Bracwell’s darts in these conditons.
5. Crowd puller and revenue generator- people in Pakistan will come to stadiums to watch Rizwan not Bracewell lol. Don’t think most know who he is.
6. Batting- I am sure better power hitting options available in Franchise. Rizwan is the main opening batsman and his job is to provide a good foundation. Some tulla slogging at the death in t20 is a bonus. Can’t build a team around that.
7. Team Ambassador/ presentation- Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans and critics on various topics compared to Bracewell.

Hence Rizwan > Bracewell.

 

[mominsaigol]

Time to bring back the 7 step analysis on popular demand for who should captain between Rizwan vs Bracewell for Multan.

1. Grasp on local language and communication- Rizwan can communicate in Pashto and Urdu and has basic command on English. Bracewell speaks only English and that too in a thick Nzl accent.
2. Comfort with leadership- local players will get intimidated by a white guy. You need a big brother type player.
3. Team combo- I am assuming PSL has a cap of overseas Players like IPL. Bracewell being a spinner and overseas player might not get a chance in every game.
4. Utility- Rizwan’s spin keeping is more valuable than Bracwell’s darts in these conditons.
5. Crowd puller and revenue generator- people in Pakistan will come to stadiums to watch Rizwan not Bracewell lol. Don’t think most know who he is.
6. Batting- I am sure better power hitting options available in Franchise. Rizwan is the main opening batsman and his job is to provide a good foundation. Some tulla slogging at the death in t20 is a bonus. Can’t build a team around that.
7. Team Ambassador/ presentation- Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans and critics on various topics compared to Bracewell.

Hence Rizwan > Bracewell.

One thing is for certain, the quality of this forumn in 2023 vs 2025 is hilarious.

It took 2 years for everything to go down the drain

 

[Devadwal]

Time to bring back the 7 step analysis on popular demand for who should captain between Rizwan vs Bracewell for Multan.

1. Grasp on local language and communication- Rizwan can communicate in Pashto and Urdu and has basic command on English. Bracewell speaks only English and that too in a thick Nzl accent.
2. Comfort with leadership- local players will get intimidated by a white guy. You need a big brother type player.
3. Team combo- I am assuming PSL has a cap of overseas Players like IPL. Bracewell being a spinner and overseas player might not get a chance in every game.
4. Utility- Rizwan’s spin keeping is more valuable than Bracwell’s darts in these conditons.
5. Crowd puller and revenue generator- people in Pakistan will come to stadiums to watch Rizwan not Bracewell lol. Don’t think most know who he is.
6. Batting- I am sure better power hitting options available in Franchise. Rizwan is the main opening batsman and his job is to provide a good foundation. Some tulla slogging at the death in t20 is a bonus. Can’t build a team around that.
7. Team Ambassador/ presentation- Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans and critics on various topics compared to Bracewell.

Hence Rizwan > Bracewell.

You can give any justification but agenda based people's Never want to face the reality.

 

[mominsaigol]

You can give any justification but agenda based people's Never want to face the reality.

Justification? It has nothing to do with agenda.

One of those points is Team Ambassador aka Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans.

^^ Joke of the century since he's an uneducated Pathan. Even good captains like Sarfaraz struggled to communicate due to his style of speaking both urdu and English and you're arguing rizwan is a better team Ambassador then Bracewell.

Now give me top 10 batters > chanderpaul. Stop hiding from me

 

[Rana]

Time to bring back the 7 step analysis on popular demand for who should captain between Rizwan vs Bracewell for Multan.

1. Grasp on local language and communication- Rizwan can communicate in Pashto and Urdu and has basic command on English. Bracewell speaks only English and that too in a thick Nzl accent.
2. Comfort with leadership- local players will get intimidated by a white guy. You need a big brother type player.
3. Team combo- I am assuming PSL has a cap of overseas Players like IPL. Bracewell being a spinner and overseas player might not get a chance in every game.
4. Utility- Rizwan’s spin keeping is more valuable than Bracwell’s darts in these conditons.
5. Crowd puller and revenue generator- people in Pakistan will come to stadiums to watch Rizwan not Bracewell lol. Don’t think most know who he is.
6. Batting- I am sure better power hitting options available in Franchise. Rizwan is the main opening batsman and his job is to provide a good foundation. Some tulla slogging at the death in t20 is a bonus. Can’t build a team around that.
7. Team Ambassador/ presentation- Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans and critics on various topics compared to Bracewell.

