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I am an offie and I am wondering is the flipper would be effective for be to bowl? I am able to bowl the standard off-spinner and the doosra.
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Nope not required, as long as you land your stock ball on a good length and mix up the pace flight etc thats all you ever need.
I consider myself self a hood off spinner snd trust me the more variation you have the better ypu will be , use this kind of delivery as a surprise by mixing things up
Mixing variations is all good but only if you can land the ball exactly where you want, your aim should be to impart as much spin as possible and work on trying to get the ball to drift, some balls naturally off the pitch won't turn so that's the only variation I need for now.
I'm prone to the odd half tracker and my aim is to eliminate that from my bowling. If the likes of Swann etc can bowl internationally without many variations than that tell me all I need to know and for me its just consistency.
@SOPL:- I think you don't need to sacrifice your real art just for some 'mystery'. I would just say 80% of your bowls should be stock balls and the rest should be something which the batsmen doesn't expect. Bowl your surprise delivery when the batsman expects it the least.
I agree but I was just wondering, if I required a variation in my bowling, would the flipper (which is more renowned to be a variation of the leg-spin bowler) be effective in amongst my usual off-breaks as a surprise variation?
Don't get me wrong if bowled properly you will get a lot of wickets however some people just complicate things and in the end all you do is bowl a poor ball that gets clobbered. First step is to practice practice and more practice until you are completely confident and than see how it goes.
Starting netting soon and I'm a left arm spinner and had a fairly successful season last year, my aim in nets will be trying to get some drift going as IMO this is even harder to play.
Playing 2nds again this year so for me the quality of batting isn't high enough for me to work on variations as simply landing the ball 6 times in a good area will guarantee to yield results.
Which league do you play in BTW?
I'm playing in CLL (Central Lancashire League)
To be honest, with your past posts and the advice you provided I assumed you were actually an off-spinner like myself. Nevertheless, can you turn the ball a copious amount or are you simply a slow left-armer relying upon line and length more than anything else?
Regarding my own last two previous seasons (I've only played two in two corky ball seasons yet), it is imperative to state that they have been considerably horrendous. Despite having the ability to turn the ball prodigiously and being relatively consistent in my line and length, I have actually been given only a few overs to bowl (even though every single match the rest of our bowlers become plundered mercilessly for runs) by the two atrocious Under-17 captains I've had.
One may be thinking that I'm unnecessarily ranting at my captains here but it definitely appears they have an agenda against me (they are actually rather selfish themselves) - despite me not having an abrasive personality at all, I'm considerably friendly in fact. For example, during a rare match last season where I was given an opportunity to bowl (after some of my team-mates constantly requested the captain to allow me to bowl) I gave away approximately 7 runs in my first over. However, in my second (rather surprising I was given even a first over because of the reasons mentioned above) over I acquired two wickets, clean-bowled comprehensively through the gate (with the batsman looking completely confounded as to what had occurred). Nevertheless, I was taken off at the end of this over despite the final score being an atrocious 151/3 (after a mere 20 overs as well!). This was not simply an example of an isolated incident - in many matches I was not even given a bowl and batted rather low too (despite persistently scoring more runs than any other of my team-mates).
One may question then: why did I decide to stay after the terrible first season (in which, the same as first season, we lost all games)? The answer is simple - I was compelled to stay because of the fact that I had already payed the requisite deposit fee of £20 for the season (I'm Pakistani so you can't expect me to leave without receiving my money's worth) and because this is the only team which conveniently has a minibus service which can accommodate the whole team to travel to both home and away matches.
I'll probably stay at the same club (despite its problems, its atmosphere - the players are all Pakistani - is decent) but hopefully, this season (if I may play, which is looking increasingly unlikely because of the work commitment I will have to provide to my A-Level work) will far much better for me.
When do you start netting?
I was treated like this in highschool, im 20 now, i played my first league season with adult team and i did fairly ok. Alot of guys are really amazed how much i can turn, but i had issue with controls. My highschool captains all only let the pacers bowl, they did well, we won the championship but come on man, zero spinners ? I often batted last, fielded well and i was the spearhead spin bowler who just never got to bowl, it is simply sad as it gets. But its ok, it has given me motivation, the newer adults im working with are people who are actually finding the talent in me which i never knew existed. Im improving and i will only improve from here on. Now i gotta show all the fags that talked ****, I might not be better than them now, but soon i'll surpass them interms of skills. Bring it on bitches.
We usually begin in Febuary/March but there has been absolutely no information about it as of yet).