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Abdul
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Yes because I would be working for American army and not Pakistan's!
Rayyman
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Nope. I would never serve Trump. It would be a disgrace for me if he was to be my commander-in-chief.
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Of course not.
marlonbrowndo
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Why would I be in a foreign army in the first place. Never
Syed1
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I'll join the foreign army and covertly release important intel to the Pak fauj. I'd even help to remove high ranking officers of the army I'm enlisted in and make it seem like K.I.A.
Ofcourse to keep my cover I might have to engage in actual combat against PA and unfortunately make some of my own brethren shaheed. All for the higher cause.
Ofcourse to keep my cover I might have to engage in actual combat against PA and unfortunately make some of my own brethren shaheed. All for the higher cause.
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Yossarian
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As a UK national living in the UK, it means that the UK is my home, and UK citizens are my countrymen. Therefore what affects the UK affects me, my family, my friends, my colleagues, my neighbours and my fellow UK citizens. Had I joined the British armed forces, it would have been to help protect all of the above. If that meant fighting against Pakistan, then so be it. So yes.
Yossarian
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If you were living there, was a citizen of that country, and your family and friends also lived there and were citizens of that country, then that country would be 'your home'. And therefore the army of that country would not be a 'foreign army' but the army of the country who's citizen you are.
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Of course.
Barring a few cousins, all of my family resides in Canada and I was born here too.
Let's hope no one has to make that decision in their lifetime.
Barring a few cousins, all of my family resides in Canada and I was born here too.
Let's hope no one has to make that decision in their lifetime.
This.
I was born in the UK and live and work here. Whatever I have done so far in my life is down to the opportunities that this country gave both me, and my family.
I pay tak in the UK, all my vested personal interests are linked to the success of this country too. So if for some reason, god forbid, something was to happen where i get conscripted into the army, then yes, I would fight for the UK against any country, Pakistan or otherwise.
PerfectionPersonified
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The true question is " would you fight against Pakistan in an illegal war ? "
e.g iraq,libya, syria, afghanistan ...i can go on and on ....
e.g iraq,libya, syria, afghanistan ...i can go on and on ....
Cpt. Rishwat
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Got to agree with this. Also, if you are born abroad, when you refer to motherland, then it has to be where you were born, not where your parents were. Not that I would particularly want to fight anyone in any of the current wars being waged, most of which are not our wars, or at least not being fought for the reasons we are being told.
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Against the state of Pakistan on behalf of another nation state, no. Only situation where I'd consider getting involved in armed conflict against Pakistanis is if there's a France style revolution against the existing religion centered state in which case, gladly.
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Always willing to fight against them as long as it is online forums. In real life too much of a mouse to even look into their eyes.
Yossarian
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Wouldn't fight against anybody if it was an illegal war. Not voluntarily anyway.
Yossarian
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If you're living outside Pakistan and you're a citizen of the country where you live, then you'll have no choice if that country decided to bring in conscription and conscripted you into its armed forces. And you'll have to fight even if it means fighting against Pakistan.
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If such a situation does manifest itself, I'll be a conscientious objector and besides, when I do take up a foreign citizenship, I'll most likely retain my Pakistani citizenship which means my loyalty to my new home would always be in doubt which is something that can be exploited to get out of such a situation. For what it's worth, I wouldn't fight for Pakistan either unless I consider the cause worthy which means anything with a religious angle, which is everything in Pakistan, is out of the equation.
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Quite hypocritical of you lot to dissociate with Pakistan but then spend all day posting on a Pakistani forum, supporting Pakistan in cricket especially during Pak vs England matches
Yossarian
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That's why I'm in favour of abolishing dual nationality. India, for example, does not allow dual nationality.
A person should be a citizen of only one country at any given point in time. That then does away with the question of which country one should be loyal to. I'd give up the Pakistani side of my dual nationality, as it serves no purpose whatsoever, and is in fact a hindrance in many ways, if it wasn't so cumbersome to do so.
A person should be a citizen of only one country at any given point in time. That then does away with the question of which country one should be loyal to. I'd give up the Pakistani side of my dual nationality, as it serves no purpose whatsoever, and is in fact a hindrance in many ways, if it wasn't so cumbersome to do so.
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I explored the possibility of giving up my Pakistani citizenship when I take up another one as an act of protest against what the Pakistani state and people represent but despite my disdain for what this nation stands for, I find the idea of letting go too hard and would, at the very least, be severely conflicted if I found myself in a situation where I had to permanently sever my ties with what I consider an essential part of my identity, for better or for worse.
Robert
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I cannot think of a situation where the UK would fight Pakistan.
Cpt. Rishwat
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I don't dissociate with Pakistan, only to those parts which I don't relate to. But I would be an even bigger hypocrite to be living and earning in the UK which is what I call home, and then being conflicted about fighting if needed on behalf of the country.
That said, for me to fight against any other country it would need a good reason otherwise I would be a conscientious objector. I would definitely not want to be like those soldiers who lost their lives fighting a war based on lies like the WMD propaganda spouted to justify the war in Iraq.
Yossarian
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The UK sent troops to fight the Taliban in Pakistan. Imagine if Pakistan had not 'accepted' Bush's "you are either with us or against us" kind 'offer'. Don't forget, up until then, Pakistan had been supporting the Taliban against the Afghan warlords.
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If Pakistan was the aggressor and attacked the UK, invaded or dropping bombs, only then would I fight against the motherland. This is never going to happen in my lifetime , so no issues.
I would fight against Pakistan if it was the right thing to do. For example if Pak soldiers began killing their own people so someone had to step in to stop it or intervene in any civil war scenario. It is a bit like whose side you'd take if your parents were arguing.
KingKhanWC
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Being America's little B , you can never count out what the dumb UK government will do. They helped butcher millions in Iraq so Pakistan isn't out the equation. If the same thing happened to Pakistan, firstly their would be massive riots in the UK but I would leave and fight for Pakistan's self defence.
StreetSmart
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that's the question they ask why you are applying for citizenship
Adil_94
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Yes id fight for U.K against Pakistan if i had to. I support Pakistan in cricket since i was a lil kid my dad passed it onto me. But apart from that i have little love for the country in its current state and the govt though a lot of the people are good people. If push came to shove id support the U.K
No, I won;t join army in USA as I don;t agree with them fighting in other countries and killing people, although I have received attractive offer due to my profession.
I Muslim friend of mine of Indian origin, joined army and went to Iraq and I have never spoken to him since.
I Muslim friend of mine of Indian origin, joined army and went to Iraq and I have never spoken to him since.
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Not interested in military service whatsoever.
I would however keenly support any institution or individual who would replace our "democratic" government which had led to nothing but corruption...
I would however keenly support any institution or individual who would replace our "democratic" government which had led to nothing but corruption...
Robert
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Paranoia, I'm afraid. Not going to happen. The UK is beyond offensive action in a conventional warfare sense.
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shaz619
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I would defend Birmingham no doubt 
AFM
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While I am a British citizen, and am very fond of the UK, I was born in Pakistan and will always consider it my motherland. If there ever was a point where the two would be at war, then I would side with Pakistan, no hesitation.
Zohaib Shah
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We kill each other everyday. How is this something new?
Zohaib Shah
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Nationalty is all man made. In the end killing any soul would feel painful.
I don't affiliate myself with any country. I don't consider myself a Pakistani or a British. Nationality and all this patriotism crap is all man made. And I don't believe in military service. I don't believe in sacrificing my precious life just to protect a country. So, no I would neither fight against Pakistan nor for it. My life is important to me.
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