Hence Rizwan > Bracewell.

One of the most uninformed posts I have read in a long….long time!

Point 3 about overseas players cap….

Bracewell was their first pick in the platinum category whilst players such as Glenn Chapman and Finn Allen were still available! Why would they suddenly not play Bracewell in all of their matches??????

 

[Rana]

5. Crowd puller and revenue generator- people in Pakistan will come to stadiums to watch Rizwan not Bracewell lol. Don’t think most know who he is.

Another stupid, stupid, stupid point.


Everyone who knows Babar Azam knows who Bracewell is. Can you prove that this is incorrect?????

 

[Rana]

1. Grasp on local language and communication- Rizwan can communicate in Pashto and Urdu and has basic command on English. Bracewell speaks only English and that too in a thick Nzl accent.

7. Team Ambassador/ presentation- Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans and critics on various topics compared to Bracewell.

What?? They have English bowling coaches! They have David Willey and Chris Jordan doing a lot of the leadership and team strategy for them too. How will the local players fail to understand what Bracewell is saying but understand what Rizwan is saying with his way of speaking? The whole team isn’t Pashto speaking!

 

[mominsaigol]

Another stupid, stupid, stupid point.


Everyone who knows Babar Azam knows who Bracewell is. Can you prove that this is incorrect?????

Bro how did you find out about Bracewell, i wasn't able to track him. He's so far off the grid even the goverment has trouble finding any sort of data .

 

[Rana]

@Local.Dada is an embarrassment to Indian cricket fans.

I have a lot of regard for the cricketing sense and understanding of Indian posters…but I think Local Dada is a Pakistan cricket fan posing as an Indian with his ridiculous cricket views and assessments!

 

[mominsaigol]

What?? They have English bowling coaches! They have David Willey and Chris Jordan doing a lot of the leadership and team strategy for them too. How will the local players fail to understand what Bracewell is saying but understand what Rizwan is saying with his way of speaking? The whole team isn’t Pashto speaking!

They should have made Shan captain and not David Warner. Warner can't speak pashto

 

[Rana]

They should have made Shan captain and not David Warner. Warner can't speak pashto

David Warner talks cricket with his batting and approach. That’s the issue for people like Local and coward Pakistani cricket fans. It’s a language they fail to understand.

 

[mominsaigol]

David Warner talks cricket with his batting and approach. That’s the issue for people like Local and coward Pakistani cricket fans. It’s a language they fail to understand.

Actually let me ask him

@Local.Dada According to your metrics, who's a better batsmen between rizwan and Warner?

Cause according to your 7 step process, rizwan automatically gets points for keeping against spin and pace + team ambassador + captaincy + Dada crowd puller.

No one can beat rizwan on that rubbish 7 step scale.

 

[Rana]

Actually let me ask him

@Local.Dada According to your metrics, who's a better batsmen between rizwan and Warner?

Cause according to your 7 step process, rizwan automatically gets points for keeping against spin and pace + team ambassador + captaincy + Dada crowd puller.

No one can rizwan on that rubbish 7 step scale.

Excellent point. The 7 gates of hell dantes scale doesnt apply in the IPL for Local but it should apply in Pakistan.

 

[Local.Dada]

Another stupid, stupid, stupid point.


Everyone who knows Babar Azam knows who Bracewell is. Can you prove that this is incorrect?????

You are saying the average reidi waalas- thela waalas know who Bracewell is ? get outta here. Kane Williamson or even Trent Boult some what I can give benefit of doubt and that too for some middling fan. Not all fans out there are like you and me posting on cricket forums and discussing stats and all that good stuff. The casual follower of cficket in subcontinent knows the name “Babar Azam” or “Rizwan” not sure of Bracewell.

 

[Rana]

I think the local players in Multan need to view Bracewell as their Abu. He is. He has been schooling their king Bobsy with the ball. He has been schooling their legend Rizwan in captaincy with a heavily depleted NZ side.

Once you view and acknowledge him as your Abu as you rightfully should, everything will make sense.

 

[Rana]

You are saying the average reidi waalas- thela waalas know who Bracewell is ?

That’s exactly what I am saying. These average reidi waalas etc know there is a Tall white spinner in NZ who makes Babar crap his trousers.

 

[Local.Dada]

Actually let me ask him

@Local.Dada According to your metrics, who's a better batsmen between rizwan and Warner?

nice bait but no thanks. Answer is Warner. I am not a blind fan

 

[Rana]

nice bait but no thanks. Answer is Warner. I am not a blind fan

But boy oh boy you are a weird one.

 

[mominsaigol]

Excellent point. The 7 gates of hell dantes scale doesnt apply in the IPL for Local but it should apply in Pakistan.

Babar can hit 6 4's in a super over

Chanderpaul is a nobody and rizwan is better then him in odi cricket.

Rizwan’s 131 vs Sri lanka is the best wc innings played by any batsmen in cricket history.

Rizwan is > Bracewell as a PSL captain because Bracewell can't speak pashto.

Rizwan is better then Inglis and Travis Head would be honored to Open with him.

Babar Azam 2025 will be his resurgence and his best years are ahead of him, my oh my oh my.

Their are 33 Players in KPK > current Pakistan team.

Imam ul Haq is a better odi batsmen then Ricky Ponting

Abdullah Shafique should be nominated to be Pakistan's Flagship batsmen.

What brilliant cricketing acumen these lads have. Oh and 50 people choosing rizwan as their odi captain

 

[Local.Dada]

What?? They have English bowling coaches! They have David Willey and Chris Jordan doing a lot of the leadership and team strategy for them too. How will the local players fail to understand what Bracewell is saying but understand what Rizwan is saying with his way of speaking? The whole team isn’t Pashto speaking!

Rizwan can speak in Pashto, has a heavy accent because not a native speaker but can speak Urdu fluently, knows enough English to somewhat get his point across.

Bracewell speaks English and that too with a heavy Nzl accent which is not easy to understand for most folk. He might know sign language though because “western attitude” as @mominsaigol says teaches sign language in elementary school for all kids but more sure if any deaf + mute players are there in the team.

 

[Local.Dada]

But boy oh boy you are a weird one.

What’s weird about picking Warner over Rizwan. Are you saying Bracewell is in the same league as Warner? That is weird to me.

 

[Rana]

Babar can hit 6 4's in a super over

Chanderpaul is a nobody and rizwan is better then him in odi cricket.

Rizwan’s 131 vs Sri lanka is the best wc innings played by any batsmen in cricket history.

Rizwan is > Bracewell as a PSL captain because Bracewell can't speak pashto.

Rizwan is better then Inglis and Travis Head would be honored to Open with him.

Babar Azam 2025 will be his resurgence and his best years are ahead of him, my oh my oh my.

Their are 33 Players in KPK > current Pakistan team.

Imam ul Haq is a better odi batsmen then Ricky Ponting

Abdullah Shafique should be nominated to be Pakistan's Flagship batsmen.

What brilliant cricketing acumen these lads have. Oh and 50 people choosing rizwan as their odi captain

Bro Pakistani’s saying these bongis I can understand. They have proven themselves as a jaahil cricket nation.

It really hurts me to see Indian cricket fans speak this kind of nonsense as well. Indians have the IPL and their own captain+management has understood that to be the best you have to beat the best in their own game.

For them to come up with Pakistan level bongis is highly disappointing.

 

[Rana]

What’s weird about picking Warner over Rizwan. Are you saying Bracewell is in the same league as Warner? That is weird to me.

Rizwan is a superior captain to Bracewell?

 

[Local.Dada]

Rizwan is a superior captain to Bracewell?

Yes. Let them exchange teams you will know. Stephen Fleming to me was a better captain than Ricky Ponting.

 

[Rana]

Yes. Let them exchange teams you will know. Stephen Fleming to me was a better captain than Ricky Ponting.

That makes Brian Masaba a better captain than Rizwan too?

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes. Let them exchange teams you will know. Stephen Fleming to me was a better captain than Ricky Ponting.

Ponting is the most successful odi captain of all time and acting like he was just a passenger in the side when he's literally Australia's best odi batter and has single handedly won games for his side and claiming that he isn't no 1 is comical.

No disrespect to Fleming though however Ponting's competiton wasn't tamim iqbal or Rizwan.

He was the best player and still is the best player both past and present amongst the likes of Dean Jones, Adam gilchrist, David Warner, Mattew Hayden, Damien Martyn, Prime 2015 Steve Smith and many more.

^^ These are all World class batters that are better then any batsmen from this era excluding a select few like prime Kohli.

He was also > any batter in his era with Sachin being the only one who was comparable as Sachin was overall a better batsmen but Ponting was more clutch and someone you feared more then Sachin due to his ability to utterly end you if he got going.

Rizwan and Babar occupy a vital no 3 and no 4 spot for their team, replace these 2 for Ponting and Martyn and keep everyone else the same including rubbish imam and Abdullah and you'd see the side transform over night.

And lastly he wasn't a brain dead idiot, tactically he's the best fielding captain of all time as well. He's a better tactician then Pat Cummins who I view as top 5 captains of all time. And a better tactician then Dhoni too.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Time to bring back the 7 step analysis on popular demand for who should captain between Rizwan vs Bracewell for Multan.

1. Grasp on local language and communication- Rizwan can communicate in Pashto and Urdu and has basic command on English. Bracewell speaks only English and that too in a thick Nzl accent.
2. Comfort with leadership- local players will get intimidated by a white guy. You need a big brother type player.
3. Team combo- I am assuming PSL has a cap of overseas Players like IPL. Bracewell being a spinner and overseas player might not get a chance in every game.
4. Utility- Rizwan’s spin keeping is more valuable than Bracwell’s darts in these conditons.
5. Crowd puller and revenue generator- people in Pakistan will come to stadiums to watch Rizwan not Bracewell lol. Don’t think most know who he is.
6. Batting- I am sure better power hitting options available in Franchise. Rizwan is the main opening batsman and his job is to provide a good foundation. Some tulla slogging at the death in t20 is a bonus. Can’t build a team around that.
7. Team Ambassador/ presentation- Rizwan can clearly communicate to the fans and critics on various topics compared to Bracewell.

Hence Rizwan > Bracewell.

Why do you always analyze things in 7 points? Are you a Thala fan?

 

[Local.Dada]

Ponting is the most successful odi captain of all time and acting like he was just a passenger in the side when he's literally Australia's best odi batter and has single handedly won games for his side and claiming that he isn't no 1 is comical.

No disrespect to Fleming though however Ponting's competiton wasn't tamim iqbal or Rizwan.

He was the best player and still is the best player both past and present amongst the likes of Dean Jones, Adam gilchrist, David Warner, Mattew Hayden, Damien Martyn, Prime 2015 Steve Smith and many more.

^^ These are all World class batters that are better then any batsmen from this era excluding a select few like prime Kohli.

He was also > any batter in his era with Sachin being the only one who was comparable as Sachin was overall a better batsmen but Ponting was more clutch and someone you feared more then Sachin due to his ability to utterly end you if he got going.

Rizwan and Babar occupy a vital no 3 and no 4 spot for their team, replace these 2 for Ponting and Martyn and keep everyone else the same including rubbish imam and Abdullah and you'd see the side transform over night.

And lastly he wasn't a brain dead idiot, tactically he's the best fielding captain of all time as well. He's a better tactician then Pat Cummins who I view as top 5 captains of all time. And a better tactician then Dhoni too.

let me summarize it this way, if you have a better captain and keeper-bat than Rizwan in Pakistan than ASAP you should get him in the side because that would mean a pretty good player almost Butler level that is being wasted away.

 

[RyanRyan10]

@Local.Dada is an embarrassment to Indian cricket fans.

I have a lot of regard for the cricketing sense and understanding of Indian posters…but I think Local Dada is a Pakistan cricket fan posing as an Indian with his ridiculous cricket views and assessments!

He is actually a nice guy, but he is overly nice. It seems he also suffers "classic cricket syndrome" and doesn't appreciate aggressive players unless they are exceptional.

 

[Local.Dada]

Why do you always analyze things in 7 points? Are you a Thala fan?

Fan of the film Seven with Brad Pitt. No reason. 7 steps Has a nice ring to it. I have already given more than 7 technically on this topic

 

[mominsaigol]

That makes Brian Masaba a better captain than Rizwan too?

@Local.Dada The only sympathy i will give rizwan is that he plays for Pakistan's weakest odi side of all time.

However that doesn't change the fact that

A) He has fined his side more times then most captains in their entire playing career, mainly cause he's utterly delusional in thinking that he can bowl out oppositions within 40 overs. Those aus and sa flukes won't happen every game.

B) He happens to be one of the worst DRS captains i have ever seen. The fact that he thought Bracewell wasn't out due to height but then took the drs review anyway when the entire planet and everyone's mama could tell that the delivery was pitching outside leg is comical.

C) He's utterly clueless about conditons. I'm 100% convinced that he says random things at the toss. During his NZ conference he first claimed that NZ had an unfair advantage as they got to bat first and Pakistan didn't.

Then the Interviewer pointed put that rizwan himself chose to field . What a doofus.

D) In the first odi he chose no 5th bowler , he wanted to bowl the opposition put for 40 and when he realised that it backfired he was stuck having to bowl agha and niazi. He corrected this in the 2nd and 3rd odi however.

^^ This has nothing to do with the team and are solely based of decison making. From which angle is he a gun ho captain?

Did bracewell fudge up on overrates? Did bracewell take stupid drs decisons? Did bracewell make stupid claims such as "They adapted to their own conditons?"

 

[Local.Dada]

@Local.Dada The only sympathy i will give rizwan is that he plays for Pakistan's weakest odi side of all time.

However that doesn't change the fact that

A) He has fined his side more times then most captains in their entire playing career, mainly cause he's utterly delusional in thinking that he can bowl out oppositions within 40 overs. Those aus and sa flukes won't happen every game.

B) He happens to be one of the worst DRS captains i have ever seen. The fact that he thought Bracewell wasn't out due to height but then took the drs review anyway when the entire planet and everyone's mama could tell that the delivery was pitching outside leg is comical.

C) He's utterly clueless about conditons. I'm 100% convinced that he says random things at the toss. During his NZ conference he first claimed that NZ had an unfair advantage as they got to bat first and Pakistan didn't.

Then the Interviewer pointed put that rizwan himself chose to field . What a doofus.

D) In the first odi he chose no 5th bowler , he wanted to bowl the opposition put for 40 and when he realised that it backfired he was stuck having to bowl agha and niazi. He corrected this in the 2nd and 3rd odi however.

^^ This has nothing to do with the team and are solely based of decison making. From which angle is he a gun ho captain?

Did bracewell fudge up on overrates? Did bracewell take stupid drs decisons? Did bracewell make stupid claims such as "They adapted to their own conditons?"

Bro I get some frustrations with the team when it’s not winning but you can’t nitpick on problem no.9 and 10 when you have 8 other critical s going down.

Now coming to overrate yes it’s a problem but I think due to the team combo I guess there was no other option to keep going with fast bowlers. Not an excuse though. Bracewll’s team kept bowling out Pak much before full quota so where is the problem of overrate?

 

[mominsaigol]

let me summarize it this way, if you have a better captain and keeper-bat than Rizwan in Pakistan than ASAP you should get him in the side because that would mean a pretty good player almost Butler level that is being wasted away.

Agha can't do any worse then rizzu. As I already explained this side is trash but atleast a sensible captain and avoid overrates and making moronic statements like NZ Had an unfair advantage by batting first which is why I chose to field .

As for keeper bats, Pakistan should have tried to Open with usman Khan in t20. Rizwan is not suited for t20, and Usman khan has shown that on current form he's a better opener then imam and Abdullah.

And opener means opener, not no 3, not a concussion sub, opener, end of story. Isman Khan mistimes alot and sucks at playing bounce and short deliveries however due to the nature of the first power play, he can get away with it since he atleast knows how to clear the inner ring on a consistent basis.

Now as for ODI, yes Pakistan talent is dry, unfortunately their is no replacement for rizwan from a wk batting perspective, which is why I don't mind keeping him at no 5, not a no 4.

But the fact that you think to surpass rizwan you need to be Butler level is hilarious .

Butler is a better batsmen then Carey and Inglis in his prime and both Carey and inglis are leagues > Rizwan.

 

[Rana]

He is actually a nice guy, but he is overly nice. It seems he also suffers "classic cricket syndrome" and doesn't appreciate aggressive players unless they are exceptional.

He’s not very nice towards modern players and a modern approach. Also, I don’t understand how he can apply rules and methods to Pakistan cricket knowing they are absolute b.s when applied to Indian cricket.i get there is a gulf in quality of players available but why shouldn’t Pakistan do the right thing with the players they have at their disposal?

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro I get some frustrations with the team when it’s not winning but you can’t nitpick on problem no.9 and 10 when you have 8 other critical s going down.

Now coming to overrate yes it’s a problem but I think due to the team combo I guess there was no other option to keep going with fast bowlers. Not an excuse though. Bracewll’s team kept bowling out Pak much before full quota so where is the problem of overrate?

I am not nit picking problems. Brian masaba is actually a very good captain. But he's a rubbish player, playing for a rubbish team in a country or cricketers who have zero funding, no domestic structure and not even any low level leagues which teams like usa and Canada have.

I'm referring to cricketing acumen. Since you like dealing in 7's, let me show you how it's done. Here's Momin's Fatal 5 rules to be a good Captain.

If a captain is

A) Good with team selection aka choosing the best possible playing 11 out of playing 15 even if said playing 15 is doo doo, then that's one tick mark.

B) If they are good with drs, then they are good as well. They don't have to be magicians, and infact even the best captains get drs wrong, however they can't be so brain dead that they can't figure out that chapman is clearly not out as its pitching so far outside leg, someone standing on the moon would be able to see it.

C) If they make decent field sets and bowling changes irrespective of team strength then that's another tick, For example against sheryas iyer most captains field on the inner ring towards the legside and the captain instructs the bowler to bowl short since sheryas is poor against short balls.

Similarly most players immediately bring in the spinner once babar azam arrives at the crease. How told this dummy to bring on Agha to a has been mitchell knowing full well that mitchell will capitalise on the 5th bowler? And who told this dummy to play without a 5th bowler in odi?

D) If a captain conducts himself well on press conferences then that's another tick. Since communication skills are important. You don't have to be educated or an English speaker, you just have to make sure you don't say something stupid such as Rizwan's

They had an unfair advantage as they batted first which is why he choose to field, or they adapted to their own curated conditions.

E) If a captain can read the pitch conditons at the toss then that's another tick. During wc 2023 final, Even Indian team misjudged the pitch as rohit wanted to bat first .

Cummins was the first person who actually figured out the pitch and conditons and bowling was a surprise decison at first but it was clearly a right call. However rizwan has clearly proven that he just makes totally random calls.

Why did he choose to bat first vs India on UAE when the world told him to bowl first? What a stupid decison knowing full well India likes to chase in such conditons ans your own team is doo doo at setting targets?

Lastly an Honorable mention of captains getting along with coaches but I'm leaving it put as it isn't applicable to rizwan in international due to Aqib. However in psl it'll get exposed eventually.

 

[Devadwal]

Another stupid, stupid, stupid point.


Everyone who knows Babar Azam knows who Bracewell is. Can you prove that this is incorrect?????

Bracewell is crowd puller??

Lol he is unknown player and some people would have not know him even in NZ.

This is another gem from you

 

[Rana]

Bracewell is crowd puller??

Lol he is unknown player and some people would have not know him even in NZ.

This is another gem from you

Rizwan is a crowd puller where? In KPK?

 

[Devadwal]

Rizwan is a crowd puller where? In KPK?

He is way better than bracewell. Bracewell ko kon Janta hai koi ni . Lol .

 

[Kianig89]

The stupidity of some fellas has no boundary, even in football clubs make local player the captain for obvious reasons despite boasting a variety of stars.

Puyol Captained Barca in the presence of Ronaldinho Deco Eto'o etc.

Ambrosini captained Milan in the presence of Shevchenko Seedorf Kaka

Neville captained UTD having Ronaldo Rooney Tevez etc.

 

[Rana]

The stupidity of some fellas has no boundary, even in football clubs make local player the captain for obvious reasons despite boasting a variety of stars.

Puyol Captained Barca in the presence of Ronaldinho Deco Eto'o etc.

Ambrosini captained Milan in the presence of Shevchenko Seedorf Kaka

Neville captained UTD having Ronaldo Rooney Tevez etc.

So Bracewell is a superstar now or a better captain than Rizwan? Which one is it?

 

[mominsaigol]

So Bracewell is a superstar now or a better captain than Rizwan? Which one is it?

Bracewell is a nobody, Chanderpaul is a nobody but Rizwan is the Taylor Swift of Pakistan

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Plz do not make it another riz thread.... stick to the topic

 

[Major]

Op has issue with MS owner, he has issue with MS captain, pretty sure he will have an issue with MS keeper. And when PSL starts, any player Rizwan backs, OP will have issue with that.

Funny thing is, OP is a Karachi supporter.

 

[daytrader]

Op has issue with MS owner, he has issue with MS captain, pretty sure he will have an issue with MS keeper. And when PSL starts, any player Rizwan backs, OP will have issue with that.

Funny thing is, OP is a Karachi supporter.

Agenda posters bro. This guy was against Bracewell's selection in the draft and now he wants him to be captain

 

[Rana]

Agenda posters bro. This guy was against Bracewell's selection in the draft and now he wants him to be captain

You misunderstood me.

I was against picking Bracewell as your first and only pick in the platinum. It merely exposes what I have always argued about Rizwan wanting to make sure that he is the only one that can open for Multan at all costs.

Finn Allen was still available but MS picked Bracewell. That’s a shocking decision really. They would have definitely got Bracewell in the supplementary or even in the Diamond if they really really wanted him.

As time has passed, it makes sense to appoint Bracewell as the skipper. He is 100% a better captain and tactician than Rizwan.

 

[daytrader]

You misunderstood me.

I was against picking Bracewell as your first and only pick in the platinum. It merely exposes what I have always argued about Rizwan wanting to make sure that he is the only one that can open for Multan at all costs.

Finn Allen was still available but MS picked Bracewell. That’s a shocking decision really. They would have definitely got Bracewell in the supplementary or even in the Diamond if they really really wanted him.

As time has passed, it makes sense to appoint Bracewell as the skipper. He is 100% a better captain and tactician than Rizwan.

Rehnay de. Everyone is 100x better than Rizwan in everything they do according to you. I've stopped taking your views seriously

 

[Rana]

Rehnay de. Everyone is 100x better than Rizwan in everything they do according to you. I've stopped taking your views seriously

Does you taking my views seriously pay my bills? How much do I care to always be right and you always ending up wrong?

 

[daytrader]

Does you taking my views seriously pay my bills? How much do I care to always be right and you always ending up wrong?

It's easy to bet against Pakistan especially when the team is down.. other than oh 'we are going to lose' when have you EVER been right?

 

[Rana]

It's easy to bet against Pakistan especially when the team is down.. other than oh 'we are going to lose' when have you EVER been right?

I betted against Pakistan when they were the number 1 rank ODI team going into the 2023 World Cup.

What happened there?

 

[daytrader]

I betted against Pakistan when they were the number 1 rank ODI team going into the 2023 World Cup.

What happened there?

Congrats

 

[Rana]

Congrats

Clap for yourself. This is on you and the mindset you have endorsed as a cricket nation. Not me for calling it out.

 

[daytrader]

Clap for yourself. This is on you and the mindset you have endorsed as a cricket nation. Not me for calling it out.

You didn't call out nothing. Your main criticism as always was Rizwan playing out of position and not playing fast enough.

You did not predict the collapse against India. You did not predict the horror bowling show against Afghanistan.

We had one bad game against Afghanistan and if we had won that we would've been through to the semis.

 

[Major]

Rehnay de. Everyone is 100x better than Rizwan in everything they do according to you. I've stopped taking your views seriously

Lol funny thing is he is not a MS fan but is giving muft kay mashwaray

 

[Kianig89]

So Bracewell is a superstar now or a better captain than Rizwan? Which one is it?

Bracewell might be a superstar in NZ, but not much of a big thing in Pakistan , he might be a better captain than Rizwan but the franchise owners see Rizwan as their main man.

 

[BouncerGuy]

GUYS, CAN WE NOT MAKE THIS THREAD ANOTHER RIZWAN-BASHING ONE...

STAY ON TOPIC

TBH, I like this idea for bracewell being captain but it is not like rizwan was a failure as MS captain. He won the cup and made it to finals as well... Why would MS management change him... Not happening.

 

[gazza619]

It's easy to bet against Pakistan especially when the team is down.. other than oh 'we are going to lose' when have you EVER been right?

Bruh he recently predicted the restart of the Faheem Ashraf era.

 

[mominsaigol]

I betted against Pakistan when they were the number 1 rank ODI team going into the 2023 World Cup.

What happened there?

No serious cricket fan ever believed we were no 1. And I remember reading your post and people bashing you for it.

Anyone who believes that a team of

1) Imam
2) Fakhar/Abdullah
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Saud/Agha
6) Chacha
7) Shadab
8) Nawaz/Usama Mir
9) Shaheen
10) Naseem/Hasan Ali
11) Rauf

Is better then a team of

1) David Warner
2) Travis Head
3) Mitch Marsh
4) Steve Smith
5) Marnus Labu
6) Alex Carey/Josh Inglis
7) Glenn Maxwell
8) Pat Cummins
9) Mitchell Starc
10) Adam Zampa
11) Josh Hazlewood

Is downright delusional.

 

[BouncerGuy]

No serious cricket fan ever believed we were no 1. And I remember reading your post and people bashing you for it.

Anyone who believes that a team of

1) Imam
2) Fakhar/Abdullah
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Saud/Agha
6) Chacha
7) Shadab
8) Nawaz/Usama Mir
9) Shaheen
10) Naseem/Hasan Ali
11) Rauf

Is better then a team of

1) David Warner
2) Travis Head
3) Mitch Marsh
4) Steve Smith
5) Marnus Labu
6) Alex Carey/Josh Inglis
7) Glenn Maxwell
8) Pat Cummins
9) Mitchell Starc
10) Adam Zampa
11) Josh Hazlewood

Is downright delusional.

what does it have to do with Multan sultans' captaincy discussion???

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC NOW????

 

[RyanRyan10]

i get there is a gulf in quality of players available but why shouldn’t Pakistan do the right thing with the players they have at their disposal?

I had tried explaining him once but @Local.Dada is someone who has even defended the 2022 Asia Cup final knock

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Bracewell is a nobody compared to Rizwan in international cricket, let's be clear. Outside of NZ who even knows Bracewell? Rizwan is one of the most decorated franchise and international players of his time with everyone from Nasser Hussain to Kohli acknowledging his skills. It would be an insult to have a nobody like Bracewell captain ahead of Rizwan and it would damage the PSL brand.

 

[RidiculousMan]

GUYS, CAN WE NOT MAKE THIS THREAD ANOTHER RIZWAN-BASHING ONE...

STAY ON TOPIC

TBH, I like this idea for bracewell being captain but it is not like rizwan was a failure as MS captain. He won the cup and made it to finals as well... Why would MS management change him... Not happening.

Impossible

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

GUYS, CAN WE NOT MAKE THIS THREAD ANOTHER RIZWAN-BASHING ONE...

STAY ON TOPIC

TBH, I like this idea for bracewell being captain but it is not like rizwan was a failure as MS captain. He won the cup and made it to finals as well... Why would MS management change him... Not happening.

Rizwan is arguably PSL's most decorated player. It would be madness to remove him as captain. He is the guy people pay to watch and fills up seats.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Bracewell is a nobody compared to Rizwan in international cricket, let's be clear. Outside of NZ who even knows Bracewell? Rizwan is one of the most decorated franchise and international players of his time with everyone from Nasser Hussain to Kohli acknowledging his skills. It would be an insult to have a nobody like Bracewell captain ahead of Rizwan and it would damage the PSL brand.

Rizwan was unsold in the Hundred

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Rizwan was unsold in the Hundred

Nobody cares about the Hundred, pretty sure Riz himself didn't even want to participate. They can keep their tullas like Will Jack and Phil Salt.

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC NOW

 

[Rana]

Bracewell is a nobody compared to Rizwan in international cricket, let's be clear. Outside of NZ who even knows Bracewell? Rizwan is one of the most decorated franchise and international players of his time with everyone from Nasser Hussain to Kohli acknowledging his skills. It would be an insult to have a nobody like Bracewell captain ahead of Rizwan and it would damage the PSL brand.

Bro who knows Patidar? Yeah hes been around like a lot of Indian emerging talents, but they have made him the captain of RCB with Kohli happily playing under him. Its not a big deal. Rizwan's stocks have fallen massively after the CT. It was a total flop. No one cared or cried when he was dropped from the T20 squad. The mood has changed.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Bro who knows Patidar? Yeah hes been around like a lot of Indian emerging talents, but they have made him the captain of RCB with Kohli happily playing under him. Its not a big deal. Rizwan's stocks have fallen massively after the CT. It was a total flop. No one cared or cried when he was dropped from the T20 squad. The mood has changed.

I don't follow IPL other than cricket news here and there but I do recall Kohli's team never won the IPL - 18 years of failure. Not a comparable case to Kaptanaa's who led his team to glory.

 

[Rana]

Baqi aap sab siyane ho.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Baqi aap sab siyane ho.

Making the league look like a joke with his unprofessionalism

 

[Kianig89]

Michael Bracewell SR 250+
Rizwan SR 160

Bracewell 1-0 Rizwan

Cheers to @Rana

 

[RyanRyan10]

Michael Bracewell SR 250+
Rizwan SR 160

Bracewell 1-0 Rizwan

Cheers to @Rana

You say it as a joke but deep down you know that's the truth

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Baqi aap sab siyane ho.

This is like if someone turns up to a wedding in a t-shirt and jeans

 

[Rana]

Michael Bracewell SR 250+
Rizwan SR 160

Bracewell 1-0 Rizwan

Cheers to @Rana